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Native hotspot with Verizon unlimited data working?

I'm grandfathered into a Verizon unlimited data plan and use the native hotspot on my phone all the time. I understand the native hotspot app worked with most of the Nexus 6P's for those with Verizon UDP and the 5X could be made to work with modding the build.prop. Question I'm anxious to find out is if the Pixel phones native hotspot works with Verizon UDP's or can be modified to do so. Thanks for any info.

The Verizon pixel performs the check to see if hotspot is on your plan. Just verified it with my friend's pixel that came in. You'll probably have to do the build.prop mod. My question is if you can do the mod with the bootloader locked.

This is not what I wanted to hear, might have to send mine back or try and sell since I got mine for a 2 year contract price. I use the tethering a lot in the car for my kids ipads.

biggiestuff said:
The Verizon pixel performs the check to see if hotspot is on your plan. Just verified it with my friend's pixel that came in. You'll probably have to do the build.prop mod. My question is if you can do the mod with the bootloader locked.
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Oh, nevermind...didn't see Verizon Pixel....
Did your friend buy the phone from VZW or Google?

Mike01680 said:
This is not what I wanted to hear, might have to send mine back or try and sell since I got mine for a 2 year contract price. I use the tethering a lot in the car for my kids ipads.
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That's exactly my situation too...and it's not what I wanted to hear either.

pothole said:
Oh, nevermind...didn't see Verizon Pixel....
Did your friend buy the phone from VZW or Google?
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Verizon. my guess is the google version will be the same but that's only because i'm going off my experience with the Nexus 6. I got my N6 from Motorola and it still did the subscription check when I put my verizon sim in. I had to modify the build.prop and adb shell command it to get it working. oddly my N7 LTE doesn't perform this check so there is still hope that the Pixel from google store might be different.

My 6P from Google doesn't check on Verizon. Hoping that the Pixel from Google won't check then either. I need that to work as other have said.

pothole said:
That's exactly my situation too...and it's not what I wanted to hear either.
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FoxFi should work as it worked on s7 edge and note 7 so no need for native tethering

cccoltsicehockey said:
My 6P from Google doesn't check on Verizon. Hoping that the Pixel from Google won't check then either. I need that to work as other have said.
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That's nice. I hope it's the same as your 6p.
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I can confirm my 6P from Google does not perform the check on Verizon and native tethering works on my UDP. I should have my Pixel tomorrow so I will check and see what works, if I can't get Foxfi or the native tether to work it will be for sale or sent back shortly.

I have the 6p Currently and can confirm as well it did not do the subscriber check.. I just got my Pixel XL in the mail from Verizon and I am getting no go with Foxfi (in wifi mode) and The built in tether.

This is not looking good, I wonder if the model from Google will work.

Mike01680 said:
This is not looking good, I wonder if the model from Google will work.
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Let's hope!

gwallers said:
I have the 6p Currently and can confirm as well it did not do the subscriber check.. I just got my Pixel XL in the mail from Verizon and I am getting no go with Foxfi (in wifi mode) and The built in tether.
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That could be a decision maker for me.

Foxfi + Pro key doesn't work..I have both and have already tried it..it will NOT work..pry gonna have to root and do a build prop mod or something
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I use easy tether/easy tether tablet. I wonder if that would work.
Transmissum est uti Tapatalk ab Xperia Z-IV meo.

nozzleman_85 said:
Foxfi + Pro key doesn't work..I have both and have already tried it..it will NOT work..pry gonna have to root and do a build prop mod or something
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Wow if I cant get tether I will have to sell it immediately. I may just leave it sealed in box until I can get confirmation that tether works on UDP. I don't want to return the phone because I need to be locked in contract so I don't get that $20 price hike on UDP

I am not on Verizon, but in a similar boat with ATT "unlimited". My Google bought N5 worked fine with the built-in hotspot toggle (I don't think it was sold through carriers), but my N6 didn't (it was bought from ATT). If I recall correctly, the N6 checked your SIM card to see what carrier you were on and then restricted the wifi hotspot depending on permissions from the carrier. The N6 would also install bloatware depending on your SIM card. One trick was to not install your SIM card at the initial turn-on. I think that kept the bloatware off, but I am not sure about wifi hotspot functionality. I rooted the N6 and modified two files to get the hotspot to work. If the Pixel hotspot works out of the box, I may not feel the need to root.

Has anyone tried to tether on a Verizon UDP with a pixel purchased through the Google Store?

I don't think anyone has one from the Google store yet
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Hotspot worked on Nexus 5. Pixel XL now checks for a subscription. Whats different?

I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot?
Thanks in advance.

This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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arcanexvi said:
This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?

guitarplayersteven said:
Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
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Once we get root there probably will be.

guitarplayersteven said:
Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
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Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
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arcanexvi said:
Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
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A representative at AT&T said this is a common problem with unlocked phones (One Plus owners specifically), and they have resolved this issue in the past. We'll see how far she gets. If she does not find a solution, I'll have to consider other options.
Thanks for your input.

Thrillhouse847 said:
Once we get root there probably will be.
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Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032

guitarplayersteven said:
Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
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That was fast.

guitarplayersteven said:
I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot? Thanks in advance.
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You can use this trick to get the hotspot going on your phone without root. I have tried it on my Pixel XL with ATT. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69229666&postcount=35
The Network Signal Refresher app you will need is here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atejapps.networksignalrefresher&hl=en My N6 checked with the death star for hotspot permission. Rooting the N6 and modifying two files had me tethering all I wanted. It is nice to be able to tether without root using the network app. If you tether up a storm, ATT may very well send you a text. One of the files that got modified on the N6 told the phone not to send all the tethering data through a specific tethering path via ATT. So even though you can get a hotspot on the Pixel, it will be easy for ATT to know you are tethering.

Difference between: Google Pixel XL and VZW Google Pixel XL?

So I am considering getting a Pixel XL to replace my 6P, in doing so my work is also upgrading me from my current "grandfathered UDP" to one of the new Unlimited Plans. I'm cool with this other than the tethering limit of 10gb...I use my phone to tether and stream video on my laptop A LOT. Right now my "grandfathered" plan doesn't know I tether because I am using a Nexus 6P I bought from Google direct.
Can I avoid the 10gb limit by unlocking and flashing stock factory images (so there's no VZW software on the phone) or is it more complicated?

GatorsUF said:
So I am considering getting a Pixel XL to replace my 6P, in doing so my work is also upgrading me from my current "grandfathered UDP" to one of the new Unlimited Plans. I'm cool with this other than the tethering limit of 10gb...I use my phone to tether and stream video on my laptop A LOT. Right now my "grandfathered" plan doesn't know I tether because I am using a Nexus 6P I bought from Google direct.
Can I avoid the 10gb limit by unlocking and flashing stock factory images (so there's no VZW software on the phone) or is it more complicated?
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There is no difference in software between the VZ version and Googles other than some minor tweeks for the network.
You won't be able to unlock the VZ version unless VZ messes up and accidentally sends you a Google version. It has happened, but is rare. Again, software is the same. VZ versions are in a database that the phone checks to see if it is authorized to unlock.
I dont know how to bypass the tethering limit, nor do I know how VZ checks that.

Hmm so the VZW version can't be unlocked with adb? That is likely a deal breaker...

GatorsUF said:
Hmm so the VZW version can't be unlocked with adb? That is likely a deal breaker...
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I don't lay attention to VZ branded phones anymore. I just get Google phones and use them on VZ. So this is an honest question...what VZ phones these days are unlockable/rootable?
Will your employer buy you the Google version? That is what I had mine do for me.

No they won't, but it's all good. I'll just wait for the Pixel 2 and buy it for $800 like I planned on doing originally. A $200 pixel was just hard to pass up...

hotspot with no root?

I have an old 6P, and I want to upgrade to the Pixel 3 when it comes out, but I'm not sure my 6P is going to make it that long.
There are a ton of cheap Pixel XL's out there, but I can only find the Verizon version, and as I've read here, you can't unlock the bootloader.
The only reason I have my phone rooted right now is that I'm on ATT with unlimited data, but I need a hotspot.
So the question is, if I get one of these Verizon Pixel XL's, and I put in my ATT sim, and my hotspot is disabled, is there a way to enable the hotspot without root? Are there workarounds? I guess that's what I'm asking...

Verizon gUDP & Hotspot on Unlocked Pixel 3 XL

Purchased a Pixel 3 XL Unlocked in hopes of utilizing my gUDP on Verizon without issue similar to other unlocked phones like PH1 and Note 8. Pixel arrived today, and no go. Does anyone have any clue why this is? Do I have to wait for root to be able to use hotspot? I'd have to have to get rid of the device, but this is a big issue for me.

jdougal11 said:
Purchased a Pixel 3 XL Unlocked in hopes of utilizing my gUDP on Verizon without issue similar to other unlocked phones like PH1 and Note 8. Pixel arrived today, and no go. Does anyone have any clue why this is? Do I have to wait for root to be able to use hotspot? I'd have to have to get rid of the device, but this is a big issue for me.
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What's the specific issue you're having? What doesn't work?

Looks like it's doing a subscription check (which with the grandfathered unlimited plan isn't included) and won't allow hotspot to be enabled. I knew buying a Verizon version would likely cause this to happen. Other unlocked devices have worked however without issue.

The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true

DougMG said:
The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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That's unfortunate, then keeping updated is a pain isn't it?
How long after launch is root usually obtained?

I bought the pixel from Google and tethering does not work on Verizon like it did with the older phones so it looks like Google is now checking even if you buy unlocked. But with Magisk tethering enabler tethering works. You need to search the forums for the patched version that works with the newest Magisk.
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jdougal11 said:
Looks like it's doing a subscription check (which with the grandfathered unlimited plan isn't included) and won't allow hotspot to be enabled. I knew buying a Verizon version would likely cause this to happen. Other unlocked devices have worked however without issue.
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Sorry, off topic; but you still have the old grandfathered unlimited? I used to have it until Verizon forced me off of it for "using too much data". I survived the first wave when they were forcing people off the plan but eventually they had a thing were if you were using over 100GB a month on average they were terminating your line. I consistently used around 300GB a month and sometimes even more so one day I got a notification that they were terminating my line and I needed to "upgrade" (which was really a huge downgrade for more money) to one of the new unlimited lines.
Anyway, Sorry again, I was just shocked to hear people are still on the old school unlimited which the whole time I had it was true unlimited with no throttling. Best plan in cell phone history and I miss it so much :'(

Root already established
topjohnwu magisk official version not out yet but already done
jdougal11 said:
That's unfortunate, then keeping updated is a pain isn't it?
How long after launch is root usually obtained?
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Ok perfect. Maybe I'll keep the device then and wait for root instructions.
Yes still have gUDP. I use it daily at work but tend to keep it under 100gb a month. I don't do any heavy video streaming etc to ensure I stay under each month. They did increase the data to $49.99 over the $29.99. Still no throttling and up to 100gbs can't be beat.

DougMG said:
The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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I added this setting to my build.prop on my rooted/unlocked Pixel 3 XL and rebooted the phone. I'm still prompted with the "To use Mobile Hotspot, please call customer service to subscribe."

dmalikyar said:
I added this setting to my build.prop on my rooted/unlocked Pixel 3 XL and rebooted the phone. I'm still prompted with the "To use Mobile Hotspot, please call customer service to subscribe."
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I don't have the answer but makes sense the thread would end like this...

MendonMafia said:
I don't have the answer but makes sense the thread would end like this...
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Update:. I performed the initial update using a text editor and no success. I then downloaded buildprop editor and made the change and it worked like a charm. You need to be rooted.

Check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdanet. Join the beta for use on Pixel 3 / XL.