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[Q] Battery life on the Tab Pro 8.4

The 8.4" should be the perfect size... But the 4800 mah battery doesn't look too promising on paper.
It's about the same as the note 8 and has a bigger/much higher resolution screen and a faster SoC... and the battery on the Note 8 wasn't great to begin with.
Any idea how the the tab Pro will fare?
Apple increased the weight/thickness to maintain the battery life on the mini with retina display... Wonder if Samsung should've done something similar.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...F8&qid=1391889878&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+8.4
According to the product description in Amazon it's up to 6 hours..!! Wth samsung this is ridiculous, I want to buy this tablet but now I must looking for alternatives

6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.

rkial said:
6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.
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No, it does NOT sound good...
What are they thinking...?
Isn't "Grab-it-in-the-morning-till-recharge-it-in-the-evening" a self-imposed, crystal-clear specification by now?
Don't design teams use these kind of devices, themselves?....What the....!?
XK

Looking at the official samsung website, it lists the tab at 12 hrs for video playback and 10hrs for browsing
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Battery Type and Size 5.3 Volt, Lithium Ion, 4800 mAh
Music Play Time Up to 127 hours*
Video Play Time Up to 12 hours*
Internet Use Time Up to 10 hours*
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That is iPad mini levels. Don't expect that. Even if its 80% of what they claim, it'll be good enough.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-T320NZWAXAR-specs

Well GSMArena got 7:30 for both video playback and web browsing. In my opinion I am fairly disappointed as that is clearly the Achilles of this tablet. People with mixed usage should expect 4-5 hours of screen time which is like 60% of the battery life on the iPad mini.
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I am extremely disappointed too.
It's inadmissible that by wanting to match or undercut competition by 1 or 2mm in relates to device thickness they're willing to cripple it like this.
Because this is what we're talking about: 1 couple more millimeters in the battery thickness and most probably a very significant mAh bump could be attained.
Let's see if this is not DOA because of this. The "A"-cult reviewers, always already so accolades-limited when talking about Samsung products, will have a ball with this one, that's for sure.
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Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.

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rkial said:
Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.
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Please don't do this. Relativise shortcomings of a device is an Apple-cult thing.
This can be a disaster. The only thing that can save it from a disaster is if both the screen and processor prove out to be extremely frugal in what relates to power consumption.
I'll give you an example of a real-life severe inconvenience of the short battery life in my otherwise amazing Tab 7.7:
While in a foreign country, using it as a navigator with both WI-Fi and GPS turned on (for Google maps full use) or even with just GPS activated (for Co-Pilot usage) my tab dies 1/2 to 3/4 into our daily run-abouts, at the precise moment we are becoming tired, less vigilant and acute-deductive, the time of the day when we usually need it most.
...And since we're talking about shortcomings, although the GSM rates the 8.4 display as "amazing" I see that a crucial parameter for photography (my main hobby and the one I subject all my purchases in this area to) and high-resolution movies viewing is also not that impressive. The contrast ration is rated at 1:822 / 1:830, right in the same range as Retina ones (with these actually having lower black levels).
One of the reasons I elected the 7.7 as my tab and why I love it is the practically infinite contrast ratio, something that makes movies and photographs "pop" like nothing else on the market.
I understand that, not featuring an Super-AMOLED screen, the 8.4 could never deliver those levels of contrast, but....1:830?
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Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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msavic6 said:
Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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I will wait too but one thing is already clear: Running times won't be impressive.
Samsung is playing with fire here.
While this whole tab thing was in inception/infancy it was OK to come short on this (...or tapping the "models explosion" approach...). People would go "it's OK, they're probing approaches".
But as "mobile devicery" reaches it's adult stage, with users approaching the acquisition of models the same way they do the replacement of their TV sets, refrigerators or cars, they running the palpable risk of having users deep imprinting the notion: "Samsung...Yeah, they're OK but their running times suck".
Once this mind set reaches the majority of the potential market there will be no turning back. It won't matter then that they come up with a tab or a smartphone that can run 5 days without recharging, it will still be perceived as "Meh!".
American cars were once found to be "gas guzzlers". It doesn't matter that the US auto industry now makes models as frugal as anyone else. Worldwide consumers still perceive them that way and that is killing the perfect option US auto makers could resort to in order to swiftly circumvent the disaster that befell upon them: Neutralize domestic sales drops by going global.
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6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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Class_of_punk26 said:
6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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6 hrs is not bad on its own but when other devices can get nearly double that, it becomes pretty pathetic.
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That's true but this is kinda my only option cuz I have to have the latest processor and best screen and graphics at a cheap price so I can finally get rid of my laggy nexus 7
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I have owned the 8.4 since the summer, and have had an average mixed usage battery life of about ten hours. This includes being connected to WiFi, watching YouTube and browsing the web, and cooing over cat pics on social media apps. It's not as utterly disappointing as you make it out to be. It doesn't last as long when watching YouTube at 1080p60 or playing a resource-intensive game like WoT or RR3, but that is to be expected.
Lighten up, yeah?

Question Pixel 6 Pro 5005 mAh vs. iPhone 13 Pro Max 4352 mAh

I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!

Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options

Wait till the reviews on monday

combat goofwing said:
Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options
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you mean for the iphone 13 pro has limited features due to large storage?

dj24 said:
I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!
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Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.

lucky_strike33 said:
you mean for the iphone 13 pro has limited features due to large storage?
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Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that

combat goofwing said:
Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that
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Without really giving a crap, I'm going to guess that they are going to claim that its because the flash chips are in RAID-0 so won't be fast enough without the bigger (more chips) option.

96carboard said:
Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.
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I agree with most of what you said. Pixels have undoubtedly been the camera champs maybe equaled by more recent Huawei flagships. However there's no question that iPhones have had the best video quality of any one out there for a while now. This is all here and there and I don't really care that much anymore because the gap isn't that big unless you're an enthusiast or someone zooming or pixel peeping (which I'm not... for the most part }
I also agree with you about apps in general but you can nowadays put them in deep sleep so they barely use any in the background for the most part. I don't use a lot of apps but it's interesting since you bring up a good point as to whether ios does a better job than android when it comes to battery optimization. I'll have to do more research on that.
I think different companies like Motorolla, Realme and others have great battery optimization while the mainstream ones less so. Now Apple seems to have made a leap in this regard too. Gsmarena has a great tool to measure overall battery life and just look at this list where android phones (mostly not found stateside) dominate.

Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.

hello00 said:
Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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That's why they call it Iphonie!

Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!

DinarQ8 said:
Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
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Because youre not always near a plug socket

hello00 said:
Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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You're right but talking strictly flagship they've been incrementally improving since the 11 Pro Max. The 13 Pro Max has taken a drastic step forward even more so where I feel mainstream android in general (like Samsung) have to respond or they're going to lose potentially more people like me.
Anyways I see so far no one is predicting how the 6 pro's battery life will compare to the 13 max Pro.
I'll take a leap and say I think the tensor chip coupled with the LTPO display with google's clean android overlay will match the iphone 13 max's battery life

DinarQ8 said:
Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
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In this COVID day and age where everyone is staying home mostly- not so much. But once you start going outside more you'll need it. Especially if you're an outdoors person like me.
I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds. There was a time during a camping trip back in the day when out in the middle of nowhere, everyone's phone died after the first day. Everyone used mine for the next few days. I got lucky when a certain gorgeous gal walked in my tent in the middle of the night to use it and decided to stay after.... aah those were the days
Sorry... friday afternoon and I just popped open my 4th beer

The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u

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The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u
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Wait, you can't be serious? The S21 ultra can't hold a candle to the 13 Pro Max and it's not even close. It might compared to the lesser iPhone 13 models but that's not a fair comparison by any sense of the imagination.

I almost went Iphone 13 pro max this gen. Almost. You know why I didn't? No fingerprint sensor. I'm not about to go back to entering my pin every time I want to open my device and masks make face recognition worthless.

Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though

lawtq said:
Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though.
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Do you have the 13 pro max?

dj24 said:
I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds.
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We all missd these days
For me, there will be no difference in battery life if there is an hour or hour and a half increase
I won't be outside for 24 hours and when I go out I don't use the phone for more than 6 hours

Question Battery Life 6 vs 6 ro

How's everyones battery life? I've got a pixel 6 and a pixel 6 pro here. Accubattery on the pixel 6 says 12h screen on time. On the pixel 6 pro it's says 6 hours ish.
i'm sure this is a fault of accubattery, but just thought i'd check to see what people are getting.

Report back with a few days of actual use since you own both and share your hands on experience comparing the pro and non pro

going to do a test tomorrow with youtube running etc on both from 100%

Install GSam battery monitor for better battery usage measurements

It would be appreciated if you can show how much time was spent at which CPU state frequency
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I easily get 2 full days between charges with approximately 8 hours total sot. YMMV depending on what you do and how you do it.

That GSAM battery report ( looks very nice ! ! ! ) only works on rooted, right ?

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That GSAM battery report ( looks very nice ! ! ! ) only works on rooted, right ?
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Nope, you can use an ADB command to get detailed stats

kboya said:
I easily get 2 full days between charges with approximately 8 hours total sot. YMMV depending on what you do and how you do it.
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That's insane battery.

Had youtube running for 90 mins so far on each. Identical vieos, identical brightness, same apps on both. The Pixel 6 is on 95%, the pixel 6 pro is on 91%. I know that's not indicative of anything as its too early, but so far its backing up what accubattery says that the 6 will last twice as long as the 6 pro.

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Had youtube running for 90 mins so far on each. Identical vieos, identical brightness, same apps on both. The Pixel 6 is on 95%, the pixel 6 pro is on 91%. I know that's not indicative of anything as its too early, but so far its backing up what accubattery says that the 6 will last twice as long as the 6 pro.
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It must not be lowering framerate while watching youtube. Can you check on both phones what the framerate is.

After the 14mb update yesterday, my P6P's battery life is bad. In 7 hours since full charge and the phone is at 47%. Maybe 5 photos, no more than an hour of screen time and an hour of youtube streaming with the screen off (listening while exercising).
Keep going back and forth about returning it and getting the iPhone 13 Max.

Do i need to install an app to do that?
Nothing makes sense with the 6. In the battery estimation in the phones setting (may not be accurate) at 90% the non pro 6 states over 2 days usage. The 6 pro states 19 hours at similar battery level. Using accubattery, the non pro 6 says i'll get 12h SOT (i doubt this) but the 6 pro states 5h.
Battery levels are now levelling off however, the non pro 6 is at 90%, the 6 pro is at 85%.

My battery was solid on my 128gb and the same is true on my 256gb. Today is my first day on it, and it's giving me the same type of battery life. Best of all, it hasn't had time to learn my pattern. Even so, I got over 17 hours of battery with over 6 hours of talk time and over 3.5 hours of screen.
I took the phone off the charger around 6am, used GPS, listened to podcasts for hours, talked on the phone for hours, did some web browsing, played a game a little bit, and did more GPS and never touched a charger today. Fast forward to around 12:30 at night, and I'm just now having to charge it. That's solid!

We already have a dedicated battery life thread spanning more than a dozen pages.
Battery life thread
My battery life is not great. Became worse after rooting. Better than my 4XL, but not getting "all day plus" battery life. What are others experiencing? 🙏🙏🙏 For some magic by the great @Freak07...
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Please continue your discussion there.
We don't need a dozen threads about the same topic, the forum is already confusing enough because XDA mods don't like the old subforum style anymore.

Morgrain said:
We already have a dedicated battery life thread spanning more than a dozen pages.
Battery life thread
My battery life is not great. Became worse after rooting. Better than my 4XL, but not getting "all day plus" battery life. What are others experiencing? 🙏🙏🙏 For some magic by the great @Freak07...
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Please continue your discussion there.
We don't need a dozen threads about the same topic, the forum is already confusing enough because XDA mods don't like the old subforum style anymore.
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I did search, and actually a battery life thread was hard to find. Besides which, are you aware that you can have different variants of the same subject? They dont always intertwine and one can go down a completely different path to the other. This particular thread for example is about the difference between the 6 and 6 pro battery life.
I ran an owners group forum with thousands of members for many years. Guess what.. we had different threads covering different aspects of the same subject ! And no one got confused !!

The 6 pro has now levelled out. The 6 is at 68% and the 6 pro is at 58%, with identical usage. I guess with a few tweaks the pro would match the 6 for battery, but the 6 definitely has the better life.

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I did search, and actually a battery life thread was hard to find. Besides which, are you aware that you can have different variants of the same subject? They dont always intertwine and one can go down a completely different path to the other. This particular thread for example is about the difference between the 6 and 6 pro battery life.
I ran an owners group forum with thousands of members for many years. Guess what.. we had different threads covering different aspects of the same subject ! And no one got confused !!
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If you want a dedicated thread to specifically address the battery life difference between the P6 & P6 Pro, you should edit your thread title accordingly, as of this moment it's called "Battery Life" - and we already have a thread dedicated to the "general" topic of battery life (called "Battery life thread", lol).

nah i'm fine

freeflyer said:
How's everyones battery life? I've got a pixel 6 and a pixel 6 pro here. Accubattery on the pixel 6 says 12h screen on time. On the pixel 6 pro it's says 6 hours ish.
i'm sure this is a fault of accubattery, but just thought i'd check to see what people are getting.
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My first 3 days were terrible. After 7-10 days, then I started to see what my real usage would be.
Remember to keep in mind that AccuBattery gives you maximum estimates for screen on and screen off. So that would be 100% fully screen on or 100% fully screen off. The more important numbers are the combined use estimate (which has been pretty dead accurate to me saying 16-17 hours which I am getting with a full charge) and the average battery usage %/h. I do like how the app only uses your last 7 days to keep the averages and estimates recent. Would be nice if they can have a 5 day or 3 day view though.

Question How is the phone now? Considering switching

So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.

I've not had any of the issues others had on this phone. Battery life is decent for me plenty of sot over a days worth. Just recently got the 12L beta and using it as a daily driver with no issues

Yep I too confirm that I don't have the experiences others have. I've had great experience with my 6 pro and love this phone.

The first phone I had was terrible, the 2nd one I smashed in a fit of rage. Now the third one I have has been AWESOME.
I really enjoy the reliability of it. Super quick phone for my needs.

My wife and I have loved ours all along, for closer to four months now (over 3 1/2 months). We haven't had any major issues at all, including the fingerprint readers.

First pixel and have never had a problem, seems the issues are way overblown like every new popular device, they'll all move to the next major release for free clickbait and money

KageBeast said:
So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.
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The P6 Pro's display is likely to be inferior to the S21U's in color rendering index and white point.
It's a problem common to all variable refresh rate displays, they are much more problematic to calibrate. Samsung is at the top of the game for doing this.
Samsung gives you countless free themes, icon packs, even virtual buttons if you want plus the Good Lock customization apps. Customization with a Samsung shouldn't be an issue.
Until something clearly better comes along I would wait however...
If you're hell bent on a P6 Pro, get it.
Life is short, enjoy it. The phone is with you most of the time.

If you currently have the S21U then moving to the p6p isn't really that much of an upgrade.
The p6p camera is marginally better at best.
Like previously stated above and I confirm the screen on my S21U looks way better than the p6p.
The only reason I'd recommend the p6p is if you just like pure android.
This is just my take on it.
I do own both.

Despite my original P6P going bad (touch screen issues) after a month or so of owning it. With my replacement, I couldn't be happier. Battery life is great, performance is solid, and I have zero issues. The 12L Beta 3 feels like how this phone should have been at launch.

I love it, it's my first high refresh rate! Before I was using 60hz

sultan.of.swing said:
If you currently have the S21U then moving to the p6p isn't really that much of an upgrade.
The p6p camera is marginally better at best.
Like previously stated above and I confirm the screen on my S21U looks way better than the p6p.
The only reason I'd recommend the p6p is if you just like pure android.
This is just my take on it.
I do own both.
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Yeah I do know samsung has the best screens and sorry I wasn't looking for an upgrade just a change of pace really. My last phone was the s20 fe and then before that I had a oneplus phone which I really loved. I do love samsung and know their phones are fantastic but yeah I do love pure android. Thank you for your response.

Thank you everyone for your reply/input! My last pixel phone was the 2xl and I've been craving to have another pixel so I may give this a shot. Like blackhawk said life is short so might as well pick what I want and not worry too much about having the best or whatever.

Never had a problem with mine. I replaced my Xperia 1 lll with this and I don't regret it at all. Would have been nice of the screen was flat but all in all great phone. I installed the Whitestone dome tempered glass and it's perfect

My primary P6P issue has been connectivity. I can't say it is only the modem and software. With 5G on, it is a battery vampire. However, I think constant bouncing between cell towers where I live is a contributor.
I wish I could say I haven't had other issues with the monthly updates. November was fine, however the following introduced or exacerbated ill behavior.
Bluetooth worked flawlessly until February's update.
Anyway, good luck!

P6P is awesome. I bought out my OnePlus 9($517) traded it in for $600 towards my pixel 6 pro. Sold my S21 Ultra in the process. Battery on the S21 Ultra was complete @$$. Super happy with my phone as the battery lasts a full shift of work with close to 8hr SOT. Got my wife the S22 Ultra that arrives on Monday.
Get the phone that suits you and your needs. I like simplicity and I'm tired of flashing roms to get a Pixel UI so why not just buy a Pixel haha. That's just me

KageBeast said:
So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.
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For now same bugs, just few of its:
1. Battery life is not good
2. Fast charge is not fast, because when battery temperature come to 100F charging current decreases to 0,9A
3. 5G/volte/vowifi work only in supported and few other country (volte/viwifi you can enable with root, 5g-no)
4. FoD work more good that on start, but not great.
5. No faceid
6. Signal level is less, than on Samsung in same situation.
7. AoD has no settings at all
8. For connecting 3.5 or headset you need DAC, other headset and type-c->3.5 would not work.
Absolutly no reasons to switch from Samsung S21U to Pixel 6/pro. I want to switch back to Samsung.

I just got mine a few days ago (256gb version from Germany as only 128gb version is available in France).
I'm a bit disappointed I must admit. I knew there was a chance of having some issues as I did a lot of research before buying, but there are a lot of people very happy so I took a chance.
I don't have any of the real bugs others do (wifi, Bluetooth disconnects,etc) so I am lucky in that respect, but the FP scanner, charging speed and battery life alone show that Google made a cheap phone, not a flagship.
Coming from a OnePlus 8, the pill is kinda hard to swallow.
I like the design and really hope the experience will improve, but I think the issues I have are hardware related so can't really be fixed (FP and old Samsung modem).
Android 12 will of course improve over time (I just reverted from 12L beta last night - wanted to see if FP and/or battery life improved with second Feb update - I can't draw any conclusions yet).
I still don't get how during 2 hours of airplane mode, the battery is showing mobile network at 36%.
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joaste said:
I just got mine a few days ago (256gb version from Germany as only 128gb version is available in France).
I'm a bit disappointed I must admit. I knew there was a chance of having some issues as I did a lot of research before buying, but there are a lot of people very happy so I took a chance.
I don't have any of the real bugs others do (wifi, Bluetooth disconnects,etc) so I am lucky in that respect, but the FP scanner, charging speed and battery life alone show that Google made a cheap phone, not a flagship.
Coming from a OnePlus 8, the pill is kinda hard to swallow.
I like the design and really hope the experience will improve, but I think the issues I have are hardware related so can't really be fixed (FP and old Samsung modem).
Android 12 will of course improve over time (I just reverted from 12L beta last night - wanted to see if FP and/or battery life improved with second Feb update - I can't draw any conclusions yet).
I still don't get how during 2 hours of airplane mode, the battery is showing mobile network at 36%.
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The battery should improve over time

I'm having 2 main issues. My cellular signal is always dropping. I live in Winnipeg, MB, Canada. We do have 5g. My Pixel 3 xl has no trouble getting signal but this pixel 6 is terrible. I drop connection every 2 hours for about 5 minutes. As a result calls drop, and SMS don't send.
Lots of trouble with the fingerprint scanner. I get that it is slow (takes 3 seconds to unlock with my finger) but it fails 1/3 of the time and I have to put in the phone's code.
Despite these problems I am surprising satisfied with everything else. The device is fast. It gets batter battery life then my Pixel 3 XL.
Sadly because of the problems I am experiencing I still can't advise anyone get this device. Not until they fix these cellular issues. It's a phone and top priority should be reliable cellular connections.

I dont have any bugs, never had. Only the fingerprint used to be a bit slow and my battery life was not as good as some people post online.
Everything is much better on 12L. Fingerprint is faster and now unlocks on cheap plastic screen protector. Signal seems a little worse for me on 12L, even drops to 3g sometime at my moms house(never did before) but despite that the battery life for me is much better. I get about 6hr screen on time in like 48 hours of use. (Some people post they get around 10 to 11, I dont know how)

Question Should I get Pixel 6 or wait for 7

I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!

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My thoughts...
Replace the LG battery and be happy.
Lol, if it's got a 5000 mAh battery it's because it sucks juice like a 2nd st hooker.
Variable refresh rate displays are something of a menace, still. Android 12 is a menace

For what it's worth, I don't have any problems with the battery life on my Pixel 6 Pro. I know there have been many others who do, though, as you said.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Wait.

Like everything, battery life will depend on your usage.
I unplugged my P6P this morning at 5:15. It is now 11:45 and battery is at 86%. Most of that battery drop was while I was driving to work, car gets data by tethering through phone, and that draws a fairly continuous flow of navigation data, which while not a large amount of data, keeps the phone awake and drains the battery down.
I also run GrapheneOS, completely free of gooble crap, so that will obviously benefit the battery life substantially.
Unless you can get a real great deal on the 6, I'd wait on the 7. Just keep the old phone plugged in more and you should be able to drag it out long enough.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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In case money matters, the Pixel 6 series is $200 off right now at the U.S. Google Store. Sale ends Wednesday.

Wait.
Better modem, better fingerprint sensor, face unlock for both models

Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...

spinoza23 said:
Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...
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At least get a new battery, regardless you'll have a backup phone. That's a good thing.
You lose nothing by waiting if you can. Then pick the best phone by usability, functionality, and reliability. Does it fullfill it's mission, is it fun to use?
That's why I'm still running 2 N10+'s which I still highly recommend if running on 9 or 10. I haven't seen anything in over 2 years that would do what or how I wanted... I use whatever comes in handy.

I had the LG G7, gave it to my dad who still uses it now. I've owned/used a Pixel 4a, 4a5g and now the Pixel 6 pro. The 6 pro is the best phone I've used out of all of them. I have no battery issues on my 6pro, and it is much faster/nicer experience over the G7. I wanted a bigger screen and an updated/better software experience. The LG G7 on verizon is not getting any updates past Android 9 (not 100% sure?) So I went with an unlocked 6Pro.
Waiting is always going to be your best bet, but it also depends on what your biggest gripes are with the G7 besides the aging battery. If you can get a good deal on the 6/6 Pro or even a Galaxy 22 ultra they both have excellent software update guarantees and great battery. I predict however the difference between the 6pro and 7pro will not be that big and you won't miss out on much other than you having the feeling of knowing you have the latest phone. Look on Swappa site to find great deals now or close to when the 7pro goes on sale. Lots of people there that take good care of their devices looking to sell.

As someone that loves my Pixel 6 Pro, if you can wait then do it.
My biggest gripes with the phone are the modem, 1st gen tensor, and inconsistent fingerprint reader. I live on the cusp of 5G and it wreaks havoc on my battery. I have to turn off 5G when I'm home which is a pain in the butt. The 1st gen tensor also has a tendency to heat up when it's warm out. I've had the phone get super warm and thermal throttle a couple of times now in my first summer with it. My hopes are that the second gen is a little more resilient. Lastly, the fingerprint reader has been hit or miss depending on various screen protectors. Some films worked, some didn't. My first Whitestone Dome was more hit than miss, my second has been flawless but slooow.
All that said, I still love this phone. If you don't want to wait, or can't, then go for it. It has its' quirks, but it's still probably my favorite phone in a while. I'll likely trade up for a P7 Pro when it comes out.

wait until it is with good moderm and good heat managment

I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.

darkness4every1 said:
I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.
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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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They might just as well add a micro blower fan and a 10 Ah battery and call it done.

blackhawk said:
That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?

darkness4every1 said:
My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year
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Ouch, that can happen. Just replace it when it gets to 80% of its original capacity, the end of it's useful service life to avoid a battery failure. That can damage to display or worse.
I expect a 1 year service life on a heavily used device especially if is used in high temperatures or is constantly under a high current drain. No big deal, just routine maintenance.
Many of the lastest Androids are hot running messes, not well balanced at all. The manufacturer shoving in a huge battery in masks the poor design but it's not a solution

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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?
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For me this would even make less sense, because you get the same Tensor and the same crappy modem while you miss out on the main advantage of the P6P - the top camera.

The Google P6P is my first smartphone that can comfortably handle a full day of intensive photography on a day trip, along with looking at the map and recording the route, on a single charge, and still has some power left over.