Question Over sharpened Mi 11x Amoled display - Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40

Hi, I recently bought mi 11x and have been using it for past couple of days. What I have noticed is that the shaprness of my phone's display is very high and because of that everything looks really bad on the screen... Like artifacts around black text on white background or anything running in low resolution... Is this normal or there's any problem with my display? Should I get my device replaced? Is anyone else is facing similar issue with mi 11x/poco f3/redmi k40 ? Is this MIUI issue and will it be solved if I install custom rom?

what phone did you use prior to mi 11x ?
PS: there is no such thing as sharpened display

suaveUt said:
Hi, I recently bought mi 11x and have been using it for past couple of days. What I have noticed is that the shaprness of my phone's display is very high and because of that everything looks really bad on the screen... Like artifacts around black text on white background or anything running in low resolution... Is this normal or there's any problem with my display? Should I get my device replaced? Is anyone else is facing similar issue with mi 11x/poco f3/redmi k40 ? Is this MIUI issue and will it be solved if I install custom rom?
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turn of ai hdr enhancement in settings, it'll be around in display

K-scorpion said:
turn of ai hdr enhancement in settings, it'll be around in display
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I had turned it off immediately after using the phone for the first time ... but Still text is a lot more sharper than normal .. and there are artifacts around text (although minute but still there).

venomus001 said:
what phone did you use prior to mi 11x ?
PS: there is no such thing as sharpened display
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Lmao get out of here, never owned a TV or monitor in your life???
Sharpness doesn't exist because I never heard about it

Rstment ^m^ said:
Lmao get out of here, never owned a TV or monitor in your life???
Sharpness doesn't exist because I never heard about it
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this is not tv or monitor, phones generally don't have any Sharpness settings, pixels can be turned off or combined to the lower resolution, i simply wonder if op was using LCD or different ppi density prior to buying this phone

venomus001 said:
this is not tv or monitor, phones generally don't have any Sharpness settings, pixels can be turned off or combined to the lower resolution, i simply wonder if op was using LCD or different ppi density prior to buying this phone
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We don't have settings for sharpness indeed but manufacturer does . They can fine tune the display as they like...
Different phones can have different feels to them regardless of pixel density or panel type

Rstment ^m^ said:
We don't have settings for sharpness indeed but manufacturer does . They can fine tune the display as they like...
Different phones can have different feels to them regardless of pixel density or panel type
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Please refer below images. I have tried to capture the text fringing and white artifacts (light shadows) around black text with my old phone's camera.
I hope these images will give you better idea of what issue i am facing right now with AMOLED display.
The outcome required with this discussion would be to check if there is something wrong with my phone's display or this is generally normal with AMOLED displays.
And if there is some problem with sharpness, do i need to get it replaced???
P.S. - I have tried to capture the issue.. i don't know the pictures are doing the justice to reflect the issue but all these mentioned halo effects and text fringing are quite visible to the naked eyes.

My poco f3 also has this problem

this is a common problem with pentile AMOLED panels it seems. I am not sure why this still exists in 2021 though. Maybe Xiaomi and other Chinese brands are using low-quality panels. I checked a few phones. Newer Samsungs don't have this issue.
From what I searched it did popup in S3 when Samsung started using these panels first.
I checked Realme GT ME and MI 11x both and both had the same issue, whereas some old Vivo phones, MI A3, Samsung S5 were perfectly fine.
I think it's just cost-cutting from these brands to use lower-quality E4 panels.

wow... looking to my F3.... i see normal... cant see that very small haloing effect.
Try it with black text on white or white text on black also on setting menu...
Maybe my eyes not good anymore...

Your concerns are absolutely valid and the commentors claiming sharpness doesn't exist are noobs. I've had the same issues with Xiaomi phones. It's a little like a lottery. For the same model, some devices can get a high quality display and some units get a lower quality display where you can see it to be overtuned or artifacts.
Or there could be another possibility as widely discussed, Xiaomi takes displays from multiple manufacturers but ends up using the same fine tuning values for all the units of the model, for Eg Poco F3. As a result, your friend can have the exact same device and a perfect look display while you are left with a shady display with issues.

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thinking to buy mi max- screen quality doubt...

As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
regards
I ordered a Xiaomi Mi Max last weekend after reading the review linked below, the most incredibly comprehensive review I've ever seen of a smartphone. I'm still waiting on the phone, it is still being shuffled about China, so I can't give my own opinion of the screen yet.
Read review here:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1239-xiaomi-mi-max/
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
ivanox1972 said:
As written up- I consider buying max but most reviews said screen is not too good (not resolution but colors, they mostly say it is too bluish...)
Clearly, screen is main reason to buy this phone so this is deal breaker...
From owners- is it really so badly calibrated or bad itself?
I know that there is apk kcal for calibrating on low level qualcomm based phones screen (on cm or aosp). As there is cm13 for max, did anyone tried this?
any feedback is precious, thanks...
regards
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Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
audscott said:
Before my Mi Max 64 (pro) I used my Note 5. The note has a obviously better screen with higher resolution, but my Mi Max is no slouch. My complaint about the phone is the camera. While it takes well lit indoor/outdoor snaps of stationary targets, I found shooting my 4 month puppy (that didn't sound right), dodging and running was a near impossibility. Doesn't seem different camera app, ROM or update will solve the problem as it is hardware driven.
I'll be selling my Mi Max when another large screen phone with good camera comes around (Honor Note 8, Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra or Lenovo phab 2 pro), but meanwhile I love the large form factor an quick response of the SD 652.
But the screen: That's the last of my concerns. actually only the camera bothers me)
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Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
Wondering what do you guys expect from a under $300 phone... It has plenty for that price already.
thanks guys, it is not problem in expecting much for low money. I had almost all samsung flagships in last few years (s4, s6, note 1, note 3, note 4, now note 5). I want big screen- and is there better solution?
Huawei have some but software is terrible for my opinion... and no development at all...
I will, if buy max, install cm first minute- so how it works is there any major problem (autobrightness or big battery drain). Camera is last important for me...
ajsmsg78 said:
Don't worry about the screen, it's fine. I use Color Control from the Play Store to calibrate the saturation. Now it looks like an AMOLED minus the deep blacks. You'll be satisfied with the screen in the Mi Max.
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would you provide the link of this app?
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auldthief said:
Agree! Apart from the camera, this phone leaves little room for complaint. I was wondering if there is some way ige quality can be improved through some software tweak or better preset shooting mode configurations. Tried Open camera, CameraNext Mod and Focal. Did notice a slight difference. But low light photos still frankly suck when I compare it to my previous LG G Pro 2.
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you can try manual camera app to set shutter speed as high as possible to shot moving objects
hes_luckey said:
would you provide the link of this app?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.omegacentauri.red&hl=en
They have a free version and a pro version. I bought the pro version.
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
ivanox1972 said:
So this bluish cast or generally can be fixed? Screen is not bad, just not so good calibrated initially?
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Yes it can be adjusted. It's honestly not that bad even without adjustments.
Nothing wrong with the screen. I have never thought about wanting to calibrate it. I don't think it has a blue cast. My XA Ultra on the other hand...
I use the glare removal reading setting for apps that I spend a long time looking at. It adds a yellowish cast to the screen. I suffer insomnia so blue light is a concern for me. My sleep hasn't been great since buying the max but that's entirely due to not being able to put it down! I use twilight also to counter blue light at night.
I bought my Max (3/32) from Xiaomi Authorized store, and wanna say, it's not bluish! BUT, my friend got the "best" version, and the screen of his phone is... little yellow-ish, or something like that. He got his phone from Gearbest, that's what i know. Before Mi Max i used another phones with 6,44" screen size - Sony Z Ultra's. Every phone (i replaced 3) had differently calibrated screen. The best way is to get phone and (if you don't like calibration) tune screen for your preferences. We all have little different eyes.
Reviews really not like this screen, but ok.
I would go on cm13 of course: how is camera quality and autobrighness there?
Every phone has this problem on cm...
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
F27 said:
I thought the screen was pretty good, the reviewers must be spoilt constantly around $800 phones. For this price point I was quite impressed.
Does anyone know who makes the LCD panel?
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tianma r63350 1080p video mode dsi panel
Is kcal calibrating screen apk supported on cm 13- cm14? I do not know is it working on snapdragon 650/ 652?
Or any other app generally, how big improvement can be made on screen picture quality?
thanks

Text blurring when scrollen.

So i sold my Mi Mix 2 when this issue occur my question is do many of u have blurry text when scrolling?
Afaik that's because it's an IPS display which has the benefit of amazing color accuracy at the drawback of pixel response time.
It really bothered me when I first got the phone coming from an AMOLED phone, but after a few weeks I stopped noticing it. I have a really fast high-end TN panel for gaming on my PC, and looking at the colors between that and my phone are a really astounding difference.
I use my phone as a monitor for all photos and graphics I make for now (I'm not a professional so I don't need a specific high end monitor for this)
Yes the scrolling is blurring... With a little red ghosting too I notice (only I the dark I see that)
I understand it is an issue of the used lcd, but previously on my Xiaomi redmi note 4 I didn't had that issue so bad that I would notice also on my LG g6 it was not visible like on the Mi mix 2 even on a huawei p9 it was barely visible.
I noticed as well, but when I switched to the Oreo EU rom it was barely noticeable.
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
jal3223 said:
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
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unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
zigbug said:
unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
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Thanks for letting me know man. I hate to spend the money on getting a 2s if the issue is still present. I love everything else about the 2, so I may as well keep it if the issue remains. Thank you!
Is there a way to change this "ghosting" effect ? Even if it means more lags during scrolling ?
I come from an LG G3 whose screen was really better (good colors, no text ghosting..)

Contrast (true blacks)

How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Does anybody have colour blending (blacks) issues in mi 8 se? there is cloudy and dull black colour when watching videos, feels like there is too high contrast or something.
maketzu111 said:
Does anybody have colour blending (blacks) in mi 8 se? there is cloudy and dull black colour when watching videos, feels like there is too high contrast or something.
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Yeah, noticed something like this. When color shifts from deep black to a bit greyish black, there was something like that "cloudy" thing you said. Not sure what was it though. Although the black is really deep (as an AMOLED display should)
That is exactly what i have experienced. Hopefully Xiaomi fix this in future updates. There was same problem in Samsung Galaxy s9+ but it got fixed by update.
maketzu111 said:
That is exactly what i have experienced. Hopefully Xiaomi fix this in future updates. There was same problem in Samsung Galaxy s9+ but it got fixed by update.
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Which rom ? Maybe eu.rom is better.
gbrezak1 said:
Which rom ? Maybe eu.rom is better.
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I have Xiaomi.eu 10.0.1.0 stable. Now it appears that my mi 8 se have pretty bad Display Uniformity Issues which aren't uncommon in oled screens. It also looks lacking colors in dark pictures and in videos which is pretty annoying thing. I don't think it is rom issue. There is forum threads about samsung amoled screens issues (mi 8 se have samsung amoled display too). I'm pretty sure that my next phone will have ips display.
Not really, I just flash pixel experience ,but it never show me the Fack black(gray)
Kaichess said:
Not really, I just flash pixel experience ,but it never show me the Fack black(gray)
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Me too.. I just got a Mi 8 se from secondhand market. I think the display is replaced with tft or ips panel by the previous owner. But I'm just curious if my ROM is causing it to display gray-ish color. Even on boot logo
Did you also see the gray-ish color when the boot logo (Mi logo) appear?

Question Do I need to return my f3 because of the screen?

So I finally got my f3, it has been perfect in every aspect, even the screen looks good, but the eye fatigue is simply too much.
I have tried to reduce DPI to minimum, reduce brightness, use reading + paper mode. After these changes it did get noticeably better, but it is still annoying.
I have Samsung galaxy s5 that also has an amoled display, but I don't get the same issue there. Also regular laptop and computer monitors are fine.
So anything to do on the software side to make it better? If not, then what other similar phone would you recommend that has a different screen.
Have you tried enabling DC dimming? For some people (not everyone) the PWM flickering causes some discomfort. I can't see any difference, but I'm glad the option is there.
gondsman said:
Have you tried enabling DC dimming? For some people (not everyone) the PWM flickering causes some discomfort. I can't see any difference, but I'm glad the option is there.
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F3 does not have DC dimming.
The option is there on custom roms, I assumed it was available on stock as well.
Do you know why you have eye fatique? What's the problem?
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Do you know why you have eye fatique? What's the problem?
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The text and screen looks somehow muddy compared to LCD screen. Text is not as sharp, or at least eyes feel so, and it is harder to focus to text and objects.
Yes, the screen looks impressive, but can't really use it.
LCD screens are always sharper than their OLED counterparts, but hey there might be a slight problem with your eyes or maybe you've got sensitive eyes. therefore, I can only suggest that you get an LCD device or test an oled before buying. btw I have no problem with the panel even though I prefer LCD panels (no burn in issues in LCDs etc.).
there is still one small thing that I have noticed, there a very slight white line/shadow under the black text and it's more noticeable when the text is bigger like when Im in settings, all the titles or texts seem to have that white shadow under them. Has any of you noticed that? I might make a thread for it later but I just dont care. the screen is waaaay better than my last OLED which was ROG phone 2 with red tint and huge bandings and awful black crush issues...
Kianush said:
LCD screens are always sharper than their OLED counterparts, but hey there might be a slight problem with your eyes or maybe you've got sensitive eyes. therefore, I can only suggest that you get an LCD device or test an oled before buying. btw I have no problem with the panel even though I prefer LCD panels (no burn in issues in LCDs etc.).
there is still one small thing that I have noticed, there a very slight white line/shadow under the black text and it's more noticeable when the text is bigger like when Im in settings, all the titles or texts seem to have that white shadow under them. Has any of you noticed that? I might make a thread for it later but I just dont care. the screen is waaaay better than my last OLED which was ROG phone 2 with red tint and huge bandings and awful black crush issues...
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I personally use Syberia and have no problems with shadows under text.
Thankfully, I don't have eye strain.
Never had a problem on my end you might want to bust some glasses

Question Red Magic 8 Pro selfie display

I got my Red Magic 8 Pro EU 256gb 12gb today.
While I was testing it I noticed the selfie camera display shows up in alot of situations, like on grey situations the display turns green at low and max brightness.
Anyone with the same problem?
Hi!
you reach out to the manufacturer or retailer to report the issue and see if it can be resolved. If the device is still under warranty, they may be able to repair or replace it for you.
Same issue here, but looks more like a software issue to me.
When you touch the screen, the camera overlaying part flickers and settles after a second to the color it should have. Perhaps they just need to speed up this process.
If on the other hand you mean a permanent mismatch, they just need to recalibrate.
Either way it is fixable by just software.
This is just some examples, that display covering the selfie shows up alot for me.
Okay i see, yours is quite more visible than mine. Mine is only really visible in dark gray background, but does not have this green tone to it.
Mine also has it although it's just visible when the brightness is from 0 to 15, and I think it's perfectly normal.
Green tint is more visible when the display is set to 120hz, and lightens or "flickers" when idle because it switches to 60hz to lessen power consumption.
Dogan_M95 said:
Same issue here, but looks more like a software issue to me.
When you touch the screen, the camera overlaying part flickers and settles after a second to the color it should have. Perhaps they just need to speed up this process.
If on the other hand you mean a permanent mismatch, they just need to recalibrate.
Either way it is fixable by just software.
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The grint tint is more visible on higher refresh rate. It "flickers" because once the display is idle, it switches to 60hz to save battery.
I am starting to be glad that I missed the first shipment... as days pass by more and more issues come up with this phone.
First this display issue that the camera is visible and in another thread overheating issue.
Reviewers said that the camera is not visible during normal usage and only in really heavy sunligh from the side and they showed 97% stability in 3DMark.... both have been disproved by users feedback here on XDA.
fejerm said:
I am starting to be glad that I missed the first shipment... as days pass by more and more issues come up with this phone.
First this display issue that the camera is visible and in another thread overheating issue.
Reviewers said that the camera is not visible during normal usage and only in really heavy sunligh from the side and they showed 97% stability in 3DMark.... both have been disproved by users feedback here on XDA.
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Perhaps they're using it with high brightness that's why they did not notice it. Well, I'm hoping it's not a factory defect or whatnot. Haha.
My camera is only visible on very low brightness levels, and I also haven't noticed any overheating problem. The only pet peeve I have about it is, that there's no global audio equalizer, only in game space. And that one disables once you put the phone in standby.
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My camera is only visible on very low brightness levels, and I also haven't noticed any overheating problem. The only pet peeve I have about it is, that there's no global audio equalizer, only in game space. And that one disables once you put the phone in standby.
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That is disappointing, it should not be visible at all, expesially not in low lit enviroment.
Same issues, combined with weird brightness flicker and other software issues... pretty disappointed, hopefully they will be able to fix those issues... coz otherwise phone is pretty good, software is garbage tho
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Okay i see, yours is quite more visible than mine. Mine is only really visible in dark gray background, but does not have this green tone to it.
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Phone was perfectly fine when I got it Yesterday and now when I look at it Today it has that weird Greenish tint on the selfie camera screen.
I noticed it before i even came here!
Its not as bad a the first post Picture, its more like this post I'm replying to.
Really noticeable on Android dark mode grey color.
hopfully its not a hardware defect!!!
I just got this thing!
CptNight said:
Phone was perfectly fine when I got it Yesterday and now when I look at it Today it has that weird Greenish tint on the selfie camera screen.
I noticed it before i even came here!
Its not as bad a the first post Picture, its more like this post I'm replying to.
Really noticeable on Android dark mode grey color.
hopfully its not a hardware defect!!!
I just got this thing!
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Yeah. I've also sent them an email regarding this, waiting for their reply. I hope it's just a software defect, and seems that a lot of users experience this.
Update: Apparently, the green tint issue on the UDC is normal according to Nubia's support team.
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Update: Apparently, the green tint issue on the UDC is normal according to Nubia's support team.View attachment 5833575
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Wow so they dodged responsibility and just say its normal... I am thonking about canceling my order, this is unaccaptable.
Well i just did a live chat about this issue and they Elevated my issue and will get back to me.
So we will see if i get the same response!
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What i want to understand is, if is only some units or all have this problem
Aviver said:
What i want to understand is, if is only some units or all have this problem
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All of the units have this issue.

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