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Hi Guys,
I am fairly certain that many of you will have been as frustrated as I am about LeEco's response to our requests for the source code for our devices. Many of us have been met with we did not release the phone to the US market so please contact the 3rd Party seller. You and i know that this is an unacceptable stance and in breach of the GNU etc.
I think it's time for all frustrated owners to show LeEco what we think of their stance, and take a stance of our own as many of us have already started to do, and see if we can twist their arm a bit. The best way in my opinion is to hurt the company where it hurts most, and that's in the pocket and in the public eye. I therefore recommend that all users go to their face book account and leave a review of 1 star and explain why. Making sure you also mention our device in the comments section. This is bound to hurt and just over the last day i have seen their review score drop a few points. Now if everyone who signed the petition did this they would likely have a score near 1 out of 5. Which is roughly what I would give their service just now.
I have also been instructed by Lemall.US to email their opensource team a request to release the code which I have done and hope many will take time out to do the same.
Keep in mind we have been treated completely different to the buyers of the CN model who seem to get endless updates. While we get BS!
All of these reviews can be changed in the future if they release the source code and let us be free of their crappy, malware firmware.
Here are the links
https://www.facebook.com/LeMallUSA/
https://www.facebook.com/LeEcoIndia/
https://www.facebook.com/LeEcoGlobal/
email for opensource request
[email protected].*
Most recent reply suggests its working -
Denis our LeEco Global team has been contacted regarding this issue. We are investigating why the Le1 Pro x800 source codes were never released as part of the petition. We are pushing the LeEco Global Team to resolve this issue for you in a timely manner. The LeMall and LeEco US Teams were unaware of this issue until we received the reviews, but we will work to get this resolved for you. We hope you understand this device is not connected to our region and this is why our teams aren't able to resolve this for you immediately.We will keep in touch. -Matthew, LeMall US Team
Seems to be definitely working, now at 87 one star reviews and certainly LeMall US Team have taken notice, but we must keep the pressure up.
48 hours have now passed and 49 reviews by US X800 Users.
What can we achieve at this rate in the next 48 hours?.
This is awesome considering the Campaign is in its infancy and only went live on a few other sites last night so hopefully it will pick up exponentially over the next few days. Like the petition on change.org did.
We need to try and aim for at least another 63 reviews, so that we equal their 5 star reviews and they will hit the 2.5 rating, but obviously the more the better, so keep on spreading the word.
Still no further news from LeEco since this morning and not so much as an acknowledgement from le.opensource. But i am in communication with them in all channels and not giving up.
I honestly believe we are not far from cracking this.
I will keep everyone updated with any new developments as soon as I hear.
Awesome effort so far guys!
Respect!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/leeco-le1-pro/how-to/letv-le-1pro-1max-official-sourcex800-t3521272
good day. has anyone seen that now there are 4 differente source codes for x900 in leeco open source websites
http://opensource.le.com/
forget it and use this rom http://g3.letv.cn/244/27/89/scloud-...1S-5.9.020S.zip?b=123456&platid=5&splatid=500
Some more info would be nice Ab20000 instead of posting a rom which has a CN (wont work on the US version?) in the name...
Currently on slow internet so i cant give it a try. anyone else willing to?
Dear Xiaomi,
I'm sure there are a lot of buyers (like me) of your latest flagship phone Xiaomi Mi5s who bought this phone hoping that you will release the source code very soon after its market introduction and thus make use of numerous custom firmware out there.
Hence our humble request: Please release the kernel source code for Xiaomi Mi5s asap.
Thanks
Edit 1 (27.04.2017):
After 7 months of waiting, the kernel source code for Xiaomi Mi5s has been released. Finally!
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss
See also the MIUI Xiaomi Mi5s Forum.
http://en.miui.com/thread-407935-1-1.html
best regards
This post does not belong in this section.
Also I doubt anyone from Xiaomi would read this post.
Even if they did, they already know we on XDA would like the source code released - the same as every other phone released!
Answer from the supermoderator of en.miui.com:
"hi dear all
please be patience.
when it is release, word will spread.
however, no exact date is known at this point of time, SO
please please stay tuned in forum for more news & announcements.
cheers"
luiseteyo said:
Answer from the supermoderator of en.miui.com:
"hi dear all
please be patience.
when it is release, word will spread.
however, no exact date is known at this point of time, SO
please please stay tuned in forum for more news & announcements.
cheers"
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I saw that comment, what an informing notice lol. Miui forums community is cancer imo, no info at all. Polls everywhere.
"when it is release, word will spread." Oh god thank you! I'll not fall for the price next time i buy a phone.
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I saw that comment, what an informing notice lol. Miui forums community is cancer imo, no info at all. Polls everywhere.
"when it is release, word will spread." Oh god thank you! I'll not fall for the price next time i buy a phone.
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And I suggest you not to read that forums comment section. They post something and there is only thank you and praise for the OP. Fair to say it's cancerous
Need to start getting to the governments of countries involved to block importing/sale of ANY products that use GPL based software that they dont release source code for that the license says they must. I guess unfortunately enforcing GPL doesnt have the backing of multi billion dollar movie studios like pirating one movie might bring...
Basically their stealing other peoples work and making a profit by selling it without following the law of releasing their modifications of the source.
If the product is sold then source must be available otherwise the law is being broken, stop them selling their products outside of China and then they might give a toss about releasing kernel source, their stealing the work of thousands of developers and not abiding by the license that the source was released under.
Looks like Mi5S support will be abandoned shortly as their releasing the Mi6, looks like we got a lemon of a phone, time to chuck all Mi5S's into the kitchen grinder and destroy them
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Looks like Mi5S support will be abandoned shortly as their releasing the Mi6, looks like we got a lemon of a phone, time to chuck all Mi5S's into the kitchen grinder and destroy them
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Stop crying. Mi 5s forum moderator said that in beta a big amount of changes for Mi 5s.
BlackJetCat said:
Stop crying. Mi 5s forum moderator said that in beta a big amount of changes for Mi 5s.
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Well, if they can not handle it like Oneplus did it months ago, they could release sources to let us do better than they can.
Please don't protect xiaomi developers. Their updates are a joke, at least when hardware bugs still subsist like fingerprint scanner. It's funny to see that an XDA developer fixed it with LineageOS even without source code. They are amateurs on their jobs, that is guaranteed. They don't understand that an hardware is as good as it's software permits.
It's also important to note that they released nougat not only for ancient devices but also for more recent devices than mi 5s which is an insult. In fact i believe nougat comes to mi6 sooner than mi 5s, releasing mi6 with MM is ridiculous anyway.
With mi6 they change this device to the past, with software from the past and without kernel sources, future proof hardware bugs.
So yes, even if they release sources or Nougat tomorrow i would be still disappointed. It's my right to feel as so and to share it in a proper manner.
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Well, if they can not handle it like Oneplus did it months ago, they could release sources to let us do better than they can.
Please don't protect xiaomi developers. Their updates are a joke, at least when hardware bugs still subsist like fingerprint scanner. It's funny to see that an XDA developer fixed it with LineageOS even without source code. They are amateurs on their jobs, that is guaranteed. They don't understand that an hardware is as good as it's software permits.
It's also important to note that they released nougat not only for ancient devices but also for more recent devices than mi 5s which is an insult. In fact i believe nougat comes to mi6 sooner than mi 5s, releasing mi6 with MM is ridiculous anyway.
With mi6 they change this device to the past, with software from the past and without kernel sources, future proof hardware bugs.
So yes, even if they release sources or Nougat tomorrow i would be still disappointed. It's my right to feel as so and to share it in a proper manner.
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I am disappointed too. But every day I see at least one man who say that "Xiaomi tricked us, no support for global, this phone is ****, throw it away". I don't see posts like this on 4pda, but usually russian community raging first.
I don't feel tricked, because i expected Xiaomi dominant position. But a dominant position makes sense when there is no problem whatsoever, or they managed to rapidly correct problems, or when a software is proprietary. None of this happened. They don't fix it and don't let us try to do better. This model suffer from hardware inconsistency with some camera and screen manufacture, this should be sufficient to provide some after sale care at least at software domain. I still wait for the best, but what i could assure at this time is that i regret this acquisition against Oneplus 3T. I question myself if they acknowledge that Oneplus is their natural competitors and that they are gaining the game with simple actions. First CPU with normal clock (170k vs 152k max at antutu), then battery friendly oled, then a working fingerprint scanner without battery drain, consistent hardware sources against multisourced modules, open source since day one, frequent usefull updates, and fast upgrade to last Android. For me is night and day. Say nothing isn't an option because i would not protect my product, neither potential buyers, or Xiaomi option to make things right.
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I don't feel tricked, because i expected Xiaomi dominant position. But a dominant position makes sense when there is no problem whatsoever, or they managed to rapidly correct problems, or when a software is proprietary. None of this happened. They don't fix it and don't let us try to do better. This model suffer from hardware inconsistency with some camera and screen manufacture, this should be sufficient to provide some after sale care at least at software domain. I still wait for the best, but what i could assure at this time is that i regret this acquisition against Oneplus 3T. I question myself if they acknowledge that Oneplus is their natural competitors and that they are gaining the game with simple actions. First CPU with normal clock (170k vs 152k max at antutu), then battery friendly oled, then a working fingerprint scanner without battery drain, consistent hardware sources against multisourced modules, open source since day one, frequent usefull updates, and fast upgrade to last Android. For me is night and day. Say nothing isn't an option because i would not protect my product, neither potential buyers, or Xiaomi option to make things right.
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I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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If Mi 5s had 6GB ram, Gorilla Glass 4 and OLED etc... It'll will cost as much as 3T
Let's not split hairs,let us all just hope Xiaomi releases the kernel sources for Mi5s along with Mi6 or by the end of April.
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I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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Also in that case a more fair comparison would be between Oneplus 3T and Mi5s 4/128 that cost me 379€.
Since the mi6 was released today...should we expect to receive access to the kernel's source code today? Any news in this regard?
We need official nougat global dev rom ASAP.
I guess at this point it may be a good idea to write to http://gpl-violations.org for an advice and help
Xiaomi already know you want the source code - it is the same with EVERY other phone! They will release it when they are ready to.
Making complaints on this non-Xiaomi forum / starting petitions will not make any difference. They will not read them.
Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Creating a thread in Honor 8 Pro section as well so that 8 pro user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
8 Pro Thread
Good luck.
Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf
8 pro thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669807
As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @VenuGopalu077 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby add other if I missed anyone.
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
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Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
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Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
Their is no reason to back or support Honor and all their broken promises. The don't even respect their own employees
and they for Damn sure never listen to the Users request and feedback.
At the prices they are charging for their devices you could be using a LG G6 / HTC 10 / ZTE axon a Nokia 6 or any number of Moto or samsung phones (My kids Galaxy S8 plus was $525 with trade in and just $24 a month with samsung financing)
clsA said:
Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
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A transparent and open feedback mate :good:
First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about. I've read the PDF file attached and i found it very interesting. Plus, seeing such a relationship between OEM and customers is great. That's how things should always be.
Aside what has been already told, and the thing which i agree most is the uniformity of updates on all devices to ensure a quality performance to every device, I'd suggest to being more developer friendly (don't worry, I've already seen that in the points declared above, the release of kernel sources in time is already there). You shouldn't leave developers with tied hands, and anyway the device would be always bought from Huawei/Honor, so why mind too much at which OS will run on the phone? I buy the phone for hardware characteristics overall, what matters for real is that the user would feel free to do whatever it wants with the phone, once that it has been payed. Next; ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
As i'll remind other features, I'll come back to speak about them. At the moment nothing else to say
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First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about.
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Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
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ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
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Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
First of all i want to say that honor is doing a good act.. Tgis meetup thing is very positive but i want them to really implement this and the results should be positive..
1. Double tap to wakeup on kirin based devices
2. Quick and firm OTA updates for all regions as i feel that Pakistan region is ignored and dont get updates fasters.
3. Should provide 2 major upgrades on a device.. Means 2 year full support.
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Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
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Wow, thanks again man
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Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
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Would be both a work in less to do by them, and a better way to communicate with other devices and so developing a more synergetic compatibility with various devices by the same OEM. Sounds more like something futuristic however ahahah. Jokes aside, some model surely has and will have particular features that are present only in models that the hardware would permit, like more options for a better shot on camera as an hypothesis. Then it'd be sufficient to add in the OS some strings as "show this option if camera sensor x is true" and "show not this option if camera sensor x is false" or something like that, like some apps and OS already do from many time (like Greenify and the alternative lock-screen option that is shown if is a fingerprint sensor is detected, in example).
I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
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I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
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Absolutely. The notification on lock screen is pretty bad and need to unlock to see them properly
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You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
arshilhonor6x said:
stock Ui
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I wish for this too but, it's hard for his to ditch EMUI
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You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
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By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
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By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
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Sorry which form? Am I being dumb?
I just read an article about oneplus won't implement project treble to their device and wondering what Razer will do.
Interesting!
So they've gotten smart finally on combatting the fragmentation of versions I bet.
This would be a difficult undertaking, brands/carriers "lose" a certain degree of control. That's probably why most won't do it. That's why MS had such a hard time getting carriers to stock their phones. Carriers didn't want users to have so much control. The prime example of this is anti-root policies.
I sent an e-mail to Razer support about this (I was interested too), unfortunately the reply wasn't very informative:
Welcome to Razer support!
I am afraid to inform you that at this moment I have no information regarding an implementation of Project Treble on Razer Phone!
I invite you to follow us on our Facebook and Twitter and to subscribe to our Newsletter to be always up to date with the latest news from Razer!
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We'll have to wait and see I suppose.
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True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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MarcusMario0605 said:
True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
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I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
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Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Outdated? We have patch from 5th December and we're in the middle of January. Sounds pretty up-to- date to me. Don't confuse the latest Android version with the latest security patch - Android One is primarily about monthly security updates. 2 Android version upgrades are a nice bonus, but with no guaranteed time frame when is it going to be received.
Fuuuuuu
zenkhas said:
No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
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Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
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Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the Android One page nor the Mi A3 page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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For your opinion must waiting on september.few days befor release android 11.
This is not android one my friend is meizu rom.
The most of miui took android 10 and xiaomi forget the vanila android.
This is the truth.
Is the last time buy xiaomi smartphone.never i will buy again this brand.
I have delete until now 3 brands.
Apple motorola xiaomi.
This phone has easy to unlock the boot loader and a bunch of custom ROMs. Go over to the other forums for other phones. It's crickets on the dev side.
Clean Android: good. If mi 9 had it I would jump on one. A month or two delay over the life of the phone is not a huge deal.
I have used 2 Android One phones recently. And they were soo cheap phones. Now I have the Mi A3 and this phone is more expensive than the others. (In Android One category)
And these phones updated very fast. Beta tests begin 1 week after the beta release for Pixel phones. So Android One program means an early update to me. If the update will be late why did I bought this phone?
But there is a point to mention. Another android one phone that I have purchased at the same time with A3, didn't receive Android 10 eighter. There could be a problem with the Google maybe?
i agree with you friend but please explain why A2 got update before A3?
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And in your first point there was a promise, refer to mannu jain tweet. What is the meaning of "One of the first few device" if 2 year old nokia phone got an update, and Samsung cheap phone also received it and motorola too. Then what is the meaning of that tweet, please explain it too sir.
m4RinKo2 said:
They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Nokia 7.1, motorola one action
It’s just a typical way of thinking of those who had very few or even no knowledge about how programming and the software development process works…
Keep dumping pressure to devs only makes things worse.
It's like torque down the wheel nuts without even using a proper torque wrench; imagine if a guy was hurrying tightening down the nuts by bare hands. The wheels nuts can be loosened up and fall off the car! How safe would that be? Same applies for software development, if they rushed for an update, it can be buggy as hell, who knows!
So “Patience” is definitely the key, I had the same experience with A2 last year, where people just kept begging for Android 9 update. Xiaomi rushed, and pushes out buggy update like battery drain, inconsistent UI, and more severe, bootloop in its Jan update. Now, A2 got android 10 update doesn't mean it is better, it can have bugs like UI, bluetooth, slow charging bugs. It's a last major software update for A2, Xiaomi can rush the update, can't they? I know in Xiaomi website it said "Android one provides up-to-date software experience", but there's the fact that nothing is absolute. The update can be delayed for whatever reason.
The A3 is a cheap, budget, yet mid-range phone and people still want to interpret it as a “flagship” phone. Although this is an Android One phone, Xiaomi still need to fix bugs and add their own custom features. That would generally take some times for the completion, that doesn’t even count for fixing various bugs. Even though Motorola, Nokia phones get Android 10, it’s just depends on certain devs. They can be more productive than us.
Even more surprising, when Xiaomi india replied a tweet at twitter saying that android 10 will arrive on mid-Feb. People are screwed... they f**k Xiaomi and said that they won’t buy their phone again. Well, I feel quite miserable on why are people so impatient and complaining so much, seriously.
That is all I want to say, and I don’t want to dump any more time in this weird tragedy. If you disagree with me, feel free to blame, swear, or report to me. But the Fact that 'the arrival of Android 10 has no exact date' is going to Never change! So please, stop complaining about the update.
Thanks Captain!
m4RinKo2 said:
Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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Thank you for this Post! got already tired of people complaining about a good, cheap phone whose dev's are taking care of a bug free release first instead of rushing things. The A3 is working purrrfeect for what you pay <3
From my point of view thinking of that mi A3 has some type of priority is as foolish as of believing that this extra time (Chinese New year) will mean a more polished and refined rom.
I think someone should learn what Android One means before starting to make a thread.
MarcusMario0605 said:
Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
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Thats completely untrue. Xiaomi have made alluded to faster android upgrades for their Android One phones. And sometimes even made direct statements on that issue - one statement was from Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
After all the hype about faster updates from their fanbase, now you've amazingly said Xiaomi never promised anything at all! How very Trumpian of you.
And now you've made some more incredible statements like Xiaomi is only producing Android one phones because they have to, not because they actually want to, and Xiaomi don't make any money at all on these phones. No facts, no figures, just an outright assertion.
Customs roms are nice but it has no bearing on this issue. These roms are generally not vetted, tested, checked to see if they are stable and free from malware.
MarcusMario0605 said:
True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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Bro, would like to disagree with you here. If in the end we have to choose a custom rom, then why would I buy an Android One device. I could simply buy a MiUI based Xiaomi device and simply install custom rom (Probably that's what the Xiaomi wants). The other reason people prefer Android One device is to get rid of complications a custom rom develop.
Secondly, there's no hiding away from the fact that update is delayed for whatever reason may it be. Both the parties are at fault, I agree lots of people are baby shouting about Android 10 but the fact is and will be is that the update has been delayed. And for this no one is blaming developers. I always respect the developers. They work behind the scenes without getting applaused. But the anger of people is over Xiaomi not the developers. The fact is people showing here as if they care for developrs are actually diverting the company's fault to developrs. Xiaomi aren't focusing on Android One with majority of developers assigned to MiUI. And this device is not the one which has been sold less. This is one of the best selling phones. It offering a lot at this price.
Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
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Typical non-committal language - just consider how many vendors and devices are out there - if the Mi A3 gets Android 10 in March 2020, it might very well be part of the "first few devices". In short, there is no reason to assume Mr. Manu wasn't being truthful at the time of tweeting this (back in Aug 2019). That is what he was led to believe then.
Xiaomi should be a bit more open about the roadmap/update progress, to ease everyone's mind.