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Hi guys
Looking to upgrade from my Galaxy S4 i9500 which has been loyal to me for the past 2 years. I work in IT so I get to do lot of mobile work on my phone. Looking for a phone with a larger screen 5.5-5.8 for a budget of up to $550.
Looking at the specs`of all the recently released devices, the LG G4 stands strong and the price is great ($430 new on eBay). I don't really care for a finger print sensor. Maybe in a week after the release of V10 or G4 Pro, the price will drop even more.
so if you were me at this point of time, would you buy the LG G4 again? Go for a different device?
peace!
tom
I bought it recently It is great
The only phones I can compare to the G4 -for me- are:
*Moto X-Style for its metal body, front facing camera flash light, stock android experience, cool Motorola Gestures, out of the box quick charger (Quick Charging 34% in 15 min), 52 score in water and dust resistance (however some youtube videos showed G4 resisting water too but nothing official), front facing speakers with a nice camera score Dxomark. However, you may need to watch comparisons between it and G4 to tell which you would prefer, I am still loving the G4 manual mode..
also I think Moto X-Style will get better custom roms support than G4 specially other models than 815.
*and Nexus 6P for its metal body, Greater camera score in Dxomark site !! no comparisons available yet with G4 !! fingerprint sensor, Google fast and direct updates, front facing speakers and bigger battery but no sdcard, and it will have much more custom roms than the other 2 phones..
In case you went for any of them, you will miss the Pedometer, IR blaster, Quick Circle case view and Manual Shutter speed in the G4
Hi M7mdA7md7sein
Thank you very much for your detailed answer, the 2 alternative devices you have mentioned are exactly the 2 I was considering!
I think that your answer and my research has led me toward the N6p.
Thanks a bunch!
My previous was S4 as well.
Just got mine yesterday. So far, so good.
I was between G4 and Moto X Style. Since I got G4 for much less, I went for it.
Basically, I was all the way to X Style, but camera. I use camera a lot, and G4's camera is cool. Still learning though (auto gave me some bad pics in low light).
That's it. As already written, my concern is about ROMs /root / community support, but it's too soon to tell everything about it (for me).
I'd stay far away from this phone, especially if you are heavy into the modding scene. I bought mine at launch and it has been nothing but a headache for me, but I have plenty of phones to compare it to, so based upon my usage, this will be my first phone to sell as soon as that time comes. For the price, you could spend a little bit more and get a phone with a hell of a lot more dev support and a better overall build quality. This is one of the very few phones that still has the microsd slot and a battery that can be changed, but with today's technology that is no longer a necessity for me anymore. I am on my 2nd unit and I have had nothing but issues. There are plenty of people that love this phone, but for me, this stays on my desk more than my calculator does... If these features are what you need on a phone then go right ahead, but I just thought I would add my opinion because not everyone is happy with this device. Take a look around the forums and I do believe this is what you will see, and not a whole lot more...
Hi Tom,
I have owned the G4 since mid July and I still think it is brilliant. My only wish would be for a nice easy root path. I continue to run the device completely stock and haven't done anything to it at all. In the end my phone is a work horse before it is a toy.
I wrote a review of this phone back at the end of July - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-review-t3167563 which I have just re-read and I still agree with what I wrote. Since then the leather back of my phone how shows a few marks but has held up well over all. Mostly I have a darkening and polishing of the corners which correspond to how I hold the phone when playing games or surfing the web.
Back Plate https://goo.gl/photos/6eQtwh6jSqJUFdKj6
Corner https://goo.gl/photos/athTYeZuLNeC1PYBA
I think what sums it up though is my wife wants a phone with a better camera than what she has currently and I am seriously thinking about recommending the g4.
Ps photos were taken with the G4
You are welcome
Glad to help ) Hope you will enjoy this phone
The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
I'm waiting too.
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The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
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Thanks for the tip. I'll heed your advice.
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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All metal? Ha! I'm glad I resisted and didn't buy this. After watching these, I would have been unhappy. Thanks.
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i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Wow! Hopefully the HTC 10 will be better.
Me too
codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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That tear down video is a plus for me. The phone is easy to repair! The only criticism he makes is the "lack of premium feel". Personally that is way down on my list of concerns. I am not looking to impress anyone with how great my phone looks and I doubt anyone gives a damn anyway. I look for the features I want first and foremost. I have to admit I was not happy with how thin the glass over the screen is on the other video. That does kind off suck but I don't think it is a deal breaker for me.
I have a G5 arriving tomorrow. The camera and the replaceabe battery are what sold me. The free extra battery and charge case and the free 360 degree camera made me jump on it. I will miss the wireless charging now I am accustomed to it and have charge plates sitting everywhere! I only wonder if I should hold off opening the box until I can find out more about the HTC 10 after it is released on the 12th. I
I believe LG is on to something-- a modular phone has been my geek dream since the birth of smartphones! However, I don't think the first generation "beta" of this feature is going to be where it's at. There are a couple WOW mods (Battery and camera) that are simply awesome, but otherwise this first iteration is just a really nice albeit average phone with some snap-in "meh."
If the M10 fails to impress, the G5 is probably what I'm going to get. I didn't pre-order the G5, so I won't be getting the package either way.
I pre-ordered the G5 as I wasn't convinced of the HTC 2016 flagship a month ago.
However my pre-order for the G5 has now been delayed to the 22nd April and as a result I've been following the build up and now really liking the look of the HTC 10.
If it has a 5.1 inch or bigger LCD (not AMOLED), SD 820, 4GB RAM, I think I'll cancel my G5 and get this. I'd want the black face though, either with silver back or black back, I don't like the white fronted version in the leaks....
Time will tell tomorrow.
The G5 is a flop. Most of the reviews say it's half baked and pretty lackluster. The only good thing anyone has to say about it is that the camera is good.
I am currently using the S7 Edge but I have one more Jump until June. (I am on T-Mobile's Jump on Demand program which gives me 3 upgrades a year). I was going to maybe move to the G5 or the HTC 10 since I wasn't all that impressed with the S7E. After the major update T-Mobile pushed out for the S7E last week, my mind changed and I am now extremely impressed with the S7E. The battery lasts forever and the touchscreen is no longer overly sensitive.
That being said, I will wait to see what the HTC 10 brings. I love the look of the phone and I like Sense more than TW. The only thing I wish it had was a larger display but I can live with 5.2".
At the end of the day, the G5 is already crossed off the list. I played around with one in the store and was totally unimpressed. It felt like crap in my hand. The chamfered edges are too sharp and feel uncomfortable while I'm gaming in horizontal view. The display is also very average. Not impressed one bit. I wouldn't call it bad but it wasn't what I'd expect from LG. When it comes to looks, I know it comes down to personal preference but damn the G5 us fugly. When you hold a S7E next to it, you can just see that the S7E is on a whole nother level when it comes to sleekness. Everything wasn't bad for the G5 though. The UI felt snappy and I didn't notice and lag/jitters.
I like the look and feel of the G5. I think all the phones pretty much look the same and I really don't care that much about it anyone. I don't think anyone is getting laid because their phone is so impressive. I have been wanting a wide angle shooter on a phone for years...awesome! I have always carried spare batteries. I can always go from 10% to 100% in seconds.....also awesome!
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LG g5 is DOA. I'm returning mine. Better competition. The build quality alone isn't very good as that gap between the module and Chassis is frustrating. Moreover, the camera isn't as good as the S7 Edge.
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I've cancelled my g5 order. It getting delayed was definitely meant to be as I've ordered the htc 10 for only £13 more
After seeing the HTC 10 today it's looking very promising. Much better than the G5.
What do you mean by better? The finish and feel might be slicker but that is not my main concern. I will miss the wireless charging on my S3 but the 10 doesn't have that either. The replaceable battery and wide angle shooter are what makes me want the G5. No matter how great the phone looks it ain't much good if the battery craps out on you at 2AM and you are not at home! Zero to 100% in seconds will always be a winner for me. I always carry a spare battery. No matter how strong the battery life of the S7 is it will not be as good in a year! The fee charge cradle, spare battery, and 360 camera cinched it for me (I see the T-mo offer on the 360 cam had been extended so you can still get it).
Did you see the breakdown review on juryrigeverythind.com (I think that is it)? The G5 will be very easy to repair. That makes up for a little sloppiness in built to me, as long as everything works ok from the start. I think they all look like cell phones. If you want to look cool get some new clothes, nobody is looking at your phone and judging you on it!
None of the reviews fault the G5 on performance, it is a beast. Most of the reviewers discount the friends module aspect of the phone because there are not many now and it is questionable what will develop. Still, the idea that I might get surprised with some cool new module feature is a plus for me. Who doesn't get a little bored with the phone after a couple years? I think the G5 is getting unfair treatment by a lot of reviewers.
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The big cross against G5 is the locked (or unlocked custom as seen on Tmobile variant) bootloader. That's a big one for me. I was looking at G5 and gave up on it because of that.
As for battery, I just carry a 10k slab and charge up my phone using that if I am not next to a wall or laptop or pc. Who wants to reboot the phone for a replaceable battery! So, I will likely not use that unique feature of G5 ever.
Going to wait and see what this feels like in hand, coming from 5.5 and up phones I don't want this to feel tiny in my hands.
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I've had my G5 for 2 days now. Build is good- the modular piece seams nicely, feels good in hand. Tested for light bleed- minimal bleed on top and only noticeable in darkened room with test app, very accceptable. I read about someone having a proble with the audio jack- mine is very tight. Someone said they had hissing sound with BT- mine is great with my jawbone and my car unit. Battery time is ok, maybe not great, I tend to be a heavy user. Quick charge is very fast, about 1% per minute. I look forward to receiving the spare battery, unlike previous poster I do not mind rebooting my phone, especially if I can go from 15% ot 100% in 30 seconds! Camera is very good, lover the wide angle. It seems that the metering only has center weight and matrix which disappoints but I may not be understanding the interface, need to find a manual, phone only comes with a quick start guide so I guess I can download from LG. Overall I am very happy. Can't wait to play around with promo 360 camera when it arrives!
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 3, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 3 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Looks and feels just right. Has all the essential ingredients of a very good device - nice display, Camera and fast!
I named mine cold Betty. She's cold to the touch, but her love is so warm.
I like so much OnePlus 3 and it really gives me awesome feel, and I fall in true love with it. When I am take it in my hand I am just fits in perfectly in my palms.
I have so many gorgeous protective cases.
OnePlus 3 like to me on first sight for so much but beautiful stuff.
It is a pity that the rear camera of OnePlus is protruding, though it uses 16MP lens IMX298 from Sony.
OnePlus 3 smartphone supports dual sim card dual standby.
OnePlus also gifts me one more VR Headset. Before announcing OnePlus 3 smartphone And this VR Headset is not made by OnePlus either, instead by AntVR.
And have very good battery and features fast charging technology.
Its a good phone for a reasonable price but not a flagship killer for an amazing price.
Isn`t a good phone all we need realy, most extra features on the `flagships` are useless to me anyway
Beautiful phone with a crystal clear display and a powerhouse of its own class
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Love the phone so far. Extremely fast, very responsive fingerprint scanner and beautiful, vibrant screen.
Great phone so far.
The LG G4 on the other hand was frustrating as a device if not for the awful software experience that I couldn't even fix even if I wanted to. Never again doing anything but OnePlus or Nexus. G4 was a huge mistake.
Current 6p and HTC 10 user here and I can't even begin to say how impressed I am with this OP3. Grant it I've only had it half a day, so far I'm completely blown away!! Almost 3 hours sot right now and battery at 50% ?I love everything about it. Only mediocre thing is the external speakers. Amazing camera, beautiful screen, perfect size, feels greet in the hand, shoot it even looks great! Oh and the finger print reader is way faster than both the 10 and 6p. But the thing that impressed me the most is the skin. I'm still bone stock and I never leave phones stock.. it just has all the things Google SHOULD have in stock MM.. no bloatware either.. just an impressive handset and all for 400$ bucks! Here's some photos and screen shots! https://goo.gl/photos/RgwFUT3Rwhyt6XJL6
Nexus 6P, 5x, Note4, LG G4, S6 Edge, OP2 owner here.
OnePlus 3 is very much what Nexus 6P should be. It's lighter and faster than 6P and easier to grip and easier to use.
The 6P has the better display and better all around camera but the OP3 has everything most power user would ask for.
Tap to wake, Dark mode, and customizeable buttons are great to have. Hated how stock Android doesn't have these simple features.
Come from oneplus one, buy it to replace my 6p
using it since last night, overall it's worth buy. Excellenct build quality. loud speaker ( not good as dual-front facing stereo speakers like m8 and 6p, but it's loud and clear. ) good camera ( 6p>op3>note 5 ) ,crazy fast charge, feel rock solid in hand. battery seems ok with 5h SOT on lastest oxygen 3.1.3
I think it's a bang for just 400$
I totally loved my OPO, but now this piece of awesomeness OP3 is my new favorite
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Great phone
Love it
Loving my device. Sold my S7 Edge in platinum today. My one plus came in today. That should say a lot. This thing is a beast.
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It's all that.
As a previous owner of the oneplus 1 and then the oneplus 2, I can say that oneplus has out done themselves. I got my 3 in yesterday. Couple of quick points:
1. I waited for 6 weeks after initial launch date to just get an invite for the oneplus one (June 2014). It took the company 4 more weeks to get it to me after ordering and paying for it. Customer service sucked, invite system sucked, logistics and management sucked... Just about everything with the company SUCKED.
But the phone was awesome.
The specs and price couldn't be matched. That was the first phone I can honestly say I have ever fallen in love with. No screen issues or any of the other crap a lot of people were complaining about. Just pure love for the device, borderline hatred for the company though.
2. The oneplus 2 comes out last summer, again, with an invite system but I get lucky and receive one for being an early forum user within 2 weeks of official launch. It took them 6 weeks to get the phone to me. Was excited when I first got it, and then my optimism quickly turned to disappointment. The oneplus 2 was not nearly worth the upgrade. I should have kept my oneplus one in hindsight. Total buyer's remorse and top of that, the company still didn't have their shlt together. Again, customer service still sucking hard, untimely bug fixes for the OS, lags and heating problems with the phone, I could go on and on... Horrible experience all the way around. Hated that damn phone.
3. One more shot oneplus. Buying my 3rd phone from them in less years. 3 total phone purchases in less than 2 years. And only had the oneplus 2 since late September 2015, though it was ordered and processed the 2nd week of August.
With much apprehension, I placed my order for the 3, Monday afternoon, June 20, to be shipped to Atlanta, GA. I was distraught when my DHL shipping email was received telling me that the phone was in Hong Kong going through customs Tuesday morning. *sigh*, here we go again, I thought, but figured 'at least I didn't have to wait on an invite'. The phone was delivered yesterday afternoon. Less than 72 hours after placing my order, I got my phone in hand. Paid no shipping, no tax.
Totally different buying experience. Blown away. I feel like a parent must feel when they realize their baby is grown up. Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Moved all my crap over from the 2 and have been using the hell out of this thing and I can once again, honestly, say that I have fallen in love with my phone. It's my second love, the first being the oneplus one and now the 3. I have no qualms what so ever with this purchase. Awesome device. Just awesome, everything is as it should be. I have no plans to replace Oxygen or run a custom kernel. Though I have rooted it for using certain apps I can't live without. Adaway anyone?
I don't usually give any credence to these phone benchmark scores or ranks... but out of curiosity, I ran an antutu test and have attached the results. keep in mind, I'm totally stock. Rom, kernel, kernel settings like governor and thermal driver settings are all factory. I just don't see a need anymore, and that's a good thing.
Also, screens showing battery consumption so far. I use high accuracy location to share my whereabouts in real time with my family, that includes WiFi scanning enabled. Bluetooth is always on and connected to my Moto 360 2nd Gen watch, adaptive brightness enabled, vibration on touch and notification on, single Sim (t-mobile).
Anyways, that's my initial rant on things. Been around awhile, at least in oneplus years and right now I am happy as can be. This phone is a monster. Beautiful, sleek and cool on the outside, but down right vicious on the inside.
Don't be worried if your on the fence about getting one, it may not be 100% to 100% of everyone, but what is? You won't be disappointed.
Peace out my brothers from other mothers.
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Onelove
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He lived up to our expectations as a great device, leaving his successor with big shoes to fill.So far the was exactly that. Its beautiful screen coupled with its new oxygen operating system and the old familiar
wow, some even prefering it over the 6p!
well, i watched some reviews of the op3, it is so blazing fast.
how is the ram management for you op3 owners? and how is the display pentile pixel thingie?
some reported problems about ram management/pentile pixel issue, and OP replied quick that they will come with a new software update and fix those 2 issues.
would you op3 who owned a 6p really advise the op3 over a 6p?
(i am saving up for a 6p currently..) i could easily buy a MotoXPure as it is very cheap at 300$ , but it reminds me alot of my current phone lol.. so i rather want something more innovated.
While I like the device a lot I kinda miss the form factor and size of my nexus 5x. The s820 still has some stutter here and there that bothers me. Wish qualcomm could make a chip like the exynos cpus. Other than that ill hold onto it for awhile. At least until the next nexus comes.
by Android Central
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v30-review
Thanks. Very in-depth review.
Just replying to the "summary":
THE GOOD
Slick design and lightweight chassis.
Smooth, responsive performance and great haptics.
Excellent rear cameras, including best-in-class wide-angle shooter.
Quad DAC delivers phenomenal wired audio quality.
THE BAD
Glass back prone to scratching. (That's why we have TPU cases)
Display has contrast issues at darker brightness levels. (Pre-production model, so may be fixed -- and boost the brightness, duh.)
Front-facing camera is just OK. (I can live with that.)
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Review by GSM Arena!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_v30-review-1657.php
Not sure why they insist on reviewing pre-production model... But reading through it seems.to be a so so phone according to the reviews... With battery life being questioned all round
rohit25 said:
Not sure why they insist on reviewing pre-production model... But reading through it seems.to be a so so phone according to the reviews... With battery life being questioned all round
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ALL the reviews I've read says it's a fantastic phone, and probably the best phone out at the moment. Read the review linked at top, for instance.
rivals.
The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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Or this one:
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
Alternate URL:
http://m.scmp.com/lifestyle/article...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
The V30’s f/1.6 camera aperture excels in low light situations, while hi-fi audio capabilities, a large OLED display and smart UI tweaks are going to make it difficult for upcoming devices from Apple and Samsung to match
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ALL the reviews I've read says it's a fantastic phone, and probably the best phone out at the moment. Read the review linked at top, for instance.
rivals.
Or this one:
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
Alternate URL:
http://m.scmp.com/lifestyle/article...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
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Thanks for the South China Morning Post review. Pretty direct and to the point. And consistent with just about every review I have read.
Disappointed it is now being touted as a hybrid sim. I had high hopes we would finally have a high spec dual sim + dedicated SD on the market !
-still stuck with my LG G4 (H818P), which i love, but want something speedier now.
Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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Hey, I noticed that you have the V30 on tmobile and you're from Missouri. Have you had time to travel in some of the rural areas? It's the first phone with band 71 600mhz and is supposed to be part of tmobile's rural push. As a resident of BFE North Central Missouri, curious as to your coverage when out and about?
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Anyone else notice that despite this phone being out on retail as long as it has been, none of the top Android sites have posted a review yet?
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it's been out like 10 days retail. Don't most sites do 2-week reviews? And they have to write it up. Expect some by this weekend or early next week.
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Hey, I noticed that you have the V30 on tmobile and you're from Missouri. Have you had time to travel in some of the rural areas? It's the first phone with band 71 600mhz and is supposed to be part of tmobile's rural push. As a resident of BFE North Central Missouri, curious as to your coverage when out and about?
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I don't get out to rural Missouri much. Most of my travel outside of KC is out west through Kansas to Colorado (which has holes in native coverage counter to what the map shows) or south to Arkansas. Most of that route is pretty much covered already. I think Missouri Band 71 isn't slated to be completed until 2019?
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it's been out like 10 days retail. Don't most sites do 2-week reviews? And they have to write it up. Expect some by this weekend or early next week.
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I'm seeing Pixel reviews pop-up already and only the smaller one is even shipping yet. (And that's ship, not even in hands.) I swear up and down that I even had a video pop up in my youtube feed last week from one of the main sites but I never saw an actual post for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74219297
The screen dimming issues still there but not as bad as pre production. Still see cold spots when completely dim thanks to auto adjustments. In a dark room, the screen gets way to dark in my opinion.
My main gripe here is the front glass.
I had my LG v30 for five days at home. Never pocketed with anything and today I noticed three little scratched dead center top of phone. Wondering if I can trade it in. I had my HTC one m8 for 3.5 years before I got my first scratch. T-Mobile service.
ingram1225 said:
The screen dimming issues still there but not as bad as pre production. Still see cold spots when completely dim thanks to auto adjustments. In a dark room, the screen gets way to dark in my opinion.
My main gripe here is the front glass.
I had my LG v30 for five days at home. Never pocketed with anything and today I noticed three little scratched dead center top of phone. Wondering if I can trade it in. I had my HTC one m8 for 3.5 years before I got my first scratch. T-Mobile service.
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Trade it in, as in "get a replacement"?
I hardly doubt it.
Would you take a phone back that someone scratched?
adsubzero said:
Trade it in, as in "get a replacement"?
I hardly doubt it.
Would you take a phone back that someone scratched?
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This is a why screen protectors exist. It doesn't take much to scratch glass, even if it's Gorilla Glass 5.
Picked up a V30+. Loving it so far. My first Impressions Plus camera samples https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
So I finally got the TCL 10 Pro today from Amazon. I'm not going to waste time doing a full review or anything. There are plenty of YouTube reviews out there for that. I'm simply going to give the reasons why I'm sending it back to Amazon.
First, the cameras are REALLY average. And that's probably being generous. They lack so much detail and take such soft pictures that it looks like a watercolor. I took some pictures of bricks on my fireplace with this phone and they appeared almost completely smooth and without texture. I took a number of pictures, with AI on and off, with the 64MP mode as well as auto and pro mode. I should back up a bit to say that I have used a LOT of phones and I actually own quite a few because I like to switch them out. I have flagships like the Samsung Note 10, the OnePlus 7 Pro, and the Google Pixel 3, so I know what good pictures can look like. BUT, I also own a number of midrange and budget phones. Recently my daily driver has been a Xiaomi Note 9S. A $250 phone with better specs than this $450 TCL 10 Pro (except for the screen which is LCD instead of Amoled). The Note 9S takes AMAZING pictures compared to this phone! It's crazy how night and day they are. The Note 9S has better colors, much more detail, better dynamic range, etc. And it's $200 cheaper. I take a lot of pictures and selfies and so that's the MAIN reason I'm sending this one back. I DID actually install a few different versions of GCAM, and even with GCAM installed the pictures were not much better than the default camera app. So that was also a little disappointing.
Also, the NXT Vision feature is maddening. If you have it turned on, it is constantly messing with the screen brightness, and saturation, and color. If you take a picture and go to gallery it messes with the color on your pictures AFTER you have taken them. The only way to see what your picture REALLY looks like is to just turn it off, which is what I did. But then you don't get the enhancements to videos that you are watching unless you go back in and turn it back on again.
So anyway, the phone looks and feels and is built like a flagship. And if you don't care about photos or the camera, then go for it. But as I said, you can get more phone for the money that takes better pictures. I know the Xiaomi Note 9S may not have 100% LTE band coverage in the USA (I'm in NJ), but I do get LTE coverage, and I use T-Mobile. I would take the Note 9S any day of the week over the TCL 10 Pro. It's $200 bucks cheaper, and has a SD 730, and takes better pics. I'm not saying that you should buy one, or trying to talk you into one, I'm simply saying you can get better phones for the money if you shop around. Heck you can get last years flagships for less money and they have way better specs and take better photos.
I realize I only used the phone for a day, but as I said, I know phones and have plenty to compare them to. Happy to answer any questions.
I agree with you about the weird colorimetry of the camera. I haven't done much testing so far, though. As for textures, I haven't noticed anything. I have however few recent references: My old phone is a OnePlus 5T... I do not use GCAM. Should I?
I don't have against any problem concerning the download speed, either in wifi (2.4G / 5G) or in data.
Some translations of the interface in French are very approximate.
NXT Vision is the kind of "gadgets" I never activate. Besides it is not enabled by default but proposed during the initial configuration.
The quality of the screen is superb (HDR with Youtube or Netflix) but I notice very unpleasant changes in "color temperature" / brightness during the change of orientation of the device, for example.
I'm impatiently waiting for software improvements that will correct these youthful errors
Can't find a case for TCL 10 pro other than AliExpress.com
They arrive in weeks.
Sending the phone back
xphyle1971 said:
So I finally got the TCL 10 Pro today from Amazon. I'm not going to waste time doing a full review or anything. There are plenty of YouTube reviews out there for that. I'm simply going to give the reasons why I'm sending it back to Amazon.
First, the cameras are REALLY average. And that's probably being generous. They lack so much detail and take such soft pictures that it looks like a watercolor. I took some pictures of bricks on my fireplace with this phone and they appeared almost completely smooth and without texture. I took a number of pictures, with AI on and off, with the 64MP mode as well as auto and pro mode. I should back up a bit to say that I have used a LOT of phones and I actually own quite a few because I like to switch them out. I have flagships like the Samsung Note 10, the OnePlus 7 Pro, and the Google Pixel 3, so I know what good pictures can look like. BUT, I also own a number of midrange and budget phones. Recently my daily driver has been a Xiaomi Note 9S. A $250 phone with better specs than this $450 TCL 10 Pro (except for the screen which is LCD instead of Amoled). The Note 9S takes AMAZING pictures compared to this phone! It's crazy how night and day they are. The Note 9S has better colors, much more detail, better dynamic range, etc. And it's $200 cheaper. I take a lot of pictures and selfies and so that's the MAIN reason I'm sending this one back. I DID actually install a few different versions of GCAM, and even with GCAM installed the pictures were not much better than the default camera app. So that was also a little disappointing.
Also, the NXT Vision feature is maddening. If you have it turned on, it is constantly messing with the screen brightness, and saturation, and color. If you take a picture and go to gallery it messes with the color on your pictures AFTER you have taken them. The only way to see what your picture REALLY looks like is to just turn it off, which is what I did. But then you don't get the enhancements to videos that you are watching unless you go back in and turn it back on again.
So anyway, the phone looks and feels and is built like a flagship. And if you don't care about photos or the camera, then go for it. But as I said, you can get more phone for the money that takes better pictures. I know the Xiaomi Note 9S may not have 100% LTE band coverage in the USA (I'm in NJ), but I do get LTE coverage, and I use T-Mobile. I would take the Note 9S any day of the week over the TCL 10 Pro. It's $200 bucks cheaper, and has a SD 730, and takes better pics. I'm not saying that you should buy one, or trying to talk you into one, I'm simply saying you can get better phones for the money if you shop around. Heck you can get last years flagships for less money and they have way better specs and take better photos.
I realize I only used the phone for a day, but as I said, I know phones and have plenty to compare them to. Happy to answer any questions.
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Just got mine today and yes, the camera is not great and updates are a bit disappointing, still in March security patch, not great as well, but the phone looks amazing, the build quality is very good, I paid £340 for mine, from the UK retailer Argos and I should be able to claim a free 32" TV from TCL, not sure, because T&Cs say that I had to pay £399 for the phone and I paid £339, checked the price again today and it is in fact £399 now, not sure if I was lucky to buy it whilst there was a pricing error, but for £340 for a new phone, I think it is worth it and if the free TV comes later as well that would make it an even better deal, the phone has a great build quality, NFC for mobile payments and that AMOLED screen is very good too, the Note 9S is not even close in terms of build quality, plastic back and frame, LCD panel, no NFC, bloated MIUI compared to stock Android on the TCL, these things have a cost and it shows, but I agree, If you value camera more than anything, then yes, this is not the the best phone for that, I would prefer a used Pixel 3 XL or a Samsung S9 / Note 9.
hugoprh said:
Just got mine today and yes, the camera is not great and updates are a bit disappointing, still in March security patch, not great as well, but the phone looks amazing, the build quality is very good, I paid £340 for mine, from the UK retailer Argos and I should be able to claim a free 32" TV from TCL, not sure, because T&Cs say that I had to pay £399 for the phone and I paid £339, checked the price again today and it is in fact £399 now, not sure if I was lucky to buy it whilst there was a pricing error, but for £340 for a new phone, I think it is worth it and if the free TV comes later as well that would make it an even better deal, the phone has a great build quality, NFC for mobile payments and that AMOLED screen is very good too, the Note 9S is not even close in terms of build quality, plastic back and frame, LCD panel, no NFC, bloated MIUI compared to stock Android on the TCL, these things have a cost and it shows, but I agree, If you value camera more than anything, then yes, this is not the the best phone for that, I would prefer a used Pixel 3 XL or a Samsung S9 / Note 9.
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Basically agree with everything you said except for the build quality of the Note 9S. The back is actually made out of glass, not plastic, but yes it has a plastic frame. ?
xphyle1971 said:
Basically agree with everything you said except for the build quality of the Note 9S. The back is actually made out of glass, not plastic, but yes it has a plastic frame.
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Found a GCAM port that improves the picture quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tcl-10-pro/themes/gcam-port-tcl-10-pro-t4110393
Were you able to get 4G LTE, VoLTE, & Wifi-Calling while on the tmo network?