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DBA "Just Like Glass®" Screen Protector - ZAGG Killer?

DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"

I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.

I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.

Now I'm curious.

How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?

I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?

Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.

pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.

From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?

So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?

kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.

Century21J said:
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.

Just Like Glass Screen Protectors
Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott

molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.

The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.

Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?

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How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.

molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151389828738942

I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME

Galaxy S3 Dust Problem?

Hey Guys and Girls,
I just got my Galaxy S III a month ago and I am developing a problem I can't seem to figure out. On the edges of the phone, where the glass meets the blue plastic I am getting a build up of dirt. I keep my hands very clean as I am super OCD about my devices. With that being said, I am getting dirt and "grime" build up in the sides. Sometimes it's hard to notice but it becomes clearer as more days go on. I have contacted Samsung and they were unwilling to decide what it was without seeing it. I contacted my carrier who sent me a replacement after ten or more calls. The new device seems to suffer the same fate. I am wondering if anyone else is having this problem or knows how to get rid of it. I tried to clean it with an air canister with no luck and plenty of sharp objects. None which would do a great job, the only thing that came close was a toothbrush and that was difficult to say the least. Is this a known problem or am I getting more defective devices. Thanks for your input.
P.S- I know the photo isn't great and I will take more to show the effects. It is most noticeable in the corners, the sides, and around the speaker and home button.
Appreciate the help!

I don't have any issues and I have the white one, so it should be more obvious.
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I had some lint build up in mine before I got a case (free zoogue deal) that covers the gap. I just used the corner of a folded piece of paper to clean it out a few times. Personally, I consider that gap to be a design flaw, particularly considering that the gap is not uniform on all sides...

annulation said:
I had some lint build up in mine before I got a case (free zoogue deal) that covers the gap. I just used the corner of a folded piece of paper to clean it out a few times. Personally, I consider that gap to be a design flaw, particularly considering that the gap is not uniform on all sides...
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I will try the paper trick, pretty much the only thing I didn't use. I find the gap to be a flaw as well considering that over time it is only bound to get worse. I have found that some spots are wider than others. Not sure why they would create a design like this but glad to see I am not the only one. I thought I was being OCD for awhile.

chaoticfury said:
I will try the paper trick, pretty much the only thing I didn't use. I find the gap to be a flaw as well considering that over time it is only bound to get worse. I have found that some spots are wider than others. Not sure why they would create a design like this but glad to see I am not the only one. I thought I was being OCD for awhile.
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The gap isn't a design flaw: it's actually the seam between the front and back of the phone, and it's where you slip a spudger (flat plastic knife) in order to pry it apart (after rear screws are removed) for repair.
Just put a case on it -- any case will do -- and then it's virtually a non-issue. If you don't want to use case then just live with having to clean out the gunk build-up every couple months.
(And, frankly, it's kinda lame that you *****ed about this "problem" over 10 phonecalls and then they finally gave you a replacement phone to make you go away and stop costing them money)

Before I had a case I didn't have this issue. The gap isn't very noticeable. I have a Diztronic TPU case now ($10 Amazon) and it has a small lip which covers that gap. Maybe you have dirty pockets or a batch of phones that just had a slightly larger gap.

zmore said:
The gap isn't a design flaw: it's actually the seam between the front and back of the phone, and it's where you slip a spudger (flat plastic knife) in order to pry it apart (after rear screws are removed) for repair.
Just put a case on it -- any case will do -- and then it's virtually a non-issue. If you don't want to use case then just live with having to clean out the gunk build-up every couple months.
(And, frankly, it's kinda lame that you *****ed about this "problem" over 10 phonecalls and then they finally gave you a replacement phone to make you go away and stop costing them money)
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You are entitled to your opinion about how lame or not lame it was for me to call, but the truth of the matter is I have owned a multitude of phones in my lifetime, none which had a problem like this at all. I am not sure if you are in Canada, but a three year term for a phone that constantly needs maintenance for removing dust does not seem like a premium device in my book. Not to mention the fact that if it finds it's way under the screen as you suggest, then it would only cause future problems, outside of the one year warranty, rendering me with an inoperable phone. So I can't say I agree with your analysis of my calls. Not to mention it costs them a negligible amount to speak with me on the phone.
Most of the cases I have found only cover the rear of the device and do not cover the lip. I would hate to cover up my super phone in a five dollar POS case just for the sake of keeping dust out of a device that should have been designed to not have that happen to begin with.

chaoticfury said:
You are entitled to your opinion about how lame or not lame it was for me to call, but the truth of the matter is I have owned a multitude of phones in my lifetime, none which had a problem like this at all. I am not sure if you are in Canada, but a three year term for a phone that constantly needs maintenance for removing dust does not seem like a premium device in my book. Not to mention the fact that if it finds it's way under the screen as you suggest, then it would only cause future problems, outside of the one year warranty, rendering me with an inoperable phone. So I can't say I agree with your analysis of my calls. Not to mention it costs them a negligible amount to speak with me on the phone.
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It can't get behind the screen because it's one piece, so don't worry about that.
Most of the cases I have found only cover the rear of the device and do not cover the lip. I would hate to cover up my super phone in a five dollar POS case just for the sake of keeping dust out of a device that should have been designed to not have that happen to begin with.
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Yeah, many of the hard polycarb cases -- like Samsung's mesh case, or the popular Rock Quicksand -- that offer little edge protection don't cover the the entire lip because they can't. All TPU and hybrid cases do, though.

chaoticfury said:
Most of the cases I have found only cover the rear of the device and do not cover the lip. I would hate to cover up my super phone in a five dollar POS case just for the sake of keeping dust out of a device that should have been designed to not have that happen to begin with.
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Most TPU cases have a lip which wraps around the front. It's not a hard plastic case that tries to snap into place. I have the Diztronic case and the lip is definitely there and it definitely covers the gap you're referring to. I had a TPU case for my GSII and it's the same basic design. If you don't want a case then you'll have to put up with the dirt in the crevices or get a different phone.

AngelsNecropolis said:
Most TPU cases have a lip which wraps around the front. It's not a hard plastic case that tries to snap into place. I have the Diztronic case and the lip is definitely there and it definitely covers the gap you're referring to. I had a TPU case for my GSII and it's the same basic design. If you don't want a case then you'll have to put up with the dirt in the crevices or get a different phone.
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Thanks Angels,
I will have a look at the cases as you suggest and try to find one that I like. I would hate to give up this phone as I very much enjoy it and don't see any other phones that interest me at the present moment.

chaoticfury said:
Thanks Angels,
I will have a look at the cases as you suggest and try to find one that I like. I would hate to give up this phone as I very much enjoy it and don't see any other phones that interest me at the present moment.
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Np. I use this case. http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Fle...54&sr=8-7&keywords=diztronic+galaxy+s+III+tpu The matte feel is nice and it comes with a screen protector which I applied and it's good quality as well. It doesn't attract as much finger prints as other screen protectors I've used and it's very clear.
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But... even with a TPU case you'll have to be careful of drops. Gorilla Glass isn't as strong as it's touted to be against sudden impacts (watch iPhone5 vs Samsung Galaxy S III drop test). My GSII got a small scratch prior to applying a protector and just today a coworker dropped her GSII on concrete and the TPU case didn't stop the screen from severely cracking. It will protect from a lot of surface scratches though. My mom just got her first smart phone (a Pantech) and dropped it and it slid across the floor. I hadn't gotten her screen protector yet and her screen has some small scratches and nicks.
I guess my point is even if it reduces the aesthetics get a case, a screen protector, and be careful still.

I ordered that case like you suggested but it has yet to arrive. The replacement phone I got from my carrier is having even worse problems than my first one. I was even more careful with this than the others. Not really sure what to do. I am intrigued by the fact that I see nobody who has a white GS3 post problems about it. I wonder if the blue is the only one with these kind of issues.

I've got a blue one and don't have that problem
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This thread on tight fitting cases might be helpful.

I have. White phone no such issues I also noticed the white button sticks out a bit more.
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I had a blue one and had the same problem. The dust was noticeable around the edge and around the speaker. I ended up exchanging it because the home button died. All they had in stock was white so I took it. I have to say, the white one has much less of a seam and there is no noticeable dust build up!
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cboone said:
I had a blue one and had the same problem. The dust was noticeable around the edge and around the speaker. I ended up exchanging it because the home button died. All they had in stock was white so I took it. I have to say, the white one has much less of a seam and there is no noticeable dust build up!
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Going to see if I can get a white. I prefer blue but I hate this problem.

Mine collects dust too and I use a Rock case. I'd clean it if I could, but I can't seem to fit paper or anything in to push it out either. It's hardly visible, not putting too much thought in to it.

HTC One - bare / naked / without case

Are there any case haterz on this forum, who run their phones without any kind of cases / back stickers etc ?
Could you post some photos, facts, knowledge how well the phone stands everyday usage ?
I have been using case since day one, but i just can't stand it anymore. Did I buy alluminium phone to put it in rubber case or stick plastic sheet of foil on it to lose the feeling of alluminium ? No !
I drop my phone very rarely, actually i have never droppped it (knock knock), only time it hit ground it was clumsy bird's (jokin clumsy friend's hands) fault. My only concern is lens protector. On one side its nicely hidden in the rim, but at the other lens cover is protruding just a very litle bit. I am attaching picture to illustrate it a bit. It is side look.
There's a "hole" in the phone body, so the lens should be all hidden / drown and there should be 1 milimeter gap, when i place phone on table. On one side there is, on other lens is in line with body.
Grey - phone
White - gap for lens cover
Black - lens cover
Mods, please do not delete this topic - this has already happened in past (moved to accesories thread), but it get lost very easily, i try to debate with users without accesories.
Thanks

i did for apprx 4 months when i first bought the device, now i'm using crystal clear case to not to hide devices body.
i bought a case after i saw scratches on camera lens, luckly camera lens got replaced after service for red tint.
also shiny exposed alumium around the device got scratched and deformed a bit.

I also am not a fan of big bulky cases. One of the main reasons I bought this phone is because it is so damn beautiful (compared to most other phones). I've always joked about how iPhone fans typically rave about how "sleek" and "thin" their phones are, yet they walk around with them wearing the equivalent of a down-filled parka that is anything but "sleek".
I did compromise a bit, just because I want to keep my phone looking nice. I found the Cimo clear case. It is very thin, and very clear. It has just enough of a "lip" around the edge so that the screen of the phone won't contact the ground when it is lying down (or dropped on its face). The soft rubbery cushioning should also protect against dings on the corners and back, as well as prevent scratches. All without sacrificing the beauty of the phone. I paid $10 on Amazon for it.

NEH,
I did not buy a unibody aluminium finish phone to hide it behind chinese plastic covers. Thats not my style. I have pretty much the same type of use like yours. The only thing that has happened with me is that the beats audio red sticker at the behind bottom plate is now fading off. Nothing else. Just keep keys/card holder and coins in other pocket. I dont think you need a plastic cover.

When I had my One I used the HTC hard shell - minimal design but clear so you could still see the phone. Best case I had IMO
http://shop.emea.htc.com/uk/p_htc_store_product.aspx?i=251537
Whether you can still get it is another question

I've been using this case works well still shows the phones great looks and protect it all around.
HTC One

Guys, thanks for all the replies.
But this thread is strictly about naked devices - no cases at all !

well ii put a case on it.... next time its still usable years down the road

Mine has had nothing on it except a transparent skin on the back since i bought it last May. Still looks great...

Yeah I've been running mines nekkid since I got it last April, just couldn't bring myself to spend money to cover such a good looking device. Other than some wear marks around the shiny beveled edge, there's no obvious signs of age.
I'm not rough on it, but I don't baby it either. I have dropped it a few times(on purpose, just to show people how durable it is), and run my knife across the screen and back, but no damage.
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jaqual said:
Yeah I've been running mines nekkid since I got it last April, just couldn't bring myself to spend money to cover such a good looking device. Other than some wear marks around the shiny beveled edge, there's no obvious signs of age.
I'm not rough on it, but I don't baby it either. I have dropped it a few times(on purpose, just to show people how durable it is), and run my knife across the screen and back, but no damage.
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And what about lens cover ? Is yout lens completely hidden, or do you have it like me ? Hidden on one side, flush with body on the other.
Do you use any kind of pouch or something ?

never ever use a case defeats point of having such a wonderful design,have a leather pouch when not in us and just treat it like a baby when in use 6 months on still pristine not a mark
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remusator said:
And what about lens cover ? Is yout lens completely hidden, or do you have it like me ? Hidden on one side, flush with body on the other.
Do you use any kind of pouch or something ?
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My lens cover is slightly recessed, so no, not like you, but haven't had any damage to it. No pouch or anything, just keep it in my pocket with my change.
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No case.
I am careful when I lay it down on certain surfaces.
And I try *very* hard never to let it slip out of my hands and fall.
No damage due to general wear. I dented the back slightly and roughed up one corner slightly.
Totally worth it. Love the feel and thinness of the phone.

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Mine has had nothing on it except a transparent skin on the back since i bought it last May. Still looks great...
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this is how i use mine. transparent cover over the back which i only put on because the aluminum is actually very slippery for me and the clear skin provides better grip so i dont drop it. clear cover over the screen and im good to go. few small areas around the front bevel where the blue has worn away but other than that its prefect. i never use a case, defeats the purpose of having a thin phone.

I Have been using it without cover, but in December it has fallen on the road so i ordered some cheap one from the e-bay.
So now, i am using it with cover, but i lost that great metal feeling of the phone.
Here is an example with and without cover
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I don't use a case at all makes it easier to use the volume and power button
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I use no covers, just matte screen protector (I like the way my display looks with it). Bought it in June 2013. It fell on the floor several times, it got only one scratch on the top (on the lright corner), but it still looks amazing! As it's always in my pocket, lately the "beats audio" logo on the back is going away slowly... but i use nothing to protect it

NxNW said:
No case.
I am careful when I lay it down on certain surfaces.
And I try *very* hard never to let it slip out of my hands and fall.
No damage due to general wear. I dented the back slightly and roughed up one corner slightly.
Totally worth it. Love the feel and thinness of the phone.
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+1. Dont know how long I would keep the phone. But while I have it might as well enjoy the quality feel of it.

My HTC One is about two weeks old. I love it so much, I can't bring myself to cover this baby up.
Also, I am paying for a warranty, so if anything happens to it I'll get a new one, or maybe the M8 if they run out =D

SKiNS?! screen protectors?? - This thing slips off FLAT LEVEL surfaces

This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”)Shock Resistant
Compliant with a military standards test (MIL-STD-810G Method 516.6, Procedure IV “Transit Drop”). Device may not perform as tested in all conditions. Test performed in controlled environment. Do not attempt.
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But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.

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Apr 13, 15:55 EDT
Hey ######!
Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, we have no plans to support the LG G8 ThinQ, as there is simply not enough demand to justify adding it to our portfolio at this time. Sorry about that. Let us know if there is anything else we can help with, and have a great day!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EDYQG6Q7JY
i found this to be a good review of the BodyGuardz Pure Arc Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the G8 ThinQ
i thought it was a shill channel looking at other reviews, but he seems to hate this. it fits GREAT, but only has adhesives on the sides and has a visible dot matrix.
on top of that, he says there is an unnatural hollow feel to it due to the adhesive not being full screen. i imagine this will negatively affect the oled speaker.
this is a $50 screen protector that AT&T is giving away as a part of a promotion.
skins... not much out there and only dbrand has responded (with a NEVER).
the Invisible Phone Guard screen protector was OK and visibility was good, but i found the sound to be very slightly muffled as if it is dampening a certain high frequency.
i'm keeping the back on until i find a decent skin.
this film seems like it will blemish easily. it certainly gets dirty easily. pics here...

Having this phone for a few days now and the OP was not lying about how slippery this phone is. A case or skin is a definite must have!
Ordered a Ringke Fusion X.
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I ordered this case - https://www.ebay.com/itm/273759783563 - I should be getting it later today, I'll post about how well it works.
No sooner did I post this than it came in the mail. Fits on easy, stays on snugly. It's matte rubber without feeling like you're holding a car tire. I had one for my Nexus 6P I really liked and this feels equally good.

This thing is indeed incredibly slippery. I think I'm just going to be extra careful about where I put it down (it's not too slippery in my hands I find, just on certain surfaces), I hate hiding the slick design of the phone with a case. This is also the first phone I've had in a very long time where the camera doesn't bulge out the back, which I really appreciate and don't want to diminish with a case.

doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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Well there are a number of skins now at the varies skin sites though I personally skipped them and simply put the phone into an Otterbox Defender case.

I used a cheap curved glass screen protector ( was like $9) and some loca glue (like $10) to make a DIY full adhesive whitestone kit.

hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?

stamos*bp said:
hey everyone - just got my lg g8 a few days ago. i got my case and glass screen protector yesterday. in my head i feel like maybe the screen protector is 'muting' the sound from the screen. has anyone else noticed this, or is it just in my head?
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I have not had that issue and I am using a Supershieldz screen protector however my brother who is using an Iphone 7 recently had that issue with one due to a screen protector he picked up at Walmart though it resolved once he removed it.

It's amazing to watch this phone slowly creep off of my wireless charger, which has a rubbery grippy surface! My case arrives today...

I'm using slickwraps for the back of my phone and I like it. I would say they are slightly less precise than dbrand, but still great quality. If people would like photos, please let me know.

I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.

Huge Thanks!
Weston

You may want to think about giving the Skinomi Full Body Skin a try. It definitely keeps my phone from slipping off of surfaces, giving the phone a bit of a plastic-rubber feel while still letting the beauty of the phone show through. The back protector doesn't interfere with any cases and offers a bit of mental relief for those times you want to carry your phone without a case.

Dude, I had my g8 for 2 days. Was in. The washroom and the phone was on a roll of toilet paper (the flat side, obviously haha) and got a notification. Before I knew it the phone slid off and landed on the bottom right corner, heard an alarming "tink" sound but didn't think anything of it. A few mins later I saw a small crack, then I looked again and realized that there were multiple cracks on the screen. Ended up getting it replaced by my carrier, I said it was damaged in shipping. Point is that this phone is a glass cannon: it's very powerful for specs but it will have a broken screen if you sneeze on it the wrong way. This is one of the massive downsides to the new gorilla glass. Sure it's scratch resistant but with the wrong amount of pressure it will get destroyed :/
doblebo said:
This is one slippery mofo. Any skins out there? Less than 24 hours and this thing keeps slipping off what I thought were flat level surfaces. If I set it flat on the palm of my hand or on a newspaper on a table, I can watch it slowly inch its way to its doom.
I hate to admit I fell for this line from LG:
But if you actually look up what this means... you see its pure and simple marketing buII**** as your "controlled environment" can consist of a careful 4 foot drop onto plywood.
So yes.. skins to keep this thing from slipping are needed.
I ordered the Invisible Phone Guard front/back and will show how it works here when it is received. ATT was supposed to give me a screen protector.
I attached a picture to show what happened here. This is from 2 or 3 falls only 2'5" drop onto a laminate floor. The scratches cannot be seen without good light and the photos were taken using a DSLR and macro lens.. so it isn't terrible, but rest assured this has weakened the gorilla glass and the front screen will eventually shatter if it keeps jumping off tables.
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I've dropped this thing so many times because it's so slippery. Seems like every other week I hear it jump off a table a few minutes after I leave the room.
I have a crack on 3 corners, but nothing across the screen. My case (which I tend to take off when connecting it to things such as controllers or some USB cables) almost hides the cracks.
However, these are more like small missing chunks of glass on the corners. I've never had such a fragile phone. I tried super glue on the corners to keep it from spreading, but eventually just went to town on the corners with silicone conformal coating that I had sitting around. It seems to be working great and keeps the little shards coated and sort of glued in there. I kind of prefer this to replacing the screen as replacements have only gone down slightly to around $150 shipped from China and I know I'll just end up breaking that one.
There's always been one or two deal breakers with all of my LG phones and that's why I kept going to a different manufacturer as soon as I could. I hate to say it but after this, I'm never going back to LG again no matter what cool unique feature they're wooing me with.

I basically used this phone with a broken screen for 5 months. Replacements are still $150 (better than $200 back when it broke). It dropped approximately 1.5ft face down onto a clay tile floor and front screen has cracks all over. It almost looks somewhat inverted now as if the screen was designed to have tension. Well I went and got a note 10+ and man it is great to have a real phone again. Doesn't have some of the edgy LG stuff that I really loved and theres no headphone jack... but bigger/brighter screen that isn't broken is so nice to have. Good luck with your screens guys.... I'll replace mine when the price is reasonable and either go back to using it or put it on ebay.

Jaa-Yoo said:
I'm using a Nillkin slim case, adds no bulk and provides some grippiness.
I also have a Spigen Crystal Clear gel case that's very nice, but is more bulky than the Nillkin.
As for screen protectors, i've found that glass ones are useless for this phone. I tried a couple full adhesive brands with the idea that i would fill the little gap on the edges with LOCA but of the 6 protectors that i applied, they all had a problem sticking fully in some flat areas of the screen. It was always the exact same spots so I came to the conclusion that the LG screen itself isn't 100% flat in those areas so I settled on the Ringke Dual Easy Film screen protector.
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I have reached the same conclusion about the screen not being flat enough to utilize a hard glass protector even if you avoid the very curved edge portions. I tried the curved, glued only on the edge types first but that always had a weird optical effect and wasn't very ruggedly glued on, none in the middle. Why? I haven't tried using whitestone glue yet.
So the suggested one sounds interesting. https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Compa...dge-Application/dp/B07NHMBNLH#customerReviews
I think I'll watch the videos first.
I also found these but yes a firm, solid piece of glass is a no go IMHO. Not a fan of these new case designs for all the new phones. Why de do dat?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQD2BCG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MkrHDb48GTKZN
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QB9MN28/
Still hoping for a solution. I had great luck with Spigen Crystal screen protector SGP10855 for my LG G3 which is hard but I believe would be flexible enough if it skipped the curved edges but they don't make anything like that?
UPDATE: After watching the LG G8 video on YouTube I decided to go with the Rinke.
I'll report back. This will be 4th type attempted.
I put it on this morning. It is pretty easy to get this on with good alignment and no bubbles.
Two things.
1. If you watch the YouTube instructions the place where the dust dust cleaning sticky backing splits in half does leave a slightly perceptable crease in the soft protector. Maybe it will smooth out with time? It did not with the squeegee.
2. It's soft so you can possibly nick with your fingernails and it's also easy to lift an edge ever so slightly during final finishing so be careful.
I see no installation flaws but it also isn't a hard glass but then those do not install properly even when undersized because the screen is not level as you get near the edges as far as 1/4" away. The film eliminates this issue but will it protect and stay on.
We shall see.

I sell a lot of these devices and it is even hard to photograph them on a smooth surface because they will start around on my table. Put it in a case, the screens are expensive.

back glass strength

I had my Razr in my back pocket the other week, and when i sat down in a car i heard a quiet cracking noise, the back glass cracked.... How hard is it to swap and are they really that brittle? Thanks!

I can't speak for how hard it is to install the new one but it's literally just a piece of glass with the adhesive strips. It'd be pretty trivial with a spudger/knife and a heat-gun. It looks like the going rate for a new one is around $100USD from AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002618579898.html

Glass only bends so much. It's neither solid nor liquid, an amorphous solid. A bizarre material, the laws of hydraulics can apply to it. Making some of it's behaviors seem baffling.
I have a Note 10+, which is huge. I always wear bdu pants. The thigh cargo pockets are perfect for phones.
Watch a tear down vid of that phone before you dig in. Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.

blackhawk said:
Take your time and have a OEM seal kit to close it back up.
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This is huge, make sure you have those adhesive strips!

In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.

kreoll said:
In case phone is used without protecting case, highly recommend putting hydrogel film on the phone back and front glass panell, it's literally invisible but create extra protection as well a makes phone less slippery in hands.
Putting hydrogel screen protector on internal display is a different story, I have it on and so far no issues after few month.
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You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.

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You really need a good case to protect from face plants and corner hits when drop as well as from being flexed. Any impact that can bent the frame or shatter the display can damage chipsets and the mobo by high G loading alone. A good case spreads out the impact G loading spike making drops survivable.
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True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.

kreoll said:
True, after using phone for few weeks with just hydrogel film on it I've ordered few cases on Amazon to get more protection. I was looking for compact phone thus chosen Razr and don't want to add any bulk to it.
Finally ended up with evutec carbon case, may be not super protective comparing to others but it's almost perfect in terms of look & feel. Hydrogel film still used along with the case and completely invisible.
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Yeah it's a trade off.
Sometimes it's more practical to tether the phone if you have a tether point.
BDU pants have cargo pockets that are perfect for stashing phones.
Belt pouches are another option.
The occasional fast as on ice slipe/hip-shoulder fall/landing on the phone side might not end well.
There's only so much you can reasonably do.