Question Google Camera (GCam) for Moto G60? - Moto G40 / G60

This phone's camera is trash, especially in night time. Not that I believe more mega pixels = better quality; but I was under the impression that the larger sensor behind 108 MP should collects more light and give better night time photos. The sensor is probably fine, but Moto's image processing is crap.
I tried a Google Camera version meant for Moto G 5G with 48 MP primary camera. The results are still bad.
Is there any specific GCam version for this phone right now?

I was planning to buy it for the 108MP camera and My UX, should I consider getting the Realme 8 pro or a different device instead? Not going for the redmi because of their embarrassingly bad MIUI.

I bought this phone for the UI which is closer to AOSP. So far the performance and UI are pretty good and refreshing to use after using MIUI for years. Battery is pretty good as well.
I still hope a proper Google Camera version optimized for this phone would improve the image quality by a huge margin as it's the same sensor used in Redmi Note 10 Pro (Max).
I have never used Realme phones, so can't recommend one. I'm sick of Redmi phones as well because of their crappy MIUI and tried a Moto phone for the first time.

Thank you for your reply! I would be very grateful if you could answer a few more of my questions about this device:
What would you consider some pros and cons of buying this as of now?
Does the 120hz screen make a significant difference?
Have you noticed any differences in normal video quality and HDR10?
If you've used an AMOLED display phone before, have you noticed any significant difference between both?
Thank you in advance!

I had some luck using the Gcam "GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V3.1.1". I don't know if we're able to post links here, but just google that and you'll be able to find. I'm trying to build a config file for G60, but i have no previous experience so i'm having a hard time.

shivansh68 said:
Thank you for your reply! I would be very grateful if you could answer a few more of my questions about this device:
What would you consider some pros and cons of buying this as of now?
Does the 120hz screen make a significant difference?
Have you noticed any differences in normal video quality and HDR10?
If you've used an AMOLED display phone before, have you noticed any significant difference between both?
Thank you in advance!
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I recently bought it, you won't notice significant difference in 60 and 120 hz refresh rates but touch input rate makes pointer to follow quick.
Display is good you'll mostly notice diffrence between amoled and lcd at night.
I'm very attracted towards stock android no lags no glitches no mi or samsung or Microsoft's crappy apps I'm very happy with the phone. It's a chonky boy

z1_nile said:
I recently bought it, you won't notice significant difference in 60 and 120 hz refresh rates but touch input rate makes pointer to follow quick.
Display is good you'll mostly notice diffrence between amoled and lcd at night.
I'm very attracted towards stock android no lags no glitches no mi or samsung or Microsoft's crappy apps I'm very happy with the phone. It's a chonky boy
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Try this gcam

ERAAF said:
Try this gcam
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Link please

Gcam For Moto G60
Apk: Gcam 7.3 urnyx05 v2.1 wichaya v3
Configs/xml

The refresh rate does make a difference. Once you use this and go back to 60 hz it can hard to bear. It was for me. But most midrange phones these days have atleast 90hz which is fine

I have a G30(11k) and G40 fusion(14k)
G40 fusion is miles ahead in performance, stability, and features
When it comes to refresh rate, the difference between 120hz and 90hz is noticeable, at least to my eyes

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thinking to buy mi max- screen quality doubt...

As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
regards
I ordered a Xiaomi Mi Max last weekend after reading the review linked below, the most incredibly comprehensive review I've ever seen of a smartphone. I'm still waiting on the phone, it is still being shuffled about China, so I can't give my own opinion of the screen yet.
Read review here:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1239-xiaomi-mi-max/
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
ivanox1972 said:
As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
regards
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Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
audscott said:
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
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Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
Wondering what do you guys expect from a under $300 phone... It has plenty for that price already.
thanks guys, it is not problem in expecting much for low money. I had almost all samsung flagships in last few years (s4, s6, note 1, note 3, note 4, now note 5). I want big screen- and is there better solution?
Huawei have some but software is terrible for my opinion... and no development at all...
I will, if buy max, install cm first minute- so how it works is there any major problem (autobrightness or big battery drain). Camera is last important for me...
ajsmsg78 said:
Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
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would you provide the link of this app?
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auldthief said:
Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
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you can try manual camera app to set shutter speed as high as possible to shot moving objects
hes_luckey said:
would you provide the link of this app?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.omegacentauri.red&hl=en
They have a free version and a pro version. I bought the pro version.
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
ivanox1972 said:
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
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Yes it can be adjusted. It's honestly not that bad even without adjustments.
Nothing wrong with the screen. I have never thought about wanting to calibrate it. I don't think it has a blue cast. My XA Ultra on the other hand...
I use the glare removal reading setting for apps that I spend a long time looking at. It adds a yellowish cast to the screen. I suffer insomnia so blue light is a concern for me. My sleep hasn't been great since buying the max but that's entirely due to not being able to put it down! I use twilight also to counter blue light at night.
I bought my Max (3/32) from Xiaomi Authorized store, and wanna say, it's not bluish! BUT, my friend got the "best" version, and the screen of his phone is... little yellow-ish, or something like that. He got his phone from Gearbest, that's what i know. Before Mi Max i used another phones with 6,44" screen size - Sony Z Ultra's. Every phone (i replaced 3) had differently calibrated screen. The best way is to get phone and (if you don't like calibration) tune screen for your preferences. We all have little different eyes.
Reviews really not like this screen, but ok.
I would go on cm13 of course: how is camera quality and autobrighness there?
Every phone has this problem on cm...
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
F27 said:
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
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tianma r63350 1080p video mode dsi panel
Is kcal calibrating screen apk supported on cm 13- cm14? I do not know is it working on snapdragon 650/ 652?
Or any other app generally, how big improvement can be made on screen picture quality?
thanks

How is Mi Mix 2 in comparison to G6 ?

Hello Everybody
I am planning to jumpship to Xioami Mi Mix 2 from LG G6.
I am mainly switching to Mi Mix 2 for the screen and can be in bleeding edge in terms of MiUI updates.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
This question should be answered only from LG G6 perspective and not in general.
raddy said:
Hello Everybody
I am planning to jumpship to Xioami Mi Mix 2 from LG G6.
I am mainly switching to Mi Mix 2 for the screen and can be in bleeding edge in terms of MiUI updates.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
This question should be answered only from LG G6 perspective and not in general.
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I actually did it about 2 weeks ago, I had the Korean version of the G6 with the Quad-DAC, so here goes my experience:
Why I like the LG G6:
- A lot easier to handle, I have regular size hands and the Mi Mix 2 is a bit wide, without a curved back, it doesn't feel that comfortable IMO.
- It has a headphone jack and with the Quad-DAC built in, wow it's miles better then the Mi Mix 2
- Wide angle, I miss that feature, it's just awesome taking wide angle pics
- Main Camera is just a bit better than the Mi Mix 2 in low light
Why I DON'T like the LG G6:
- Horrible selfie Cam, I'm not a big fan of selfies, but when I did take them with my kids, they were awful.
- Very slow updates
- The Korean Version has a locked bootloader without a way to unlock it.
- Lags sometimes just navigating the UI
Why I like the Mi Mix:
- Amazing design and build quality
- Very fast in day to day task (UFS 2.1)
- Good main camera (Good not great )
- Some dev support for custom ROMs
- Quick updates, especially if you use MIUI Beta/Dev ROMs
- Very Fast charging (almost at the same level of the OP5)
Why I DON'T like the Mi Mix:
- No headphone jack, it annoys me a lot when I have to charge the phone and I can't use my earphones when it's charging.
- MIUI still does not handle notification as well as Stock Android (One example: on the lock screen, the user cannot interact with them, like you can on most other Android skins or stock)
- Mine came with Chinese version of the MIUI, so it was a bit of a pain to get the bootloader unlocked, had to install a VPN to pretend I was in China, then request the permission, then wait 72h and finally plug in to a Windows PC, not Linux or MAC, Windows only and run Xiaomi unlock tool).
- I'm on the MOKEE Rom, but there are still bugs on AOSP based ROMs =(
- GCam port still not very stable
So, these are my Pros and Cons for these two devices, now you have to see if it's worth it for you, in my opinion, I'm happy with the Mi MIX 2, the design and unlocked bootloader with some Dev support, these are big pluses for me, so I'm ok for now with the Mi MIX 2, but I do miss that Quad-DAC and wide angle camera
Hope this helped, have a good one =)
Thanks for your detailed comparison.
It could not have done better as I can relate with you closely.
I have also locked boot loader and I have also normal sized hands.
I can understand most of the points but only one point surprised me from your comparison.
You have mentioned that G6 front camera as very poor but I am reading Mix 2 camera as such elsewhere.
Can you tell me how is Mix 2s front camera ?
Last but not least are you having a feeling in Mi Mix 2 as using a finished product?
Lack of updates is the only cons in LGG6 in my opinion.
But I think I cannot have a sense of feeling in using completed product.
Screen resolution also is considerably less in Mix2 and weight is also little more.
raddy said:
Thanks for your detailed comparison.
It could not have done better as I can relate with you closely.
I have also locked boot loader and I have also normal sized hands.
I can understand most of the points but only one point surprised me from your comparison.
You have mentioned that G6 front camera as very poor but I am reading Mix 2 camera as such elsewhere.
Can you tell me how is Mix 2s front camera ?
Last but not least are you having a feeling in Mi Mix 2 as using a finished product?
Lack of updates is the only cons in LGG6 in my opinion.
But I think I cannot have a sense of feeling in using completed product.
Screen resolution also is considerably less in Mix2 and weight is also little more.
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The Mi MIX 2 front camera is a bit better, not by much, but it's better.
The MIX 2 does feel like a complete product, IF you use the Official MIUI Global Rom, it's just the way MIUI handles notifications that puts me off using it, the Oreo beta of MIUI improved a bit, but from the lock screen, you can't still interact with the notifications and AOSP ROMs are fine for a daily use, some minor issues and camera quality declines a bit, still waiting on a stable GCam port.
The the screen is very good, in my opinion 1080p and 1440p in day to day use are the same, you can't see the difference, apart from the resolution difference between these two devices, there is not much difference, colour reproduction is pretty much the same and it can get very bright, great quality screen on the Mi MIX 2.
It is a bit heavy, on my journey home, on a 30min train ride, I have to swap hand half way, because it starts to feel a bit uncomfortable on the wrist.
hugoprh said:
The Mi MIX 2 front camera is a bit better, not by much, but it's better.
The MIX 2 does feel like a complete product, IF you use the Official MIUI Global Rom, it's just the way MIUI handles notifications that puts me off using it, the Oreo beta of MIUI improved a bit, but from the lock screen, you can't still interact with the notifications and AOSP ROMs are fine for a daily use, some minor issues and camera quality declines a bit, still waiting on a stable GCam port.
The the screen is very good, in my opinion 1080p and 1440p in day to day use are the same, you can't see the difference, apart from the resolution difference between these two devices, there is not much difference, colour reproduction is pretty much the same and it can get very bright, great quality screen on the Mi MIX 2.
It is a bit heavy, on my journey home, on a 30min train ride, I have to swap hand half way, because it starts to feel a bit uncomfortable on the wrist.
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How is the battery life ?
I heard that battery life is not as good as G6.
And i heard that front camera cannot be used easily in 3rd party camera and video chatting applications.
Have you tried using front camera in 3rd party applications ?
raddy said:
How is the battery life ?
I heard that battery life is not as good as G6.
And i heard that front camera cannot be used easily in 3rd party camera and video chatting applications.
Have you tried using front camera in 3rd party applications ?
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Battery seems to be the same for me, getting pretty much the same use as I was with the G6, so don't feel like an upgrade or downgrade here.
The only third party app I use is Skype and that app support 360 rotation, so no issues here, but from what I've heard, snapchat does not support it.
hugoprh said:
I actually did it about 2 weeks ago, I had the Korean version of the G6 with the Quad-DAC, so here goes my experience:
Why I like the LG G6:
- A lot easier to handle, I have regular size hands and the Mi Mix 2 is a bit wide, without a curved back, it doesn't feel that comfortable IMO.
- It has a headphone jack and with the Quad-DAC built in, wow it's miles better then the Mi Mix 2
- Wide angle, I miss that feature, it's just awesome taking wide angle pics
- Main Camera is just a bit better than the Mi Mix 2 in low light
Why I DON'T like the LG G6:
- Horrible selfie Cam, I'm not a big fan of selfies, but when I did take them with my kids, they were awful.
- Very slow updates
- The Korean Version has a locked bootloader without a way to unlock it.
- Lags sometimes just navigating the UI
Why I like the Mi Mix:
- Amazing design and build quality
- Very fast in day to day task (UFS 2.1)
- Good main camera (Good not great )
- Some dev support for custom ROMs
- Quick updates, especially if you use MIUI Beta/Dev ROMs
- Very Fast charging (almost at the same level of the OP5)
Why I DON'T like the Mi Mix:
- No headphone jack, it annoys me a lot when I have to charge the phone and I can't use my earphones when it's charging.
- MIUI still does not handle notification as well as Stock Android (One example: on the lock screen, the user cannot interact with them, like you can on most other Android skins or stock)
- Mine came with Chinese version of the MIUI, so it was a bit of a pain to get the bootloader unlocked, had to install a VPN to pretend I was in China, then request the permission, then wait 72h and finally plug in to a Windows PC, not Linux or MAC, Windows only and run Xiaomi unlock tool).
- I'm on the MOKEE Rom, but there are still bugs on AOSP based ROMs =(
- GCam port still not very stable
So, these are my Pros and Cons for these two devices, now you have to see if it's worth it for you, in my opinion, I'm happy with the Mi MIX 2, the design and unlocked bootloader with some Dev support, these are big pluses for me, so I'm ok for now with the Mi MIX 2, but I do miss that Quad-DAC and wide angle camera
Hope this helped, have a good one =)
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Gcam is fully stable.
overcustom said:
Gcam is fully stable.
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Please tell me how, I've tried a few different versions of GCAM and I can't get tap to focus to work. I'm now on Andy's Lineage OS.
hugoprh said:
Please tell me how, I've tried a few different versions of GCAM and I can't get tap to focus to work. I'm now on Andy's Lineage OS.
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It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.
overcustom said:
It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.
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Cool, thanks I'll try it out, shame it's only in MIUI =/
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It seems gcam is not fully working on AOSP based ROMs.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu 8.2.1, and it is fully stable, with portrait mode working both in rear and front camera.
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Just tried this and still tap to focus does not work, tried a couple of GCAM and both are not working fully. What version of the GCAM are you using?
hugoprh said:
Just tried this and still tap to focus does not work, tried a couple of GCAM and both are not working fully. What version of the GCAM are you using?
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GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V5.apk
also consider that mi mix 2 has no rds radio fm and ir remote control hardware. That's big disadvantages for me

Mi 8 Lite Pros and Cons

Pros
Solid build with glass back and aluminum side frames.
Generally fine display with slightly above average brightness and excellent color reproduction in "Standard mode".
Good all-round camera experience with small inconsistencies.
Great performance with the Snapdragon 660 chipset.
Loud speaker and good audio output quality.
Plenty of features provided by Xiaomi's MIUI software, expect swift updates to the latest version.
Cons
Ergonomics might be an issue for users with small hands.
No 3.5mm jack.
Battery life could be better.
EIS in 4K video isn't good, Auto HDR mode needs improvement, portrait shots are largely inconsistent.
pros :
looks beautiful and feels very good to use and it's well built
i have the black one but i think it looks beautiful too
unlockable bootloader
the speakes are loud and sound good like you mentioned in op
really good specs and performance for it's price
cons :
the bootloader unlock wait time is ridiculous
miui is full of tracking and ads
the stock camera app is trash (i think the hardware is fine but it's just the software and the
image processing is what's holding it back)
notch (it got less annoying with usage)
no headphone jack
Cons
I got a little bit back colors around the bang
My device was bought from china
Pro
Battery is good enough .
Camera is good too
Speaker is loudly
cons:
- XDA Forum dont exist
- MIUI Ads
- not exactly a con, but the headphone jack
- MIUI icons, too square for my taste (thinking to change the launcher, not sure yet)
pro
- battery life
- the camera software is good enough, i love the manual option
- FULL FULL FULL SCREEN, NO BUTTONS
- connectivity
Please add a dedicated forum for MI 8 Lite !
Yeah, please own dedicated forum. Pie is coming!
+1 for own section!
malek_anas_97 said:
pros :
looks beautiful and feels very good to use and it's well built
i have the black one but i think it looks beautiful too
unlockable bootloader
the speakes are loud and sound good like you mentioned in op
really good specs and performance for it's price
cons :
the bootloader unlock wait time is ridiculous
miui is full of tracking and ads
the stock camera app is trash (i think the hardware is fine but it's just the software and the
image processing is what's holding it back)
notch (it got less annoying with usage)
no headphone jack
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I agree with you camera app is awful I saw camera sample with gcam and image quality much better I have to unlocked my bootloader
daniyal62 said:
I agree with you camera app is awful I saw camera sample with gcam and image quality much better I have to unlocked my bootloader
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Which gcam are you using?
pravsterrr said:
Which gcam are you using?
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i can not use gccam for now i have to wait for 2 weeks so i can unlocked my bootloader and install gcam
Pros
Screen with little notch for a Xiaomi phone
Good Snapdragon 660
Good frontal camera
Good rear main camera
Very thin
Very elegant
Cons
The battery could be a 4000mAh
People can miss the 3.5mm audio
Lack of Camera2 Api enabled
It's a solid phone. I think that the real thing that is missing is the Camera2 Api because the phone has very capables frontal and hear sensors. With a GCam the results would be the same as big brothers as Mi 8, Poco F1 and Mi Mix 2S/3.
Anyone having trouble enabling camera2 api? My front camera won't work on other apps??/
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Anyone having trouble enabling camera2 api? My front camera won't work on other apps??/
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you need to replace a file for fix front camera:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8-Lite/themes/mod-cam-raw-fix-gcam-t3879623
lack 3.5mm
battery is not good
Got the 6/128 global version about a week ago. I am in the USA and live away from any big city. While signal is not the best (doesn't matter device it is just distance from cell towers) I still get almost a full day of use (5-6 hrs SOT). I upgraded from a redmi note 4x and must say this device is way better even with a smaller battery.
Pros
Build quality
Looks
Screen size
Device size
Ram/storage
Charge speed
Sdcard slot
Cons
Notch
Single speaker on bottom
Bootloader unlock wait period
While some will not like lack of headphone jack I personally have not used wired headphones for 2+ years. My redmi note 4x had a jack and I never used it either. I find the processor and battery size combine to make it through a day on a charge. I am on 4g+ network with no wifi use.
Overall I would recommend this device if you are looking for a decent midrange device. This device will probably have more development support than the SD845 Mi 8 devices because of the price. Yet not as much as the cheaper redmi devices have.
Hello, sorry to ask but this is so important... Will mi 8 lite get android 10 or not?! I thing yes, but I saw few places that it wont get more that 9... So WTF is project terble?! Does any OEM used this feature?? Or it's just a word? With project treble we guessed every phone will receive 4/5 updates.. not just 1!! ? And also.. miui is **** on persian/arabic language and full of bugs.. but beautiful and not bad. So please answer.
Hi, I'm new here. I am probably gonna buy the phone this week. But I have no idea about camera. I most likely will be using a custom rom. My question is can I get gcam fully working? And how is the camera in low light with stock and gcam?
pros:
Very fast, barely any lag on any apps.
MUIU is nice, but I still prefer Apex Launcher over it.
Bootloader unlockable without voiding warranty (although not an easy task).
Outstanding battery life. I am getting 2 days on a single charge.
cons:
no NFC
no RAW mode on camera (very disappointing) #1 reason to unlock
no IR blaster
Very light phone (perhaps not a con, but makes me think the glass is probably thin)
Overall, it is so much nicer than my USC Galaxy S7, which is a complete PoS!
daniyal62 said:
I agree with you camera app is awful I saw camera sample with gcam and image quality much better I have to unlocked my bootloader
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Did you install the gcam without root?? After installing gcam can you use the front camera and make video calls on social media?
Pros:
Great/Big Screen
Good Battery/Charge Speed
Great Performance from SD660 in Menus/Apps/Games
Great Sounds from speaker (not the best but very satisfactory)
The MIUI skin is actually pretty cool, coming from MiA1 ofcourse
Great Camera performance both in light and night
Cons:
Still on 8.1 but update as it seems will come soon
No Camera2Api by default
No Headphone Jack (adapter for headphones included but still)
Microphone feels weaker compared to MiA1, maybe social apps have bad support for it because in camera i think it sounds better
Had the choice between this and MiA2 but trying them in the store, Mi 8 Lite had a bigger battery, bigger and better screen and most importantly sd card support. This was ofcourse my choice but it seemed like a no-brainer although Android One would be great.

A70 vs Oneplus 6T

I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
manus31 said:
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
CyberOvca said:
Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
manus31 said:
Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
vistaabalaji said:
Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
manus31 said:
Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
Glotttis said:
You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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Yes I believe this is true,the 675 is a great chip.I used a device with 660 and there was no problems whatsoever, Processors these days are typically great above the 660,
Still on the fence about the a70 though,have been looking at the reviews,many point out issues with the cameras,front and back
Would need these to be great if I'm gonna swap my 6T which has been performing a lot better with Gcam
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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You're making the right decision I've had a 6T and A70 and the 6T has a much better camera specially in low light which is the real weak point of the A70. Megapixels are just numbers and doesn't say anything about camera quality. The camera and fingerprint sensor are the two weakest points of this phone. I didn't like the fingerprint reader even in the 6T as I found it annoying but this one is even worse and I rely on face unlock and only use fingerprints for authorization in banking apps etc. However screen is better and battery life is much better.
manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Yea,seems to be a bit of a disappointment overall for this phone,glad I didn't go for it,shame because on paper it seems ideal
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
OC-Freak said:
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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Hi,
Nice statement, but comparing a A70 and a mi9 SE is kind of pointless.
I don't think you can compare a 5.9" display phone with a 6.7" display phone.
Even if the rest is nearly identical.
Don't get me wrong.
I am a great Xiaomi fan.
If Xiaomi would have released a smartphone ABOVE 6.5" AND with a decent SoC, I would have gone for that immediatly.
But the only "phablet" in the Xiaomi range of products is the mi Max 3 (that I currently have) and that one does have a SD 636 and it has really horrible latency when you touch the display.
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Are you sure you have enabled fast charging in settings? Battery / Settings / Fast Charging With Cable.
Just a thought, mine charges from 10% to 100 % in about an hour and a half.
Do remember that 25w charging is only enabled when the screen is off or the AOD is activated. Whenever the screen is on, even on the lockscreen, it'll be limited to 6w.

S20U have big software problem?

Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
FinalBossJay said:
Not quite sure how you think most phones have a better camera but from someone who ACTUALLY has an S20U I can tell you this camera is fantastic. And with every update will continue to get better and better.
Feel free to not purchase it though. It isn't for everyone.
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Come on now. You know that's not exactly true. This phone has pretty serious camera issues, from poor optics to focus problems, etc. It's not a terrible camera, but it is not worth the price tag. Samsung has to do a lot more work on the software side to make it better. I've had the phone since launch and while updates did improve things, it still falls short compared to other flagships. Both iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 4 take better photos (I have those phones too), as does Note 10+ in most cases (I have it too for comparison). With that said, it is possible to take good photos with the S20 Ultra, so it's not all bad.
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
I'm one of the few people who buys phone not for the camera but making receiving calls, YouTube media consumption social networking camera is bottom of the list.
I think the camera and video is brilliant and better then most flagship. Its good for an average consumer use for expert photographers not to sure as don't know enough. The good thing is most of us aren't experts.
I prefer the s20 plus as its slimmer and has less protruding camera. Its better buy then huawei as g services are missing and better software and screen. Better then oppo due to mainly software and less curved screen. Oppo could have been my choice were it not for the curved screen. I hate that, most overrated and wasted tech.
Thats my rant and impression of Samsung s20.
Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville!
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That would make more sense than paying 17% more for a 6% larger screen. The battery is also 11% larger, but the plus is also lighter and thinner, especially at the camera bump. The cameras are the most significant difference between the two, it would only make sense for that to be the main motivating factor in paying the premium (especially considering the plus is tending to get marked down more).
Paul_Deemer said:
If anyone bought the Ultra Solely for the camera then that was Dumbassville! Other than the camera however The 120hz screen rocks, 5g works good depending on your coverage area. It's also a speedy phone. At least my US Unlocked 512gb version is. But if your buying the phone expecting a mobile photography studio like Samsung is hyping in their ads you can forget that BS now because that's what it is. Just plain BS! That is not to say the cameras can't take good pictures or the software won't get better. It just means if your expecting a DSLR or Wonder Miracle camera on a phone it ain't happening. There is a reason those $10,000 DSLR lenses take great night time photos and cost so much. You will never achieve that quality on a phone camera.
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The camera is literally the one reason to go for the Ultra vs. the Plus. Screen and battery size difference are insignificant in this decision, so no, Samsung does need to step up and make the Ultra worthy of its name. With that said, I am not expecting DSLR quality. I have a 5D Mark IV and some very high end lenses and know the difference. However, matching or beating the Pixel 4 series or the iPhone 11 Pro shouldn't be a problem for the camera setup on the Ultra, except Samsung botched the implementation badly.
isko01 said:
Hi to all
I watch so many YT videos about camera comparison and see so many bad things about S20U camera. Is that because still camera software in beta or it is just what S20U is?
I watch S20U vs:
- Note 10 Plus,
- Huawei P40 Pro,
- Xiaomo Mi10,
- Iphone 11 Pro
And yes S20U have new big camera sensor but still they are no big improvements in night shoot's, astophotography, zoom, night videos, portret and etc.. And every phone have better camera in most situation. Whats wrong with S20U? Will Samsung fix this with software updates?
All the best
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Agree with you.
Pay 1400$ for S20U
- BATTERY not good than 11 pro max or oppo find x2 or p40 pro
- Exynos 990 so bad ( ex 990 < kirin 990 < sd 865)
- Camera can not take the moment well as iphone or other phone. Can't focus well, but photo and video day light is ok.
- screen ok but oppo find x2 pro's screen are better
Sorry for my bad english.
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About Camera:
Have S20 Ultra hardware that can improve with software? Or should I go for Mi 10?
Thank you

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