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What's with the Temperature Uniformity Issue on the Note 4 display?

What's with the Temperature Uniformity Issue (pink / purplish Tint) on the Note 4 display? A lot of folks at the Display Issues thread on the T-Mobile thread report this. I'm sure this doesn't vary from carrier to carrier as the displays are all manufactured under the same umbrella. What have your experiences been like? I know its varying a lot from display to display and you probably have a 1 in 3 chance of getting one without the issue.
Erica Griffin mentions this in her Initial Review on the Note 4,
http://youtu.be/-OyNWrQJzMY?t=18m34s
It's kind of absurd that Samsung would have the audacity to repair the device rather than replace it as a whole.

winlinmac001 said:
What's with the Temperature Uniformity Issue (pink / purplish Tint) on the Note 4 display? A lot of folks at the Display Issues thread on the T-Mobile thread report this. I'm sure this doesn't vary from carrier to carrier as the displays are all manufactured under the same umbrella. What have your experiences been like? I know its varying a lot from display to display and you probably have a 1 in 3 chance of getting one without the issue.
Erica Griffin mentions this in her Initial Review on the Note 4,
http://youtu.be/-OyNWrQJzMY?t=18m34s
It's kind of absurd that Samsung would have the audacity to repair the device rather than replace it as a whole.
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You can change the display settings on the device to however you prefer. Plus, this review is rather... odd. Most of the issues she is bringing up I do not see, or is plain fallacies.

Simsron1 said:
You can change the display settings on the device to however you prefer. Plus, this review is rather... odd. Most of the issues she is bringing up I do not see, or is plain fallacies.
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Erica has always been like this. Or at least a lot more like this over the past year or so. She often brings up stuff that 99% of people would never even notice in real world usage. I stopped watching her videos long ago. She is obsessive and pointless most of the time now.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Erica has always been like this. Or at least a lot more like this over the past year or so. She often brings up stuff that 99% of people would never even notice in real world usage. I stopped watching her videos long ago. She is obsessive and pointless most of the time now.
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Agreed. And I've just heard of this reviewer. Oh well.

I see what she's talking about; I visited several T-Mobile stores, some display models exhibited the issue and some did not. I believe Erica, but thank you Samsung for quality control inconsistency.

razer or op5t?

Usually, I don't really like topics like this.... But now I need your opinions, guys!
Accidentally smashed my op3 and now I need a new toy.
Already watched a massive amount of videos on YouTube about the razer phone. Love the style, the shape.
However, I'm still can't decide.
Razer or OP5T?
I'm waiting for your thoughts, opinions, etc.
Thanks in advance.

i had the razer phone i sent it back less than a week, dont get me wrong love the retro metallic build and speakers. but the software seems unfinished and non optimised. the screen as fluid as it is @ 120hz just cannot compare to the OP5T in vibrancy and the screen on the RP is just shockingly too dim (even the Nokia phones have brighter LCD Screens). the op5t just feels more polished and its software more snappy. I really REALLY REALLYYYYYYY wanted to like the Razer Phone, but OP5T just seems to me a much better overall package having used both. This is totes subjective of course ...

Gave away my s8 plus and got the Razer. Love it exept for the camera. Se what they will to when oreo hits. But If I where you i would go with 5T.

QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning

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QV1sten there was another Camera update this morning
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Yepp and still isn't any good in my opinion, sadly.

I've got both infront of me currently, struggling to decide.
Unfortunately the 5T is giving me a bit of trouble recently.
The others are right, the RP screen is absolutely darker than others, roughly 60% of the 5T brightness and colours can seem a little washed out due to AMOLED vs LCD.
Battery life isn't anything to shout about either really and don't get me started on the camera! jeez.
Lastly, and this might come as a shock, the 5T puts out more decibels than the razer phone, the last update really undermined the volume and now my 5T has about 15% more volume, not clearer of course, but yeh.
All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".

The one thing I don't like about the display is that it is "sunken". Nowadays most displays the glass and the picture are together, like you're literally touching the pictures. But on the Razer, you can tell that the picture is below the glass, which is weird as I haven't seen that in phones in the past 3 to 4 years at least. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but that's a con to me. I think mkhbd mentioned this in the preview video

I'm thinking about buy the phone to replace my LG V10 battery life pretty much bad on it and LG pressing trying me to buy a battery for it but they not selling it them from the website

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All that being said, the Razer phone is built well, and the 120hz screen is nice! I'm trying to justify the brightness by the fact that Razer are wanting to reduce burn in and prolong the life expectancy of the phone, I guess it's not too bad really.
I'm gonna keep using the razer and sell the one I like the least after a week. Don't get me started on the camera or should I say "potato".
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LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.

after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.

Roxas598 said:
after all the issues i've had with the Razer from the moment it went live to buy and now loosing a SE for a standard edition (currently using a wileyfox while the RMA process is happening) I considering selling mine on to get a different phone too.
The OP5T was on my radar as a replacement but if i'm honest I don't trust the company anymore, after the OP5 (which I had before the Razer) and it's hardware issues and OP halting the manufacturing of it so quickly so no one could buy anymore screamed of a new one with the hardware issues fixed and on top of that then there's the personal info they were taking it was the final straw and I sold the OP, of course I cuold have flashed a custom ROM onto it but i'm kinda done with that whole thing these days myself.
if you're set on the two devices it's a hard call. if you don't mind the OP personal info thing and never got burnt from them before (grant that little bit there is completely personal to me) then go for the OP5T, it'll have fantastic custom ROM support too if that's something you want.
my personal other option was the Essential Phone which tbh I think i'll get instead.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.

hunhool said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was thinking about the Essential phone, too.... But impossible to buy it in the EU(legally)
It is now 99%, that I go for the op5t.
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you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)

Roxas598 said:
you can get amazon US to ship you one which is what my plans are when I get the Razer phone back and sell it on, but yeah overall as of right now the OP5T has the better experience (other than sound quality of course)
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Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.

hunhool said:
Wow, just checked it and realised, I could order it from the US.
To be honest the phone looks amazing, however there is no community (especially here at xda) at all.
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You're right the development portion of the device is lacking on here but the company do bi weekly ask me anything on the subreddit so they're very vocal. If I'm honest the lack of support imo is because of the A/B partition (something the razer has) and the lack of sales due to it costing so much on release. Now it's went down and essential are implementing project treble it might get better via custom ROMs
But again that's not very important to me anymore.

greyhulk said:
LCD screens don't burn in. That's pretty much an AMOLED trait. The low brightness is a consequence of the 120hz technology.
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Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.

xocomaox said:
Actually, LCD can burn in. It's just far more rare.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Actually, I never claimed it COULDN'T. I said it's more of an AMOLED issue. I have yet to see an LCD burn in.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.

xocomaox said:
Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I figured "don't" meant they never do.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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I could have stated it better. Sorry if I came off as snarky.
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No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.

xocomaox said:
No problem. I think we can all agree that the Razer's screen is inferior to the 5T's screen in every way except the refresh rate.
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I couldn't agree more. Yet every time I go into a store and play with one of the new iPads, I nearly pull the trigger for that 120hz display. I think if it was at least brighter, there would be no hesitation.
No way I can view 400 nits outside in a Texas summer, though.
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First time Note buyer. What should I know or look for?

As the title says, this will be the first time I've purchased a Note phone. The last Samsung phone I've had was an S7. I've used Google, HTC, LG and even Blackberry, as well as iPhones. I've waited a while to upgrade and while I know there are the new iPhones and Pixels coming out soon they just don't interest me. Pretty boring, actually.
That brings me to this phone - the Note 10+. I've seen the reviews and I've seen everyone saying stuff like "it's just an S10 with a pen", it doesn't have this or that, they kinda mailed it in etc etc. While it would normally turn me off to this phone there is something drawing me to it. I love the boxy look. I'm genuinely curious about using the S-Pen. The camera is one of the most important things for me , and yet, while not Pixel grade, I'm sure I'll be happy with it. Hell, I've been using a U11 and an iPhone 7 for the last year or so and I'm sure this will be an upgrade from those and I can just use the Google port as well.
Having said all that I figured this would be the best place to ask people what I can look forward to when I pick this up later today. Any tips or tricks I should know? Anything extra I can do with phone that maybe the general public or site or YouTuber might not know or mention. Any and all information will be very much appreciated and I look forward to see if and any developments happen here for the Note phone. Thanks! ?

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That brings me to this phone - the Note 10+. I've seen the reviews and I've seen everyone saying stuff like "it's just an S10 with a pen"
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What's silly is when people downplay a product's selling point simply because it doesn't appeal to them. I don't tell people interested in e bikes that "it's just a bike with a motor". That type of close minded perspective serves no purpose, and fails to sate the curiosity of (potential) buyers. This is aimed at those that write professionally, not you.
As I always tell people, the S Pen has its audiences. Whether they choose to acknowledge them is their prerogative. Anyway, the S Pen's accuracy and precision are in line with other pens like the Active 2, Bamboo, Asus, and Surface. I've used 2 of these (including S Pens since N4).
While rare, sometimes I need a digital signature for e docs. The S Pen allows me to write like I would on paper or a ntrig/wacom based panel. Now, anyone that has ever attended a conference knows that you can't make a ton of noise, since you should be courteous to whoever has the floor. In this case it makes sense to use your phone to take notes/questions and annotate pics taken of slides as you record audio. Another situation, and likely the most obvious, is drawing. You can make things that achieve parity with the pens I mentioned earlier. Ofc skill level is another story...
Last but not least, the S Pen has other features like remote pics for vloggers and various air commands for things. If you consider what I've written, it makes sense that journalists overlook the S pen. People that rely on Notes were never going to find contentment with an S10, and yet they've managed to fuse the different audiences.

What to watch for? Probably an erection lasting more than 4 hours.
It's a pretty phenomenal phone line. You'll probably be on Note phones for a while...

Beware of the advertised battery capacity. It more than likely won't be the 4300mAh Sam is claiming. Mine is 4170 which is the minimum capacity tested.

Don't expect any timely updates. OS updates will come 7-8 months after Google release of it's anything like previous notes.
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Eudeferrer said:
Don't expect any timely updates. OS updates will come 7-8 months after Google release of it's anything like previous notes.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
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Not too worried about OS updates. It's not like it use to be when there were major changes in each version.

PsiPhiDan said:
What to watch for? Probably an erection lasting more than 4 hours.
It's a pretty phenomenal phone line. You'll probably be on Note phones for a while...
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I look forward to it....trying out this line of phones, not the long lasting erection I may get lol
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Beware of the advertised battery capacity. It more than likely won't be the 4300mAh Sam is claiming. Mine is 4170 which is the minimum capacity tested.
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Noted. I will see what it's about. But that will still be the biggest battery I will have had in a phone so interested to see how well it goes considering the big screen and amount playing I like to do with my phone's.

mrlugo88 said:
I look forward to it....trying out this line of phones, not the long lasting erection I may get lol
Noted. I will see what it's about. But that will still be the biggest battery I will have had in a phone so interested to see how well it goes considering the big screen and amount playing I like to do with my phone's.
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My Note9 was AMAZING for battery and the battery is smaller. The screen is bigger on the 10+, but I suspect the increase in battery will offset it. Plus the improvements with the CPU... I'm thinking battery life will be spectacular. As in... I only charge at night. Which is all I care about, personally. ?

Anybody cancelling their order(s) because of the HORRIBLE reviews?

Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA

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Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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No.

shollywood said:
Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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Nope. Because the reviews out at this point are early impressions based on not reaching expectations based on hype. Nothing ever hits that, and every phone review is basically the same as a result.
In the end, this is the best Android phone out there, and likely will remain the best for a year. Nobody else does "no compromises" phones anymore, because everyone else knows nobody will pay the money that it costs to do it. Samsung is the only player out there willing to take the risk of putting out a phone that checks all the boxes, and that's all I really care about - I am tired of paying close to a thousand bucks for a phone that has skimped out and leaves me wanting to upgrade a year later, and at this point in my life I can afford to pay more so I can just keep my damned phone for 2 or 3 years rather than regretting some annoyance 6 months later.

Nope, as long as it is better than my Pixel 4 xl.

shollywood said:
Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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I didn't get the impression that anyone was saying the camera wasn't better than the S10, only that the autofocus is slower. The camera is better than everything and on par with the iPhone 11 pro from everything I read.
Granted, it's hard to say a $1400 phone is worth it for the average consumer when the Pixel 3a and Chinese phones exist.

Maybe because it looks worse than my Note 10+ which looks worse than my 11 Pro Max which is king when it comes to video and night mode!
My delivery date is 03/17/2020 so plenty of time. Don't think that cancel button is going away any time soon. Real reviews will be live in a week running updated firmware.
After learning of the Samsung store's 15% restocking fee (!), I certainly don't want to make a $240 mistake.

Reviews are not horrible and everyone forget that phone is still 1 full week from officially launching. Everytime I get a phone on launch day, as it activates I get a software update. I'll be super surprised if there isn't a big update in the works coming in a few days

I'm going to try the phone out myself. People get way too emotional about new phones to give objective opinions and as others said, it isn't even released yet. I too have a P4XL and if I like it better, I'll keep it. I can afford it or I wouldn't have ordered it. I also just read Samsung's return policy on their website. It says you have 15 days to return a phone at no cost to you, shipping is even covered. I returned a phone a couple years ago and that's how it was. If that policy had changed I would think their website would reflect the change. returns

le0.br4zuc4 said:
Reviews are not horrible and everyone forget that phone is still 1 full week from officially launching. Everytime I get a phone on launch day, as it activates I get a software update. I'll be super surprised if there isn't a big update in the works coming in a few days
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We know for certain that there's an update to let you turn on 120hz mode at full resolution, and one to improve auto-focus performance.
The auto-focus thing is not really a focus issue so much as an artifact that has to do with the larger sensors and lenses - it behaves a lot more like an SLR than a phone camera in terms of focal length and F.stop, and hence the depth of field detection needs tuning. It's the same reason that the phone gives such incredible bokeh even without turning on portrait mode. Think of it more like the transition from fixed focus to auto-focus cameras, and how people had trouble getting good shots in the early days. More savvy reviewers picked up on this and were already correcting for it themselves by the time of their reviews.
Bottom line is this isn't likely ever going to be as "point and shoot" as other phones are, but they can tune things better than they are now and are working on doing so. In exchange, when you go into pro mode you should be able to do a lot of things that you simply can't with other phone cameras.

Most of the negativity has been about:
Value for money
Specific camera attributes especially the worthiness of 100x zoom
Battery impact of 120Hz refresh rate
Size, weight, and protrusion of the camera array
Missing headphone jack
Boring and limited colors
My thoughts:
With $1K phones not so unusual any more I guess value is relative. With Samsung's liberal trade-in programs a lot of people are going to being paying a lot that than $1.3K.
From reading the reviews improved low light, excellent zoom up to 10x, and multiple ways to take everyday photos will make the camera great and a step up based on the way I use it. I do think some of the issues like occasionally wonky auto focus will be corrected with s/w.
I'll probably use 120Hz and probably have more than enough battery to get through my day. I'll turn it off when I'm travelling when battery is more important than smoothness. I'd bet fine tuning via s/w improves 120Hz performance over time.
I currently have a Galaxy Fold so the S20 Ultra will seem small. But for those used to big phones it's just another big phone. The camera array is pretty in your face but most cases minimize it. I ordered a black phone to help make the camera array less in your face.
Yesterday's news.
Whether black and gray are livable is individually subjective. Don't like black and gray? Don't buy the phone.
This is the first 5G phone that theoretically supports the deployed bands. That's kind of big and kind of cool. I'm on AT&T and cities I travel to have real 5G so it'll be neat using it. AT&T'rs with long term plans for this phone keep in mind their changing their topology in 2021 and it won't work after that. Other than that it's just another solid evolution of the things Samsung does well. I'm guessing for those buying it the phone's assets weighed against its liabilities still make it worth purchasing. To each their own.

How many people actually stop and write a good review, very few because they are busy enjoying their new phone.

I'm gonna rock the Ultra 5g 512gb.Cosmic Black and wait till the Note 20 5g drops and see how Samsung improves and streamlines from the S20 Ultra to the Note 20 plus, with the trade ins each time and the bonus credits of preordering,Still not a bad deal,plus 6.9 inch 120 htz.refresh rate.I'm perfectly happy with that.as for the bland colors I always put a case on it from day one so problem solved on that,but I dont mind Cosmic Black at all either.

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Maybe because it looks worse than my Note 10+ which looks worse than my 11 Pro Max which is king when it comes to video and night mode!
My delivery date is 03/17/2020 so plenty of time. Don't think that cancel button is going away any time soon. Real reviews will be live in a week running updated firmware.
After learning of the Samsung store's 15% restocking fee (!), I certainly don't want to make a $240 mistake.
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Where did you hear about a 15% restocking fee? I don't see anything about that on the Samsung site (at least for the US Store) and I chatted with a Samsung rep who confirmed that there is no restocking fee for opened phones.

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Where did you hear about a 15% restocking fee? I don't see anything about that on the Samsung site (at least for the US Store) and I chatted with a Samsung rep who confirmed that there is no restocking fee for opened phones.
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Samsung seems to have multiple FAQ stores, some claim 15% on most items, others don't.
I returned a S10+, and don't remember a restocking fee, but I also have problems remembering what I did yesterday so.

My new S20 Ultra is here
On Friday, I got my brand new, cosmic black S20 Ultra, to replace my S10+ and there is no doubt that the S20 Ultra is the best phone I have ever used. It is better in every respect than any other phone including the note 10+: The screen is unbelievable sharp with amazing colors and contrast. Camera is quick and snappy and the photos are the best I have ever seen from a phone. So, don't hesitate!! Buy this phone and you won't regret it!! I also got the best case for the S20, the Speck Presidio Grip.. Expensive but the best money can buy.. Go for it

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On Friday, I got my brand new, cosmic black S20 Ultra, to replace my S10+ and there is no doubt that the S20 Ultra is the best phone I have ever used. It is better in every respect than any other phone including the note 10+: The screen is unbelievable sharp with amazing colors and contrast. Camera is quick and snappy and the photos are the best I have ever seen from a phone. So, don't hesitate!! Buy this phone and you won't regret it!! I also got the best case for the S20, the Speck Presidio Grip.. Expensive but the best money can buy.. Go for it
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What SW is it running? Does it have the new one with supposedly updated camera sw?

i dont really trust the reviewers on youtube. there will always be criticisms to try to be objective. but all the reviews are subjective no matter what.
people are going to say 5g is not worth it yet. but later, 5g will be used all over, and this phone will not be outdated by not having 5g.
i guess what im saying is, there are uneducated reviews about products on youtube

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what sw is it running? Does it have the new one with supposedly updated camera sw?
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Honestly, I have not read any horrible reviews. What I have read are several excellent reviews that also mention there are some issues with the Camera - but which look like they can be fixed with a future software update.
Certainly, it would be ideal to get a new phone and have everything work perfectly - -unfortunately, that isn't reality. The S20 Ultra still appears be an incredible phone - it just has a few software issues that need to be taken care of. I am stil feeling really good about the phone and feel confident that Samsung will provide u pdates to otake care of those issues.

sunmybun said:
i dont really trust the reviewers on youtube. there will always be criticisms to try to be objective. but all the reviews are subjective no matter what.
people are going to say 5g is not worth it yet. but later, 5g will be used all over, and this phone will not be outdated by not having 5g.
i guess what im saying is, there are uneducated reviews about products on youtube
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4G still good today. Also, 5G will not be avaliable in every country in at least 10 years so, unless you live in US or any country that has any plans of starting to use 5G in a short period of time (2-4 years), is pretty worthless. Probably after 3-4 years (being generous) you will change your phone and you would never have used 5G in that time.

one plus removing colour filter with update

XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."

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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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I think people are going over the top a bit, the camera does not take x-ray pics, and perverts will not be able to use it for that intention.
I highly doubt that OnePlus will remove the use of the camera because of the ability to see through specific types of plastic, the supposed see through clothes is more bullsh** , only very sheer and thin fabrics can be seen through and it has to be tight for you to even see anything.
But worst case scenario and OP do remove the use of the camera then they will either have a lawsuit against them or someone will open the use of the camera again with root.

omg seriously...
ITS NOT A DAMN X RAY!
You cannot see people naked by using the filter camera.
People need to grow up

the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.

alandd86 said:
the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.
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https://m.weibo.cn/status/J2z9UgzY7?type=comment&jumpfrom=weibocom
This seems kinda official. Im not sure if this will be for the Asian markets only, but I don't think so.
In any case, this is ridiculous. This is not the Sony camera from the late 1990s.

Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....

s3axel said:
Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....
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yeah exactly ,and if oneplus do this then everyone has a reason and right to ask for a refund !

Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....

s3axel said:
Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....
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It still worries me with the "limiting functionality" bit.

They're only doing this in China from what I have heard. Maybe the chinese government would've stepped in (wouldn't be a surprise at least)

combat goofwing said:
XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!

Is possible to downgrade to have the feature back if I buy a phone with Photochrom feature already disabled?

This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.

PMad said:
This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.
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What is temporary exactly, that it remains available or the disablement when gets updated?

MishaalRahman said:
Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!
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Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??

i just am lost for words at the stupidity of people..

combat goofwing said:
Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??
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You can still do lots of videos about it. How to preserve Oxygen OS version, how to downgrade, how to enable back after update...

Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"

chris181rt said:
Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"
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I guess it will depend if the update is just the camera.apk or the entire system.

I'm from China and i got a close communication with some of the developers in oneplus. It's really ridiculous that some of the people via media spread the news that the color filter works like an X-ray. Also a lot of female got afraid of it in weibo which I consider nonsense. Most of the oneplus users in China also got shocked and a bit annoyed. However, the filter would not be removed in oxygen OS according to some news. And in Chinese forum, one of the administer says the filter will be reproduced and likely to come back in June.