back glass strength - Motorola Razr 5G Questions & Answers

I had my Razr in my back pocket the other week, and when i sat down in a car i heard a quiet cracking noise, the back glass cracked.... How hard is it to swap and are they really that brittle? Thanks!

I can't speak for how hard it is to install the new one but it's literally just a piece of glass with the adhesive strips. It'd be pretty trivial with a spudger/knife and a heat-gun. It looks like the going rate for a new one is around $100USD from AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002618579898.html

Glass only bends so much. It's neither solid nor liquid, an amorphous solid. A bizarre material, the laws of hydraulics can apply to it. Making some of it's behaviors seem baffling.
I have a Note 10+, which is huge. I always wear bdu pants. The thigh cargo pockets are perfect for phones.
Watch a tear down vid of that phone before you dig in. Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.

blackhawk said:
Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.
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This is huge, make sure you have those adhesive strips!

In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.

kreoll said:
In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.
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You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.

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You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.
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True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.

kreoll said:
True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.
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Yeah it's a trade off.
Sometimes it's more practical to tether the phone if you have a tether point.
BDU pants have cargo pockets that are perfect for stashing phones.
Belt pouches are another option.
The occasional fast as on ice slipe/hip-shoulder fall/landing on the phone side might not end well.
There's only so much you can reasonably do.

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Why do I even have a TPU case? what does it protect?

I had an otterbox defender but it was too big and didnt fit my docks, so I went to the tpu but then i got the thinking... What is it protecting besides the back case? I mean is it really going to absorb enough shock to save my phone if I drop it?
I'm more worried about the screen, but even then the screen seems strong enough to not scratch (and if you scratched hard enough wouldnt it just go through the screen protector and scratch the screen anyways?)
I mean its a little slippery without the TPU case but will it really save my phone from a fall?
Are there screen protectors out there that will prevent my screen from shattering or scratching despite being gorilla glass?
It really just seems like the tpu makes my phone warmer than it should be and bigger...
I went 6 years with a razor only to have a semi deep scratch on the plastic and a few nicks...
My screen has two small scratches from putting my phone in my pocket with my car keys. I've always used tpu cases. I had one on my captivate and dropped it from about 10 feet and no damage. I guess it all depends on how it lands but mine has saved my phone multiple times.
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go get and use the Otterbox Commuter case. It protects with minimal bulkiness.
Sadly, there is no screen protector in the world that doubles as a drop protector too. If you really want to protect against scratches and knicks and still have grip, get the ZAGG shield that also covers the back.
Sure, the Commuter is bigger than a TPU case but it sure as heck protects from drops more than a measly back cover.
yes it will protect the phone
drew68 said:
My screen has two small scratches from putting my phone in my pocket with my car keys. I've always used tpu cases. I had one on my captivate and dropped it from about 10 feet and no damage. I guess it all depends on how it lands but mine has saved my phone multiple times.
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Well nothing sharp goes in my phone pocket, and the screen faces my leg.
I'm just not convinced a tpu would give it that much more protection. I'm sure moto has to do quality studies and test how durable they are. If I drop my phone I'm a lot more worried about breaking or scratching the screen than the back case.
And then are screeen protectors even strong enough? It really depends on how you drop it, all the force in one corner or the middle of the screen and thats it, if it falls flat on the back, probably no real damage. And what about shock? does it absorb all the shock or will something crack inside?
I want to write into myth busters, see if cases really protect.
Also, dont you notice your phone getting hotI assume from the thicker tpu, so wont that over heat it, slow it down, and reduce the life?
A case's effect on heat dissipation is real. The amount of heat removed from the phone by air (convection) is not going to be the same as the heat passing through the case (conduction) and convection on the outer surface. Material properties and thickness dictate how much is affected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thermal_conductivities
The higher the 'k' value, the easier it is for heat to pass through. As you can see,
the materials that would absorb shock better do not make the best conductors. So, this is not specific to TPU, just about any case is going to be lousy with cooling, in theory.

DBA "Just Like Glass®" Screen Protector - ZAGG Killer?

DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"
I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
Now I'm curious.
How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?
I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?
Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.
pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.
From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.
Century21J said:
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.
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Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott
molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.
The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.
Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?
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How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151389828738942
I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME

SKiNS?! screen protectors?? - This thing slips off FLAT LEVEL surfaces

This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”)Shock Resistant
Compliant with a military standards test (MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”). Device may not perform as tested in all conditions. Test performed in controlled environment. Do not attempt.
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But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, we have no plans to support the LG G8 ThinQ, as there is simply not enough demand to justify adding it to our portfolio at this time. Sorry about that. Let us know if there is anything else we can help with, and have a great day!
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screen protector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EDYQG6Q7JY
i found this to be a good review of the BodyGuardz Pure Arc Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the G8 ThinQ
i thought it was a shill channel looking at other reviews, but he seems to hate this. it fits GREAT, but only has adhesives on the sides and has a visible dot matrix.
on top of that, he says there is an unnatural hollow feel to it due to the adhesive not being full screen. i imagine this will negatively affect the oled speaker.
this is a $50 screen protector that AT&T is giving away as a part of a promotion.
skins... not much out there and only dbrand has responded (with a NEVER).
the Invisible Phone Guard screen protector was OK and visibility was good, but i found the sound to be very slightly muffled as if it is dampening a certain high frequency.
i'm keeping the back on until i find a decent skin.
this film seems like it will blemish easily. it certainly gets dirty easily. pics here...
Having this phone for a few days now and the OP was not lying about how slippery this phone is. A case or skin is a definite must have!
Ordered a Ringke Fusion X.
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I ordered this case - https://www.ebay.com/itm/273759783563 - I should be getting it later today, I'll post about how well it works.
No sooner did I post this than it came in the mail. Fits on easy, stays on snugly. It's matte rubber without feeling like you're holding a car tire. I had one for my Nexus 6P I really liked and this feels equally good.
This thing is indeed incredibly slippery. I think I'm just going to be extra careful about where I put it down (it's not too slippery in my hands I find, just on certain surfaces), I hate hiding the slick design of the phone with a case. This is also the first phone I've had in a very long time where the camera doesn't bulge out the back, which I really appreciate and don't want to diminish with a case.
doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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Well there are a number of skins now at the varies skin sites though I personally skipped them and simply put the phone into an Otterbox Defender case.
I used a cheap curved glass screen protector ( was like $9) and some loca glue (like $10) to make a DIY full adhesive whitestone kit.
hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?
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hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?
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I have not had that issue and I am using a Supershieldz screen protector however my brother who is using an Iphone 7 recently had that issue with one due to a screen protector he picked up at Walmart though it resolved once he removed it.
It's amazing to watch this phone slowly creep off of my wireless charger, which has a rubbery grippy surface! My case arrives today...
I'm using slickwraps for the back of my phone and I like it. I would say they are slightly less precise than dbrand, but still great quality. If people would like photos, please let me know.
I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.
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Weston
You may want to think about giving the Skinomi Full Body Skin a try. It definitely keeps my phone from slipping off of surfaces, giving the phone a bit of a plastic-rubber feel while still letting the beauty of the phone show through. The back protector doesn't interfere with any cases and offers a bit of mental relief for those times you want to carry your phone without a case.
Dude, I had my g8 for 2 days. Was in. The washroom and the phone was on a roll of toilet paper (the flat side, obviously haha) and got a notification. Before I knew it the phone slid off and landed on the bottom right corner, heard an alarming "tink" sound but didn't think anything of it. A few mins later I saw a small crack, then I looked again and realized that there were multiple cracks on the screen. Ended up getting it replaced by my carrier, I said it was damaged in shipping. Point is that this phone is a glass cannon: it's very powerful for specs but it will have a broken screen if you sneeze on it the wrong way. This is one of the massive downsides to the new gorilla glass. Sure it's scratch resistant but with the wrong amount of pressure it will get destroyed :/
doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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I've dropped this thing so many times because it's so slippery. Seems like every other week I hear it jump off a table a few minutes after I leave the room.
I have a crack on 3 corners, but nothing across the screen. My case (which I tend to take off when connecting it to things such as controllers or some USB cables) almost hides the cracks.
However, these are more like small missing chunks of glass on the corners. I've never had such a fragile phone. I tried super glue on the corners to keep it from spreading, but eventually just went to town on the corners with silicone conformal coating that I had sitting around. It seems to be working great and keeps the little shards coated and sort of glued in there. I kind of prefer this to replacing the screen as replacements have only gone down slightly to around $150 shipped from China and I know I'll just end up breaking that one.
There's always been one or two deal breakers with all of my LG phones and that's why I kept going to a different manufacturer as soon as I could. I hate to say it but after this, I'm never going back to LG again no matter what cool unique feature they're wooing me with.
I basically used this phone with a broken screen for 5 months. Replacements are still $150 (better than $200 back when it broke). It dropped approximately 1.5ft face down onto a clay tile floor and front screen has cracks all over. It almost looks somewhat inverted now as if the screen was designed to have tension. Well I went and got a note 10+ and man it is great to have a real phone again. Doesn't have some of the edgy LG stuff that I really loved and theres no headphone jack... but bigger/brighter screen that isn't broken is so nice to have. Good luck with your screens guys.... I'll replace mine when the price is reasonable and either go back to using it or put it on ebay.
Jaa-Yoo said:
I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.
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I have reached the same conclusion about the screen not being flat enough to utilize a hard glass protector even if you avoid the very curved edge portions. I tried the curved, glued only on the edge types first but that always had a weird optical effect and wasn't very ruggedly glued on, none in the middle. Why? I haven't tried using whitestone glue yet.
So the suggested one sounds interesting. https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Compa...dge-Application/dp/B07NHMBNLH#customerReviews
I think I'll watch the videos first.
I also found these but yes a firm, solid piece of glass is a no go IMHO. Not a fan of these new case designs for all the new phones. Why de do dat?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQD2BCG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MkrHDb48GTKZN
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QB9MN28/
Still hoping for a solution. I had great luck with Spigen Crystal screen protector SGP10855 for my LG G3 which is hard but I believe would be flexible enough if it skipped the curved edges but they don't make anything like that?
UPDATE: After watching the LG G8 video on YouTube I decided to go with the Rinke.
I'll report back. This will be 4th type attempted.
I put it on this morning. It is pretty easy to get this on with good alignment and no bubbles.
Two things.
1. If you watch the YouTube instructions the place where the dust dust cleaning sticky backing splits in half does leave a slightly perceptable crease in the soft protector. Maybe it will smooth out with time? It did not with the squeegee.
2. It's soft so you can possibly nick with your fingernails and it's also easy to lift an edge ever so slightly during final finishing so be careful.
I see no installation flaws but it also isn't a hard glass but then those do not install properly even when undersized because the screen is not level as you get near the edges as far as 1/4" away. The film eliminates this issue but will it protect and stay on.
We shall see.
I sell a lot of these devices and it is even hard to photograph them on a smooth surface because they will start around on my table. Put it in a case, the screens are expensive.

Samsung G20 S is an amazing phone and more delicate than eggs

I decided to switch carriers and try a new smart phone and went with Tmobile and a Galaxy 20S. I was surprised on how slim and light the phone is upon picking it up. The retail store did not have any cases I liked so I ordered a case off Amazon and decided to not take my phone out of the house until I had a case for it. Well......
I had my phone for about 4 days using it in the house. My phone was sitting on the arm rest of my couch and slid off , dropped and landed on the laminate floor. A fall of less than 20". The rear glass cover is cracked on opposite corner edges.
My phone and camera work fine but I am simply amazed at how fragile the 20S is or maybe its just my 20S. I have no idea if its a factory defect and I have never seen anything like it. Its really more fragile than an egg. If the phone is this delicate it should come WITH some type of case or more durable gorilla glass. I am 57 years old and owned several brands of smart phones ( coming from an LG V30) and I have never dropped or broken a phone before in my life. Be aware my cracked 20S could be a fluke or a sign of a bigger issue. Now I need to find a place to replace mt rear cover.
The Galaxy 20 S needs a GOOD case so be advised if you have one be darn careful with it. The quality of the phone ( use) is excellent , its the durability issue that makes me concerned. If a laminate floor cracked the rear glass a drop on concrete will likely kill the phone. Pretty sad for a device that costs a grand or more.
Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................
Rear screen and replacement from a Samsung authorized repair center is $109.17 / FYI
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It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................
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Just got to be careful of where you put and how you handle it.
I haven't dropped or broken a phone or misplaced one in 12 years.
Mainly because i see the item as $$$ and to get $$$ took me months of hard work.
It's WAY more break prone than other phones.
Watch and wait . Great phone for function and features, build durability is iffy at best,IMHO.
If you spend over a thousand dollars for a phone in this day and age a good case is mandatory. Otherwise you are just playing Russian Roulette and sooner or later it's gonna fall on the floor. I love the OtterBox cases. I had the commuter for many years for the S7 edge and Note 8. When I got the Ultra 512 gb I want with the Defender Pro and glad I did. First day I got the phone it was knocked off the kitchen table at work and landed on a concrete floor. Not even a scratch. So you can either wait for your beautiful caseless phone to shatter when you have an oooops moment or you can invest in a top quality case.
Everyone, well most of us, have heard the expression you cannot have your cake and eat it too!
This applies well to our beloved smart phones.
You can have something durable in its creaky, plasticky, feels like a piece of s4!+ design and all (Blackberry anyone?) that can be kicked, tossed, dropped, etc. Doesn't need a case at all.
Or the latest designs that are thin, glass on front and back with metal trim that feel like quality in hand with no squeaks or twists when handled. But if you drop them without a case you will regret it! Even if the glass doesn't chip or break there will be nicks/scratches in the bezel/frame that gets the best of the OCD types.
So now we have cases that are essentially mandatory to everyone that has to carry their devices around. The best cases combine looks/feel while offering adequate protection and then some are purely based on protective qualities alone that make our phones feel like bricks!
I do like thin cases like Pitaka but also will use something with a bit more protection if I'm running around outdoors or up in the air (tower/ladder/tree) etc. I used to use a rigid holster that would fit a specific case but gave up on those due to having to buy so many. And they didn't actually protect the screen as well as you'd think. I use a pouch now with a clip for belt and has a loop that my Grip6 belt can pass through making it utterly impossible to lose the pouch with phone safely inside.
The only thing I haven't figured out is how to make a case puppy teeth proof!
Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.
cal50 said:
Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.
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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.
Damage the front glass, display or camera module and a $109 rear cover will be a bargain.
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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.
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If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.
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If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.
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The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.
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The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.
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Ah so it's not flush
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Ah so it's not flush
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Its flush, but for example if i wet the surface with a cloth then place my phone down. The case is wet, the camera lens is dry.

Google Fabric Cases

Just wondering if anyone has any feedback on the fabric cases available on the google store ? Do they collect lint or dust ? unlike a plastic case do they grip to your pockets when reaching for your phone ?
The fabric cases have a little bit of friction but not enough that it catches or makes it difficult to slide in/out of pockets. When you look at the oils and fingerprints on other cases just remember that your fabric case is actually absorbing most of that. Just because you can't see oil, dust, and dirt that it doesn't mean it's not there. I'd recommend that once a week you do the following:
Take the case off the phone (this should be assumed, but I don't know you)
Run the case under a warm water faucet until it looks and feels like it's saturated
Lather up some hand soap on your hands and then rub into the case for about a minute
Wash off the case (and your hands) for another minute rubbing on the case to make sure you're pushing the soap out
Let the case air dry for a few hours or use the low setting on a hair dryer (your hands are ok to dry using a towel or paper towel)
Is protection any good (edges, corners and front lip)? I always had SPECK cases but this year, they do not seem to come up with any Pixel 5 cases. I need a case that both looks good and adds some reasons protection against drops without adding too much bulk like the UA cases do.
Also, I am a little concerned that the fabric cases will stand the test of time. Any experiences?
I read that the case comes with a raised front "lip" to protect the display and IIRC, fabric cases for older models did not have this. Was the built updated?
I got a Google fabric case for my 3xl. Phone falls and hits right on the bottom edge where there is no protection.!
Screen cracks right at that spot. No problem, call Google - they denied my claim for a new screen! Said the case wasn't designed to protect the phone!
Screw Google and thier cases. I've dropped my 4XL many times with the UAG and or Spigen clear case on it and never had any damage!
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I got a Google fabric case for my 3xl. Phone falls and hits right on the bottom edge where there is no protection.!
Screen cracks right at that spot. No problem, call Google - they denied my claim for a new screen! Said the case wasn't designed to protect the phone!
Screw Google and thier cases. I've dropped my 4XL many times with the UAG and or Spigen clear case on it and never had any damage!
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This is why I always try to go with the most grippy case.
The fabric case is one of the most slippery cases with dry hands. You just open you hand and your phone slips off like a flying bomb.
I've been using Spigen Thin Fit in black colour and it's a bit more grippy than a classic TPU.
However mate silicone rubber cases are probably even more grippy.
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I bought one of these for my 3xl, it broke the first time my phone fell from my desk.
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ademmer said:
Is protection any good (edges, corners and front lip)? I always had SPECK cases but this year, they do not seem to come up with any Pixel 5 cases. I need a case that both looks good and adds some reasons protection against drops without adding too much bulk like the UA cases do.
Also, I am a little concerned that the fabric cases will stand the test of time. Any experiences?
I read that the case comes with a raised front "lip" to protect the display and IIRC, fabric cases for older models did not have this. Was the built updated?
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The protection is NOT very good and as someone else noted here, even google seems unwilling to honor claims if you have the device in the case and it falls and breaks.
I've had this case for two days. My first Google fabric case. I don't find it slippery and yes, it's easy to put in pocket and take out. I am concerned about the exposed bottom though. It would really have to land in a weird way to hit it though. I'm ordering a cheap tpu case as well however.
It does look real good. I have the blue version.
I got the case 3 days ago, so far I like it, like already mentioned the bottom being open is a worry but the case is very nice. I had a Spigen thin clear one for 5 days but it was a bit too bulky.
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The fabric WILL get dirty and discolor in a few weeks. It looks good initially but wont when the fabric darkens from oils.
The case doesn't feel the most secure on the phone, like if it's dropped I feel the phone would pop out of the case. The case doesnt "snap" onto the phone with a lip around the front class.
The case doesn't allow for the phone to sit nicely on the Pixel stand (wireless charger). THIS is a shame, you have to balance the case/phone for it to stand straight
This is not my experience at all. The case is very tight and very secure. It is the first case that won't even allow a skin underneath it without tearing it up because it is so snug and the case wraps around to the front catching the edge of any skin. It doesnt cover the bottom of the phone which could be a negative for some.
I also have the lightest 'static grey' colour. I used the case every day with dark coloured and unwashed denim. It picked up a little oil on the outer edges from pocket friction after a month. Quick wash under the tap and it was back to brand new.
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The fabric WILL get dirty and discolor in a few weeks. It looks good initially but wont when the fabric darkens from oils.
The case doesn't feel the most secure on the phone, like if it's dropped I feel the phone would pop out of the case. The case doesnt "snap" onto the phone with a lip around the front class.
The case doesn't allow for the phone to sit nicely on the Pixel stand (wireless charger). THIS is a shame, you have to balance the case/phone for it to stand straight
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This is not my experience at all. The case is very tight and very secure. It is the first case that won't even allow a skin underneath it without tearing it up because it is so snug and the case wraps around to the front catching the edge of any skin. It doesnt cover the bottom of the phone which could be a negative for some.
I also have the lightest 'static grey' colour. I used the case every day with dark coloured and unwashed denim. It picked up a little oil on the outer edges from pocket friction after a month. Quick wash under the tap and it was back to brand new.
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I agree, I've had this case for over a month now and it doesn't feel like it will come off the phone at all. Haven't dropped the phone yet to test it out though. Also while I use the phone a ton, I haven't felt a need to wash mine yet, but of course YMMV depending upon your environment, if you use the phone while you eat, etc...
I just got the Speck grip case too only because I was worried about the open part of Fabric case on the bottom, but nothing else. I really dig the way the Fabric case looks much more. The orange button and orange google logo on the back make it easier to find in darkness too.
tlxxxsracer said:
The fabric WILL get dirty and discolor in a few weeks. It looks good initially but wont when the fabric darkens from oils.
The case doesn't feel the most secure on the phone, like if it's dropped I feel the phone would pop out of the case. The case doesnt "snap" onto the phone with a lip around the front class.
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This is not true. Do you really own this case or just posting your thoughts?
1. It won't get dirty in regular conditions for 99% of the ppl, of course if you work at oil refinery it would. It's easy to wash it with a soft sponge and dish washing liquid - takes 5mins. I owned two fabric cases for p3xl for 2years, now I have it for p5, and it's not dirty at all after 1.5mo. No signs of discolor, do not wash with bleaching substances and do not put in contact with aggressive chemicals. That's it.
2. It doesn't pop out when the phone falls - checked by myself unintentionally. It has a quite good leap from 3 sides, so the phone screen is quite protected. Of course it's not an Otterbox case, but I prefer good aesthetic over bulkiness with a grenade-blast-protection.
My only concern would be that the G logo has peeled off a little - p3xl cases were definitely better with that. But I fixed it with glue and a pin in 5mins
Sorry for my bad English.
Cheers
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This is not true. Do you really own this case or just posting your thoughts?
1. It won't get dirty in regular conditions for 99% of the ppl, of course if you work at oil refinery it would. It's easy to wash it with a soft sponge and dish washing liquid - takes 5mins. I owned two fabric cases for p3xl for 2years, now I have it for p5, and it's not dirty at all after 1.5mo. No signs of discolor, do not wash with bleaching substances and do not put in contact with aggressive chemicals. That's it.
2. It doesn't pop out when the phone falls - checked by myself unintentionally. It has a quite good leap from 3 sides, so the phone screen is quite protected. Of course it's not an Otterbox case, but I prefer good aesthetic over bulkiness with a grenade-blast-protection.
My only concern would be that the G logo has peeled off a little - p3xl cases were definitely better with that. But I fixed it with glue and a pin in 5mins
Sorry for my bad English.
Cheers
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My experience has bee the same as yours. Love the case.
p0izn said:
This is not true. Do you really own this case or just posting your thoughts?
1. It won't get dirty in regular conditions for 99% of the ppl, of course if you work at oil refinery it would. It's easy to wash it with a soft sponge and dish washing liquid - takes 5mins. I owned two fabric cases for p3xl for 2years, now I have it for p5, and it's not dirty at all after 1.5mo. No signs of discolor, do not wash with bleaching substances and do not put in contact with aggressive chemicals. That's it.
2. It doesn't pop out when the phone falls - checked by myself unintentionally. It has a quite good leap from 3 sides, so the phone screen is quite protected. Of course it's not an Otterbox case, but I prefer good aesthetic over bulkiness with a grenade-blast-protection.
My only concern would be that the G logo has peeled off a little - p3xl cases were definitely better with that. But I fixed it with glue and a pin in 5mins
Sorry for my bad English.
Cheers
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I do own and use this case.. I also owned it for each pixel model I've owned.
After a few weeks it showed discoloration from oils/grease on my hands and dirt from surfaces. I have cleaned the orange case before but the color never truly returns to that from when its brand new.
Plus in a time right now, this sort of case is a nesting ground for germs and not as easily cleanable
I use Google's green chameleon fabric case for my Pixel 5 sorta sage and I'm satisfied. Non slippery at all. The only problem is that if you put tempered glass the lips of the case is on the same height with the glass. Also using Spigen's Ultra hybrid. Very nice one too!
On my Pixel 4XL I have all the fabric cases except the blueish one. I like them so much.
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I do own and use this case.. I also owned it for each pixel model I've owned.
After a few weeks it showed discoloration from oils/grease on my hands and dirt from surfaces. I have cleaned the orange case before but the color never truly returns to that from when its brand new.
Plus in a time right now, this sort of case is a nesting ground for germs and not as easily cleanable
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Covid can't live on a porous surface like this. Most viruses can't. Non-issue.
I love the fabric cases.
Hey guys, Target has a $31 sale on some cases.
and B&HPhotos is having a bigger one, 21 for one color
I decided to get a google fabric case, and found a brand new one on ebay for £15 which i thought was a bargain, was the slate grey version. Have to say i love it, definetly feels premium and its been the best case i have bought.
Looks great, feels great. Recommend it.

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