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Which model for use in the USA?

Hello,
I am quite interested in purchasing this device! I live in Washington D.C. and I was curious which model of the phone is best suited for use in America? I ask because I assume there are probably different model numbers depending on what region the phone is purchased from.
Thanks

cms062407 said:
Hello,
I am quite interested in purchasing this device! I live in Washington D.C. and I was curious which model of the phone is best suited for use in America? I ask because I assume there are probably different model numbers depending on what region the phone is purchased from.
Thanks
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SM-705MN or SM-705W
DO NOT BUY SM-705FN

JaY_III said:
SM-705MN or SM-705W
DO NOT BUY SM-705FN
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How about SM-705GM?

omnomsky said:
How about SM-705GM?
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Link to where you see it please.
I cant find an FCC cert for that model and only see it listed on Samsung India's site:
https://www.samsung.com/in/smartphones/galaxy-a70-a705g/SM-A705GZWHINS/#specs
And from what I can see, that will not work in North America
good news is I found another version that should work so that brings us to
SM-705MN
SM-A705YN
SM-705W*
* for the SM-705W I have not seen the cert myself, but going off information another posted listed on XDA

Try this website https://sim-usa.mobi/phone-compatibility-check/
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Will Samsung pay work on any of these?

Yes And No..
badrsj said:
Will Samsung pay work on any of these?
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Yes Samsung Pay Works On The A70..
But... Samsung Pay is : "Region Specific" depending on Model in a given Region. . So, choose your model carefully.

RaiderWill said:
Yes Samsung Pay Works On The A70..
But... Samsung Pay is : "Region Specific" depending on Model in a given Region. . So, choose your model carefully.
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I have the SM-705MN and i can confirm that samsung pay WILL NOT WORK here in the USA.
I was wondering if anybody had the M or W and if it worked on theirs?
And if so could we swap firmware?
or even possibly change the CSC with out flashing the firmware?

Devilmonkey27 said:
I have the SM-705MN and i can confirm that samsung pay WILL NOT WORK here in the USA.
I was wondering if anybody had the M or W and if it worked on theirs?
And if so could we swap firmware?
or even possibly change the CSC with out flashing the firmware?
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Simply Put..
There is NO WAY, NO FIRMWARE SWAP, NADA... ZIP.. That Samsung Pay will work on ANY A70 in the United States Of America.
Period..
If Google Pay does not cut if for you.. time to return / sell your device and get a S6, S7, S8, S9, S10, Note 5, Note 8, Note 9, or wait for the Note 10.. if S-Pay means that much to you.
You can buy the A50 through Sprint.. and have a working Samsung Pay MINI in the U.S.A. as an alternative..
Until I found out Google Pay works in 99% of the place I personally shop.. I was going to return my A70 and go for one of the mentioned device listed above.
I still might... there is something just not feeling right about this purchase.. Great Battery, Fingerprint is Ok for me, Face Unlock is very fast.. even in the dark, 6.7 inch screen seems to be where screens are headed, Amoled is... Amoled the best. You can't root and trip knox, and use Samsung Pay on any device.. even though there appears to be a workaround for using Google Pay.. But I'm fine not rooting with Developer's not having any interest in this device and TWRP seems like a distant dream at this point..
So, why am I just not feeling this device?.. It seems perfect on so many fronts.. but.... with Prime Day coming in a couple of weeks.. and also having thoughts of spending $270.00 more and getting the One Plus 7 Pro.. I just don't know what it is about the A70 for me.. but something is missing at this price point..
Maybe the rumored A507 and A707 ( A50 and A70 ) updated models which are due out later this year will get sold through U.S. carriers or get offered by Samsung directly in the U.S.A. but I'm sure those will be Late 2019 releases. But if they do get released in the U.S. at least the A70 would have Samsung Pay support out of the box.

Sorry to bump an old thread, but just to be clear, the best model for use in the USA would be the SM-A705W (the Canadian model)?

leotakacs said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but just to be clear, the best model for use in the USA would be the SM-A705W (the Canadian model)?
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The SM-A705MN/DS is the best for use in the US.

Do all A50 model variants have NFC or just the devices with "N" in the model No?

Do all A50 model variants have NFC or just the devices with "N" in the model No?
Trying to piece together the info on which A50 models with which firmware variants support Google Pay and Samsung Pay. For instance there's a SM-A505G and a SM-A505GN, a SM-A505F and a SM-A505FN. I was under the impression that the "N" in the model number meant the device has NFC and devices without the "N" do not?

Yes

madd0g said:
Yes
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Is there any definitive way to know which firmwares on which models support samsung pay, or which LTE bands are supported on which models? There's SAMMOBILE, but it doesn't have all A50 models listed and not sure if the LTE info is correct on there or not.

A505W supports NFC
The Canadian version A505W does support NFC. I am using one right now.

wolfy said:
The Canadian version A505W does support NFC. I am using one right now.
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No dual SIM on that one though right? Does Samsung Pay and Visual Voicemail work on your A50?

I don't think the N in the model numbers corresponds with having NFC or not. The last 5 characters of the model have something to do with the region and country.

Any mid range phone that doesn't have NFC these days should be a crime

cordi_b said:
No dual SIM on that one though right? Does Samsung Pay and Visual Voicemail work on your A50?
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No dual sim, Samsung pay works.
My service provider doesn't use visual voicemail so I can't comment on that.

Just learned that my new A505-F / DS does NOT have NFC. I was setting up GPay and says it does not support it. Doing a search, seems that the FN does.

Also FM model have an NFC (+MTP for magnetic stripe card emulation).

cordi_b said:
Trying to piece together the info on which A50 models with which firmware variants support Google Pay and Samsung Pay. For instance there's a SM-A505G and a SM-A505GN, a SM-A505F and a SM-A505FN. I was under the impression that the "N" in the model number meant the device has NFC and devices without the "N" do not?
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There is a NFC chip in Samsung A50. The part number is GH42-06264A . So, even though the model number is same, they may manufacture with or without the hardware. If the hardware is there, they may have disabled it. For ex: All Non-US Mobile phone manufacturers were asked to disable NFC chip by the US government.
Also, You need DRM keys to enable the hardware. As far as I know, there are no such keys released by Samsung

Unlocked US or wait for International unlocked?

Hi all
In the past I’ve had to buy international variants for the best possible coverage when traveling. Even the US unlocked did not cover as much as their international unlocked counterparts.
I spend a lot of my time overseas so I’m willing to have less then ideal coverage in the united states.
I’ve tried to look up information on the bands but so far have not had much look comparing to see if I should preorder the s20 ultra unlocked in the states or just wait until I go abroad and purchase the international version in a few months when I leave again. Even if I don’t get the deals on preorder.
Which would really be a downer if there isn’t a difference and I could buy it now with all the perks of the promos.
Can anyone enlighten me on if the unlocked US version or international unlocked variant would be more suited to travel outside the States?
Or is their a difference this time?
Thanks!

I have this same question, but here is my dilemma....
The US version work have a snapdragon and a $200 credit at samsung's website for pre-orders but the international version with have the ability to be rooted. Now i have the oneplus 7 pro, with root, i am able to force 90hz refresh rate on ALL apps. If i can root the s20 ultra, i can swap in a kernel that allows 120hz at qhd on alll apps, which is pure gold in itself.

the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds

I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?

XtremeMaC said:
I'm in the same boat. My current GS8+ is international variant specifically because of dual sim and root.
I'm conflicted with all the international versions not getting things like 5G vs international. I pre-ordered, I still can cancel my order...
What's the likelihood that US Unlocked version can be rooted within few months? Anyone know if they're adding additional locks to it?
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It is my understanding that traditionally, US unlocked version is SiM unlocked but bootloader locked. Therefore, the likelyhood that it will be rootable in a few months will be the same as with other recent phones, next to zero.
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yeah, that's what I'm afraid of..

In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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Viper4android!

very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot

johnwayne27 said:
In thos age of hacking and malware. You couldnt pay me to have a rooted phone. The only advantage was titanium backup and that only half ass works when restoring data. Not worth it.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But hey. Your choice.

Ricardo_G said:
very hard choice
- Snapdragon 865 is more power efficient and more powerful ( 10 % against exynos SOC)
but forget root
- Outside US 5G networks aver very very limited
- The exynos will receive more updates
- US version has only one card sim slot
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5G is all over Europe.

force70 said:
the Kong kong and Latina american variants historically have been snapdragon AND rootable so you can have the better processor wnd root.
that said there has also not been a ton of development for those particular variants which i mever understood since your getting the best of both worlds
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suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do

From what I have seen there are also various versions of the international unlocked, some are dual sim and some ha e different bands (with or without 5G).

masri1987 said:
suppp force
so i'm struggling with the choice too, either the SA (latin american snapdragon) or exynos .
I don't really care about development beyond TWRP and Root , not sure what to do
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long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.

force70 said:
long time no talk bro, hope all is well?
the snap would be my choice,it will be rootable, could be already for all i know. plus the 865 is far superior to the exynos is pretty much every category.
for me the choice would be easy lol.
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which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus

masri1987 said:
which model #'s should i be trying to get?
I'm asuming SA is south american models with S865
When's the last time we crossed paths? It wasn't 3xl was it?
Hope you staying safe from teh cabrona virus
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the Hong kong and brazil model number is just SM-G9880. no N,W Or anything else. but they both would be 865s yep.
couldnt have been the 3XL cause i didnt get one, def been awhile though. Im not on as much as I used to be...too many snowflakes lol.
Corona virus has everything shut down here in Ontario, Canada. movies, restaurants, gyms (that one hits hard with me being a bodybuilder).
its crazy.

what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android

yes it should be its exynos.
Korean/ international basically the same thing hardware other than possibly being capable of different network frequencies.
you cannot cross flash Korean and international firmware however if that matters
ive had lots of both and never had issues with either.
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what about the "N" Korean version? is it rootable? im debating whether to get the international one or the korean version. I want to be rooted with viper4android
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This may help you decide.
https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/3...-americas-first-unlocked-all-carrier-5g-phone

Im on att. What i wont be able to use the 5g network if i get an international verion. I might get the us verison then

Need Clarifications on this mess of Model Numbers & eSIM

So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?) Snapdragon confirmedOnly one IMEI
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me

SAO said:
So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?)
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
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They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.

VZTech said:
They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
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Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?

SAO said:
Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
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It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.

VZTech said:
It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
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Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.

SAO said:
Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
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That one is dual sim, so it will work out of the box

No eSIM
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.

Portair75 said:
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
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wrong
Search for eSIM... but it says "Global Variant"... so i guess the US models won't have them.
This is all very confusing.

I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.

Portair75 said:
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
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Well it's written on their global site :
View attachment 4960021

SAO said:
Well it's written on their global site :
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Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.

Portair75 said:
Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
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Thus my thread... things are not clear.

So which ones have physical dual-sim? Does US model supports 2 nano-sim?

Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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johnwayne27 said:
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim

hoppy_barzed said:
Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
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There are Snapdragon versions with dual SIM.
Usually it's the Hong Kong version.

Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.

eyeatoma said:
Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models

_Dennis_ said:
Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Sorry can you explain what you mean by efuse?
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Apple has had dual radio capability since the XS. (2018)
Kind of ridiculous we don't have it in USA with Samsung. Dual SIM is great, no more toting around two (or more) phones. In the past when they were SMALL it wasn't a problem but pushing 7" screen size, it's an issue. Fortunately my Grip6 belt can handle it!

Galaxy S20 Plus 5G with Snapdragon in Europe

I need help understanding all the differences between the various S20 Plus 5G versions. I live in Italy and I want to buy the Snapdragon international unlocked but I miss some points in using an international version here where we can only find the Exynos one.
Speaking about the various names, so far I understood
Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM:
SM-G986U - Factory Unlocked from US
SM-G986N - South Korea (?)a lot of bloatware and a custom intro animation, so not the original and "pure" Android version(?)
SM-G9860, SM-G9868 - China, Hong Kong, Japan, Brazil
I've found a good price for the SM-G986N in a European store but I'm missing some details:
My phone will update as soon as the update is rolled out in Korea? And then about the bloatware, easily removable to make the phone lighter and snappier? Regarding this I was wondering if I can flash the US firmware or is it impossible due to hardware differences between the SM-G986N and the SM-G986U? I really miss this point, if there only are software-related differences between devices with the same CPU or also hardware ones.
I've found sometimes the US version in some stores but there were crazy prices or very limited availability.
Which version would you guys suggest me to go for? Thanks in advance for any answer.
EDIT #1 after chieco's answer: rootable phone isn't a priority

you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.

chieco said:
you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!

ianeze46 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!
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SM-G9860 will get OTA Updates regardless of your Service Provider, it's Dual-SIM unlike South Korean Variant, it's less expensive than the SM-G986N or SM-G986U and it's as close as you'll get to a pure Android Device when compared to any other Samsung offerings. The only real disadvantages are it may not be 5G Compatible depending on your Service Provider and Warrant Repairs typically aren't handled by the seller unless you buy it directly from Samsung.

SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.
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I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
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Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?

ianeze46 said:
I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
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I'm not sure about Samsung Pay.
I've read some stories (can't recall on which forum) from European users who confirmed that Samsung Pay works fine on their Snapdragon S20.
I'm not using it myself so cannot confirm.
I can confirm though that the other features that you're mentioning work perfectly.
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Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?
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I imported from HongKong via Wondamobile.com.
I can recommend this shop. They're very fast in shipping out the phone (took about a week to arrive), you don't pay any customs fees and they are very helpful in answering any questions you have.
The only thing I recommend to buy yourself if you order from Hongkong is a wallcharger that is compatible with the powersockets in your country.

Samsung Pay does work, you're only getting Hong Hong ads.