I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot?
Thanks in advance.
This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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arcanexvi said:
This has come up over and over since the Nexus 6. Android itself now has it built into the back end to check with the carrier for hotspot provisioning. Some carriers don't care. Most do.
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Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
guitarplayersteven said:
Hm, I did not know that. Any way around it?
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Once we get root there probably will be.
guitarplayersteven said:
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Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
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Subscribe to the service?
For those of you still on UDP still, you have to be aware at this point that VZW doesn't really like that you still have it which is why they keep raising your prices. You're just giving them a really good reason to kick you off that plan tier by violating your ToS. Yes they can do this. Keep skirting it if you'd like but don't be surprised if it happens. The carriers can see what type of traffic is passing through the device. This how TMO caught people on old legacy plans before they started giving away hotspot.
I'm sure a workaround will pop up at some point but I've experienced it myself and known a few other people that lost old legacy plans this way.
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A representative at AT&T said this is a common problem with unlocked phones (One Plus owners specifically), and they have resolved this issue in the past. We'll see how far she gets. If she does not find a solution, I'll have to consider other options.
Thanks for your input.
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Once we get root there probably will be.
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Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
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Check this out if you haven't seen it already: https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
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That was fast.
guitarplayersteven said:
I never had a hotspot subscription, but my mobile hotspot seemed to work perfectly on my Nexus 5. Never did I see "checking for subscription" on my Nexus 5.
Today, after activating my nano SIM, I go to try mobile hotspot and now my Pixel XL checks for an AT&T subscription. This is a bummer since I have an unlimited data plan.
I understand that this is a service AT&T wants to sell, but I'm confused as to what the differences between the two phones are. Both phones are bought from Google directly.
Also, do any of you know of an app which can create a hotspot? Thanks in advance.
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You can use this trick to get the hotspot going on your phone without root. I have tried it on my Pixel XL with ATT. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69229666&postcount=35
The Network Signal Refresher app you will need is here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atejapps.networksignalrefresher&hl=en My N6 checked with the death star for hotspot permission. Rooting the N6 and modifying two files had me tethering all I wanted. It is nice to be able to tether without root using the network app. If you tether up a storm, ATT may very well send you a text. One of the files that got modified on the N6 told the phone not to send all the tethering data through a specific tethering path via ATT. So even though you can get a hotspot on the Pixel, it will be easy for ATT to know you are tethering.
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Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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When I select to turn it on, it runs through a "checking for subscription" then pops up an Error window that I'm not authorized to run it and have to call Customer Service. It was the first thing I tried as soon as I walked out of the VZW store this morning.
Greg Tolan said:
Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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I'd like to know this as well. Chances are though, you have to be rooted and the hotspot app will have to be hacked for it to be used without detection check by VZW. I am with Sprint OG Samsung Epic, and these were the necessary steps to get Sprint hotspot to work without having a plan. I am sure a dev will be able to get it done in time. In the meantime, suggest rooting and using either Barnacle tether or Wifi Tether, or if you want to stay stock: PDANet.
After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
Framework patch. Give it a week. Or just pay for it.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
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Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
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That's not the problem. Not being able to tether could potentially be a dealbreaker for some people (myself included).
Its blocked. You've got to root and remove the software they have for tracking tethering. Or wait for a CDMA custom ROM to come out that has unblocked tethering.
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LOL
If it's that big of a deal, pay for it then.
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At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
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Yup. You'll just have to get a rom that has tethering open for all of our hearts' content!
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Using a 3rd party app doesn't remove Verizon's tracking software. They'll still see you're doing it based on my experiences w/ VZW phones...
I'm assuming you guys have tried Google's Wireless Tether app. No dice?
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Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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People aren't "stealing" bandwidth. They're paying for it and using it. This isn't even an argument in a world of capped data plans. If you pay for 2GB or 4GB or 10GB+, you're buying that bandwidth from VZW. Its yours to use. And carriers are being beyond ridiculous, forcing consumers to pay for data twice.
And it is crippling (albeit thats a bit dramatic) the OS. ICS (and 2.2, 2.3) has wired/wireless tethering enabled. Removing that, is removing a feature that used to make the OS whole.
Just to clear the air -
Currently - no matter what App you use, you cannot WiFi tether.
Verizon is blocking ALL WiFi tether - you will need to remove the check.
Thanks for the update. What are the chances that this check can be removed? I know people with the Bionic were having problems tethering (still not sure if they can).
This is a deal breaker for me, so I'm hoping it isn't something too complicated for the devs to remove.
P.S. Let's not turn this into a morality thread. This is a place to discuss whether or not you can get WiFi tethering working without paying extra for it.
This is a huge problem, I need to tether by next Thursday.
Just curious if people think we can tether freely out of the box on the 5X. I'm on Verizon, grandfathered Unlimited Data and I know on the Moto X Pure 2015 you could just pop your sim card in and tether without editing anything in the build.prop or whatever file it was.
I know there is no Verizon software baked in to the rom obviously, but I've heard default android can include a subscription check or something similar in the tethering for this sort of thing.
I believe tethering restrictions are based on the carrier back-end and not the phone. On T-Mobile USA, I was able to tether with my N6 without any problems.
Verizon actively restricts tethering on their branded devices by locking the bootloader. As the nexus is not branded by or sold by verizon, you should be able to tether without issue.
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Just curious if people think we can tether freely out of the box on the 5X. I'm on Verizon, grandfathered Unlimited Data and I know on the Moto X Pure 2015 you could just pop your sim card in and tether without editing anything in the build.prop or whatever file it was.
I know there is no Verizon software baked in to the rom obviously, but I've heard default android can include a subscription check or something similar in the tethering for this sort of thing.
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Just got my 5x today and unfortunately no, tethering does not work (on Verizon - I also have the grandfathered unlimited plan). I'm still looking into a work around (you can use FoxFi, which doesn't require rooting), but I'd rather have it through the ROM. I am considering rooting. However, I'm not sure if we know the long-term consequences of the setting off the QFuse.
Anyone know of a way to tether (without rooting - until we know more about QFuse)?
I am able to set up wifi hotspots from mine on AT&T without issue. I don't have a device handy to test out USB tethering but I don't know why that would be any different.
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Just got my 5x today and unfortunately no, tethering does not work (on Verizon - I also have the grandfathered unlimited plan). I'm still looking into a work around (you can use FoxFi, which doesn't require rooting), but I'd rather have it through the ROM. I am considering rooting. However, I'm not sure if we know the long-term consequences of the setting off the QFuse.
Anyone know of a way to tether (without rooting - until we know more about QFuse)?
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Did you actually try using FoxFi? Mine does not work. (I also have Verizon on the grandfathered unlimited plan.) I get an "android.permission.CONNECTIVITY_INTERNAL error".
I don't have my 5x yet to test on my own, but I did come across this and hopefully it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-unlock-tethering-android-4-4-to-t3227206
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I don't have my 5x yet to test on my own, but I did come across this and hopefully it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-unlock-tethering-android-4-4-to-t3227206
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I just need my A to C cable to arrive to check it out! Thanks, I've been looking for this. My cable arrives tomorrow.
I'm grandfathered into a Verizon unlimited data plan and use the native hotspot on my phone all the time. I understand the native hotspot app worked with most of the Nexus 6P's for those with Verizon UDP and the 5X could be made to work with modding the build.prop. Question I'm anxious to find out is if the Pixel phones native hotspot works with Verizon UDP's or can be modified to do so. Thanks for any info.
The Verizon pixel performs the check to see if hotspot is on your plan. Just verified it with my friend's pixel that came in. You'll probably have to do the build.prop mod. My question is if you can do the mod with the bootloader locked.
This is not what I wanted to hear, might have to send mine back or try and sell since I got mine for a 2 year contract price. I use the tethering a lot in the car for my kids ipads.
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The Verizon pixel performs the check to see if hotspot is on your plan. Just verified it with my friend's pixel that came in. You'll probably have to do the build.prop mod. My question is if you can do the mod with the bootloader locked.
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Oh, nevermind...didn't see Verizon Pixel....
Did your friend buy the phone from VZW or Google?
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This is not what I wanted to hear, might have to send mine back or try and sell since I got mine for a 2 year contract price. I use the tethering a lot in the car for my kids ipads.
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That's exactly my situation too...and it's not what I wanted to hear either.
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Oh, nevermind...didn't see Verizon Pixel....
Did your friend buy the phone from VZW or Google?
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Verizon. my guess is the google version will be the same but that's only because i'm going off my experience with the Nexus 6. I got my N6 from Motorola and it still did the subscription check when I put my verizon sim in. I had to modify the build.prop and adb shell command it to get it working. oddly my N7 LTE doesn't perform this check so there is still hope that the Pixel from google store might be different.
My 6P from Google doesn't check on Verizon. Hoping that the Pixel from Google won't check then either. I need that to work as other have said.
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That's exactly my situation too...and it's not what I wanted to hear either.
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FoxFi should work as it worked on s7 edge and note 7 so no need for native tethering
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My 6P from Google doesn't check on Verizon. Hoping that the Pixel from Google won't check then either. I need that to work as other have said.
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That's nice. I hope it's the same as your 6p.
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I can confirm my 6P from Google does not perform the check on Verizon and native tethering works on my UDP. I should have my Pixel tomorrow so I will check and see what works, if I can't get Foxfi or the native tether to work it will be for sale or sent back shortly.
I have the 6p Currently and can confirm as well it did not do the subscriber check.. I just got my Pixel XL in the mail from Verizon and I am getting no go with Foxfi (in wifi mode) and The built in tether.
This is not looking good, I wonder if the model from Google will work.
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This is not looking good, I wonder if the model from Google will work.
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Let's hope!
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I have the 6p Currently and can confirm as well it did not do the subscriber check.. I just got my Pixel XL in the mail from Verizon and I am getting no go with Foxfi (in wifi mode) and The built in tether.
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That could be a decision maker for me.
Foxfi + Pro key doesn't work..I have both and have already tried it..it will NOT work..pry gonna have to root and do a build prop mod or something
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I use easy tether/easy tether tablet. I wonder if that would work.
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Foxfi + Pro key doesn't work..I have both and have already tried it..it will NOT work..pry gonna have to root and do a build prop mod or something
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Wow if I cant get tether I will have to sell it immediately. I may just leave it sealed in box until I can get confirmation that tether works on UDP. I don't want to return the phone because I need to be locked in contract so I don't get that $20 price hike on UDP
I am not on Verizon, but in a similar boat with ATT "unlimited". My Google bought N5 worked fine with the built-in hotspot toggle (I don't think it was sold through carriers), but my N6 didn't (it was bought from ATT). If I recall correctly, the N6 checked your SIM card to see what carrier you were on and then restricted the wifi hotspot depending on permissions from the carrier. The N6 would also install bloatware depending on your SIM card. One trick was to not install your SIM card at the initial turn-on. I think that kept the bloatware off, but I am not sure about wifi hotspot functionality. I rooted the N6 and modified two files to get the hotspot to work. If the Pixel hotspot works out of the box, I may not feel the need to root.
Has anyone tried to tether on a Verizon UDP with a pixel purchased through the Google Store?
I don't think anyone has one from the Google store yet
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I am still on Verizon's grandfather unlimited data plan and I work remotely from home so, I need my hotspot. Is it easy or even necessary to root this device to enable the hotspot capability as I have it on my old rooted Samsung S5? (Yes, I am still holding to it only because of this convenience but, my phone is unbearable slow now after all of these "app updates").
Not necessary as I understand. Settings, Mobile hot spot and tethering
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I am still on Verizon's grandfather unlimited data plan and I work remotely from home so, I need my hotspot. Is it easy or even necessary to root this device to enable the hotspot capability as I have it on my old rooted Samsung S5? (Yes, I am still holding to it only because of this convenience but, my phone is unbearable slow now after all of these "app updates").
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No it's not easy to root. If you do it, you will only get 80% battery charge. Verizon's will be unlocked or you can flash unlocked software to Verizon which would make it the same as buying Samsung unlocked. I can't say on tether hack but I feel like I've seen something on it somewhere, asked somewhere else. Maybe try Reddit's Verizon page or Reddits Verizon Unlimited page as well if it's not here.
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Not necessary as I understand. Settings, Mobile hot spot and tethering
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I know were it would be located in settings but, not necessary trying to kick my carrier anymore money on top of my bill doing it the conventional way.
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I saw this referencing another post somewhere:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-8/how-to/tethering-verizon-udp-t3668655
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I saw this referencing another post somewhere:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-8/how-to/tethering-verizon-udp-t3668655
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That thread has been removed unfortunately
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Both of these threads I listed have recent success stories for grandfathered unlimited hacks. The answer just may not be in the first post.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...to/note-8-hotspot-hack-grandfathered-t3673943
Purchased a Pixel 3 XL Unlocked in hopes of utilizing my gUDP on Verizon without issue similar to other unlocked phones like PH1 and Note 8. Pixel arrived today, and no go. Does anyone have any clue why this is? Do I have to wait for root to be able to use hotspot? I'd have to have to get rid of the device, but this is a big issue for me.
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Purchased a Pixel 3 XL Unlocked in hopes of utilizing my gUDP on Verizon without issue similar to other unlocked phones like PH1 and Note 8. Pixel arrived today, and no go. Does anyone have any clue why this is? Do I have to wait for root to be able to use hotspot? I'd have to have to get rid of the device, but this is a big issue for me.
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What's the specific issue you're having? What doesn't work?
Looks like it's doing a subscription check (which with the grandfathered unlimited plan isn't included) and won't allow hotspot to be enabled. I knew buying a Verizon version would likely cause this to happen. Other unlocked devices have worked however without issue.
The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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That's unfortunate, then keeping updated is a pain isn't it?
How long after launch is root usually obtained?
I bought the pixel from Google and tethering does not work on Verizon like it did with the older phones so it looks like Google is now checking even if you buy unlocked. But with Magisk tethering enabler tethering works. You need to search the forums for the patched version that works with the newest Magisk.
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Looks like it's doing a subscription check (which with the grandfathered unlimited plan isn't included) and won't allow hotspot to be enabled. I knew buying a Verizon version would likely cause this to happen. Other unlocked devices have worked however without issue.
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Sorry, off topic; but you still have the old grandfathered unlimited? I used to have it until Verizon forced me off of it for "using too much data". I survived the first wave when they were forcing people off the plan but eventually they had a thing were if you were using over 100GB a month on average they were terminating your line. I consistently used around 300GB a month and sometimes even more so one day I got a notification that they were terminating my line and I needed to "upgrade" (which was really a huge downgrade for more money) to one of the new unlimited lines.
Anyway, Sorry again, I was just shocked to hear people are still on the old school unlimited which the whole time I had it was true unlimited with no throttling. Best plan in cell phone history and I miss it so much :'(
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That's unfortunate, then keeping updated is a pain isn't it?
How long after launch is root usually obtained?
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Ok perfect. Maybe I'll keep the device then and wait for root instructions.
Yes still have gUDP. I use it daily at work but tend to keep it under 100gb a month. I don't do any heavy video streaming etc to ensure I stay under each month. They did increase the data to $49.99 over the $29.99. Still no throttling and up to 100gbs can't be beat.
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The Pixel XL is the same way on Verizon. I have one that I purchased directly from Google. In order to get the hotspot working you will need to root the phone and edit the build prop to include this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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I added this setting to my build.prop on my rooted/unlocked Pixel 3 XL and rebooted the phone. I'm still prompted with the "To use Mobile Hotspot, please call customer service to subscribe."
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I added this setting to my build.prop on my rooted/unlocked Pixel 3 XL and rebooted the phone. I'm still prompted with the "To use Mobile Hotspot, please call customer service to subscribe."
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I don't have the answer but makes sense the thread would end like this...
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I don't have the answer but makes sense the thread would end like this...
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Update:. I performed the initial update using a text editor and no success. I then downloaded buildprop editor and made the change and it worked like a charm. You need to be rooted.
Check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdanet. Join the beta for use on Pixel 3 / XL.