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Pixel 2 xl or mate 10 pro?

About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.

I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.

The problem that i had with EMUI is app compatibility. When I had the Mate 9 hulu didn't work and google locations wouldn't update. It looks like the Hulu issue was resolved but if you browse the xda mate 10 forums many people are having issues with widgets. I also think the menu interface is still too cluttered. The updates are far and few

I had a mate 10 pro, hardware wise its a better phone in my opinion, nicer shape, I just really didn't like the software if they made a stock android version and got rid of the iOS wannabe software they would be on to a winner...

No persistent notifications on the lockscreen for EMUI was the reason I went back to Pixel phones.
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Megaromania said:
About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.
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If fast/regular/guaranteed updates are important to you, Pixel is the only game in town.

It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.
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Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?

sirxdroid said:
It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?
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Lmao that's a good one ?

If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.

Megaromania said:
Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?
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There both good. The pixel seems better. But think the mate 10 pro still had some software tweaks to make the battery life better. I never run out of battery by bed time with the pixel. Lowest I get is maybe 30 percent with heavy usage. Could easily last couple days maybe bit more with light usage

With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.

andy6685 said:
With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.
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The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.

sirxdroid said:
The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.
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I ordered one and received it today from amazon
Dunno why I decided to search on amazon again and found the phone 130 bucks cheaper
I asked them if they can price match they said no
So I ordered the cheaper one and gonna return the one I received
It was 760 instead of 889

Got both and use both constantly. Pixel 2 Xl as my private phone, Mate 10 Pro as my work one.
The Huawei "feels" better in hand to me. EMUI works well for me. I also like the camera on the Huawei, though the Pixels is better for point and shoot. As for the interface I really don't see the native one is a problem in any way, I simply downloaded the pixel 2 launcher and I see hardly any difference in real day to day use. The AOD isn't that useful as it only shows notifications from Huawei apps, you need to download third party AOD apps to work (Always On AMOLED).
The Pixel is very nice too and I like extras it has. Plain Google android, an Always On Display that actually works, the Shazam-like notifications, the way it is all just integrated.
I think if I was going to have a to choose it would be the Pixel but it wouldn't be a clear cut decision.

As many various tier Huawei phones I have tested & used, I would never buy any phone made by them. Their CPU always feels inferior to the latest Snapdragon, and multitasking is still something that hasn't been solved by them: try running 3 apps and switching between them, and the phone will lag like hell. I was also baffled when I tried to unlock the Mate 10 Pro, and it took 4 seconds to get to the home screen and draw all the icons... I'm sure Huawei makes decent phones and they have their audience, but they never offered anything that would appeal to me... And the camera is a joke for this price, just check this video:
Also, due to my work I've had the "luck" to get to know their ways of working a bit better than most people ever will (no, I never worked for Huawei), and let me tell you that adhering to standards is not their strong suit (not that Apple or Samsung are better at that department either). The Samsung-like spamming of the market with 10-15 devices with nearly identical capabilities is just one example of how the company wants to gain big market share (basically flood the market at a low cost entry point and ramp up the costs down the road to the point where you came out with a significant deficit...) without providing anything but worse quality (terms of code quality, for example).
As you can tell I pretty much despise the whole brand & can't be really objective in the question, but these are personal experiences that made me decide never-ever to buy anything made by Huawei (also, the fact that when I faced them with the reality that their flagship can't run 3 of my apps smoothly without getting sluggish they cut almost all ties with me...). That $100 difference will buy you not just a superb phone, but 2 years warranty, the (current) best camera solution a phone offers out of the box, timely updates for 3 years, a clutter- and bloatware-free Android experience, unlimited Photos storage for original image uploads for 3 years (from account activation on the phone), I even got the free Google Music promotion although I've been a subscriber for years now, just to name a few.

kdkinc said:
If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.
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Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.

Elsydeon said:
Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.
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Dxo ranks mate 10 pro right after pixel 2
Alot of websites commended the mate 10s camera

So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things

Megaromania said:
So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things
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Hahahahahaha..I doubt Google will grant your request. However, the rom developers just might ??

Mate 20x or Mate 20

After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9

For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.

mazinya said:
After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9
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That $300 you'd be saving over the course of two years is only $12 a month. If you had a Mate 20 X and a Mate 20 in front of you and you only owned the Mate 20 you'd probably kick yourself for not spending the extra few hundred and getting the Mate 20 X. If you plan on keeping the phone for a while then don't go cheap and just spend the extra money. Everything is loud on the 20 X. You won't be disappointed. I said the same thing, that I'd never spend this much money on a phone again until I heard about the 20 X. I'm glad I spent the money because the phone is awesome.

Governa said:
For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.
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Firmware Finder wont help. i tried everything. my phone wont get updates.
Big screen is also what i want.. although 6.5" with flat screen isnt that small either. Just hard to decide if phone is worth almost $1k

I have 2 units MATE 20 X, just like the guys above me said, the most i have ever spent on a phone was 475 EUR back in time when Nokia 93i was Released. Since then i have owned Galaxy Note 3 Clone, LeTV Le Max X900 ( which i buiild it myself with all the parts ) and Xiaomi Mi Mix. When Mate 20 X was released, i knew it since the first second this phone is for me... all i wanted was a bigger screen , as you may notice my Screen Experience has increased with every phone i have owned : Nokia N93i, Note 3 Clone, LeTv LeMax, Xiaomi Mi Mix 6.4inch.
Mate 20 X has almost everything you could possibly want from a Smartphone and still is cheaper than it's competitors : Big AMOLED Screen, Dual Stereo Speakers, Leica Triple Camera, 5000MAh battery. These are the reason i choose Mate 20 X. I' a little bit of a maniac, so i bought another one as a backup unit...
Get the Mate 20X, it is worth spending the money on this amazing smartphone.

Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.

ThaDraGun said:
Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.
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The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X

filip_pine said:
The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X
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No you missread
There is a 5G version of the Mate 20X being released.
I'm not talking about the folding mate x phone.

Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable

Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20

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Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20
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20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.

mazinya said:
20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.
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Pro is ugly too but that's my opinion of course. It's a no go for me and it also misses the 3.5mm audio jack.

I have never even considered the pro. it was never an option.

Same for me. Have you made your decision wether to go for the Mate 20 or 20X?
It sucks Huawei doesn't deliver it globally :/

Go for 20x. Its pricing is very competitive even now. There is no sense of Waiting. I mean, how much it has to drop so this woul be enough for you?

mazinya said:
Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable
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I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.

ajsmsg78 said:
I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.
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I understood that he is importing it from Singapore (not sure about that), and Clove is selling UK stock.. could this have effect on updates? I certainly wouldnt want that what happened with my Mate 9 would happen again with a $1000 phone

"Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?"
It's not a hassle at all to carry. It fits in pockets, etc. It is rather tall, but if you're interested in this phone at all, you know all about the size of it. It's a heavy phone. I don't mind the weight, though. I like a phone with a bit of heft. I have larger than average hands, but I still can't completely use it one-handed. I have no problem texting and other day to day uses using one hand, but I find that it's just easier to do certain things on it using two hands or one hand plus the pen accessory. If your hands aren't larger than most, you'll be using two hands more than you're used to using. It's no big deal though, and you get used to it quickly.
"Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money."
I bought the phone the day it was available internationally, so I paid close to a thousand dollars, and I still think the cost was justifiable. It has a killer screen, killer camera, pen input, an extremely reliable, rear-mounted fingerprint sensor, loud speakers, and lightning fast processor. Huawei has been updating this phone monthly so far. I've always been worried about Huawei's lack of support soon after a phone is released. They've been on top of this phone, however. I'm really satisfied with their support so far. I would imagine, however, that if you keep this phone for 3 or more years, your update and support expectations shouldn't be too high. I'm just guessing here, but I think the really good support Huawei is giving to the new Mate line of phones will slack off by October or so, once the new line comes out. In three years, I would imagine very little support.
"I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price."
I don't do much gaming either. Whatever else you do on this phone will be made better by the screen. It's that good, and it's really big. YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, web browsing....all that is excellent on this phone. Just remember, it's a heavy phone. So, long video or browsing sessions might take some effort if you're holding the phone the entire time.
If you can afford the X, I say go for it. Get the international version and get it working right out of the box. You won't be disappointed.

Gonna buy the phone today. I decided to get it from Clove UK since they give 2 years warranty unlike eBay. I hope i wont need it, but if i put down 1K on a phone, i would like to have some warranty. I heard that UK are about the last to get updates though

I've the 20X. Was going to get the pro but, don't like curved screens, don't want in screen scanner, don't use wireless charging... Don't like the dimensions. Mate 20 X is an epic phone however!
I had the Mate 9, first saw it on holiday whilst I'm Thailand then imported one and charged the region loved loved loved it. Then bricked it and binned it. Very sad day...
Had S9+ then Note 9 (got sent back) then Honor View 10 that ended up in the toilet... So I researched and was instantly drawn to the X.
Got it, thought I'd made a mistake on day one, was too big I thought... Day two, hell, I wouldn't consider anything else.
Speakers are fantastic, dolby atmos stereo, battery life stellar, sometimes I get 9 hours SOT, play PUBG, hdr video, goes on and on. Love this phone as much as I loved my mate 9.
You'll love it too. Guaranteed! Let us know how you get on!

Thoughts on upgrade from OP5T to OP7P

Hello my fellow geeks! I wanted to get some opinions on this subject that I'm sure has been covered 1000 times in the last few weeks but I'm curious nonetheless. Firstly, let me say that I'm a tech mark and I switch tech at least yearly if not more often including phones, tablets, wearables, etc. Currently, I own an OP5T (8/128), Galaxy Note 9 (8/512) and an iPhone XS Max 256 that I use for work. I'm definitely waiting on the new Note 10 when it drops later this summer but since the new OP7P dropped, I'm starting to get antsy after seeing the specs, features, and performance reviews of the phone online. With that said, I absolutely love my OP5T and that's the reason I've kept it so long. The speed, performance, and overall quality of the phone is almost unmatched by more current and higher priced phones on the market today. The phone is truly a flagship killer. However, I purposely missed the last several iterations of the phone because I didn't see any features that stood out enough for me to upgrade and in that time, I grabbed the Note 9 and iPhone XS Max which was even more reason to stay put. I've been enamored with the Note 9 in particular which completey took my attention away from the OP5T but with the release of the latest OP7P, my mouth began watering all over again. I for one don't mind the curved screen and the bezeless design is a thing of complete beauty. I love big screen phones so the 6.7 inch AMOLED screen is almost enough for me to upgrade on its own. Honestly I've been spoiled by the Note 9 but I paid twice over the price of the OP5T so that should be expected. The OP7P seems to be a step closer to that true flagship but with some tradeoffs of course like IP rating and wireless charging. Has anyone upgraded to the OP7P from the 5T specifically. I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, I never really entertained trade ups because usually it's a rip off but OP is offering 200 credit for the OP5T. Seems low ball but that's a nice discount off the new tech. Any opinions out there? I'd love to hear them. Happy Saturday everyone!!!
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Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.

dandrake47 said:
Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.
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I was thinking that same thing. Part of my reasoning is the trade in program as well although I may be able to sell it privately for at least 300-350 but it's such a pain having to deal with that process. I've always gotten the T version of the OnePlus so I think you may be right to hold out. T version may have wireless charging and if so I'm sold!!
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go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it

AlMaghraby said:
go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.

I was an op fan for the price to spec ratio but unfortunately they are going down the drain with the pricing and with software bugs+issues as mentioned in the last post.

AlMaghraby said:
go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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Same here, been thinking about upgrading my 5T to the 7 but for the same price I can get a S10+
And whilst OP has a better stock android experience, for the pricetag you are paying I personally think the S10+ is worth it more then the OP7 at that point.

TechieTwinToes said:
I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Very good advice my friend. Than you very much for the links and info. This is the type of objective opinion I was looking for. I think I will wait at least until they update the firmware and alleviate the issues. Thanks again!
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Okay, so the screen doesn't have an issue... it's a bug with NFC and the digitizer. And it's also easily fixable with a patch to the kernel.
The camera is actually pretty great with GCam mod. No root required like the 5T.
And I wouldn't go saying the Note 10 is a definite winner since it's not even announced yet and no specs have really been confirmed.

I just ended up returning mine. The curved screen kind of bothered me with the glare. I updated my old 5T and it is running really smooth on the latest beta.
Will wait for the next one.

After holding the 7 pro in my hand it made me love the superthin design of the 5T even more, mine is in a sandstone protective case from OnePlus and the 7 pro feels way too thick, in a case it's going to be a brick. It's a shame they made it so big.

Not sure if we will get a Mate 30 X

Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.

I'd like to think they would still release one, and it seems to have been a fairly popular device, certainly in the UK it's very readily available from high street stores.
If not, it's likely the 'X' brand will just be for foldables

yetiweston said:
I'd like to think they would still release one, and it seems to have been a fairly popular device, certainly in the UK it's very readily available from high street stores.
If not, it's likely the 'X' brand will just be for foldables
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Ye i hope too they will still release and not replace it for the Fold because it's not the same price range.

casinca said:
Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.
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I’m thinking that they will. It’s a very popular phone, and its price hasn’t dropped as severely as the 20 pro. Of course introducing a 30x could be “shooting them selves in the foot” as it’ll detract sales from the 5g version.

AFAIK it sold significantly better than the 20 Pro in some territories.
Sales are not the problem ... or you could say that they are. Huawei, like all the other big device makers are betting the farm on folders for huge new margins and increased profits. That's part of the reason they're constantly narrowing the screens. They want you to pay €1500-2000 to get 16:9 or wider aspect.
That's why phablets have been pretty much abandoned this year. If you see any at all, they're likely to be at 19.5:9, to make them narrow enough not to interfere with the folders.
IMO the 18.5:9 on the Mate 20 X is the absolute limit as far as reasonable usability is concerned. Anything worse than that, you lose so much of the screen when dealing with media, and it's pretty appalling for browsing and general productivity.
IMO if we see one, it'll share the same aspect as the Mate 20 Pro and P30 series. 19.5:9.
It's also why Xiaomi have canned the Max and Note series.
It is surprising though that none of the smaller players (who can't yet develop folders) has had the balls to do some 16:9 or 16:10 phablets. They'd sell like hot cakes.

casinca said:
Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.
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It’s probably 50/50, if they release a 30x it’ll detract from the 20x 5g sales. On the others hand it’s a really popular phone and it’s keeping its value more than the 20 pro.

Hopefully the Mate30X will get the AMOLED screen from Samsung instead of from LG.
And the Netherlands doesn't have the Mate20X officialy but long live shipping. I ordered mine from a German eBay seller.

30x could be a reality thanks to also Asus ROG phone 2.
Huawei has a special Ace with the 20X, it needs a bit more refinement and they could nail a super impressive phone.

Derpling said:
30x could be a reality thanks to also Asus ROG phone 2.
Huawei has a special Ace with the 20X, it needs a bit more refinement and they could nail a super impressive phone.
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Yeah but how many people are actually using the 20X as a 'gaming' phone as its initial launch marketing dictated? Very few IMO, hence why it was quickly dropped.
It's a big phablet for power users.
Like I say, if we get a 30X, I'll be amazed if they haven't significantly narrowed it, so as to make sure they don't cannibalise any folder sales. This is also the reason why I'm sure we won't see bezel-less tablets - no holding them isn't the reason why - you just put bevels on the rear panel.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/asus-may-have-made-the-most-powerful-android-phone-yet/amp
Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.

s327374 said:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/asus-may-have-made-the-most-powerful-android-phone-yet/amp
Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.
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I'd love one. If it was 16:9.

s327374 said:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/asus-may-have-made-the-most-powerful-android-phone-yet/amp
Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.
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Nice specs, but only 6.6 inch and camera not great like Huawei.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Nice specs, but only 6.6 inch and camera not great like Huawei.
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hmmm - darn - very good point. Fingers crossed for the oneplus 8 then?

I unlocked my bootloader, but came back to emui, , i had some problems with the translated rom and omnirom and rr have too many bugs :/

Huawei should make their conference in less than a month, nothing about a 20 X successor has filtered only 30 and pro.
I guess it's rip mate 30 X, we will never see you :crying:

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Huawei should make their conference in less than a month, nothing about a 20 X successor has filtered only 30 and pro.
I guess it's rip mate 30 X, we will never see you :crying:
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You must read all the news...there is a 30X...
https://www.******************/huawei-mate-30-and-mate-30-pro-specifications-price-and-availability/

moviehunter2009 said:
You must read all the news...there is a 30X...
https://www.******************/huawei-mate-30-and-mate-30-pro-specifications-price-and-availability/
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what happened to your link ? besides after the slash it says mate 30 and mate 30 pro
Do you have any working link, can't find any news on google about mate 30 X, specs about it, when you can find plenty of mate 30 and pro infos.

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what happened to your link ? besides after the slash it says mate 30 and mate 30 pro
Do you have any working link, can't find any news on google about mate 30 X, specs about it, when you can find plenty of mate 30 and pro infos.
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They dont let links as i see...go to huaweicentral dot com and you will find it posted on August 26, 2019

Didn't know it wasn't allowed but I found it, that's funny, the article is exact from today
I hope they are right as they're the first giving some clues about it like "Mate 30 X expected to get bigger screen than 7.2 inches" damn

I also followed huawei central for this but news are very unclear. Just few infos, no one spec.
On the other hand, last autumn 20x also was surprise, some rumours were that 20 pro will have huge display, but not much talk about 20x...
So, maybe

Mate 30 X seems gonna happen with a samsung flat display!!!!

check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo

MONSTERELLEVEN said:
check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo
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Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]

BigDisplay said:
Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]
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Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44
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Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.

BigDisplay said:
Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.
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Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10
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Lol nice, had Sammy note 4 and 5 to btw, if i remember rihgt they was 5,7 inch in my loving 16:9 format... Huge phones.
But this i like most was my zenfone 3 ultra, still have it , but never use it anylonger, but its still a beast today in my opinion.

Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177

Don't jump to conclusions. YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo looks more like list of wishes and speculations to me than firm confirmation of Mate 30X launch. On the other side China and the US are still in harsh trading negotiations. I think it's too early to say there will be no Google for Mate 30.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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I use Google my self, but to be honest... I would love to try Harmony OS and i will find my self some other stuff mail prg etc etc.
So for me this could be good, Android not that exciting anymore, only minor updates every time a new version comes. And iOS, been there done that.
Its NASTY as we say these days in Denmark [emoji1787][emoji23]

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again

BigDisplay said:
https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again
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Here they say it will have Android but without the Google apps.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...unch-under-cloud-of-android-ban-idUSKCN1VI240

Huawei will be doing fine with Harmony OS. Who needs google apps when you can have all the Chinese alternative apps. No youtube? Use Youku. No Google search? Use Baidu. No gmail? Use QQ mail.

Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect ones have.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.

mudnightoil said:
Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect has.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.
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I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.

I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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MONSTERELLEVEN said:
I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.
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I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.

mudnightoil said:
I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.
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I am all in for a bug screen that's well used, I already don't care for one handed use bc I want big so I won't complain about sth I already know!
I totally get it about the aspect ratio.

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I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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I didn't buy the mate 20 x to wait and see if there is a mate 30x.
I don't want too much changes but somethings could get better like higher resolution for more clarity, better video quality / cam etc, maybe a hole bunch camera on the top left side to minimize the distraction etc or even in the middle like the note, an even bigger battery if possible ( 5000 is still awesome) 8 gigs of ram to be standard across all versions with 256 gigs.

I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.

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I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.
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Totally agree with you on the pen, right now it does feel just like any other stylus etc