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[Q] Backup application data

Anyone know of an application that can backup application data together with market links? (for non-rooted phones)
I know TB can do that and I already use that, but now my worry comes in when SE is releasing an update this week and we aren't sure whether we are able to root after this!

I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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im_iceman said:
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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Thanks for the reply.
I've used Mybackup Pro before with my X10, but I it couldn't backup the data unless you provide the "root" access to it and the restoration isn't as good as TB when it comes to rooted phone.
The biggest question here is that when the update is delivered, will we be able to root again using the Gingerbreak? If yes, then I've no problem sticking with TB, but if not then my worries start

I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).

daveybaby said:
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
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Yep. Agreed.
But here I'm looking at something which can backup the data of the application as well without a rooted phone and restore it in a non-rooted phone.
Any suggestion?

sounds like this needs root to work then..
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im_iceman said:
sounds like this needs root to work then..
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Disappointed.
Most of the phones out there (Android excluded) can do this. The best example is iPhone; thought I don't like it, I like this feature. That's the whole idea for us to connect to the PC every now and then. I don't know how hard it is for the phone makers to come up with something like this to backup the whole phone, including apps and their data; while they have access to everything since they are the manufacture of the phone.
Every now and then, surely there will be software updates and they will wipe the data. We have to setup it up from scratch and it takes a long time for that and more or less you will loss the application's data; unless you are rooted and use TB to backup; provided the "root" is still available for that software update.
Previously I tried a simple application for backing up the data of the famous game "Angry Birds". This app requires no "root", but does the job pretty well. Now when a third party application can do that means surely the phone maker should be able to do more than that!!

sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...

akusokuzan said:
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
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Does that application have a option to backup application (from market) together with it's data? Am I able to choose which application to backup/restore? Classic example is backup "Angry Birds" with it's completed levels and it's settings.

After the update my phone has become quite slow and freezes at times for 1-2 seconds. I would like to do a factory reset to see whether it can solve the problem but only thing stopping me from doing that is I couldn't find a software (be it a PC based software or and Phone application) that could backup my phone's application together with their data!
Any more advises or help?

[Q] Quickest way to backup apps+data before flashing a new ROM?

Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:

I use titanium backup. Works great with the note 2.
When they are saying don't restore data they are talking about system data. If you backup everything including system apps and data and restore from that it can wreck havoc.
Just backing up user apps and data is fine to restore, at least I've never had a problem. I would just be wary going between touch wiz and aosp ROMs that could get a little dicey, but between the same type of ROMs(ice cm10.1 to aokp or pacman or aospa) should be fine.
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i used Helium (used to be Carbon) by Koush, the creator of CWM and ROM Manager) recently when i switched ROMs. i have always used Titanium Backup, but thought i would try Helium. the process is super easy and went very smoothly.

lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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I believe when it comes to backing up/moving apps + data, time, convenience or money saving should simply stay out of the decision making process. BUY the best there is, spend time to learn how to properly use the tool and that will give you the quickest, most convenient and money saving solution. In other words, this is where you shouldn't be cutting any corners. I would recommend either Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro.

I bought Helium Premium and it worked beautifully. Now I have no reason not to try every ROM available for this phone. Thanks guys!

My backup pro + root will do the job nice. If you're not seeing your backups try going into settings and check that your backups are going to EXTENT sd.
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lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me

I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.

yhzh said:
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
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did you set the backup location under settings when you redownloaded the app to point to the location of your backup folder?

+1 titanium backup..when restoring after a rom install..make sure to restore only apps never restore apos wirh chemicals system data...you'll have conflicts then.
Titanium backup is the best in my opinion. .you can backup bookmarks, message sms, call logs and even send them to dropbox and restore them just as easy...

I agree that Ti Backup is a good option. I wont say its the best period, but it is the best that I have used.

Ishan16 said:
Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
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Enjoy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&hl=en

Good App backup app.

Hello friends,
I'm kinda still new to the whole custom rom world and have a question. I really like flashing and testing new roms but the one thing I hate is having to download all the apps again from the play store, even though it syncs up and starts automatically downloading all of them it's way too time consuming and not to mention uses more data. I was going to see if you guys could recommend a good backup app that would back all my apps and their data up to my SD card so after flashing a new app I could just install the one backup app then use it to restore the apps/data/sms etc. from my SD card. I see several in the play store such as titanium but was wanted to get a few opinions from folks that have more experience. I'd prefer free but would not mind paying a few bucks ..say $3-5 for a good well rounded app.
Thanks and have a great day!
-Neal

Titanium is the overall best/most features IMO. Backup/Restore, Uninstall, Freeze apps, etc... I've used it for a long time, and I really like it.

wtrhzrd said:
Titanium is the overall best/most features IMO. Backup/Restore, Uninstall, Freeze apps, etc... I've used it for a long time, and I really like it.
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Thanks, I give it a try...I noticed that it has the option to backup app+system. I have a followup question on this regarding backing up the "system info". If I was on rom sokp version 1.5 and made my backups that included the system file and then the sokp team released another version that had bug fixes in it ..lets say V1.7 and I installed it and then did a restore...would restoring the system contents onto the new rom change it back to what I had and end up breaking things that were fixed. Hope this makes since. Lets say bluetooth was broke on my current rom that I've made apps+system backups and then I install V1.7 which fixes the bluetooth...would me restoring the system folder break bluetooth again and whatever else they've fixed. Also, what if I want to kick around another rom...lets say carbon ...would restoring my backups cause it issues.
Thanks guys!

You can only restore system data to the same or updated versions of a ROM. In most cases, its best to start from scratch with things such as your settings. (Contacts/calendar data should restore ok regardless)

Thanks DOC!!

Flash Rom , Install Apps , Flash again Install apps again ......how long?

hey folks, the biggest advantage of having a good android phone is this community support and access to tons of tuning. But also the biggest downside to having to many options is flashing it and re installing all of our apps and configuring them again .
I just wanted to ask fellow members what is the best and easiest way to restore apps and data after a fresh install .
I have tried titanium backup and is a must have tool for me when ever i flash , but are there better stuff out there ?

I used to use Titanium, but now I don't rely on it anymore. I only use "SMS backup and restore" for sms and call logs, and that's all, I only rely on Google Backup, and i log in all the apps that need it. I rarely lose something, except some game progress that do not matter.
A complete clean flash takes me about two hours, from nandroid backup, to google synchronisation and setting all the parameters in the rom and apps.

There really is no better option than Titanium. It does pretty much everything itself, you just have to wait a bit.
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After doing it over 100 times in the past years, it really becomes a habit to just backup, make a full wipe, then restore.
Personally after years of trying out (a TON of) ROMs, I now rarely make the switch. Because of that, I actually don't make a lot of backups, just the ones that are necessary like SMS and maybe WiFi passwords. For the apps, I just restore them from the PlayStore.

Question Good backup options?

Hello everyone!
I pre-ordered my Pixel 6 Pro and received it a couple of weeks ago. I did not immediately unlock the bootloader as I didn't see the need (as I would need to wipe anyway once I install a Google-spyware-free ROM.) However, since development is proceeding smoothly enough (thanks to everyone who's working hard on that!) I'm starting to look at options of how to back up my data in case of a future wipe.
In the golden days of Android development, I used to use Titanium (with root), which also worked without root, really. What do people use nowadays (beyond Google) to back up their Android phones?
Thanks a lot in advance!

SwiftBackup

Nekromantik said:
SwiftBackup
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There really is no other answer than this one. Migrate is fantastic too - but Swift backup is objectively better. It really is just click/press button and forget, in ease of use.
Some apps don't properly back up each respective app properly, which is why I still use tibu for some things. But I find myself using tibu less and less.

ROOT:
Code:
echo "Demonstrates fzf for interactive selection of multiple packages"
for APP in $(pm list packages | fzf -m)
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done
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for APP in $(adb shell pm list packages | grep -E 'accubattery|betterbatterystats|etc|etc|etc')
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done

Nekromantik said:
SwiftBackup
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From what I've read, and for what most backup apps are capable of, if you wanna backup app data you have to be rooted.
If you're stock then some developers can limit adb backup from even taking place, so I'm finding options are limited the longer you go without rooting right away.

I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro ? ? ? ) ( ouch, last updated on: November 24th, 2019)

I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.

old_fart said:
I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro )
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Yeah, but Swift is objectively better as a general backup tool than TiBu these days

yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good

Just checked Swift Backup and even without root it does seem like a valid option. My only concern is that requires a Google login to use? I imagine that, unlike Google's actual Android backup, this would work even without gapps installed (potentially), but just wondering if anyone could confirm that?

From other devices I used to use TWRP backup by just hooking each and every partition and copying the backup file to the PC afterwards. If anything went wrong I simply restored the TWRP backup. Is there a way to do this kind of backup manually from the PC?

RetroTech07 said:
I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.
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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.
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I'd like to root, but would have to sift through all of the new info that's been provided. It'll take some time going from beginning to end, but never do I worry about backups because I'm in control of my data.
When I transitioned over from my old pixel 2xl to the 6 with the data transfer, none of my apps retained data or login info. It's kinda pointless for the transfer to have to redownload every single app and retain nothing except SMS. I don't understand why the process sucks as bad as it does. Why can't it just transfer everything from one device to another? I might as well just not even bother with it and should have rooted it then.

Nekromantik said:
yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good
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There's a good SMS/MMS backup app in the play store that I have used for many years if you'd ever like to try it. I understand you're using swift, but this app doesn't require root to work.

If you are rooted, OAndBackupX is a great tool... It's free and open-source, and a fully featured product. It has some limited capabilities without root, but if you want a full backup with app data, you'd need root.
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Neo Backup | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
The open-source tool to backup your apps and data
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For SMS, MMS & RCS backup, you can try SMS Backup & Restore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore). RCS support is still experimental, but SMS & MMS backup & restore works well.

Just a reminder: Because of the requirement to disable dm-verity and vbmeta verification when flashing a patched boot image, you will have to wipe data when doing so. If you have not yet unlocked your bootloader, this is a non issue, as you can disable AVB after unlocking the bootloader.