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Hi guys
I'll try to make this short. I lost my Redmi Note 5 Pro (which I loved) and now I need a new phone. I stumbled upon the Honor 7x while searching for an alternative. You should know that I never bought a Huawei phone, I only used high end devices from Samsung, OP, LG and recently been using Xiaomi phones. I had a very bad experience with the Redmi Note 4 with its MTK SoC, since I LOVE flashing custom ROMs and doing all sort of new stuff with my device (rooting, xposed, theming..etc).
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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Omg I love the Asus zenfone max pro! It seems such a great device for the price of less than 200$. But I can't seem to find it anywhere aside from flipkart or ebay (overpriced). I'm not an indian so I can't order it from flipkart. Do you know if it will be sold in the future on aliexpress or another international website?
OnePlus is the way to go. Get the 5T or the 6, both are very fine devices. Heck, even the OP3 (and 3T) are still good today.
If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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I'm not sure if sources are available, but Huawei is normally pretty good at releasing such things.
According to this URL: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/open...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
If you search 'BND', you'll see "7X,BND,EMUI5.1,Android7.0"
What I meant originally was, the Honor 7X is an INCREDIBLE phone at an incredible price, lots of customization/tweaking options. I personally have lineage OS beta 4 installed.
To answer some of your questions:
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
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1. I'm not a developer so I don't know, there are only a handful of custom OS you can download ATM.
2. Huawei provides you with a bootloader code to easily unlock the bootloader.
3. The trick with TWRP is you need to beable to install a TWRP that does decryption. Reason being is the Honor 7x, I don't know if its the entire phone.. it probably is... but I know for a fact some parts are encrypted, and you can't make a TWRP backup unless your TWRP can handle decryption. I tried to install a TWRP with decryption thats suppose to work for our phone, but I got some kind of error (I didn't write it down, but the error basically meant that it didn't work). The TWRP with decryption thats available was made for another Huawei phone thats suppose to work for the 7x. One thing you could try, would be to decrypt the phone, and then see if you can make a TWRP backup. Theres a few ways to do that: 1. TWRP>Format Data. 2. fastboot erase userdata 3. Theres probably a GUI way to do it in Settings>Security&Privacy>Encryption&Credentials>Encrypt Phone.
4. Battery life, Its way better than the Honor 5x. I haven't had my phone for very long, so I can't tell you the real world battery results. My battery menu says I have 7 days left of battery if that tells you anything. My Honor 5x got 4 days max, and this phone I know beats it... so my estimate is 5 days of battery for my usage. I'm pretty sure that Oreo has made improvements as far as battery. I looked at catlog in realtime, there wasn't hardly any activity going on unless you did something. On my Honor 5x there was always activity going on regardless.
5. I haven't played any games yet, So I don't know about SOC temps while under load. I've read on other posts that Kirin SOCS temps are good. Right now mines sitting at 29 celcius, which is excellent!
6. On official ROM, I only played with it for a short while, it seemed smooth. Now its not as smooth as iPhone, but I felt like it was just about as smooth as an android is gonna get.
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.
100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
Just wait for MI A2.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway
From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.
Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.
Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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I love MIUI but If any kind of Xiaomi phone with pure Android would have best dev support, best roms, much mor roms than I want to get that phone.
I forgot to mention that I hunt for from low to mid budget phones. POCO can be bought by me i it turns out that he wins my criterua,
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
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4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
YasuHamed said:
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
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1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
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1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
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1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
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1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
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1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
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1. to give him fair picture I honestly thought its worth mentioning since i haven't found any other modern days rom having switch keyboard panel NOT part of navbar accept in MIUI
2. its covered in 1 only.
3. gcam on miui doesn't work fully only sept2016 version ran (and didnt crash)
4 again, if by any chance the phone is bricked, i cannot press both volume and power keys to enter in EDL mode (like in Redmi3s)
you asked for good phone with nice battery , so i mentioned Nokia 8, and yes sorry about sd845, its sd835 with 6gbram and 5.3"screen with hardkeys, so u are getting full 5.3" to work with. THe bezels aren't that much they way you have metioned
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
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Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
androidbadboy said:
Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
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sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
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the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
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sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
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In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
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In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
fadgry said:
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
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Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
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yes means that 3D touch in S8 gets me only 2 types of things (remove icon or uninstall)?
What happens if on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / pro I touch and hold an icon just like in S8 I wrote before?
androidbadboy said:
Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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I know it is a huge cash difference since I personally buy RN5 instead of Poco haha. But yeah people really looking for Poco here and they will pay another 150 USD for it.
What about RN5? After 2 weeks using it I don't face any problem. People said they got a or b or c problems, and I would confuse as I didn't get it. Since I'm a hard gamer too, it is crucial to look for performance and it is satisfying.
Both phone are good and has really active forums, it is your choice after all to buy the phone. Hope you get the best which suits your need.
Hello guys
Sorry for the long question.
I am very confused these days, i sold Redmi Note 7 some days ago but now i don't understand that what device is perfect for me in my low budget. I have some devices in my mind:
1. Pocophone F1
2. Realme 3 Pro
3. OnePlus 5T
What i need:
I really like to install different roms on my deivce, occasionally gaming and most of the time watching movies etc.
Why i am not able to decide ?
1. Pocophone F1
Big notch taking over 70% of status bar. Heard / saw different threads claiming that the devices has touch screen / hardware issues.
2. Realme 3 Pro
Realme 5 Pro also available around the world but not in Pakistan. In Pakistan only option so far is Realme 3 Pro. Overall phone seems to be a good deal. But there is no Android development.
3. OnePlus 5T
This device is my most favorite device. Do you guys recommend me to buy 5T in 2019? and i also want to now, that is there any common hardware related issues to check for before buying?
Looking for response from you guys.
Plenty of ROM support and easy methodology to tamper, if you aren't a fan of OOS which is quite good anyway. Updates are still being released quite frequently through the beta.
Bought mine on release, coming up on 2 years ago now. Only complaints I have hardware wise:
-charging port can be finicky, but I need to clean it.
-camera is very average (but GCam mod with root + camera library dot fix performs very well)
I don't see myself getting a different phone for at LEAST another year and a bit. Take of that what you will.
I bought oneplus 5t 2 weeks a ago and i would say buy the damn phone you won't regret it, previously i was using samsung a50 but was not satisfied with the performance, oneplus 5t is blazing fast, go for it
Good phone but two things that suck
Vibration motor is horrible. It's so weak that I can't even hear it most of the time
Camera quality out of the box is just average
This two things didn't seem to be important to me in the past but you do notice the difference after using the phone for 2 years
In my opinion 5T is still beast but official beta support had dropped
Not that much custom ROMs available (many maintainers and developers switched to op6 or higher models)
Better try to buy op6or6T
Although open beta has been stripped for the 5t I'm still more than happy with my 5t. I even prefer OOS over the custom ROMs because it's really fast, stable and the gesture control kicks ass and is way better than that Google thing. Plus have in mind that OP already confirmed Android q. It may take a while but for now OP is still going strong with security patches. As long the battery is fine so am I.
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The Pocophone has larger battery and an IR scanner which is amazing for face recognition. But the screen is not good as 5T's.
Oxygen OS is probably the best out there. It is light and so fast and allows so many customizations. I bet you won't be bothered with custom ROMs!
Snapdragons 835 and 845 don't differ much either.
I'd go for the 5T if I found both at similar price.
Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?
Rares6567 said:
Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?
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next year
by the time it becomes next year, sd870 will only be good enough for candy crush
no bugs here, im pretty happy with the phone
only issue is the virtual proximity sensor, i used to cringe at first but then i got used to it
I'm pretty happy with my Poco F3. I installed a Custom ROM on it, but MIUI is also good.
The phone itself, yeah.. everything's cool. The camera is decent for me. Display awesome, 120 Hz OLED. Performance is excellent.
Battery.. depends on your OS, your apps etc, software-stuff ^^ but software-stuff can always be changed.
But MIUI isn't bad in terms of battery, it's normal.
Sound is very nice, especially with Dolby Atmos. You have 2 speakers, so stereo..
Yeah, no issues for me ^^
Also I don't think Poco F3 is "useless" next year. You will still be able to play demanding games, like Genshin Impact etc..
Only being able to play Candy Crush next year, that's a gross overstatement. The Snapdrapon 865+ can do much more than that, I'll tell you that. ^^
I play PlayStation 2 games on my phone. sm00th like butter
and if the price is right, next year. sure you can go for it. But keep Official OS-updates in mind, because Xiaomi will only provide updates for a certain period - At some point they will say: We don't provide OS-updates anymore for Poco F3, but then you can still get Updates through Custom ROMs.
Also keep other phone models in mind next year, maybe a better phone for same price next year? who knows.
Thanks for helping. I did a mistake, when I said next year I mean next month ( January *2023*)
Yup worth considering!
Altho, if I would buy a phone today, I would get a phone with a 5000 mAh battery instead of 4500 mAh, and maybe slightly slower processor, because I find myself not really using the Horse-power of Snapdragon 865+ very much... (yes I play a few games, but not much)
So I would trade bigger battery for slightly slower processor.
But that's just me. If you are a gamer, Poco F3 is excellent.
*However* Poco F3 has excellent Custom ROM-support, there are lots of very stable Android 13 Custom ROMs available.
Other phones may not have as many Custom ROMs available, it all depends on the popularity of the phone. And Poco F3 is very popular. And for best Custom ROM-support, better to get Qualcomm instead of Mediatek.
cyanGalaxy said:
Yup worth considering!
Altho, if I would buy a phone today, I would get a phone with a 5000 mAh battery instead of 4500 mAh, and maybe slightly slower processor, because I find myself not really using the Horse-power of Snapdragon 865+ very much... (yes I play a few games, but not much)
So I would trade bigger battery for slightly slower processor.
But that's just me. If you are a gamer, Poco F3 is excellent.
*However* Poco F3 has excellent Custom ROM-support, there are lots of very stable Android 13 Custom ROMs available.
Other phones may not have as many Custom ROMs available, it all depends on the popularity of the phone. And Poco F3 is very popular. And for best Custom ROM-support, better to get Qualcomm instead of Mediatek.
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What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps
Rares6567 said:
What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps
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Somewhere next year Poco F3 will get the last android update and after that about a year of security patches (every 3 months). Personal I wouldn't pick it if you plan to use stock ROM and value updates unless custom ROM is an option.
Custom ROM wise in my opinion it's a very good choice. LineageOS has at the time 3 maintainers for this device (as the only Xiaomi device). I expect the support to last at least a little. IMHO its really difficult to brick the device if you follow the installation manual to the letter.
Compared to Poco X3 pro I really enjoy the AMOLED that keeps the screen very readable in sunlight. I also like the colours and the dark mode but that's subjective.
From my experience Poco F3 tends to last on battery similarly to Poco X3 pro (which has 5.1 k mAh battery) in daily usage, possibly thanks to the amoled screen. Standby will be longer on the poco x3 pro though.
Performance wise its definitely a much better choice compared to pixel 6a that has tensor which is just much less energy efficient and has unstable performance during games.
Rares6567 said:
Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?
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Poco F3 will be updating for a few more months by Xiaomi and I'll try to aggregate my best guess on it.
As far I remember from some Xiaomi's statement the Poco F3 will receive two full Android upgrades and four main MIUI also. Then Android 11 => 12 and 13 & MIUI 12 => 12.5, 13, 14 and 15.
If I'm right the F3 will be part of .DEV flavour until Q2/Q3 2023 (2 years) and then will receive the last MIUI 15 Stable build based on Android 13 with some occasional security updates by Xiaomi. Probably every 3 months.
wait for the poco F-27z seriously
870 888 8G1 8G1+ 8G2
870 is like 5 generation old now
if it were up to me i would get the 8G2, or atleast an 8G1 or the latest generation 7xxG if im on a budget
heybaybee said:
Somewhere next year Poco F3 will get the last android update and after that about a year of security patches (every 3 months). Personal I wouldn't pick it if you plan to use stock ROM and value updates unless custom ROM is an option.
Custom ROM wise in my opinion it's a very good choice. LineageOS has at the time 3 maintainers for this device (as the only Xiaomi device). I expect the support to last at least a little. IMHO its really difficult to brick the device if you follow the installation manual to the letter.
Compared to Poco X3 pro I really enjoy the AMOLED that keeps the screen very readable in sunlight. I also like the colours and the dark mode but that's subjective.
From my experience Poco F3 tends to last on battery similarly to Poco X3 pro (which has 5.1 k mAh battery) in daily usage, possibly thanks to the amoled screen. Standby will be longer on the poco x3 pro though.
Performance wise its definitely a much better choice compared to pixel 6a that has tensor which is just much less energy efficient and has unstable performance during games.
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Thanks. I guess I will buy a 10T pro
Rares6567 said:
What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps
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Pixels have good camera, but the rest of the specs are mediocre for their price.
I hardbricked my Poco F3 once, but got it restored. I could perhaps help you get your hardbricked Xiaomi back to life, if you still have it.
About good battery & performance... I would pick something from Xiaomi again maybe, because they offer good hardware at cheap price (I don't like the brand but the hardware is good.)
I would probably pick some Redmi or Poco phone, but with 5000 mAh, and Snapdragon-processor. ^^
But.. Poco F3 *is* good, I can tell you that. I'm happy and I will keep my F3 for some years.
If my battery dies at some point, I can easily replace it, because I took my phone apart once already
cyanGalaxy said:
Pixels have good camera, but the rest of the specs are mediocre for their price.
I hardbricked my Poco F3 once, but got it restored. I could perhaps help you get your hardbricked Xiaomi back to life, if you still have it.
About good battery & performance... I would pick something from Xiaomi again maybe, because they offer good hardware at cheap price (I don't like the brand but the hardware is good.)
I would probably pick some Redmi or Poco phone, but with 5000 mAh, and Snapdragon-processor. ^^
But.. Poco F3 *is* good, I can tell you that. I'm happy and I will keep my F3 for some years.
If my battery dies at some point, I can easily replace it, because I took my phone apart once already
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Yea thanks, I think I will buy a Mi 10T Pro or simple
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Yea thanks, I think I will buy a Mi 10T Pro or simple
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Hi,
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days, I do miss wireless charging and a SD Card slot like my old LG G7 but you can't compare a Flagship to a mid/budget phone.
I got a great deal here in the UK, £50 off + 2 years Warranty, I`m not a fan of MIUI because i use a Samsung smartwatch as a trusted device but Miui only support xiaomi devices.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi73Piwo-37AhWUre0KHbuiBLsYABAIGgJkZw&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbeD2xFPsiN4CLDsOMHJZuzbQVY0-rj-W1nqPQW3hLf9j5EI5ypwevdigfq24ibjmn6pTTPG_yhuHczmoNd7Oqt5xqIDtQYw2dZ6HjjH_vUJcY64FO1kmD_T6k5dVPP6opGULYqYpXjjPec2xKec&sig=AOD64_0xi3K3HBFIOyIih31mns8mKWITng&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi8m-uwo-37AhUQhFwKHc17C7UQ9aACKAB6BAgGI looked long and hard before i chose the F3, i wanted good value with great custom rom support, i couldn't be happier.
In life, it`s not about saving money it`s about getting best value for your money, unless money is not a issue.
I hope you make the right choice for you
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days, I do miss wireless charging and a SD Card slot like my old LG G7 but you can't compare a Flagship to a mid/budget phone.
I got a great deal here in the UK, £50 off + 2 years Warranty, I`m not a fan of MIUI because i use a Samsung smartwatch as a trusted device but Miui only support xiaomi devices.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi73Piwo-37AhWUre0KHbuiBLsYABAIGgJkZw&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbeD2xFPsiN4CLDsOMHJZuzbQVY0-rj-W1nqPQW3hLf9j5EI5ypwevdigfq24ibjmn6pTTPG_yhuHczmoNd7Oqt5xqIDtQYw2dZ6HjjH_vUJcY64FO1kmD_T6k5dVPP6opGULYqYpXjjPec2xKec&sig=AOD64_0xi3K3HBFIOyIih31mns8mKWITng&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi8m-uwo-37AhUQhFwKHc17C7UQ9aACKAB6BAgGI looked long and hard before i chose the F3, i wanted good value with great custom rom support, i couldn't be happier.
In life, it`s not about saving money it`s about getting best value for your money, unless money is not a issue.
I hope you make the right choice for you
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Yes thanks for your opinion
3zozHashim said:
870 888 8G1 8G1+ 8G2
870 is like 5 generation old now
if it were up to me i would get the 8G2, or atleast an 8G1 or the latest generation 7xxG if im on a budget
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I'd dare to suggest to get at least 8G1+ or 8G2 as 888 and 8G1 are less energy efficient than the 870. They're only better in benchmarks testing temporary peak performance and they use much more energy for it.
In terms of energy efficiency:
8G1 < 888 < 870 < 8G1+ < 8G2
heybaybee said:
I'd dare to suggest to get at least 8G1+ or 8G2 as 888 and 8G1 are less energy efficient than the 870. They're only better in benchmarks testing temporary peak performance and they use much more energy for it.
In terms of energy efficiency:
8G1 < 888 < 870 < 8G1+ < 8G2
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Ok thanks!
I have the Poco F3 for almost a year now. I'm also very happy with it. As john64 said:
johnr64 said:
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days [...]
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I also feel the same. The lack of a true Proximity sensor is weird at best, but given the other benefits the F3 brings to the table (price, reliability, strong dev community, fast cpu/gpu), it's an acceptable trade-off.
All in all, it's a great phone, still worth its value.
henriquemaia said:
I have the Poco F3 for almost a year now. I'm also very happy with it. As john64 said:
I also feel the same. The lack of a true Proximity sensor is weird at best, but given the other benefits the F3 brings to the table (price, reliability, strong dev community, fast cpu/gpu), it's an acceptable trade-off.
All in all, it's a great phone, still worth its value.
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Thanks for your opinion, this helps me so much!