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S Voice

So I had heard from everyone how bad S-voice is and I almost didn't even use it. However, I started using it yesterday and so far it's great. It transcribes me almost perfectly and it is much easier to send text messages and call people versus remembering the exact syntax for google search. Also, the ability to snooze my alarm this morning without having to fumble half-asleep for my phone by simply saying "Snooze" is amazing. Has one else been pleasantly surprised as well?
Bottom line -- this phone just keeps getting better.
PS Is there anyway to use the voice controls that Samsung has for the stock music app for the google music app? Or is there a way to connect the samsung music player to my google music songs in the cloud? Thanks

Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).

Rockasama said:
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?

I usually use and prefer Google Now, but have used S-voice to add appointments to my calendar as Google Now doesn't do it directly. S-voice is also the default voice command app when I use my Bluetooth headset, and it works well for calls.
But in general it's MUCH slower than Google Now to find or look up things (weather, local restaurants).

Milkman00 said:
Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?
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I would like to know this as well, or if anyone has some tips of how to access google now quickly.
Right now I have the shortcut on my lockscreen, the google search bar on my homescreen, and can long-press the menu button from the homescreen. None of these methods seems to directly activate Google Now to listen to me though, I still have to tap the microphone. I'd like to be able to use it like I did with Siri on my iPhone...

check out home2shortcut app on play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...0.appspot.home2shortcut&feature=search_result

Milkman00 said:
Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?
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lmike6453 said:
check out home2shortcut app on play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...0.appspot.home2shortcut&feature=search_result
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Excellent suggestion. Thank you. It does add in a slight delay now when I press the home button, but being able to double-tap to Voice Search is awesome. Wish it would work on the lockscreen too...

UCLAKoolman said:
Right now I have the shortcut on my lockscreen, the google search bar on my homescreen, and can long-press the menu button from the homescreen. None of these methods seems to directly activate Google Now to listen to me though[.] I still have to tap the microphone.
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In Google Voice Search Menu>Settings>Voice, select Hotword Detection. Then when you start Google Voice Search, you can say "Google" instead of tapping the mic to get started.

Guys, if you are at home already, click and hold menu key, launches Google Now. Then no delay on home key. But now you have some options
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hrivner said:
PS Is there anyway to use the voice controls that Samsung has for the stock music app for the google music app? Or is there a way to connect the samsung music player to my google music songs in the cloud? Thanks
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I froze the stock music player with Titanium BU and tested with S voice (hoping to get a prompt to choose a music player) and it just sits there
Google now, say "play Journey" it will prompt which music player you want to use (as long as you have a few options) and then you'd be set.

Rockasama said:
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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Wow. That helped a lot since I'm not a s voice fan. Thanks for the tip!
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Long press the menu button & Google now/search will come up
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Rockasama said:
Guys, if you are at home already, click and hold menu key, launches Google Now. Then no delay on home key. But now you have some options
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I froze the stock music player with Titanium BU and tested with S voice (hoping to get a prompt to choose a music player) and it just sits there
Google now, say "play Journey" it will prompt which music player you want to use (as long as you have a few options) and then you'd be set.
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Google now isnt google search tho.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

So far I am finding S Voice much more useful for activity integrated to the device wheras google Now is more useful for searches.
Example With Svoice I can ask for a particualr song and it will play it. Same to launch an app or text someone check schedule.....
I am finding that with Google now it will launch music player to a group but not a specific song etc.....

Thanks! OP!!!!! That was an incredible piece of info.

Rockasama said:
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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This does remove the lag, but it also (for my ROM anyway), changes how a press of the home button functions when your screen is off.
With this option unchecked, a press of the home button when the screen is off opens to my home screen, rather than just waking the device to display the last app you were running when display was turned off (very annoying for me). Thus, I have just been dealing with the lag to get the desired wake screen behavior. If anyone knows a way around this, it would be appreciated.

VTEChump said:
This does remove the lag, but it also (for my ROM anyway), changes how a press of the home button functions when your screen is off.
With this option unchecked, a press of the home button when the screen is off opens to my home screen, rather than just waking the device to display the last app you were running when display was turned off (very annoying for me). Thus, I have just been dealing with the lag to get the desired wake screen behavior. If anyone knows a way around this, it would be appreciated.
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I actually posted a thread about how the home button removes everything and takes me to the home screen immediately. I guess this was the culprit. Hmmmmm.....

"Ok Google" vs camera voice control since Lollipop

Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?

Gary02468 said:
Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.

Kamau54 said:
Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
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It turns off when I disable S Voice. If I try to turn it back on, it tells me I need to enable S Voice first.
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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And does that let you use "Ok Google" recognition from all screens (including the lockscreen)? For me, that option in the Google Now settings is greyed out unless I disable S Voice.

No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.

Exactly correct.

erick161 said:
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
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Works great. Thank you!

Ok Google Fix
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.

tampa8 said:
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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Used to
Worked at stage 3. Reenabling S Voice rebroke OkGoogle. RE Disabled S Voice. All that's changed is either the screen must be on or it must be plugged in. Like my Note Pro. Used to just need to be on..screen off and all.

That's a change with Lollipop and not a "problem." (now it is screen on or charging) It appears Ok Google no longer works with the screen off by design, at least on the Note 4.
I can keep S Voice on after doing the steps. (Though I have since turned it off) Try doing all the steps and while in safe mode turn off then on the settings. It's possible this makes Ok Google the "default" over S Voice.

Can you make the google assistant button do other things?

I'm going to assume no since nobody has responded but maybe we should look into this, would be nice to have a way to use it another app launch or camera or something, even mute/unmute or something might be nice.

I'm sure there is a way to do this in Tasker. It will interrupt the assistant "call", and replace it with any other "call". The fun part is going to be finding a script for it.

The problem is it calls a specific app, I found an app on xda for remapping the assistant button but what it does is change itself to the default assistant, then automatically does whatever you set it to do instead of launching itself when you call the default assistant. However Samsung and LG in their infinite wisdom specifically call the default "google" app with the hardware button so all doing this does is disable that button. If you long press home it does open whatever app you tell it to instead of the google assistant but not if you push the hardware button. DUMB

If I remember correctly, Tasker can interrupt any call...

KronicSkillz said:
The problem is it calls a specific app, I found an app on xda for remapping the assistant button but what it does is change itself to the default assistant, then automatically does whatever you set it to do instead of launching itself when you call the default assistant. However Samsung and LG in their infinite wisdom specifically call the default "google" app with the hardware button so all doing this does is disable that button. If you long press home it does open whatever app you tell it to instead of the google assistant but not if you push the hardware button. DUMB
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Actually on Samsung devices, it's easy to remap the Bixby button in order to do whatever you want.
Some useful apps are available to give you plenty of choice even though Samsung recently added the option to remap it for some specific tasks (I think it's open the camera app, Google Assistant in stead of Bixby or simply deactivate the button).
On my Galaxy S8 I had before and on the Note 8 of a friend of mine, we were able to set the button as changing the sound status from sound/vibrate/Nothing, make a specific action when double pressed or long pressed. All that without any Bixby ugly stuff or annoying Google Assistant actions.
I never tried on LG smartphones even if there is an option to deactivate the button in the settings.

melvinmajor said:
Actually on Samsung devices, it's easy to remap the Bixby button in order to do whatever you want.
Some useful apps are available to give you plenty of choice even though Samsung recently added the option to remap it for some specific tasks (I think it's open the camera app, Google Assistant in stead of Bixby or simply deactivate the button).
On my Galaxy S8 I had before and on the Note 8 of a friend of mine, we were able to set the button as changing the sound status from sound/vibrate/Nothing, make a specific action when double pressed or long pressed. All that without any Bixby ugly stuff or annoying Google Assistant actions.
I never tried on LG smartphones even if there is an option to deactivate the button in the settings.
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Ty for info sir

melvinmajor said:
Actually on Samsung devices, it's easy to remap the Bixby button in order to do whatever you want.
Some useful apps are available to give you plenty of choice even though Samsung recently added the option to remap it for some specific tasks (I think it's open the camera app, Google Assistant in stead of Bixby or simply deactivate the button).
On my Galaxy S8 I had before and on the Note 8 of a friend of mine, we were able to set the button as changing the sound status from sound/vibrate/Nothing, make a specific action when double pressed or long pressed. All that without any Bixby ugly stuff or annoying Google Assistant actions.
I never tried on LG smartphones even if there is an option to deactivate the button in the settings.
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What useful apps are/were you using?

Shtiff1 said:
What useful apps are/were you using?
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On Samsung, it was BxActions (with adb permission).
On LG, I'm currently fine with the native options (Settings > Extensions > Shortcuts).

melvinmajor said:
On Samsung, it was BxActions (with adb permission).
On LG, I'm currently fine with the native options (Settings > Extensions > Shortcuts).
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Yah I was trying to remap assistant key. But the shortcuts only allow you to turn it on or off.

Apparently, by rooting the phone (it was possible on the V40 and G7 as far as I noticed and someone somehow managed to do it on the V50), you can use "Automate" and kill the Google Assistant app as soon as it's launched (just the part launched by the button) and launch something else in stead.
As LG phones aren't mine (the ownership is LG, I just receive them until the next one arrive), my contract doesn't allow me to root or flash the main device without any authorization explicitly given by them.
Some research here on XDA gave the info in a matter of time: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/how-to/project-remap-google-assistant-key-t3934930

How to deactivate OK Google

Hi,
Is there a way to deactivate OK Google when pressing the crown?
I keep pressing it by accident all the time.
Thanks

you can use an app like "Wear Button Remapper" and change the long press to set other app or nothing.
Note if you deactivate long press for Google assistant, it deactivate also Google assistant for other way like press the "Mic" icon.

Go to google assistant > setting > disable

Grace18 said:
it's just settings of google assistant, nothing complicated
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There are no "Google Assistant" app on a Wear Watch, so no "Settings" for an app wich is not on the watch. It is a system inside app like the one on Google Home pod. There are just a setting to disable voice command "OK Google" on a Wear Watch. Even if you disable Google Assistant in one of your phone all the Google Home in the House are not disabled and also not disabled on your others phones.

one of the ways to disable it:
Settings - Tap the General tab - Under "Personal“ find "Language and Input“ - Find "Google voice typing“ and tap the Settings button (cog icon)
Tap "Ok Google“ Detection
Under the "From the Google app“ option, move the slider to the left.
That's it, you have successfully turned OK Google off.

Setting=> google assistant=>disable this.

Question Anyone know of a quick way to enable/disable "Hey Google"?

As the title suggests, anyone know of a quick way to achieve this?
I'd love something like a quick toggle or widget.
It may be possible to add a shortcut to the activity, via a custom launcher like Nova, to bring up the Google Assistant settings menu. Which would offer some speed compared manually navigating there.
Though if someone knows of a widget or quick toggle addition which I've not been able to find, let us know!
Also similarly, how do find the battery hit, if any, by having "Hey Google" voice activation running all the time?

Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.

blackhawk said:
Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.
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Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible

cd993 said:
Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible
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Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled

blackhawk said:
Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled
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I certainly understand peoples hesitancy with Google and such privacy concerns, but I for one aren't that fussed.... I have my speakers listening and it doesn't bother me....
Each to their own though and yeah I can see why you and others choose to disable such features entirely

it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.

Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?

Az Biker said:
Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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No, they're talking about the ability to say "Hey Google" or "Okay Google" to get their phone to start listening. The previous poster's suggestion about the Mic access Quick Tile might be the best answer.
The OP is looking for a way to temporarily turn off it's ability to be woken up by voice command, and to just as easily re-enable it.

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it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.
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This is kind of a solution, though this would also disable all mic access presumably and not just per-app, so I'd need to toggle it back on to make phone calls etc.
I probably just need to not be lazy and manually go to the setting when needed lol

Az Biker said:
Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant

cd993 said:
Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant
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Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off

Lughnasadh said:
Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off
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Thanks for this, will have a look into it.
Appreciated!