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[Q] What's ZL's screen made of?

What's ZL's screen made of?
It's not gorilla glass... so, what is it?
Thanks.

pedromsouza said:
What's ZL's screen made of?
It's not gorilla glass... so, what is it?
Thanks.
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Dragontrail its better tan gorilla glass

danieldp1990 said:
Dragontrail its better tan gorilla glass
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Oh, I'll youtube that! Thanks.
And you use it with the original screen protector?

Dragontail is used on the Z's body and screen I don't know about the ZL.
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TitoXx said:
Dragontail is used on the Z's body and screen I don't know about the ZL.
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Its the same. and the Z Uses gorilla glass on the back.

danieldp1990 said:
Its the same. and the Z Uses gorilla glass on the back.
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Do you have any source for that? I've searched but haven't found any info on what glass is used on the ZL.

einfachgaer said:
Do you have any source for that? I've searched but haven't found any info on what glass is used on the ZL.
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its obvious sont never almost never uses gorilla glass. and ZL is newer than Z even better.

i vaguely remember reading somewhere that it was only the Z that got the dragontail treatment. the zl uses whatever the other option is besides gorilla glass and dragontail.

I think i read somewhere the screen of ZL is made up of normal mineral glass (used in watches etc just a little bit scratch proof) nothing fancy like dragontrail or gorilla glass, may be that's the reason they have put a shatterproof sheet on the glass to keep it all together in case of an accident.

ghost_razr said:
I think i read somewhere the screen of ZL is made up of normal mineral glass (used in watches etc just a little bit scratch proof) nothing fancy like dragontrail or gorilla glass, may be that's the reason they have put a shatterproof sheet on the glass to keep it all together in case of an accident.
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Hmmm... then why do they put a screen protector on the Z's as well?

My understanding is the Z uses Dragontrail on the front.
With Gorilla Glass on the rear.
Apparently the reason for the rear being Gorilla Glass, it allows the different colour finishes the Z is available in.
Does the Xperia Z use both Dragontrail and Gorilla Glass?
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/02/20/does-the-xperia-z-use-both-dragontrail-and-gorilla-glass/
I have taken the ZL to have the same glass as the Z.
Particularly as it uses the same protective shatterproof film arrangement
But unlike the Z, the ZL's Sony logo is embedded in the glass.
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scifan said:
Hmmm... then why do they put a screen protector on the Z's as well?
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Well all the aricles on Internet are misleading about Z's display glass so I'm not sure about it but I guess front display glass of both should be same.

The back of the Z being Gorilla Glass is news to me but I can assure you that Sony doesn't use Gorilla Glass if so it being on the back of the Z then maybe but it's not on the front the Z or the ZL
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Torres77an said:
The back of the Z being Gorilla Glass is news to me but I can assure you that Sony doesn't use Gorilla Glass if so it being on the back of the Z then maybe but it's not on the front the Z or the ZL
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Xperia SP uses gorilla glass. Says so on Sony site. It's kinda weird that SP has it and none of the other phones do. Maybe they are dragontail. I wish Sony would be specific about the glass.

mrsatan said:
Xperia SP uses gorilla glass. Says so on Sony site. It's kinda weird that SP has it and none of the other phones do. Maybe they are dragontail. I wish Sony would be specific about the glass.
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Your right I forgot about the SP it does use Gorilla Glass it's strange the choices they make why only the SP I wish my Xperia T used it as well.

So we still don't know what's Zl's screen made of. It's weird that Sony makes it so hard to find out. It should be on the official specs page.

scifan said:
Hmmm... then why do they put a screen protector on the Z's as well?
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You know whats funny about that screen protector on Z, when you remove it the SONY logo goes off with it. Its printed on the screen protector... Not a case for ZL though.

Back side is plastic?

Good morning!
After discussions over a week, the european users are not sure if the back side is really glas. Also, if there is a splatter protection foil over it.
Is here any user who tried to put off the backside foil?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50099918&postcount=304

"The phone has metallic sides, a polished polycarbonate back and Gorilla Glass front." - V3

According to Sony Z1 Compact White Paper http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/d5503/whitepaper_EN_d5503_xperia_z1_compact_1.pdf Page 3 quoted "Both the front and back are made of durable tempered glass, reflecting the world around you while allowing you to get so immersed in content that the hardware virtually disappears"
Looks like there are some confusion here and Sony will be in big trouble. No one sure the front is Dragontail or Gorilla glass too.

Sorry but changing a whitepaper after release? Sony, what's up?
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XperienceD said:
"The phone has metallic sides, a polished polycarbonate back and Gorilla Glass front." - V3
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Dunno about plastic back, but the piece about front glass is wrong - Sony does NOT use Gorilla glass in it's products, it uses Dragontrail glass.

AFAIK the back and front are made out of glass and are covered by a protective foil, just like the Z1.

Random Username said:
AFAIK the back and front are made out of glass and are covered by a protective foil, just like the Z1.
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Proof pls? Heard much about glass and ASF both side but no proof yet.

Actually it's official. Back cover IS plastic.
From the new whitepaper (http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_Compact_D5503_WP1.pdf):
The front side of the phone is made of durable tempered glass, reflecting the world around you while allowing you to get so immersed in content that the hardware virtually disappears.
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PS: Try comparing it to the old whitepaper for the fun and giggles. (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/d5503/whitepaper_EN_d5503_xperia_z1_compact_1.pdf):
Both the front and back are made of durable tempered glass, reflecting the world around you while allowing you to get so immersed in content that the hardware virtually disappears.
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TheQwertiest said:
Actually it's official. Back cover IS plastic.
From the new whitepaper (http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_Compact_D5503_WP1.pdf):
PS: Try comparing it to the old whitepaper for the fun and giggles. (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/d5503/whitepaper_EN_d5503_xperia_z1_compact_1.pdf):
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can you quote the page number and line in new white paper, didn't find plastic word in whole document.

Page 3 Top Left Corner

ImAnurag said:
can you quote the page number and line in new white paper, didn't find plastic word in whole document.
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You do understand, that if the back was made from glass, then there would be no point to editing the whitepaper in such a way? Of course, we can pretend, that is made from glass even when it's not, till there is an explicit statement... But, hey, this whitepaper is the closest thing we can get to Sony's acknowledgement of their mistake in the misleading device description -_-

Exactly this is what I wanted to let you know by starting this thread...
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You mean the protection foil out of the box like the one in front? Or is there also an additional foil on the back?
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SirRobin78 said:
You mean the protection foil out of the box like the one in front? Or is there also an additional foil on the back?
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I hope there is a film to peel off the back, because mine somehow got scuffed and it's been in a case since day one.

Shebe7 said:
It`s plastic, I removed that protection foil from the first day, I can`t stand the idea of it. Anyhow it`s a good plastic, resistant to daily shocks, since I managed to drop it to the ground
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Do you mind share how you removed the back plastic protector?
I can not seems to find where it is joined to the body at corners.
Also have few deep marks on 10 days old Compact, though normal use. My Z1 back still looks new after 6 months with same usage.
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So this premium Sony phone, going for approx. £400 after VAT, has a plastic back. Might as well be designed by Samsung!
BTW I actually ordered this phone; expecting delivery sometime next week.

I think plastic back is better than glass. Aluminum should be more fancy but glass, I think it's a not so good idea. Just my personal opinion
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Can someone please post this in it's own detailed thread along with the relevant evidence on the official Sony Xperia Z1 Compact forum so we can get an official response on why it changed? http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1-Compact/bd-p/Xperia_Z1_Compact?sl=y&sso_no_log=y

Well, I went ahead and made a thread about this on the official forum http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...f-plastic-and-not-glass-as/m-p/549831#U549831
I must say Im very annoyed to find out its not glass... and the sneaky way in which Sony amended the whitepaper is pretty low. Does it really affect how I view this phone? Well, I still love it... but it's certainly not good in principle, and has somewhat marred my opinion of the quality.

best case EVER

http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261257931358
it is awesome ...

Ιt's great looking on the phone but cracks and scratches easily, i'm on the third and i have the phone since September....

mihai_iulian said:
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261257931358
it is awesome ...
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Best case ever is WITH NO CASE AT ALL! Our phone is from aluminium and I bought it for that. I want to feel the cold metal and the quality fabrication. If i want to touch plastic cover, I won't buy P6 at all.
ps - mine is from Spetember too and I don't have any single scratch.

GMF80 said:
Ιt's great looking on the phone but cracks and scratches easily, i'm on the third and i have the phone since September....
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Could either of you two maybe post a pic of your P6 with that cover on?
Just want to see how it looks in normal lighting.

I had a crystal case and it was great case to use with p6. But i didnt buy the imak brand (which supposedly is scratch proof), and i had scratches on mine. A neg. aspect with the crystal case is that removing or wearing it is a bit of a trouble as it is not flexible enough and i ended up breaking mine when i extended it too wide when trying to remove the case without causing any scratch to the phone.

amonev said:
Best case ever is WITH NO CASE AT ALL! Our phone is from aluminium and I bought it for that. I want to feel the cold metal and the quality fabrication. If i want to touch plastic cover, I won't buy P6 at all.
ps - mine is from Spetember too and I don't have any single scratch.
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It's sooo funny to see some phones with case, makes them look like a BRICK!
You put case on P6 you lose that "WOW" impression from those carrying bricks

amonev said:
Best case ever is WITH NO CASE AT ALL! Our phone is from aluminium and I bought it for that. I want to feel the cold metal and the quality fabrication. If i want to touch plastic cover, I won't buy P6 at all.
ps - mine is from Spetember too and I don't have any single scratch.
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Definietly I think the same way. But I'm using original case from Huawei because it is simply good.
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[Q] Easily Scratchable ?

Is it right that the front and the back of the phone are Easily Scratchable ?

Yes especially back even if you are using plastic or gum case the dust can easily scratch back plastic cover some people replace plastic panel with temper glass
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Film/glass protector that does not get sticky/rough with time?

Hello,
I have tried some film protectors, and at first they work excellent, but after around 2-3 months of use, the screen becomes very unpleasant to interact with
It's like it gets sticky or rough, makes it feel "dirty". As soon as I put new one, it becomes again smooth. I wonder if you have noticed the same
It seems like a different phone after changing actually
Can you recommend some specific film? (I prefer it before glass, but can consider it too)
Many thanks
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Javi22 said:
Hello,
I have tried some film protectors, and at first they work excellent, but after around 2-3 months of use, the screen becomes very unpleasant to interact with
It's like it gets sticky or rough, makes it feel "dirty". As soon as I put new one, it becomes again smooth. I wonder if you have noticed the same
It seems like a different phone after changing actually
Can you recommend some specific film? (I prefer it before glass, but can consider it too)
Many thanks
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I have no experience with film protectors, but I have had the same tempered glass protector on my phone for 5 years with no problems. The glass ones are much easier to install and remove than film.

Do you clean the film? If yes, with which cleaner.
Never noticed any stickyness with my protectors whether glass, PET film or flexible film (wet applied). Although the last kind feels a bit rubbery.
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RichJo86 said:
Do you clean the film? If yes, with which cleaner.
Never noticed any stickyness with my protectors whether glass, PET film or flexible film (wet applied). Although the last kind feels a bit rubbery.
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I just clean with normal hand soap from time to time
Is there any other cleaning recommendation?
Thank you
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Should be fine. Normally I use Whoosh or some LCD cleaner. Reason I asked is because I read that alcohol affects the oleophobic coating on screens/protectors.
But maybe it is just that the coating wears off. It isn't forever. Because of the smooth feel I prefer glass. Although the plastic film protectors with glass top layer (Brotect Airglass/Dbrand Prism) are fine too.
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Javi22 said:
I just clean with normal hand soap from time to time
Is there any other cleaning recommendation?
Thank you
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I suspect the hand soap is causing your problem. Many repair shops recommend cleaning with only distilled water and a micro-fiber cloth. If necessary, add a little vinegar.

Ok understood, thank you for your answers!

Javi22 said:
Hello,
I have tried some film protectors, and at first they work excellent, but after around 2-3 months of use, the screen becomes very unpleasant to interact with
It's like it gets sticky or rough, makes it feel "dirty". As soon as I put new one, it becomes again smooth. I wonder if you have noticed the same
It seems like a different phone after changing actually
Can you recommend some specific film? (I prefer it before glass, but can consider it too)
Many thanks
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I use this stuff. It works great! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015NIXAN2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On my Pixel 3 I use a Caseology GSP and my cleaning agent of choice is Whoosh.
Just as smooth as when applied for the first time.
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I use an IQ Shield film from Amzn. It's been on my phone for 2+ years. It's excellent against fingerprints. Has a great, smooth feel. Self heals blemishes. Case friendly. Easy install. Best skin I've ever used.

Maybe you can use liquid screen protector on top of your tempered glass to restore the smooth oleophobic coating as well.