Future security update support - Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Questions & Answers

Hello, I'm new here and couldn't find an existing thread for this question. Is it likely there will be a way to continue to get Android security patches/updates after Xiaomi discontinues support for this model (which may only last for 2 years according to https://www.mi.com/global/service/support/security-update.html)? Thank you.

Custom roms would be your best bet, they tend to continue support way after official ends

Thanks, will look into that.

Xiaomi will eventually end support yeah. When that happens, you should be able to unlock the bootloader and install an AOSP based ROM. Development will be extremely mature by that time so it will probably be an even better experience than the stock firmware

Great, good to know, thanks.

Dobsgw said:
Xiaomi will eventually end support yeah. When that happens, you should be able to unlock the bootloader and install an AOSP based ROM. Development will be extremely mature by that time so it will probably be an even better experience than the stock firmware
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I agree. Even now, with first few roms available experience is great!

Related

willing to put in on bounty for getting custom stock kernel on unlocked variants?

I love lg stock roms but love to have more control of the kernel and was hoping we could get a bounty to get a great kernel dev like dorimanx or if you guys have any other great devs in mind...G4 is a great device and I'm more than willing to donate if anyone is interested...Thanks!
There is already an early stock custom kernal available. dev is working on the Cyanogenmod Rom also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/h815-tornadorx-r1-t3179317
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
There is already an early stock custom kernal available. dev is working on the Cyanogenmod Rom also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/h815-tornadorx-r1-t3179317
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I have h811 T-Mobile...nothing in the works yet afaik...hoping to find a dev to build for all unlocked models and who is willing to add support for devices that get unlock/workaround down the line
jamesd1085 said:
I have h811 T-Mobile...nothing in the works yet afaik...hoping to find a dev to build for all unlocked models and who is willing to add support for devices that get unlock/workaround down the line
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Fair enough, I didn't know you had the H811. Though I'm sure Mythops234 will be more than willing to look at other devices once CyanogenMod is into at least a beta state. Why not send him a PM.
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
Fair enough, I didn't know you had the H811. Though I'm sure Mythops234 will be more than willing to look at other devices once CyanogenMod is into at least a beta state. Why not send him a PM.
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I might talk to him once cm stabilty comes...they are busy enough without me asking more of them
When I get home from Saudi Arabia I can put together a nice stock custom kernel. It was on my list of things to do, but I have been hung up on getting a deodexed rom base going. Its proving to be a major pain in the ass. 64 bit isn't being very cooperative and coupled with the weird mounts and other generally weird crap with this phone afaik everyone working on traditional zip flashable roms are running into the same issues. I suppose I can put that on the back burner and make a kernel... I wont be home for another week or 2 though.
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LineageOS developers wanted

Seeing as this phone finally has bootloader unlock available, how do we go about getting some capable devs to begin supporting LineageOS for this phone?
Was the launch botched enough that there just isn't any dev interest?
I'm thinking so, It's been out a while now, no bootloader unlock and we're still (570KL) waiting for nougat.
I believe a lot of devs are waiting for the bigger better releases due out in a month or 3....
ASUS may very well have killed off dev interest before this great piece of hardware was fully recognised by our community....
Duplicated thread
jsheradin said:
Seeing as this phone finally has bootloader unlock available, how do we go about getting some capable devs to begin supporting LineageOS for this phone?
Was the launch botched enough that there just isn't any dev interest?
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shakalaca may release in this week, but it was still in alpha phase.It might have many problems.news of lineage 14.1 for zenfone 3

TWRP, Dev support ++ for the OP7T in future

Times are changing for oneplus. Seems like software support will be worse in the years coming.
I love my oneplus 7T. It's nearly the perfect phone for me. Right now I'm on the latest open beta, rooted with arter97 kernel. Amazing experience. Could easily keep this phone for many more years to come..
But.. If official updates is lacking, we need proper ROMs, and a functional twrp and good dev support. Is there any chance this will change in the future? Or is official twrp dead?
To the developer community out there, please correct me if I'm wrong.
The biggest obstacle to a "functional TWRP" is the decryption issue that OnePlus will hopefully address. If that gets resolved, we should see the ROM community take off. I agree that the 7T is a phenomenal phone and damned near perfect. That being said, I'd give almost anything to see Paranoid Android on this phone!
Twrp works to flash roms. Try looking into GSI for now since the twrp we have now does not support oos backup but we have a few roms guys.
What is a proper ROM according to you?
There are very stables ROM in the development section.
And you don't need TWRP at all. Convenient sure, but absolutely not needed.
brisseau said:
To the developer community out there, please correct me if I'm wrong.
The biggest obstacle to a "functional TWRP" is the decryption issue that OnePlus will hopefully address. If that gets resolved, we should see the ROM community take off. I agree that the 7T is a phenomenal phone and damned near perfect. That being said, I'd give almost anything to see Paranoid Android on this phone!
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You can push the zip to /cache and flash fine. TWRP is not the reason for 'lack' development. An *actual* dev would have been able to build a ROM without any need of TWRP.
There are already good ROMs here in XDA, and you can find more on Telegram.
That being said, TWRP has made lots of progress on Android 10 and 11. Dynamic partitions should be fully handled, and fastbootd tools should be working too.
Just sync the sources alongside mauronofrios tree and test away.
As said upper, twrp is not an issue for devs, neither for us to flash roms
Amount of roms simply relies on the amount of people having this device. As OP released several phones (7, 7T, 7 pro), it seems normal we have less roms.
As a counterpart, Android's updates make it more easy to port roms, and most devices now share bigger part of dev tree.
AFAIK Paranoid Android 11 was just released on 8 & 8T.
7 & 7T will follow pretty soon, just be patient. Not every dev team has all devices to build up roms.
By the way, such topic won't change anything, maybe try financially supporting devs or learning to port roms by yourself.

Question Has anyone tried GSI on Alioth yet?

I'm still waiting for my K40... And need to wait for the unlock...
Was wonder if anyone has tried GSI ROM yet? Phh's AOSP etc?
I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently.
Why do you want a GSI? Is there a specific ROM that's missing that you want to flash?
Robert314 said:
I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently
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I'd love to try that too... My item has arrived at the custom, should read me tomorrow. Can't wait to try it... My first 5G phone.
Robert314 said:
I haven't. However the android 12 pre release GSI boots but the system UI keeps crashing apparently.
Why do you want a GSI? Is there a specific ROM that's missing that you want to flash?
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I prefer a more official release of ROM... No offend to any Devs... Just prefer a ROM I can stick to longer... Rather than one that stop maintaining and had to switch again and again... I've had a phone before... No official ROM... And someone making tonnes of ROMs, but none go official...
Prefer a close to native ROM... Or lighter ROM. AOSP/LOS.
I have only a laptop with 8GB RAM, also no knowledge to build my own ROM.
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I prefer a more official release of ROM... No offend to any Devs... Just prefer a ROM I can stick to longer... Rather than one that stop maintaining and had to switch again and again... I've had a phone before... No official ROM... And someone making tonnes of ROMs, but none go official...
Prefer a close to native ROM... Or lighter ROM. AOSP/LOS.
I have only a laptop with 8GB RAM, also no knowledge to build my own ROM.
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I think the same about the custom roms. I can recommend https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations which I used for other phones, but didnt try a GSI with poco f3 yet, need to wait for unlocking.
Btw unlock delay is so useless and only annoys customers. All shops where I looked for the poco f3 sold it unlocked for +30€.
peterteter said:
I think the same about the custom roms. I can recommend https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations which I used for other phones, but didnt try a GSI with poco f3 yet, need to wait for unlocking.
Btw unlock delay is so useless and only annoys customers. All shops where I looked for the poco f3 sold it unlocked for +30€.
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I can understand why they do it, it's to stop the people sell the device on AliExpress, buying in bulk from the pre launch sale and install malwares on the device and ship out.
So the 7 days delay means they have to hold it in stock and make their business not very nice... Stock pilings.

Question [Poco F3] Is it worth changing over to the EU ROM over from Global ROM

I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
only one way to find out
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
Xyril07 said:
Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
I'm not sure if you can flash the Official EU ROM without having to unlock the bootloader. I think you can.
But for Xiaomi.eu you definitely need to unlock it. For me personally it was worth it, but I'm also very specific about my customisations and also always unlock & root my Android devices.
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
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Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
Xyril07 said:
Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
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Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
dreamytom said:
Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
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What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
CharlieMHz said:
What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
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Yup, on Xiaomi.eu that is the case.
However it only takes 3 minutes to flash the ROM and to reboot. That's literally it.
It's possible for a system to work together with a Custom Recovery, in order to automatically flash updates, but apparently in 2021, we haven't gotten there yet.
I've heard of some Vanilla Android Custom ROMs having fully automatic OTA-updates. AICP or crDroid I think? Not sure..
There's two option with Custom MIUI ROM ( Bare minimum modifications or else there is Highly modifiable MIUI ROM's like OneOS, MIUI MIX, Hellas MIUI, XTRV, MIUIVN, MI-Globe, etc. ) , Xiaomi.eu weekly beta update and a Xiaomi.eu Stable update which are both based on chinese beta and stable as the name suggests. Personally, I use the Weekly update and i have not found any issues for which i would consider it a deal breaker. I am Rooted and happy. I will never go back to Stock ROM because of how poor the battery life was. And also to factor the google dialer and messages app. I do not like it.
I agree with everything @Animesh Singh said, except the Battery life part.
dreamytom said:
Sì, su Xiaomi.eu è così.
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Ho sentito parlare di alcune ROM personalizzate Android Vanilla con aggiornamenti OTA completamente automatici. AICP o crDroid penso? Non sono sicuro..
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Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
pegasoc said:
Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
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lol why is it in italian
dreamytom said:
lol why is it in italian
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I apologize, I got confused with the translator.
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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If you really like to more Google default apps than MIUI default apps such as Phone, Messages, Google Discover, etc. then changing from Global ROM to EU ROM from official MIUI site is good to go. Unlock the bootloader first then you can flash the EU ROM. Otherwise just stick with Global ROM, everything is same from performance, battery life, etc. But then again if you prefer a Custom ROM based on MIUI, then MIUI EU from Xiaomi-EU is better, it has better stability and more features as well since it is from Chinese ROM which always release earlier features and bug-fix improvement than the official MIUI ROM. Hope this help
You can check all xiaomi.eu features from the link below (scroll down a bit).
MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
STABLE RELEASE RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Notable features for me are:
Increased volume in headphones after some tweaking in sound settings, better standby and battery life, wallpaper carousel (it has an anime category in xiaomi.eu), better theme store imo because of the AOD category which i couldn't find in the global but most of the stuff is in chinese so it might not be as appealing for everyone, no ads etc
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
causeway said:
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
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I have read somewhere that xiaomi.eu have some significant better stuff, i think it was on reddit. I ordered mine yesterday, my Poco F3 comes with the Global ROM so i am also thinking on flashing it to xiaomi.eu or to the Official EU ROM, i am still thinking more about changing to the EU ROM other than xiaomi.eu since it's official and it's the first time i am thinking about flahing a phone, is it possible to change from official Global ROM to official EU ROM and if so, do you know how can i do it?
I personnly wouldnt bother still got bloat like virus scanner pretty sure it Avast with a diffrent stamp dont care for the music and video apps to much bloat , the themes app sucks to ,, gonna flash something make it worth your while like Arrow

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