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Initial thoughts on first weekend with my tmo V30

Ok, so I received my T-Mobile V30 Friday afternoon and have used it quite a bit since then. here are my highlights/low-lights so far.
Overall I really LOVE this phone. I've been knowing for a while that it would have just about all I wanted in a phone from physical size to features (minus stock android and quick updates). It will be a tough decision which to keep when the Pixel XL I pre-ordered arrives.
Physically
-Look and feel is fantastic.
-Great screen to body ratio
- size is the perfect mix of size and ease of use.
-Screen looks great! Not Samsung Note 8 great, especially in bright sunlight but in the top displays I've ever used. (coming from a note 8)
Software
-Scroll speed is disappointing. I find it moves slow and when I try to scroll fast in FB or even my google news feeds it stutters and is just not fluid.
-A big annoyance (besides the scrolling speed) for me was the auto brightness. LG really needs to have something like Samsung where you can set the brightness for a setting and not just full auto. Because they ALWAYS have my screen too dim. I was forced to download Lux which I should not have to do.
Camera
-Excellent camera but not on par with Pixel line or Samsung. Don't get me wrong, it is a great camera and in the sunlight it is fantastic but low light it does not do as well as Note 8. Video or Stills. But it is very adequate for my needs and I prefer having the wide-angle lens over the zoom lens any day.
-The one thing that really bothered me was shutter lag at times. Sometimes when I snapped a photo it was almost instant and others I had to wait a second or so. Long enough to think I might not of pressed the button. Not sure if others have had this issue but it is troublesome. It was not isolated to taking multiple photos fairly quickly either. Sometimes first shot.
Battery
-Battery is very good. Last night I went to sleep with 50% left and screen on time of 3 hours and 20 minutes. That, to me, was fantastic.
-I don't see any trouble with me getting a fully heavy use day out of this phone without charging.
That is about it for now. I'll post an update if I find something else noteworthy. If you have a question feel free to ask.

keithleger said:
Ok, so I received my T-Mobile V30 Friday afternoon and have used it quite a bit since then. here are my highlights/low-lights so far.
Overall I really LOVE this phone. I've been knowing for a while that it would have just about all I wanted in a phone from physical size to features (minus stock android and quick updates). It will be a tough decision which to keep when the Pixel XL I pre-ordered arrives.
Physically
-Look and feel is fantastic.
-Great screen to body ratio
- size is the perfect mix of size and ease of use.
-Screen looks great! Not Samsung Note 8 great, especially in bright sunlight but in the top displays I've ever used. (coming from a note 8)
Software
-Scroll speed is disappointing. I find it moves slow and when I try to scroll fast in FB or even my google news feeds it stutters and is just not fluid.
-A big annoyance (besides the scrolling speed) for me was the auto brightness. LG really needs to have something like Samsung where you can set the brightness for a setting and not just full auto. Because they ALWAYS have my screen too dim. I was forced to download Lux which I should not have to do.
Camera
-Excellent camera but not on par with Pixel line or Samsung. Don't get me wrong, it is a great camera and in the sunlight it is fantastic but low light it does not do as well as Note 8. Video or Stills. But it is very adequate for my needs and I prefer having the wide-angle lens over the zoom lens any day.
-The one thing that really bothered me was shutter lag at times. Sometimes when I snapped a photo it was almost instant and others I had to wait a second or so. Long enough to think I might not of pressed the button. Not sure if others have had this issue but it is troublesome. It was not isolated to taking multiple photos fairly quickly either. Sometimes first shot.
Battery
-Battery is very good. Last night I went to sleep with 50% left and screen on time of 3 hours and 20 minutes. That, to me, was fantastic.
-I don't see any trouble with me getting a fully heavy use day out of this phone without charging.
That is about it for now. I'll post an update if I find something else noteworthy. If you have a question feel free to ask.
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How is reception? On my G6 is pretty bad...
Also, any display problems on low light and low brightness conditions?
For scrolling go to developer options and enable force gpu rendering, it should scroll better

Killua96 said:
How is reception? On my G6 is pretty bad...
Also, any display problems on low light and low brightness conditions?
For scrolling go to developer options and enable force gpu rendering, it should scroll better
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Thanks, it did help the scrolling. Went from bad to acceptable. not sure what side effects that will cause elsewhere.
Reception has not been an issue this weekend but I use my phone more on weekdays so I'll see. I did get 1 or 2 fail/resend on text messages but that could be tmo also.
I use my phone before bed in the dark with it close to all the way dim. Either I don't know what to look for or it does not bother me. Either way I'm totally satisfied with it in low light.
However, I do wish it had the 1200 nits that the Note 8 has. Today at the pool it was difficult at times to take a photo and really see what I was taking a photo of at 100% brightness.

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I use my phone before bed in the dark with it close to all the way dim. Either I don't know what to look for or it does not bother me. Either way I'm totally satisfied with it in low light.
However, I do wish it had the 1200 nits that the Note 8 has. Today at the pool it was difficult at times to take a photo and really see what I was taking a photo of at 100% brightness.
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Thanks, I use it in that way too before going to sleep, it's one of the moments where I can play some games, this is way that display problem brothers me so much.
Now I'll wait for Europe price and relevant date, if it'll arrive at 799 euros in Vodafone stores I'll probably buy it.
Keep me updated for the reception, on G6 I think is worse than on G5 Lol

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Thx you a lot for your post. But can you help me, i really need to see camera difference between V30 and Note 8. Is V30 really so bad? Wil you do some​ comparison?
And is front face camera so bad? :/

The camera is above average just not quite as good as Pixel or Note 8. For selfies, if you set the skin tone and lighting effects to 0 then it is ok.
Here is an album. The colored balls, food duplicate shots are for comparison. (I deleted most of my comparison photos. Was done for personal comparison so no reason to keep them)
Use "info" to see the model number of the camera that took the photo. Easy if you have windows 10 and default photo viewer. (click info icon at top right)
The boy in the sand photos and the selfie of me and my wife are from today on the V30 and I had already packed up the Note 8 to sell on swappa.
Low light - just had a crack in the door with very little light coming into the room. Note blew the V30 away on this one.
Photos from LG that seem close then far are regular and wide angle lens.
All photos are on "auto" setting for both phones.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vk3z0QrNqPBvrybI3

Curious, what kind of battery life were you getting with the Note 8? Were you making it through the day? Is the scroll lag worse than the Note?
Overall, are you liking the phone more than the Note? I'm very stuck deciding between the two heh

ryanpm40 said:
Curious, what kind of battery life were you getting with the Note 8? Were you making it through the day? Is the scroll lag worse than the Note?
Overall, are you liking the phone more than the Note? I'm very stuck deciding between the two heh
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Have u seen the videos speed between note 8 vs v30? V30 was slower but my problem was with this was, just like the s8 plus. The v30 cannot keep app in the background and are constantly reloading. Finished the second round more than 1 minute behind the note 8. Having 6gb ram o. A non stock android js a must for me.
I was just like u but after the price. And everything um m get for just $130 more, spen, larger better screen, more ram. And hold its value better. I bought the note 8 2 days ago. Prettg happy so far.

My phone comes tomorrow and after reading several posts about it, I am considering a return. I went to the VZW store today to see it and everything about the look I like. I went into the camera to take some pics and I noticed right away that the shutter took way too long to take the shot. The odd thing about the camera is I had the G6 and it took great low light pics, even better than my S8+. One of the main reasons I wanted the V30. I'm worried now I will be giving my S8 back for a phone that isn't "better". I'm so tempted now to just buy the Pixel or wait and get the iPhone X. This sucks so bad. I was looking forward to the V30 and have no desire to get the Note 8.
Oh, nice pics and your wife is hot.

eduardmc said:
Have u seen the videos speed between note 8 vs v30? V30 was slower but my problem was with this was, just like the s8 plus. The v30 cannot keep app in the background and are constantly reloading. Finished the second round more than 1 minute behind the note 8. Having 6gb ram o. A non stock android js a must for me.
I was just like u but after the price. And everything um m get for just $130 more, spen, larger better screen, more ram. And hold its value better. I bought the note 8 2 days ago. Prettg happy so far.
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Ooh so the S8 Plus isn't any better? Was considering that as well to save a little bit.. They have a $300 trade-in deal on all phones on Samsung's site, even goes towards 24 month financing.

keithleger said:
-A big annoyance (besides the scrolling speed) for me was the auto brightness. LG really needs to have something like Samsung where you can set the brightness for a setting and not just full auto. Because they ALWAYS have my screen too dim. I was forced to download Lux which I should not have to do.
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You can't just turn off auto-brightness? I've done that in every LG phone, from G2 to G4 because yes, they make it too dim.
Have they disable manual brightness setting or something?

keithleger said:
The camera is above average just not quite as good as Pixel or Note 8.
For selfies, if you set the skin tone and lighting effects to 0 then it is ok.
Here is an album. The colored balls, food duplicate shots are for comparison.
Use "info" to see the model number of the camera that took the photo. Easy if you have windows 10 and default photo viewer. (click info icon at top right)
The boy in the sand photos and the selfie of me and my wife are from today on the V30 and I had already packed up the Note 8 to sell on swappa.
Low light - just had a crack in the door with very little light coming into the room. Note blew the V30 away on this one.
Photos from LG that seem close then far are regular and wide angle lens.
All photos are on "auto" setting for both phones.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vk3z0QrNqPBvrybI3
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Actually quite impressive pictures -- and I'm glad you chose "auto" for these tests. Most of the time we take pictures, I'm really not going to mess with the settings. My wife especially will not. She went hiking with a friend last weekend through a forest with a waterfall, and while the pictures were nice I wish she had THIS camera. One shot was taken by a stranger to whom she handed her phone -- with her and the friend standing amidst the foliage, with the waterfall visible behind them. Adjusting settings just isn't going to be done in that situation, and she wouldn't know how.
Yes, it's nice to have settings you can adjust for long setup time, I appreciate LG adding that capability -- but let's be honest. 90% of the time it's about taking the picture quickly.
On the close-up colored balls comparison, I might give the Note the win, but barely. The V30 is very, very close.
On the french fries/granite counter wide shot, I prefer the V30 over the Note. The V30 wins on that one, to me.
Low light shots of the PC on the floor, yeah, the Note was cleaner, clearer. The Note had great focus and color of the baseboard and wall, as well as the PC.
But the outdoors shots of the V30 you have are great. Thank you for sharing.

ryanpm40 said:
Curious, what kind of battery life were you getting with the Note 8? Were you making it through the day? Is the scroll lag worse than the Note?
Overall, are you liking the phone more than the Note? I'm very stuck deciding between the two heh
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1. I did not notice any scrolling lag on the Note 8 at all. It was pretty smooth. There was the lag after pressing home button or switching between apps like all galaxy devices but the Note is the most responsive phone Samsung has ever created.
2. Battery seems to be better on the V30. I could make it through the day on the note but I tried killing the battery yesterday on the v30 and I had almost 6 hrs of SoT and 18 hrs on...still almost 40% very impressive. For me at that point the Note would have been dead.
What made me decide to keep the V30 and sell the note was the following.
1. I much prefer a wide angle lens over a zoom lens. So many times I need to capture more int he scene yet can't back up. I'll sacrifice a little quality to get that.
2. Size. Note was just too tall. It bothered me and it was the first phone I did could not adjust to it "feeling big". The V30 just feels like the perfect phone in my hand size wise. I'm 6'3" and don't have small hands but just could not get used to the note. It would stick out of my jean pockets..sad when a phone can't fit in your pocket. LOL
3. I really don't like the curved edges. too many accidental touches. I know it makes the bezels "look" smaller but I prefer the "almost" flat screen of the v30.
4. I did not use the pen much at all. Maybe to show people what it could do or my son played with it drawing. But I won't miss it. I'm sure others use it a ton and can't do without it. I just don't.

ChazzMatt said:
You can't just turn off auto-brightness? I've done that in every LG phone, from G2 to G4 because yes, they make it too dim.
Have they disable manual brightness setting or something?
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Of course you can. But that is not the ideal solution. On an $800 flagship I should not have to do that. Lux is a better option than that. This is something LG should fix. It was/is an issue on the G6 as well.

found a few more photos, added. The last few of the lowpro bag were with morning light (overcast day) coming through a window about 8 feet from the storage table. No interior light on in the room.
closeup of PC card - taken from about 10 inches away with both cameras, focused on heat sync on the card. Light from window 5 ft away and room light on. So a good amount of indoor lighting.
Also, a note on all the photos I took. I did press my finger on the same focus point and let the camera focus just to make sure I compared the same results. I do this most of the time when taking photos anyway. So, this was not a test on the auto focusing abilities of each camera. on the last one I pressed on the DVD stack on all 3 photos. I also sat with my elbow on my knee in the same exact spot/distance for all 3. Which shows how much more of the scene you can actually get with the LG wide angle lens. The reason I love having that.

Interesting. Thanks for the images. I would be using auto mode mostly for family shots etc. I would be happy with those results.
Is there any delay in pressing shoot and the capture? Read in another post it was a bit laggy

EggZenBeanz said:
Interesting. Thanks for the images. I would be using auto mode mostly for family shots etc. I would be happy with those results.
Is there any delay in pressing shoot and the capture? Read in another post it was a bit laggy
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Yeah, as I stated in initial comment. I noticed inconsistency with camera. Sometimes it is instant and other times there is a noticeable lag. I have not done enough testing to know if the lag is based on setting/light or if it is just truly random but I have experienced it. Note 8 had no lag whatsoever as I'm sure the Pixel 2 will not if it is anything like the Pixel. My reason for keeping the V30 was that the wide angle lens and size was far more attractive to me vs the negatives. It will be a hard decision when my Pixel 2 XL comes in though. I just like how responsive the Pixel phones are. This v30 is laggier than the Note 8 for sure but bearable. Hopefully there will be a firmware update to fix some of these issues soon.

EVOme said:
My phone comes tomorrow and after reading several posts about it, I am considering a return. I went to the VZW store today to see it and everything about the look I like. I went into the camera to take some pics and I noticed right away that the shutter took way too long to take the shot. The odd thing about the camera is I had the G6 and it took great low light pics, even better than my S8+. One of the main reasons I wanted the V30. I'm worried now I will be giving my S8 back for a phone that isn't "better". I'm so tempted now to just buy the Pixel or wait and get the iPhone X. This sucks so bad. I was looking forward to the V30 and have no desire to get the Note 8.
Oh, nice pics and your wife is hot.
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I had the G6 as well. I assure you the photos are better in all areas over the G6. Especially the wide angle lens.
haha, thanks.

The only photo taken by the note that I preferred was the kitchen island photo lol. Aaaaaand I have a million photo adjustment options to bring down the cool tint to the photo. Thanks for sharing OP
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keithleger said:
Of course you can. But that is not the ideal solution. On an $800 flagship I should not have to do that. Lux is a better option than that. This is something LG should fix. It was/is an issue on the G6 as well.
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I read that some carriers actually disabled the brightness feature you're looking for on the V20. I know that t-mo was one of the carriers that disabled this feature. I have the V20 currently and on AT&T I can increase the brightness if it's too dim and the phone will still auto adjust the brightness if lighting conditions change, but it will remember that in a certain lighting condition, I changed the brightness and it will use the value that I previously set instead of the default value. I'm thinking t-mo also disabled it on the V30 also.
This thread will probably explain it better than I did haha:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/auto-brightness-t3490880/

Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs S9 Plus – Camera Test

I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw

xdaman85 said:
I put the Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus's cameras up against its predecessor the S9 Plus, in an attempt to determine how much has improved and whether or not it's worth upgrading to.
Overall. I've found that there isn't a lot separating both these phones when it comes to the main camera and the telephoto lens that is. Actually, just a little difference, I find that the S9 Plus took pictures that were
slightly more detailed and the high dynamic range on the S9 Plus was also a little better. The pictures taken with the S9 Plus were also more vivid and saturated but whether or not you like that, would depend on personal preference.
Now, where the S10 Plus shines, is the ultra wide camera, the S9 Plus doesn't have that at all, so in that area the S10 Plus wins hands down, capable of capturing nearly as much as the eyes can see, and of course it's generally more fun to shoot landscape images with that ultra wide camera.
Another area the S10 Plus wins in is Video stabilisation at 1080p, trust me when I say the video is really stable.
If video stabilisation and ultra wide images aren't of any interest to you, then, the S9 Plus in my opinion shoots better images so there's no point in upgrading, otherwise if you want something that's versatile go ahead and upgrade to the S10 Plus.
You can either take my word for it or watch the video below, you'll find that everything I said above is mentioned in the video so it isn't mandatory to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993mzj7aeiw
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I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS

Terry.666 said:
I'm an enthusiast photographer with currently the Canon EOS 5DSR, I'm not making a lot of pictures with my phone except at work (another story )
When I received my 9+ last year, as I had heard so many good words about the camera, I test it in a shopping mall garage and it was impressive for a phone...
After that I used it indoors at work with very good results but when It tried in dark/night shots it was regrettable at least (Lot of noise)...
I received my 10+ last Thursday and Friday night I tried 2 night shots in normal view and one in tele, they where the same as 9+ with MAYBE a REALLY slight improvement...
I haven't try the super-wide yet but I will! I agree that if the reason to upgrade your phone is the camera maybe the PIXEL 3 will be better choice as it have some really impressive effects in camera... I really hope someone port the PIXEL 3 camera to my EXYNOS
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Yep, the Pixel 3 is great for taking pictures at night, the Huawei Mate 20 Pro also takes really great shots at night.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S11, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S11 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I love my S20U no matter what they said.
The only things that still bother me to this day are the price, the focusing issue in low-light (with the telephoto sensor and with the main camera, shooting closely to the object), the lack of 90 hz option, the palm rejection feature, and the dull colour options.

I love my S20 Plus 5G. Coming from S8 Plus, s20 is a logical "evolution". Pretty similar but better in many small things.

Coming from a S9+ I feel that the S20 Ultra is not worth the asking price.
The camera might be better on paper but picture quality (panoramas in particular) and perception of performance (Chrome tends to hang for a few seconds every now and then) are a downgrade.
The big screen is nice and having an optical zoom is a decent add-on as well, but these aren't features unique to this phone.
When taking into account that this is the very high end offering of Samsung, I am left to wonder whether I should have skipped this year's phones.

Camera software needs sorting to sharpen pictures but otherwise a great phone

Had the phone for about a month and I absolutely love everything about my S20 ultra except for focus on the main lens.

The phone camera is horrible. My 7 year old phone takes better pictures. I have not seen an update that improves the quality. Unfortunately, it degrades the phone to the level of a 10 year old phone or possibly the level of the first phone that came out with a camera, however many years ago was that. I bought it for the memory and additional application processing capacity but little did I know it does not come with a camera, the one installed is worthless.

What about the S20 Plus? I read Ultra was the one to have focus issues.

It absolutely does and it is useless as a camera.

mwyarm said:
It absolutely does and it is useless as a camera.
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But the S20+ is good right?

Droid9684 said:
But the S20+ is good right?
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Focus issues were with the ultra; my s20+ has perfect focus and takes great pics.

Before the A12 OneUI 4 update, I actually hated this phone because of the barrage of issues I had with it on A11, especially battery life and camera performance. Now with A12, I like this phone more than I did when I initially bought it. I like watching movies on my phone, and A12 added a new feature where you can watch AV1 encoded videos, which is really nice! Overall, this phone is great besides battery life if you're a heavy user.

Disappointed in the camera

I've just got the Note 10+ 5G coming from a Huawei Mate 20 Pro and the camera on this is disappointing to say the least. I haven't tested it in good lighting conditions, but in low light the Mate 20 Pro wipes the floor with this.
I can't actually believe just how big the difference is. Unless I'm doing something wrong? For a start, I can't find where you set the resolution of the cameras. Or can you not select it?

I also coming from Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 3 XL. And also not very happy with the camera. Yes, Mate 20 Pro is better at night indeed but not at day time. Pixel 3 XL seems took better pictures most of the time . Apart from that, the phone overall is much better that anything I had before.

I have an 11 pro max and n10+. I brought both to my brothers house on Christmas to take photos of my family. I used the iPhone and note side by side. The note absolutely couldn’t handle trying to catch my nephew in motion. I used the iPhone for most of the night and every shot was beautiful and not grainy in medium light. Not pleased with the note camera at all.

dooku77 said:
I have an 11 pro max and n10+. I brought both to my brothers house on Christmas to take photos of my family. I used the iPhone and note side by side. The note absolutely couldn’t handle trying to catch my nephew in motion. I used the iPhone for most of the night and every shot was beautiful and not grainy in medium light. Not pleased with the note camera at all.
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That's the main reason I sold my wifes S10+ and bought a Pixel 4. Nearly impossible to take pics of people while moving.
I have the same setup with the Note 10+ and the iPhone 11 pro Max. I use the iPhone for photos much more often than the Samsung.

AllTheWay said:
That's the main reason I sold my wifes S10+ and bought a Pixel 4. Nearly impossible to take pics of people while moving.
I have the same setup with the Note 10+ and the iPhone 11 pro Max. I use the iPhone for photos much more often than the Samsung.
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I’m getting ready to return the n10+.

Lol

I agree. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes better photos indoors than my Note 10 +. During the day there's little difference but indoor photos are blurry if anyone moves even slightly on the N10+. It seems like with each update it has gotten worse but it could just be because I have been taking more photos in different places because of the holidays and never noticed that it was that bad.

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I’m getting ready to return the n10+.
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I returned mine the day after Christmas because it blurred and softened all the pics I took while the family was unwrapping presents. I went back to the Pixel 4XL.

ajsmsg78 said:
I agree. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes better photos indoors than my Note 10 +. During the day there's little difference but indoor photos are blurry if anyone moves even slightly on the N10+. It seems like with each update it has gotten worse but it could just be because I have been taking more photos in different places because of the holidays and never noticed that it was that bad.
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Interesting, I actually had this issue with the OP 7 Pro. If subjects were completely still, I'd do ok and get them in the shot nicely, but as soon as there was movement, or it came time to take pictures of people at night, it did pretty bad.

knife2240 said:
I returned mine the day after Christmas because it blurred and softened all the pics I took while the family was unwrapping presents. I went back to the Pixel 4XL.
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I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.

I've cleared the camera app data, reset the camera settings and wiped the cache partition and after restarting the phone it seems to have sorted itself out.
I'll do some more testing and see how it performs now.

dooku77 said:
I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.
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I might try the S11 but I am definitely going to wait until others report back. The two best cameras this year are the Pixel 4 and Iphone 11 pro max. I had the pro max for almost two weeks and the camera is great but returned it because of ios being so restrictive. If it wasn't for that I would have kept it. The flat screen, build quality and camera are top notch.
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I've cleared the camera app data, reset the camera settings and wiped the cache partition and after restarting the phone it seems to have sorted itself out.
I'll do some more testing and see how it performs now.
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My issue with the camera comes when the lighting isn't the best and the subject is moving. If the lighting is in full daylight it works great besides over smoothing with the processing. I really hope Samsung fixes all this with the S11. If not I will look elsewhere.

I totally agree with all of you. If my grandson moves even just a little picture is very very blurry. And forget about taking pictures while my son is playing basketball.
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dooku77 said:
I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.
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I know exactly how you feel. I have a 7 week old and a 22 month old. I need those pictures to be perfect to capture there moments. Perfect example for today. My wife and I took out eldest son to the park. He was on the swing and she was able to capture our son swinging in live focus or portrait mode or whatever you want to call it perfectly with 0 blur on her Pixel 4. I know my Note 10+ would not be able to do that.

AllTheWay said:
I know exactly how you feel. I have a 7 week old and a 22 month old. I need those pictures to be perfect to capture there moments. Perfect example for today. My wife and I took out eldest son to the park. He was on the swing and she was able to capture our son swinging in live focus or portrait mode or whatever you want to call it perfectly with 0 blur on her Pixel 4. I know my Note 10+ would not be able to do that.
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For today’s lunch with family, my 11 pro max captured everything with zero blur and wonderful lighting. I brought along the Note on a little tripod to take photos of all of us and use the stylus as the shutter button. One photo and I was disappointed.

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Interesting, I actually had this issue with the OP 7 Pro. If subjects were completely still, I'd do ok and get them in the shot nicely, but as soon as there was movement, or it came time to take pictures of people at night, it did pretty bad.
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It seems like as OnePlus updated the camera got better and as Samsung updated the camera got worse. It's very strange.

You guys need to learn to use pro mode on the camera.
The pictures in bad light looks good!
I know the Mate does better pure night shots and that's ok, but the Note is pretty good when using the right settings.

lyzgaard said:
You guys need to learn to use pro mode on the camera.
The pictures in bad light looks good!
I know the Mate does better pure night shots and that's ok, but the Note is pretty good when using the right settings.
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I know how to use Pro Mode on the camera but it makes no difference on my Note 10 +, pics indoors still don't come out all that good.

ajsmsg78 said:
I know how to use Pro Mode on the camera but it makes no difference on my Note 10 +, pics indoors still don't come out all that good.
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All of the 2019 Samsungs choose a lower shutter speed vs my 4XL and P30 for any given scene this is IMO why they struggle with any movement at all. I sold my Note 10+ before Christmas but picked up a second hand S10 as I found one in Cardinal red! Camera between the two is pretty much identical. Pro mode and effectively shooting in shutter priority helps a little but then you then get a little more of that Samsung smoothing plus you cannot do this if you want to use night mode. I just think that Samsung used the same main camera hardware this year as they did with the S9 and we are paying the price.
A good example below of my cat over Christmas, S10, P30 Pro and 4XL. Pixel and P30 are close the Samsung way behind, not like the cat was jumping around either. Samsung is the first one

I haven't had time yet to proper play with all settings, but why don't you guys use gcam if you're not happy with the Samsung camera app.
I've got the note10+ 5g and am still on latest android 9 patch as 10 update isn't out for my 5g version yet.
Both with Samsung camera and gcam I don't get blurry pictures when trying to catch my 5 year old twins when they're jumping up and down. Believe me, they will NOT sit still for anything, let alone a picture. Although gcam seems to edge it slightly on the no blur front.
So maybe give that a whirl.

S20U have big software problem?

Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best

Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.

FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.

If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.

I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.

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If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).

Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.

isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
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About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you