I bought a 2nd hand (mint) white Nexus 7 2013 last year in March.
Soon after I had a bad flash it was soft bricked, I can get into recovery and get fastboot to work etc, but NRT won't work to restore it, so I put it in a drawer and forgot about it.
I got it out today and would like to get it working, it seems it is possible and I will give it a good go later on
My question is, I remember it being quite laggy on YouTube and in general. Is this still true? Or will it be perfectly okay on a custom rom/kernel?
I really only want it for YouTube and Netflix and maybe the odd web browsing session. No games or intensive apps!
Thanks
Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
gman88667733 said:
Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
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I've been using Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel since last November. See this post for my feedback and some pro tips
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80842805&postcount=542
The only drawback is that you'll need an older version of the Netflix app (just search for "Netflix" in the ROM thread) because Widevine L1 (which is a requirement for FullHD support in newer versions of Netflix) is only supported in the stock 6.0.1 ROM as well as custom ROMs based on 6.0.1. That older version of Netflix does not check Widevine level—BUT also does not support offline saving for later viewing.
If this is an issue for you, just stay on 6.0.1
PS If you decide to use ElementalX kernel, DO NOT UPDATE it past version 7.00!
Version 7.02 is for LineageOS only and will screw up GUI big time.
You can try this rom:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-t3569067
No battery drain. :good:
I was going to flash Pixel Experience ROM last night, but had some issues...
I flashed the latest TWRP via fastboot and it was successful and booted into TWRP fine, but then bootlooped when I restarted the system? I then booted back into TWRP, loaded up the ROM I chose and tried to flash that, which gave me Error 7 I believe and did not work. So I left it at that and will reflash stock 6.0.1 tonight and maybe try an older version of TWRP? Not sure why it bootlooped the first time.
Can I go straight to 9.0 from 6.0.1? Not sure why it wouldn't flash the Pixel Experience ROM.
Edit- I installed version 'twrp-3.3.1-0-flo.img 8.8M 2019-05-19 16:27:52 EDT'
The verson of the rom I installed was the pure experience 'plus' version on the download page. Maybe that was my mistake? I am going to try a Nougat rom tonight to see how that works first before committing to 9.0 +
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
I'm now on Pure Nexus 7.1.2 it seems very good really, much quicker than stock.
YouTube was still slow, so I just created a shortcut to the browser version which is much smoother.
Overall really enjoying having a small tablet again.
I'd buy one with up to date spec in a heartbeat
gman88667733 said:
I was going to flash Pixel Experience ROM last night, but had some issues...
I flashed the latest TWRP via fastboot and it was successful and booted into TWRP fine, but then bootlooped when I restarted the system? I then booted back into TWRP, loaded up the ROM I chose and tried to flash that, which gave me Error 7 I believe and did not work. So I left it at that and will reflash stock 6.0.1 tonight and maybe try an older version of TWRP? Not sure why it bootlooped the first time.
Can I go straight to 9.0 from 6.0.1? Not sure why it wouldn't flash the Pixel Experience ROM.
Edit- I installed version 'twrp-3.3.1-0-flo.img 8.8M 2019-05-19 16:27:52 EDT'
The verson of the rom I installed was the pure experience 'plus' version on the download page. Maybe that was my mistake? I am going to try a Nougat rom tonight to see how that works first before committing to 9.0 +
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If you get error 7, you need repartition.
System partition is too small for this rom.
gman88667733 said:
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
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Unfortunately, 720p60 will be slow anyway, but you can use NewPipe to watch 720p60/1080p60 videos in 1080p30. Check post #3 above for the link to my post with detailed feedback and tips.
Moreover, I do recommend Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel. With a mild overclock (again, details are in my post mentioned above) the tablet becomes WAY smoother.
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gman88667733 said:
I flashed aosp extended 7.1.2 but YouTube is still very slow.
Will this be the case for every rom and kernel?
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MarviXDA said:
You can try this rom:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7-2013/development/rom-t3569067
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Is there any kernel for this ROM that allows for both overclocking CPU/GPU and undervolting CPU?
I didn't mean the video playback was slow. The scrolling in the app was slow, very stuttery
gman88667733 said:
I didn't mean the video playback was slow. The scrolling in the app was slow, very stuttery
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Well then you need a ROM/kernel combo that will make it possible to overclock the CPU.
I use YouTube Vanced/Newpipe and scrolling is okeyish there after a mild CPU/GPU overclock.
m00nlighter said:
Unfortunately, 720p60 will be slow anyway, but you can use NewPipe to watch 720p60/1080p60 videos in 1080p30. Check post #3 above for the link to my post with detailed feedback and tips.
Moreover, I do recommend Unlegacy Android plus ElementalX kernel. With a mild overclock (again, details are in my post mentioned above) the tablet becomes WAY smoother.
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Is there any kernel for this ROM that allows for both overclocking CPU/GPU and undervolting CPU?
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while the battery holds a charge of 3 days, I see no reason to waste time on such searches. There will be a task - I will decide.
gman88667733 said:
Update - Got it back up and running. On fully stock 6.0.1 now. Not quite sure what my best bet is for a custom rom. I ideally want reasonable performance when scrolling and the battery not to be completely awful.
Is there a go-to for this device for stable, reliable performance? It won't be used all the time, maybe an hour or so a day for watching YouTube or a Netflix show. Maybe scrolling through some news apps if I get bored. My smartphone is a Pixel 2XL, so I know the performance won't be anything like that, so it won't replace my phone for most of my tasks.
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My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
Tmzdroid said:
My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
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Does yours lag when scrolling on YouTube? Even on Pure Nexus ROM mine will lag a lot when scrolling and takes forever to load my subscription page.
gman88667733 said:
Does yours lag when scrolling on YouTube? Even on Pure Nexus ROM mine will lag a lot when scrolling and takes forever to load my subscription page.
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No there is no lag when scrolling on youtube.
Tmzdroid said:
No there is no lag when scrolling on youtube.
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How bizarre...
So to confirm, you are on stock 6.0.1, the last update from Google and all you did was flash EX kernel on top of it?
Did YouTube lag when scrolling on fully stock? It lags for me no matter what I've tried so far
gman88667733 said:
How bizarre...
So to confirm, you are on stock 6.0.1, the last update from Google and all you did was flash EX kernel on top of it?
Did YouTube lag when scrolling on fully stock? It lags for me no matter what I've tried so far
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Yes it runs sweet as the only trouble I ever had with my Nexus was when the screen stopped autorotating and was acting up so I used the following fix using a strip of foam and it's been perfect ever since. I also applied some tape to the wider silver ribbon cable along the top edge of the battery as shown in the pictures.
It might be worth trying these fixes on your tablet.
Tmzdroid said:
Yes it runs sweet as the only trouble I ever had with my Nexus was when the screen stopped autorotating and was acting up so I used the following fix using a strip of foam and it's been perfect ever since. I also applied some tape to the wider silver ribbon cable along the top edge of the battery as shown in the pictures.
It might be worth trying these fixes on your tablet.
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And it runs quickly on the YouTube app? I find mine runs fine when opening YouTube on a web browser, but the app is the slowest app I have ever used on it.
Tmzdroid said:
My Nexus 7 is on stock 6.0.1 with Elemental X kernel using all stock settings and it still runs like a champ I use it more than my s9 plus for watching YouTube and other streaming apps I would say the Nexus 7 is definitely still usable.
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With a mild overclock in ElementalX kernel (CPU to 1728 MHz and GPU to 450 MHz), the UI is way smoother than at stock frequencies.
However I switched to Unlegacy Android to enjoy more recent security updates as well as updated ElementalX kernel (it's 7.00 for Oreo ROMs).
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Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
EDIT: I'm not talking about custom roms and such, and i'm not willing to flash, i like stock
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First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
I'm on cm10.1 4.2.2 and is probably the smoothest ROM I have ever been on.
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Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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ray3andrei said:
Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
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1. Use a custom kernel and tweak the read ahead buffer size. With sio io scheduler and 256k buffer size i made the lag minimal for me.
3+5 : use nova launcher and it will be fine
4: it works fine here, make sure you do clean installs.
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
Sent from my Nexus Prime
manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
Same here, on CM10.1 Play Store is now smooth but was bad on XenonHD.
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I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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sam razzy said:
Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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No. Your problem is more than likely the former.
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forever_lol said:
Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
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Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
thegtfusion said:
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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How do I do this?
Not sure if this has been discussed or not I searched and found many bugs but none that meet this specific issue.. I noticed that since I updated to the 4.2.2 leak on my Toro Nexus there have been a few issues:
Audio from the pogo pin dock stopped working.
Car mode goes off and on randomly as well as the charging bolt when the phone should be charging.
Phone goes into daydream mode even when not being charged..
Turning on bluetooth randomly reboots the phone on occasion and other random bugs.
I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA. I'm stock unlocked, unrooted, just the way I like my Nexus (for now). In no way is this a complaint, more my observations and a last shot in the dark to see if anyone has overcome these issues in the latest leaked "OTA."
On a side note, other than the dock and power issues, everything has been smooth. No lag etc...
fireknuckles said:
... I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA....
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Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
fireknuckles said:
Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
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It's the same as flashing a rom! Use Titanium backup to backup the apps, and custom recovery to wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Format /system, /data, /cache , and downgrade with the toolkit w/o format when it ask. So for less than an hour you will downgrade, and keep music, videos and photos. So the only thing you lose is programs, but you can restore them whit titanium, and that is!
manumanfred said:
Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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Lags what I am talking about is low fps scrolling that appears after some time of normal usage. I've never experienced it on 4.1.2 or 4.2.1. It has nothing to do with the kernel. (BTW aren't we talkin about the stock one?) Problem is still present on custom kernels and even OCed CPU. It looks rather like some sort of memory leak. Reboot or changing wallpaper is a workaround solution for this issue. So yeah if you reboot your device quite often you most probably won't see this bug.
If you want to read more about this issue visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
Except this bug I really like the 4.2.2 rom, these new features. I consider it as an improvement from 4.2.1.
I agree, 4.1.2 was polished more. 4.2.2 is better then the initial 4.2 release, but still has a way to go. We'll see what IO brings soon.
wisefreakz said:
I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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+1
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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ray3andrei said:
Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
manumanfred said:
Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
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Like i said, i'm 100% stock, and i see a lot of people having these issues as well..
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Just got a bit tired of little bugs in the CM13 based roms and thinking about switching back to CM11. The only concern is the lack of security updates after the maintainers abandoned the projects for newer android versions.
Did anyone here try downgrading? Or maybe never upgraded? Is it wise to do so?
Some of my issues with CM13 based roms which have put me off:
Insane lag when reciving calls
Adopting Storage doesn't work half the time
Front Camera crashes
Mobile Data issues
Lock Screen Wallpaper Issue
Music suspend bug
Battery drain Issue
LOL brother. I am still using CM 11 build 14/11/15 with Xcelerate kernel build 4/12/15.
I still used this OS as it gives me atleast 500+mb ram which I require a lot for gaming.
At battery 100%............(with airplane mode on)...wifi on After 3hrs of continuous wifi gaming my battery drops to around 20%.
So I guess battery life is good.......though i haven't activated any sim cards(that would be a different story)
I don't have any voice(call) related problem though. Only bug is HDR. Once a picture is clicked with HDR on, you have to exit camera to click again in HDR mode
I actually need a CM 13 rom which provide such performance.(I was thinking about Slim rom 0.4 by Aniket Lamba)
So if anyone can suggest me better rom then please let me know. For me stability & usability matters more than recent builds.
I always will appreciate any information whether good or bad
I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
amangupta53 said:
Some of my issues with CM13 based roms which have put me off:
Insane lag when reciving calls
Adopting Storage doesn't work half the time
Front Camera crashes
Mobile Data issues
Lock Screen Wallpaper Issue
Music suspend bug
Battery drain Issue
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1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
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I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
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Hate towards KK is only because most of the apps are working great in >LP than in KK. If MIUI with LP is given then it can be easily a great choice for armani. MIUI ram issues have sorted out but only thing is standby time(wifi on) is low.
NightRaven49 said:
I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
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The music bug persisting after the downgrade is what's keeping me back. I, too, don't use Adoptive storage for all the bugs it brings - even on AOSP. But this means I'm running out of space by the end of the month because of necessary evils like WhatsCrap.
The gravitybox mod is good to know, although I don't use xposed, but really is simply a hassle to effectively change your wallpaper - especially when I'm changing them every other week.
I've recently tried disabling MPDecision - the music seems to be playing fine but I can't help but notice sightly degraded performance all around.
slst said:
Hate towards KK is only because most of the apps are working great in >LP than in KK.
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Funny when there was a time when apps couldn't run properly on ART...
amangupta53 said:
I, too, don't use Adoptive storage for all the bugs it brings - even on AOSP. But this means I'm running out of space by the end of the month because of necessary evils like WhatsCrap.
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Adoptive Storage is a hassle to set up: you need to format your SD card (which meant I had to shift everything out before converting it), and TWRP has no way to read such encrypted storage, so I didn't use it after the first time I tried it. Also you could do with regular housekeeping of your phone's storage; usually I keep WhatsApp images for a year before deleting them (after keeping the important ones and archiving the rest).
amangupta53 said:
The gravitybox mod is good to know, although I don't use xposed, but really is simply a hassle to effectively change your wallpaper - especially when I'm changing them every other week.
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Xposed is very helpful, but if you don't want to use it then I won't force you.
Generally in those CM12/13 ROMs if I wanted to switch between lockscreen wallpapers I would leave a couple of those wallpapers in the /data/system/users/0 folder, just renamed to let me know which file is which wallpaper. Whenever I wanted to change them I just renamed them to the proper filename.
amangupta53 said:
I've recently tried disabling MPDecision - the music seems to be playing fine but I can't help but notice sightly degraded performance all around.
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You don't have to leave MPDecision off the whole time: just disable it when listening to music, and re-enable it afterward.
Thank you everyone for your valuable comments:good:. It seems I can finally move on to CM 13:fingers-crossed:.(mostly slim6 version)
Note: I don't have music stop bug in CM11 though( may be related to firmware version or kernel. don't know why different people have different bugs:silly
Dr. Joy Das said:
Thank you everyone for your valuable comments:good:. It seems I can finally move on to CM 13:fingers-crossed:.(mostly slim6 version)
Note: I don't have music stop bug in CM11 though( may be related to firmware version or kernel. don't know why different people have different bugs:silly
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What I think is that the KK firmware/modem we all flashed for CM13 builds has something to do with the music suspend bug. This is probably the reason why downgrading back to CM11/12.1 doesn't seem to fix this issue.
Anyway, seems like I'll just stick with CM13 for now.
NightRaven49 said:
Funny when there was a time when apps couldn't run properly on ART...
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Sorry my friend i think its past now.
amangupta53 said:
What I think is that the KK firmware/modem we all flashed for CM13 builds has something to do with the music suspend bug.
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Well not really, as the same v7.0.5.0 is used for CM11, 12 and early 13 builds. It's most likely a kernel issue, given that disabling MPDecision fixes it somewhat.
slst said:
Sorry my friend i think its past now.
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I totally didn't know that, like totally dude
/sarcasm
I am in a search for a daily stable driver like a stock. I tried all UX 5.0 roms Fulmics, N&N, Loe etc and they all have lagg especialy when a lot of opened apps in recents menu.
So is there a good stable and speedy rom, maybe a one with UX 4.0 that you recommand?
Fulmics 6.6.never gets laggy
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Fulmics 6.6.never gets laggy
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iT LAGS when you open recents menu and scroll with more than 4-5 apps
Fulmics doesn't just lag. My phone abnormally overheats than usual, causing a damage to my wifi chip. I've also tried other stock based custom roms and it does the same. Right now I am running the MIUI 8. Smooth and I face no problem so far.
Flash any CM roms then change your resolution to 1920x1080 (Full HD). Really helps with speedy performance as the system needs only to render at this resolution (FHD) rather than 1440p. Kinda like what you do to game at higher FPS.
Any stock based rom with UX 4.0 ?
ronzky321 said:
Flash any CM roms then change your resolution to 1920x1080 (Full HD). Really helps with speedy performance as the system needs only to render at this resolution (FHD) rather than 1440p. Kinda like what you do to game at higher FPS.
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How it is gaming performance and battery compared to stock? (I've tried changig to FHD on stock but a lot of apps FC)
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How it is gaming performance and battery compared to stock? (I've tried changig to FHD on stock but a lot of apps FC)
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That's why I said flash any non-stock based rom. I don't game on my phone, but there's a post somewhere where they made a test and noticed a 30% boost in games using FHD resolution. Battery-wise I can't notice a significant boost. But theoretically it should somehow extend battery life. BUT I do see some gains in smoothness and overall ui performance.
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That's why I said flash any non-stock based rom. I don't game on my phone, but there's a post somewhere where they made a test and noticed a 30% boost in games using FHD resolution. Battery-wise I can't notice a significant boost. But theoretically it should somehow extend battery life. BUT I do see some gains in smoothness and overall ui performance.
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What firmware are you on ? I had hard time choosing between RR and Xenon HD. I chose xenon. And How to switch to FHD?
Try tekcafe
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What firmware are you on ? I had hard time choosing between RR and Xenon HD. I chose xenon. And How to switch to FHD?
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Firmware? I'm using D855, currently on RR. I liked XenonHD, but I swtiched to RR because it has a bug where the navbar home button would not respond sometimes (hope they fixed it now). You could use any app that can change resolution and dpi, I'm using Easy DPI Changer currently.
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Firmware? I'm using D855, currently on RR. I liked XenonHD, but I swtiched to RR because it has a bug where the navbar home button would not respond sometimes (hope they fixed it now). You could use any app that can change resolution and dpi, I'm using Easy DPI Changer currently.
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Can you recommand me a specific one? I have used some and my apps and system fc.
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Can you recommand me a specific one? I have used some and my apps and system fc.
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If you're using a stock-based rom, no matter what app you'll use, it would force close. You need any AOSP-based ROM.
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iT LAGS when you open recents menu and scroll with more than 4-5 apps
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At this moment I have 13 apps open in recents on Fulmics 6.5, and it scrolls fast and fluid. No lag whatsoever.
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ram1MB said:
Fulmics doesn't just lag. My phone abnormally overheats than usual, causing a damage to my wifi chip. I've also tried other stock based custom roms and it does the same. Right now I am running the MIUI 8. Smooth and I face no problem so far.
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Heating up is a G3 issue in general. Regardless, I've been on Fulmics for 7 months and the only time it's gotten noticeably hot was playing Pokemon Go in direct sunlight on a 104 degree summer day. I'm sure part of it staying cool is that I typically don't game. I do play a lot of videos though without issue.
The requirements are simple – everything should just work fine. Requirements include games like Subway Surfers and such, browsing the web, YouTube and working camera. For me I am getting a Mi A1 or Redmi Note 5 Pro (I don’t like MIUI though but for the price I can compromise and it seems the best choice, there are no other options at that price, please suggest if you have other device in mind. Also in future I can Install ROMs on Note 5 Pro also, so yeah).
Below are my few ideas:
Stock ZUI EN 2.0.133 ST because it is more stable than Nougat variant. With ZUI I am planning on installing the Material Notification Shade app to fix the disappearing notifications icons issue but in my testing I found it to be using almost 50% of the battery, therefore I am scrapping ZUI idea. Also ZUI feels a bit cluttered too. If the notification shade app can be made to consume less battery then I will go with it though. I know ZUI with Oreo is around the corner but it's ZUI after all.
I am currently using AEX 5.2. It is quite stable but has good overnight battery drain, like ~15% sometimes. Yesterday I slept at 3 am with 82% and woke up with 68% battery at 10 am. Also there is the camera problem. I have been using the Modded GCAM and it is GREAT! Only problem is the videos, unusable slow motion and normal videos come dark and they are unusable as well. BUT for videos I use OnePlus’ camera app and it is good but I can’t see mom using camera without getting confused So I am ready to forgo the camera2api magic and install a non-frills camera.
So for Camera please suggest an all-rounder workable camera application that I can install in the system or as priv-app and also any suggestion for the battery drain.
I am looking at some other ROMs as well. I want to test some ROMs that just work. I have been hearing about ViperOS and H2OS for some time that they are great. I just need a ROM that will work, no bells and whistles needed. So please Suggest some ROMs.
If you have any other suggestion then please let me know.
Aex 4.6 will be the vest suited rom for your mom
sidS6 said:
Aex 4.6 will be the vest suited rom for your mom
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I did use 4.6 way back and here is what i found if i recall:
In notification shade when you swipe the notification it stutters.
I don't remember about the heating issue though.
It was stuttery in general now that i remember, i had to flash Heliox Kernel for the heating issue and there was no improvement in the performance.
4.4 was quite good if i remember it correctly.
Anyways thanks i think i might revisit this ROM
viper os+ one plus camera bro
Nico990fx said:
viper os+ one plus camera bro
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I just flashed ViperOS with stock gapps. Too much heating and user interface stutter and lag.
I do not have any battery drain. 1 percent at nigth on airplane mode . Check ur apps.
8 h of sot on aex 5.2.
you can use deodexed zui 3.5 oreo oreo zui is far better than nougat zui
I have to say, just ask your mum about her preferences of what she likes to use out of the phone.
And install barebone AOSP-ish rom with adblock/popup block/youtube ad-block on it. Then get her apps installed and she'll be happy. No complexities whatsoever.
Our elders aren't picky as us , my mum is using an LG G3 and its been on fulmics rom from day one, and it works perfect for her because all she does is follow up daily news, youtube, browse some internet, watch some episodes and thats it.
Also a 5.5" or 6" screen is ideal for our elders because of good visiblity of text etc.
dark_prince said:
I have to say, just ask your mum about her preferences of what she likes to use out of the phone.
And install barebone AOSP-ish rom with adblock/popup block/youtube ad-block on it. Then get her apps installed and she'll be happy. No complexities whatsoever.
Our elders aren't picky as us , my mum is using an LG G3 and its been on fulmics rom from day one, and it works perfect for her because all she does is follow up daily news, youtube, browse some internet, watch some episodes and thats it.
Also a 5.5" or 6" screen is ideal for our elders because of good visiblity of text etc.
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can you provide links regarding "adblock/popup block/youtube ad-block" all of these?
Onu28 said:
I did use 4.6 way back and here is what i found if i recall:
In notification shade when you swipe the notification it stutters.
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For stuttering issue, use HelioX kernel. You'll get the best performance+battery efficiency out of AEX 4.6.
If you want good camera, flash this camera oss.zip from here and use Pixel Camera mod by Arnova. Then you're good to go.
ashishjullia19 said:
can you provide links regarding "adblock/popup block/youtube ad-block" all of these?
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Adaway for adblock (it blocks adfly links too)
YouTube adblock is Xposed module.
Popups and their popup links are blocked by adaway too , well most of them.
Onu28 said:
I just flashed ViperOS with stock gapps. Too much heating and user interface stutter and lag.
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Did you flash last version? Viper is the smoothest rom for our phone, and no heating at all. I'd like to use a newer Oreo rom but they all are behind in terms of smoothness and heat...
poled said:
Did you flash last version? Viper is the smoothest rom for our phone, and no heating at all. I'd like to use a newer Oreo rom but they all are behind in terms of smoothness and heat...
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I don't remember the build date but it was named "Final N" at the end. That's the build I flashed and had such experience.
Please link me the stable build.
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I don't remember the build date but it was named "Final N" at the end. That's the build I flashed and had such experience.
Please link me the stable build.
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Yes, final N is the lastest versión
Viper-z2_plus-20171020-Coral-v3.1.1-Final-N.zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291682699
It's really the smoothest, at least in apps with scrolling, Twitter for example, the others have microstuttering
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Yes, final N is the lastest versión
Viper-z2_plus-20171020-Coral-v3.1.1-Final-N.zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291682699
It's really the smoothest, at least in apps with scrolling, Twitter for example, the others have microstuttering
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Aw man now i feel like i am doing something wrong.
Okay i'll try it again but tell me if there are any mods i have to do to get the best out of the rom.
like what kernel, camera app, gapps package size, baseband version, magisk etc.
Onu28 said:
Aw man now i feel like i am doing something wrong.
Okay i'll try it again but tell me if there are any mods i have to do to get the best out of the rom.
like what kernel, camera app, gapps package size, baseband version, magisk etc.
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I'm using the rom as it is, with its own kernel (it's heliox btw). The rest is up to you, I'm using gapps pico, magisk just to have root and remove ads with adaway and gcam mod
just use viper os 3.1.1 with heliox 10/15 ..
Nitrogen OS Would be the Best! But there isn't any solution to Dark Videos as yet. Still you can use Proshot or Footej Camera for the Job.
Have you guys ever experienced any lags in the UI?
Especially when I'm unlocking my phone, opening notifications shade or going to the recent apps screen (with gestures), it's like I'm using a very old device with a 1 GB RAM and It's driving me crazy!
I used to set up work profile using Shelter, turned off MIUI Optimisation (to have the REAL always-on display) and was using super wallpapers somehow and I thought it makes my phone slow.
Today I did a factory reset, and guess what, nothing was changed!
Even at the very first step which I didn't even install any applications, lags are clearly visible.
I'm using the stock ROM and never tried to unlock the bootloader or flashing custom recovery.
Please help me. I've tried any possible solutions including factory reset.
I even compared this device with a Mi Note 8 in the same condition and the Note 8 had a better performance. Or maybe these lags are normal on this device!
Do you have any idea?
Thanks.
mahbod.es.1996 said:
Have you guys ever experienced any lags in the UI?
Especially when I'm unlocking my phone, opening notifications shade or going to the recent apps screen (with gestures), it's like I'm using a very old device with a 1 GB RAM and It's driving me crazy!
I used to set up work profile using Shelter, turned off MIUI Optimisation (to have the REAL always-on display) and was using super wallpapers somehow and I thought it makes my phone slow.
Today I did a factory reset, and guess what, nothing was changed!
Even at the very first step which I didn't even install any applications, lags are clearly visible.
I'm using the stock ROM and never tried to unlock the bootloader or flashing custom recovery.
Please help me. I've tried any possible solutions including factory reset.
I even compared this device with a Mi Note 8 in the same condition and the Note 8 had a better performance. Or maybe these lags are normal on this device!
Do you have any idea?
Thanks.
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On latest build(global rom) right. But it only happen when the battery level is below 60%. I noticed it and moved to custom rom because of it. Install cpu frequency monitoring app like devcheck, the big cores are turned off(hotplugged), that's the cause of lags. Above 60% battery, everything is normal(no hotplug). I have no idea how to fix it, assuming that it's a bug.
Yeah, the UI after 12.5.5 update definitely lags, which is disappointing.
gingerboy92 said:
On latest build(global rom) right. But it only happen when the battery level is below 60%. I noticed it and moved to custom rom because of it. Install cpu frequency monitoring app like devcheck, the big cores are turned off(hotplugged), that's the cause of lags. Above 60% battery, everything is normal(no hotplug). I have no idea how to fix it, assuming that it's a bug.
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Thanks dear gingerboy.
But it happens all the time, no matter how much the battery level is.
Which custom ROM do you prefer? Is it stable and completely bugless?
And also, do you know any app that can messure my device's performance and compare it with other's?
asakurato said:
Yeah, the UI after 12.5.5 update definitely lags, which is disappointing.
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What should we do?
mahbod.es.1996 said:
Thanks dear gingerboy.
But it happens all the time, no matter how much the battery level is.
Which custom ROM do you prefer? Is it stable and completely bugless?
And also, do you know any app that can messure my device's performance and compare it with other's?
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I use devcheck to see the cpu, not sure if there's any reliable benchmark app for ui. Currently using xperience project. Not much choices for our phone yet, so can't really suggest. The rom is stable enough for daily use, but camera is not perfect, need to use ported gcam for basic features (ultrawide cam etc).
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I use devcheck to see the cpu, not sure if there's any reliable benchmark app for ui. Currently using xperience project. Not much choices for our phone yet, so can't really suggest. The rom is stable enough for daily use, but camera is not perfect, need to use ported gcam for basic features (ultrawide cam etc).
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I think I should wait for the next MIUI update, hope Xiaomi fixes those bugs. If not I'm going to flash some android 12 based custom ROMs when they've been developed at the stable stage.
Anyway, thanks for your help bro.
mahbod.es.1996 said:
I think I should wait for the next MIUI update, hope Xiaomi fixes those bugs. If not I'm going to flash some android 12 based custom ROMs when they've been developed at the stable stage.
Anyway, thanks for your help bro.
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I am having same problem with latest EU rom 12.5.5, really disappointed, I didn't find any solution..
Demoprazol said:
I am having same problem with latest EU rom 12.5.5, really disappointed, I didn't find any solution..
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Did you get the leatest update MIUI 12.5.6?
mahbod.es.1996 said:
Did you get the leatest update MIUI 12.5.6?
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Ohh thank you so much, let me try..
I have just updated MIUI 12.5.6 and the lagging problem still exists, I can't use Gmail, Twitter etc just because of the lagging..
I also wiped dalvik/cache after the update.
Finally, back to 'superman' feeling with 12.5.6... last update was big time sucks
asakurato said:
Yeah, the UI after 12.5.5 update definitely lags, which is disappointing.
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I use devcheck to see the cpu, not sure if there's any reliable benchmark app for ui. Currently using xperience project. Not much choices for our phone yet, so can't really suggest. The rom is stable enough for daily use, but camera is not perfect, need to use ported gcam for basic features (ultrawide cam etc).
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Demoprazol said:
I am having same problem with latest EU rom 12.5.5, really disappointed, I didn't find any solution..
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faizalotai said:
Finally, back to 'superman' feeling with 12.5.6... last update was big time sucks
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Did you guys found any solution???
Currently using xiaomi.eu 13.0.4
It's performance is same as the MIUI 13 and the lags are still exist!
What ROM are you using? Is it more stable?
mahbod.es.1996 said:
Did you guys found any solution???
Currently using xiaomi.eu 13.0.4
It's performance is same as the MIUI 13 and the lags are still exist!
What ROM are you using? Is it more stable?
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I'm using PE for couple of weeks. It's very smooth and fast, good battery life. There is unexplained occasional freezes, which I suspect is somehow related to YoutubeVanced (because that's mostly what I'm using when phone freezes). Other than that, it was best decision to move to PE.
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I'm using PE for couple of weeks. It's very smooth and fast, good battery life. There is unexplained occasional freezes, which I suspect is somehow related to YoutubeVanced (because that's mostly what I'm using when phone freezes). Other than that, it was best decision to move to PE.
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Thanks.
I faced such crash issues with crDroid 8.2 and I'm not sure that's due to YoutubeVanced because I don't have this app.
Anyway, I'm going to flash Pixel Experience in some weeks and give it a try.
Does the camera work fine with no issues? Which camera app are you using?
mahbod.es.1996 said:
Thanks.
I faced such crash issues with crDroid 8.2 and I'm not sure that's due to YoutubeVanced because I don't have this app.
Anyway, I'm going to flash Pixel Experience in some weeks and give it a try.
Does the camera work fine with no issues? Which camera app are you using?
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I'm not using camera that much, but both stock camera (which has very little functionality) and Gcam for Mi11 lite works.
Honestly, flashing PE android 12 has fixed most of the issues I had with this phone (framedrops, weird miui power saving that limits some apps to 60hz for some reason, overall smoothness and speed, weird auto brightness...). Its just a better experience for this phone in my opinion. MIUI is only decent on phones with high end chips and even then its kinda bad.
I realised that using Super Wallpapers on xiaomi.eu ROM causes lags and bugs.
Lags are gone after I set another wallpaper.
So ...
That's it.
mahbod.es.1996 said:
I realised that using Super Wallpapers on xiaomi.eu ROM causes lags and bugs.
Lags are gone after I set another wallpaper.
So ...
That's it.
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Never used Super Wallpapers myself, I doubt that was it.
In my opinion this version of miui 13 is still not working perfectly. I mainly noticed several problems with the smoothness of the system that don't exist in Miui version 12.5. Yesterday I installed the PE12 version and I have no complaints, great battery and performance.