Samsung 45w charger - Samsung Galaxy S21 Accessories

Can the 45w Samsung charger ep-ta845 be used for the s21 ultra with absolutely no difference at all compared to the 25w charger ep-ta800? I'm thinking about charging speed, heat, wear etc. It says on the 45w charger that it is compatible with super fast charging Gen 1 (25w) but it also has slightly different pps volt/amp ranges that aren't 100% aligned with those of the 25w charger.
Any knowledge on this here that goes beyond "it says that it works"? I know it will work, but will it be 100% equal to a 25w charger?

You can use it without any problems, but it will charge with a maximum power of 25W

yeloo said:
You can use it without any problems, but it will charge with a maximum power of 25W
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Good to know. I was a bit concerned about the ranges being different but I guess they have it figured out.

Edit:wrong topic
reposted my comment in 3rd party chargers

I got two of these brand new yesterday from my pre-order and they worked yesterday but don't work today. Both phone, different cables, different outlets, different phones and still won't even charge at all. Pretty pissed off that BOTH went out already. Maybe 5 hrs of use.

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Quick Charge 2.0 Poll

Sooo I just copped the Aukey 18W charger and I think it charges faster than the stock LG charger but I'm not sure. Isn't the phone supposed to notify me if QC has activated? I tried it on my G3 and it doesn't even show on that either. Does this thing even work in this? Also, main part of this thread was to start a poll on what you guys think the most effective QC is. Check out the poll.
A QC 2.0 charger will be about 20% faster than stock. Doesn't matter which charger you use. There are several good ones. And several threads on this already.
tourbound129 said:
A QC 2.0 charger will be about 20% faster than stock. Doesn't matter which charger you use. There are several good ones. And several threads on this already.
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There obviously are but that wasn't my question. I asked which is effective for the G4 along with a poll. You answered nothing. Read the OP before commenting please.
I've tried every one you have listed plus the ZeroLemon and a Samsung quick charger and they all perform the same, a 20% increase over stock just like I mentioned in my 1st post.
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I've tried every one you have listed plus the ZeroLemon and a Samsung quick charger and they all perform the same, a 20% increase over stock just like I mentioned in my 1st post.
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Now this is a helpful comment right here. Thanks. I almost wasted my money buying a different one.
I took a chance at this no-name Chinese Quickcharge 2.0 charger on eBay because Aukey refuses to ship internationally from Amazon, and I was pretty skeptical but this thing actually works. No pops or sizzle sounds emanating from it and it charges much faster than the one that came with the phone.
http://imgur.com/Bzj2xWw
I just recently bought an 18w Anker quick charge wall charger and it works great. It's faster than stock and doesn't make any noises like the one that came with my phone. What I like about this one is there is a light that turns from blue to green when it recognizes a device that supports quick charge (signifying that it is charging at higher volts). So far I am very pleased with this purchase, though I imagine it is just as fast as most other quick chargers out there. ?
Works great with Samsung Adaptive Quick charge... Also works much better with V10b-EUR-XX than V10a...
I read here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-LG-G4s-battery-recharges-23-faster-with-a-QuickCharge-2.0-charger...-or-a-Samsung-rapid-charger_id69692
And it said, that using the "QC2.0-enabled Motorola Turbo charger" it charged the G4 from flat, in 98 minutes.
It also said, that using the "Rapid Charger included with the Samsung Galaxy S6" it charged the G4 from flat, in 99 minutes.
So to me, that equals near enough makes no difference, 1% per minute of charging.
The Anker PowerIQ chargers also charge the G4 at the same pace, from flat to full in around 99 minutes. In my test, I was connected to wifi, and I used the phone as little as possible, but when I did start using it, of course it immediately started charging a lot slower. I have heard that it deliberately does this to avoid too much heat being generated, I think that was a post on here somewhere, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I did tweet LG UK to ask if the G4 supports the 9V tier of quick charge 2.0 , but have yet to get a reply.. Maybe I should ask their support instead.. (Although on that point, I don't think it does, due to the tests been performed with a proper QC 2.0 charger, which still took 99 minutes. The fact that the Anker is only 5v, yet charges at the same speed as a QC2.0 charger, certainly implies that the G4 is only using 5V even if 9V is available on the charger..)
I do want to say though how much I like the Anker products, especially the recent ones I've bought (the USB 3.0 hub with 3x PowerIQ ports, and some cables to go with it). They feel really well made, a solid bit of kit to be honest.
But anyway, hopefully this post was useful.
I've only tried the Aukey and I'm very happy with it. So much so that I picked up the 10000mah external battey as well. It also charges quite fast.
lawrence750 said:
I read here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...charger...-or-a-Samsung-rapid-charger_id69692
And it said, that using the "QC2.0-enabled Motorola Turbo charger" it charged the G4 from flat, in 98 minutes.
It also said, that using the "Rapid Charger included with the Samsung Galaxy S6" it charged the G4 from flat, in 99 minutes.
So to me, that equals near enough makes no difference, 1% per minute of charging.
The Anker PowerIQ chargers also charge the G4 at the same pace, from flat to full in around 99 minutes. In my test, I was connected to wifi, and I used the phone as little as possible, but when I did start using it, of course it immediately started charging a lot slower. I have heard that it deliberately does this to avoid too much heat being generated, I think that was a post on here somewhere, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I did tweet LG UK to ask if the G4 supports the 9V tier of quick charge 2.0 , but have yet to get a reply.. Maybe I should ask their support instead.. (Although on that point, I don't think it does, due to the tests been performed with a proper QC 2.0 charger, which still took 99 minutes. The fact that the Anker is only 5v, yet charges at the same speed as a QC2.0 charger, certainly implies that the G4 is only using 5V even if 9V is available on the charger..)
I do want to say though how much I like the Anker products, especially the recent ones I've bought (the USB 3.0 hub with 3x PowerIQ ports, and some cables to go with it). They feel really well made, a solid bit of kit to be honest.
But anyway, hopefully this post was useful.
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The QC spec only calls for increased charging speed from 0-60%. After that it slows and then trickle charge kicks in when it's close to 100%. Going from 99% to 100% can take 3-8 minutes in my observations.
Unless LG relaxes the heat threshold to let the phone heat up a little more, we won't ever see true QC 2.0 on this phone.
The Aukey one most definitely does not quick charge the G4. Ill link to this other thread if I can find it again, but every single person with the Aukey charger said it did not quick charge their G4's. Several of them tested with USB volt and Ammeters. The Tenergy (and by extension, the Anker quick-charger, which is a re-brand of the tenergy) seems to work at 9 volts. Its a shame, the Aukey charger is pretty darn good looking and comes in a slick package. Its very odd because the Aukey quick-charging external battery on the other hand, does just fine quick-charging the G4.
Platinum 2.0 with QQC (Qualcomm Quick Charge )
Purchased at Best Buy on 6/26 for $24.99 What I have found is that it charges faster below 70 % and about the same as LG standard above 70 %. From te comments I've read I think LG is limiting QQC to protect the phone. IMHO
Using the Samsung quick charger from my previous phone (Note 4), and it works great.
I have a "Zerolemon" brand. It works good. I have another for the car... but not sure what brand. Like always, you have to make sure you use a quality cable before it will work. Coming from the G2, I pretty much already replaced the crappy cables.
I use ZeroLemon and Motorola Turbo. Full charge from few mins to 1.5hr instead of 3-5+ hours using 1A chargers
EDIT: USB Tester shows 8.99V 1.32Amps
I just got my Tronsmart 54w 1x qc 2.0 + 3x 2.4mA car charger from amazon. Works as well as the motorola turbo wall charger. Took about 30 mins drive to work to get from 57-97%. Ampere messured approx 1970mA charge rate at start.
Impressive packaging and excellent build quality. Came with thick gauge usb cable. I got at a good price following a slickdeals post.
tourbound129 said:
The QC spec only calls for increased charging speed from 0-60%. After that it slows and then trickle charge kicks in when it's close to 100%. Going from 99% to 100% can take 3-8 minutes in my observations.
Unless LG relaxes the heat threshold to let the phone heat up a little more, we won't ever see true QC 2.0 on this phone.
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I don't know about you, but my phone has hit around 112 degrees F when charging. I don't think I want it getting any hotter.
hi,
i've bought a wall charger from Aukey, and a car charger from Tronsmart, both compatibles with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00RCM0TGY/ref=pe_386181_40444391_TE_item
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00XW0DET4/ref=pe_386181_51767671_TE_dp_1
and with theses 2 chargers, i have the same "issue" : my H815 charges at 6V 1,10A.
Can't these chargers go upper? 7,5V, 9V, 12V?
I received a zerolemon for review promotion but I don't think I'll use it for the daily usages. It is packed in my go to bags when I need quick charging but haven't really used much since LG provided extra battery pack dying the June promotion.
That being said I've noticed about 20% faster on ZL QC.
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how to get more speed charging?

hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
sublimaze said:
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
pemz82 said:
I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference
tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.
I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?
If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....

45 Watt Charger Options

In the USA Samsung have a charging kit which includes a 45 watt charger. No sign of something similar in the UK. Anyone spotted the official or compatible charger. Thanks in advance.
Edit Sorry just seen another thread on this subject.
Any word of a mobile charger with the same wattage/charging power ?
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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Some advice on Note 10+ fast chargers in this article:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/08/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-fast-charging.html
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking too. I don't even own a wireless charger, have no need for it. When I need to charge my phone I just charge it with the reg. charger or plug it in, in the car. The existing fast charge technology is fast enough. I added that above post seeing that there is much interest in this subject.
I've heard that the N10+ stock 25W brick takes only about 1 hour+ to go from 25% to full. The 50W charger is just another 'hype', in my opinion, created by the phone manufacturers to show-off that they are on top of the best technology there is. And, of course, to get some extra revenue.
Edit: some reviews say it gets really hot.
This says it uses PPS 2.0, do you guys think it's legit?
DBPOWER USB Type C Charger, USB-C Charger with Power Delivery 45W/60W USB Wall Charger for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, iPad Air 2/Mini, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, Galaxy S9/S8, LG, Nexus, Pixel, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM8ZWY3/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_-GyxDbPDPKPR0
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
mzsquared said:
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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"We weren’t able to test the 45W Super Fast charger ourselves, but on 25W, our Galaxy Note 10+ review unit went from 5% to 60% in 30 minutes with the device turned on and the screen turned off."
I just bought my 45W samsung charger via samsung using my reward points. Total cost is $5 (tax) that I have to pay for out of pocket. Worth it for me.
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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Personally, I charge my device at least twice a day, more if I connect to my audio interface as that draws power from the phone. I also have the hotspot permanently turned on which can kill the battery really quickly.
Dont really care what it's doing to the battery as it'll be gone back to Samsung next year through the upgrade program.
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
I got the Ugreen 45w PD charger.
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Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
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Unfortunately even having a PPS charger doesn't do the trick - I have an AUKEY 60W charger with PPS and it is charging slower than the stock 25W
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ggrant3876 said:
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
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Yeah that item on amazon now has a note:
- This charger does not support 45W fast charging for Samsung Note 10.
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You should be able to use most usb C laptop chargers to get the 45W power output, but it also has to have PPS as far as what I have understood. The original one will work of course and it's always the recommended choice - tough you may ask yourself if you really need it.
I bought one for travelling. When flying I have moments that I really have to charge fast. And as it may not be perfect for the battery I will just use it when flying.
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I really would like to know more about it. I mostly buy a new one every year, and pass the "old" ones to my (grand)children.:angel:
So personally I am not interested in battery life
I bought a belkin QC4 PD charger. 27w. Chargers 50% in 35 mins. Don't buy cheap chinese crap and risk burning your house down.

The original charger can charge faster than the 45W charger with the right cable?

I have information regarding the Note 10+'s 45W charging ability. I just completed my own charging speed comparison. I depleted two Note 10+'s and am charging them from 0 with the phones powered off. One is on the 45W charger and the cable it comes with. The other is on the original Note 10+ charger, BUT is using an aftermarket USB 3.1 Gen 2 C to C cable. The results are VERY surprising!
At around 7 minutes, the 45W charger jumped out ahead at about 23% while the original charger was around 15%. Somewhere between that 7 minute timeframe and 15 minutes though, the original charger caught up. At 15 minutes both phones were at 36%.
Here's where it gets interesting though. At 30 minutes, the original charger actually pulled ahead of the 45W charger! The 45W was at 65%, while the original charger was at 69%.
At 45 minutes, the 45W charger closed the gap ever so slightly, with it being at 83% while the original charger was at 86%.
At 60 minutes, the gap closed a bit more. The 45W charger turned in a charging percentage of 95% , while the original charger had a percentage of 96%
At 67 minutes, the original charger reached 100%, while the 45W charger was a little behind at 97%. The 45W charger would then finally reach 100% 2 minutes later ( a total of 69 minutes).
In summary, I found that with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable, the original Note 10+ charger is capable of the same charging speeds (actually slightly faster) as the 45W charger.
Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
Sounds more like a faulty battery for me
Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
And could you repeat the test but swap the carger for the device (the one with orig charger gets 45w), just to make sure it isn't a phone "problem"
Dolgogi said:
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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That's actually what I intend to do when I finish depleting the battery. I'm hypothesizing that the charge time will likely not be any different than with the cable the 45W comes with, as I'm guessing that cable is likely a USB 3.1 gen 2 cable. I'm guessing the cable that comes with the original charger is probably a gen 1 cable (just a theory).
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Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
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Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
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I used these cables.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F3HVYTJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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I just completed it with the other cable in the 45W charger, and the results were almost the same (it reached 100% at 64 minutes) as they were with the cable that comes with it (pictures attached). Looks like the charger that comes with the Note 10+ is capable of more than we gave it credit for. We just have to make sure we're using a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable with it.
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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It's not a stupid question lol. But yes, I have it enabled. Most of the other 45W tests I've seen have had results comparable to my 45W test. There seems to be a pronounced slow down towards the end. I don't know why Floss' test came out the way it did, but I can't replicate that on my two devices, and I haven't seen 50 minutes elsewhere either.
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
The generation version only increase the bandwidth capability of the cable and should not have anything to do with charging.
If I'm not wrong, there should be something with the stock 45W cable to enable faster charge since it must goes beyond official USB-C specs.
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The other thing to take in consideration with newly discovery made here is that the official battery capacity can be between 4170 and 4300 mAh.
ran816 said:
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
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The cable also has to be 5A and yours might not be. And use the cable that came with each charger (or 5A).
It's harder to find longer cables that meet all the specs but I bought several of these and they've been terrific...
USB C to USB C Cable 5A Fast Charging, CableCreation 10ft USB C to C Cable,Support 100W Power Delivery (PD), Compatible with MacBook(Pro) 15-inch, Google Pixel 3XL, Samsung Note 8 & More,3M/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZWUNCH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DtpWDbMVWMT3Z
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Are you doing this with the the device off? Try leaving the devices on and see what happens. I know between 1-80% it goes a lot faster with the 45W charger over the 25W charger. The ET I don't bother following them because it's an estimate not a constant.
Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
Edit:
Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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Flossy results are about the same as mine. Right under an hour from 0-100% and roughly 50 mins from like 10-15% to full. I am happy with that. Using a 10 ft cable as well not the factory Samsung charger
Man your chargers are both charging at 25W, 45W charging should last from 0% to 100% about 60 minutes, many finish in 58/59 minutes

Where to buy an extra OEM charger

I am looking to purchase an extra 18W charger, North American variant.
Is it available for purchase anywhere?
The only 18W charger I could find on Asus' store mentions being a notebook charger.
But it appears to be identical.
Having used OnePlus phones, I do miss how easy it was to purchase accessories on their website...
Thanks
Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.
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Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.
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Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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sedp23 said:
Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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I guess the original charger will be faster. Can you try and compare it?
I compared the two.
Note, that, presumably, because the OEM charger does not go up the maximum 20V of QC4 (only 9V) it is not actually a certified QC4 charger, despite using the standard.
Also, the power rating for QC4 isn't actually higher than QC3, it merely has finer voltage control, allowing for better efficiency.
Sidenote, funnily enough, my QC3 charger is two thirds the size of the ASUS downgraded QC4 charger...
I used ampere to measure current at 50% charge.
That said, I used a QC3 charger from my previous Mi Max 2, it definitely got picked up by the Zenfone 6, showing the two plusses in the battery icon. It reached a max current of 2.5A
The OEM charger reached a stable 3A.
A difference is certainly there, but my guess is it won't actually be THAT significant in the real world. Personally I always use two chargers, the OEM for fast topping up, when needed. And another really "crappy" (0.8A smartwatch charger) for overnight charging so that the majority of the charging I do stresses the battery as little as possible. No matter what Qualcomm likes to tell you, fast charging definitely shortens the lifespan of a battery, so while convenient, it's good to do it as little as possible.
If you REALLY want the fastest possible results, try and find a QC4 charger. Only a few actually exist to buy right now.
Otherwise you can get a QC3 charger, there are TONS of those, and you can actually get the pretty cheap too. You'll only lose 0.5A anyway.
You could probably also use a USB PD 3.0 charger, as QC4 is able to negotiate voltages with it as if it were a fully supported QC charger.
Edit. Tried charging with both from 55% to 71% (It just happened to be where I was at with one charger, then used a battery drainer to do the exact same charge).
The QC3 charger was one minute slower at 16 minutes, while the OEM did it in 15 minutes.

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