Picture Quality - Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion

Bought 4a5G to replace my Pixel 5 which had no gaps whatsoever, but the camera didn't produce sharp pics, maybe because of the new software version. Didn't know about that until now so I shot some pics w/4a5g today having the camera updated to ver. 8.x.x and then I reverted that update to 7.x.x. and took some more shots. Whatever I say about any differences, it'll be a subjective opinion, I see it – other ppl may not, what do you guys think?(...322276.jpg taken w/8.xx version, the ...34183.jpg app reverted to older 7.xx version)

I can only notice a lack of details and focus.

MroStudios said:
I can only notice a lack of details and focus.
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The older app version works better, I have more pics to compare. It's a phone camera after all and it desperately needs a better, bigger sensor if Google wants the Pixel to stay ahead of their competition.

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Anyone knows how to get the Stock G4 Camera app?

Hello!
Yesterday I flashed CyanogenMod on my G4 H815 and just before the phone rebooted, I realized that I won't have the mega-awesome Camera app from LG. So does anyone know if there is any apk or any way to get it? To mention, I didn't backup my device because... because.
Thank you!
Probably won't work even if you get the apk, since most OEM specific apps need OEM specific framework to run. I think the only way to have it working on CM would be to port it. But why would you want that anyway? The image quality won't really change. It's not that much dependant on the app but rather the drivers running the camera.
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Probably won't work even if you get the apk, since most OEM specific apps need OEM specific framework to run. I think the only way to have it working on CM would be to port it. But why would you want that anyway? The image quality won't really change. It's not that much dependant on the app but rather the drivers running the camera.
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It's not necessary the image quality, but the flexibility you have with that app (manual focus, iso, exposure time, etc.). I hope there is a way to use that app. While I was searching for it I found that there is the G4 Camera app ported for G3, so I am thinking that there could be the original app somewhere..
Thanks!
It's not possible right now. There have been efforts to port it, but nothing has come out of it yet. There are however other apps that are pretty good. And the CM stock camera app only misses the HDR and Manual settings. The quality otherwise is similar
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It's not possible right now. There have been efforts to port it, but nothing has come out of it yet. There are however other apps that are pretty good. And the CM stock camera app only misses the HDR and Manual settings.
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there are 3rd party apps that should work for manual setting but your max shutter won't exceed 0.7s. This is the already the case with the stock firmware and 3rd party camera apps.
There is something called night shot which the G4 resorts to very often especially with the front camera. that will be gone. Selfies ain't going to be as good. it's also used for the rear in lower light. Though a longer exposure will produce better images. night shot is a convenience when you don't want to set up on a tripod.
The quality otherwise is similar
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How can you tell ?
it requires a side by side in full resolution with 2 G4's one with stock & CM under varying lighting. Lots of comparisons like that.
How good is the Cm camera in auto ? that's one of the strengths of the stock G4 camera.
Does the Cm camera make use of the colour sensor at all.
Except for the 30s exposure there is nothing special about that app, just use Proshot and you will be far better, cancel noise reduction make dngs and you have better shots
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How can you tell ?
it requires a side by side in full resolution with 2 G4's one with stock & CM under varying lighting. Lots of comparisons like that.
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I can tell because I have seen photos from both cameras (on the computer). And if you really need 2 separate G4s under the same conditions side by side to tell the difference then there is not much difference. It's the audio bitrate debate all over again.
I am not saying it's as good as with stock but similar in most situations. I miss the HDR feature because it helps in low light situations.
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I can tell because I have seen photos from both cameras (on the computer).
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Can you post links to examples of photos taken with cm camera ?
saw a few in the g4 community but the max resolution was just 2.4MP, need to be full resolution.
The low light shots on auto were crap. The G4 is a low light shooter in stock auto.
And if you really need 2 separate G4s under the same conditions side by side to tell the difference then there is not much difference. It's the audio bitrate debate all over again.
I am not saying it's as good as with stock but similar in most situations. I miss the HDR feature because it helps in low light situations.
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Such are the requirements for a clinching argument. otherwise its based on faith.
if people want to go down this route they need to know what they will be losing.
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ObiDanKenobi said:
Except for the 30s exposure there is nothing special about that app, just use Proshot and you will be far better, cancel noise reduction make dngs and you have better shots
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heh, anything from 0.5s UP TO 30s isn't possible.
I would be very sceptical about replacing stock with cm camera until i see plenty of examples with cm.
Also bear in mind that vendors keep a very tight lock on their cameras and don't share much with 3rd parties. yeah you can use a 3rd party app in some circumstances but you can never replace the stock camera in all situations. This stock cmaera that can challenge the likes of smasung and is touted as a major selling point of the G4. Yeah, i say its pretty special.
Which is a requirement to any one considering the CM path.
What i'm reading here is if you want CM then you don't care too much about the camera to begin with. That would not surprise me as people that are good with roms don't tend to be very good with camera and vice versa. it's rare to find both those skill sets in people.

Oneplus 6 Camera port to Oneplus 5T??

Hi all,
Wanted to know if there is any chance of the oneplus 6 camera app being ported to oneplus 5t AND if it will produce any better photos than what we are currently getting on the oneplus 5t.
A part of me hopes that oneplus is just waiting for enough oneplus 6 units to be sold before sending out an update for oneplus 5t that will give us the same processing software and power as the oneplus 6.
Thoughts and opinions on the above are welcome from all, especially the developers who have made this website the awesome place it is today for all mods and apps.
rgds,
Gcam on the 5t takes way better photos than the 6 ?*?
Jamie_oppo said:
Gcam on the 5t takes way better photos than the 6 ?*
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Does it actually though? I've compared pictures and I'm seeing gcam has a bit better overall color from the HDR processing but there is quite a bit of graininess in mid-low lighting settings. OOS cam definitely still does have oil painting effect but it's a lot less pronounced in the latest builds than it was on release, and photos in mid-low lighting are not near as grainy as gcam photos.
Care to change my mind and share your gcam setup/5t fixes you used?
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Does it actually though? I've compared pictures and I'm seeing gcam has a bit better overall color from the HDR processing but there is quite a bit of graininess in mid-low lighting settings. OOS cam definitely still does have oil painting effect but it's a lot less pronounced in the latest builds than it was on release, and photos in mid-low lighting are not near as grainy as gcam photos.
Care to change my mind and share your gcam setup/5t fixes you used?
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Use the latest apk 7.9.5 and the fixes. Do some research in the unified thread. When hdr enchnaced is on. Longer shutter time. The photos are incredible. Hdr on doesnt do much atm (it used to but thungs are getting fixed atm)
Just dont touch to focus in hdr enhnaced. ( you need root tho. )
please remove
Not rooted yet so haven't tried out GCam. Since i have an extended warranty and damage protection, etc... I have not rooted and frankly ..this is the first android phone where i don't feel the need to root as such. I am more inclined towards an unrooted port of the oneplus 6 camera or maybe an official update... hope it happens sooner or later.
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Not rooted yet so haven't tried out GCam. Since i have an extended warranty and damage protection, etc... I have not rooted and frankly ..this is the first android phone where i don't feel the need to root as such. I am more inclined towards an unrooted port of the oneplus 6 camera or maybe an official update... hope it happens sooner or later.
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How can it be that you do not see the need for root when you have what you are looking for with root and Gcam? There is no logic in your thinking ... One plus will not give you anything, the Indian continues
the google camera port with latest fix is not compairable to oneplus 6's software or oneplus's software in a decades
the way it handles colors noise and skin is unbelievable
both front and rear hdr I feel now that I don't need to upgrade for a better camera my camera now is more like top 5 smartphones
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the google camera port with latest fix is not compairable to oneplus 6's software or oneplus's software in a decades
the way it handles colors noise and skin is unbelievable
both front and rear hdr I feel now that I don't need to upgrade for a better camera my camera now is more like top 5 smartphones
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A question. I have the version 7.8 of the Arnova Pixel 2 with the libraries in Magisk V1 because with the V2 and the last Gcam I lost the facial unlocking. Is this already fixed? If it is fixed which version should I install and what mod of Magisk with the libraries without losing the facial unlocking?
Regards
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A question. I have the version 7.8 of the Arnova Pixel 2 with the libraries in Magisk V1 because with the V2 and the last Gcam I lost the facial unlocking. Is this already fixed? If it is fixed which version should I install and what mod of Magisk with the libraries without losing the facial unlocking?
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I use this apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7.9.7.apk
and this magisk mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4513536&d=1527644726
everything works on google cam except slow motion
face unlock works perfectly
but stock oneplus cam is broke who needs it anyways
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I use this apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7.9.7.apk
and this magisk mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4513536&d=1527644726
everything works on google cam except slow motion
face unlock works perfectly
but stock oneplus cam is broke who needs it anyways
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Thank you very much mate. It is amazing this camera so good.
I just took some pictures and have improved more to the 7.8
Can we say that it is better than the native of OP6? I believe that yes hahaha.
Princeland said:
Thank you very much mate. It is amazing this camera so good.
I just took some pictures and have improved more to the 7.8
Can we say that it is better than the native of OP6? I believe that yes hahaha.
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of course it is there is no much of improvements in the op6 over op5t
the slightly big improvement is in low light only but still the op6's camera is far from google pixel ,apple and samsung
we get pixel quality photos with this mod so we have a top tier camera flagship degree
We probably take better pictures than the pixel xl 2 because we have a wider f1.7 lens lol
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How can it be that you do not see the need for root when you have what you are looking for with root and Gcam? There is no logic in your thinking ... One plus will not give you anything, the Indian continues
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I would love to root it but it is under warranty and apart from the camera, i don't see the need to root it for anything else.
Believe me, this is the first phone i am using where my fingers are not itching to root it straight out of the box.
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AlMaghraby said:
I use this apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7.9.7.apk
and this magisk mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4513536&d=1527644726
everything works on google cam except slow motion
face unlock works perfectly
but stock oneplus cam is broke who needs it anyways
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Nice, how is video quality, really like videos done with OP camera?
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Nice, how is video quality, really like videos done with OP camera?
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I would say OP Video output is better
I'm still curious about the OP's question. Would an OP6 camera port to our phone make a difference?
What are the best settings in the latest version of GCam? (HDR, ISO......)
AlMaghraby said:
I use this apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7.9.7.apk
and this magisk mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4513536&d=1527644726
everything works on google cam except slow motion
face unlock works perfectly
but stock oneplus cam is broke who needs it anyways
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Can you please give me the link of the magisk module thread? I would like to read more about it.
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Can you please give me the link of the magisk module thread? I would like to read more about it.
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https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/op5fix/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75285158&postcount=2050

For Those Of Us With T-Mobile Variants (Camera)

I can at least remind you of one consolation while we endlessly wait for an update to match what our international counterparts have gotten; you can download the .apk for the camera in that update now, and enjoy better photos. I emplore you all to do so, it is noticably better.
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I can at least remind you of one consolation while we endlessly wait for an update to match what our international counterparts have gotten; you can download the .apk for the camera in that update now, and enjoy better photos. I emplore you all to do so, it is noticably better.
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What is the version number of the updated camera app? I'm currently running version 3.8.87 on my 7T (Tmo).
3.8.87 is the newest. At least in mine, my version before updating was 3.8.7x. possibly why my photos have been bad this whole time. Some might be on different versions, since the camera app isn't in the play store?
Okay. I pulled 3.8.87 from apkmirror.
I have not noticed any major difference at all between 3.8.87 and older versions. I was always happy with the photos. I only wish wide angle and zoom lenses would be available in Pro mode.
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Okay. I pulled 3.8.87 from apkmirror.
I have not noticed any major difference at all between 3.8.87 and older versions. I was always happy with the photos. I only wish wide angle and zoom lenses would be available in Pro mode.
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For me, I've gotten better main camera photos, roughly the same 2x photos, and DRAMATICALLY better low light photos. Not exactly sure what version I had (I want to say 3.8.75, but it's been better for me personally.
When I converted from TMO to Global 10.0.7, the camera performance was very noticeable. It's actually caused me to start using it as compared to StarCam or GCam.

No PRO mode in 108 MP??

I just saw this in a review, is this true?
I am personally shocked this is not supported.. That is one of the reasons I want the Ultra, so that is the shot I'm taking is in ideal conditions I can get a full 108 MP photo with amazing results.. Does anyone know if there going to allow in the future?
It's true just discovered this myself
There really is no 108mp. It is 12mp that should be better than other 12mp. I know this is not glitzy as 108mp but is real.
There is no 100x zoom either. There very good 4x zoom
If anything troubles me it is that pro mode does not support the wide camera nor the 4x camera. There is no way to take raw photos with either of those. I find the HEIC abysmal. I need to see if JPEG is any better.
The raw from the main camera looks pretty good though. Perhaps better than other phones. You get verygood 12mp DNG file. That is impressive and great. You can also get RAW from the front camera.
The 4x zoom if not opened at 100% even in heic looks good. Heic though produces some awful smudging of details and halo effects
Kind of defeats the purpose.
AND not having development due to a locked bootloader.
May have to (keep) the favor to iOS side.
Seriously.
cpufrost said:
Kind of defeats the purpose.
AND not having development due to a locked bootloader.
May have to (keep) the favor to iOS side.
Seriously.
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This phone just came out. Give it some time dude
No Pro Mode Except for Standard Wide Angle
Pro Mode (raw format) is a must for me in both Ultrawide and Telephoto. Since this is a simple software fix, anyone hear if and when it will happen? Makes no sense that some beancounter in the system didn't allow full Pro Mode from the start!
Hey guys! Could you download this app called Camera2 Test from the play store? It reads all the features that all the cameras have implemented with the Camera 2 API. I'm curious if a 108mp RAW mode is there. You can go to the full tab in the app and share the file in here. Thanks in advance! (perferably from az exynos device, but both would be preferred!)
EDIT: There is another app Camera2 API Probe. Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Thank you! I copied it into a link: https://pastebin.com/0MwuVV9L
Please edit your posts since I don't think mods will like these long posts. (dont want you to get into trouble )
EDIT: could you share another report from another app, Camera2 API Probe as well? Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!
https://airbeat.com/cam2/5e6f8c725c154903f3dd905f
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https://airbeat.com/cam2/5e6f8c725c154903f3dd905f
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Thank you!!
kornelkahh said:
Thank you!!
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yes sir!
Camera2 api probe
kornelkahh said:
Thank you! I copied it
Please edit your posts since I don't think mods will like these long posts. (dont want you to get into trouble )
EDIT: could you share another report from another app, Camera2 API Probe as well? Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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airbeat.
[Ignore this space]
com/cam2/5e72ac945c154903f3dd9147
kirilk said:
There really is no 108mp. It is 12mp that should be better than other 12mp. I know this is not glitzy as 108mp but is real.
There is no 100x zoom either. There very good 4x zoom
If anything troubles me it is that pro mode does not support the wide camera nor the 4x camera. There is no way to take raw photos with either of those. I find the HEIC abysmal. I need to see if JPEG is any better.
The raw from the main camera looks pretty good though. Perhaps better than other phones. You get verygood 12mp DNG file. That is impressive and great. You can also get RAW from the front camera.
The 4x zoom if not opened at 100% even in heic looks good. Heic though produces some awful smudging of details and halo effects
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Can you please upload all the raw photos for us? thanks alot!
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Can you please upload all the raw photos for us? thanks alot!
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I uploaded one raw and couple of post processing options. One is without corrections and the other (warmer one) is to my liking. I used Lightroom.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y9sxeh8b1ne2ak1/AAD8fu5k5OC--tJol2euqjOUa?dl=0
I am yet to do a bit more photography with the S20 ultra. Here is an album of photos I took from a walk before the quarantine in my country. I will put more photos in there as I get more experience with the phone when I go out after the quarantine.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirilk/albums/72157713487224503
It is very fitting to my expectations. I wanted a phone camera that has wide angle and optical magnification higher than 75mm equivalent, Between 100 mm to 135 mm equivalent was my dream. SO S20 ultra is exactly that 12mm wide angle (excellent, 105mm equivalent telephoto is excellent too. There is also the larger main 12MP sensor I like. Yes it can do 108MP with tons of mathematics and that would likely get you a bit more detail at the cost of dynamic range and noise.....
PS I would very much appreciate if Samsung give us RAW files form the telephoto and wide angle. I know wide angle has distortion and likely the telephoto suffers vignetting and or distortion too but Lightroom can fix those things. Samsung should add another camera app meant for photo enthusiasts.. RAW files with high bit depth and latitude for editing in post should be the emphasis there.
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I uploaded one raw and couple of post processing options. One is without corrections and the other (warmer one) is to my liking. I used Lightroom.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y9sxeh8b1ne2ak1/AAD8fu5k5OC--tJol2euqjOUa?dl=0
I am yet to do a bit more photography with the S20 ultra. Here is an album of photos I took from a walk before the quarantine in my country. I will put more photos in there as I get more experience with the phone when I go out after the quarantine.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirilk/albums/72157713487224503
It is very fitting to my expectations. I wanted a phone camera that has wide angle and optical magnification higher than 75mm equivalent, Between 100 mm to 135 mm equivalent was my dream. SO S20 ultra is exactly that 12mm wide angle (excellent, 105mm equivalent telephoto is excellent too. There is also the larger main 12MP sensor I like. Yes it can do 108MP with tons of mathematics and that would likely get you a bit more detail at the cost of dynamic range and noise.....
PS I would very much appreciate if Samsung give us RAW files form the telephoto and wide angle. I know wide angle has distortion and likely the telephoto suffers vignetting and or distortion too but Lightroom can fix those things. Samsung should add another camera app meant for photo enthusiasts.. RAW files with high bit depth and latitude for editing in post should be the emphasis there.
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Thank you so much. If i understand correctly, the flickr photos are before the update, and the dropbox are after the update right?
All photos in the above post use the same software . I got one update immediately as I installed the phone.
G988BXXU1ATBM (there are two more version strings I guess for other hardware modifications) ,431,19MB in size containing the 1st of March security updates
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All photos in the above post use the same software . I got one update immediately as I installed the phone.
G988BXXU1ATBM (there are two more version strings I guess for other hardware modifications) ,431,19MB in size containing the 1st of March security updates
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Thank you for your efforts! I watched a video from India today. They got the ATC1/H update first. It looks very promising, take a look:
https://youtu.be/wZoWAben4CA
The old news about the ATC2 update from Korea are somewhat misleading since the update with the lower number brings improvements that where not to be seen in the ATC2 video from Korean user which we all have probably seen.
I just got an update to .......ATCH and can confirm AF works now pretty well including close up.
RAW from telephoto or wide angle is not available . Camera2 API does not see the telephoto camera.
So I guess AF is likely the only fix.

Question how is the camera quality ?

does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
Nowhere near.
It's definitely a league below, particularly in low light & video quality. A solid B- compared to the A-listers.
It's okay to good, for general social media requirements/ daytime photography.
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does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
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I looked a lot of review, the right hardware is there, the main problem is the camera software i will try with gcam apk and/or with some other camera application from Google store. Cameras software is the only weak point of this phone
Nope. You don't buy ROG devices if camera quality is a big thing for you. It does the job - that's it.
Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
as mentioned by some, the hardware is there but software is bad, even with gcam the results are poor due to bad API implementation.
6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
yellowchilli said:
6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
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Snapdragon even worse. Suffers from the exact same issues, however its just worse. It's generally accepted that the camera software is beta at best.
I'd love to see a full proper gcam port done for this phone
This whole phone is obsolete at its price. Everyone knew SD8 Gen 2 is coming shortly after the ROG 6, now it is here and every new phone out there will now smash this gaming phone AND offer a twice as good camera performance at a lower price.
Latoc said:
Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
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Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
TomKay said:
Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
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Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
Any update app or config?
Latoc said:
Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
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Thanks, will do!

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