General It's finally here - Moto Edge X30

All setup. Now to go through some testing.
My biggest fear are all the heating videos on YouTube. I see in settings that auto screen refresh rate has the phone constantly refresh at 120hz!. So you basically have 120, 60 or 144hz, each staying constantly at those refresh rates. I'm not happy about that. 60 it is then. No wonder it got so warm during setup but now at 60 it seems OK.
It's lighter than I expected. Tired of heavy phones. I have a toolkit and sealant on the way. If heating is an issue I'm gonna open up the thing and give it some liquid metal thermal paste treatment. Lol what not. The phone was fairly cheap at £500

I read auto changes in some rates. 48,60,96 and 120.
And screen have a good quality?

matheus_sc said:
I read auto changes in some rates. 48,60,96 and 120.
And screen have a good quality?
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No. Auto is a constantl 120hz. That's not good. No wonder YouTube is reporting bad battery life.
I blame android 12. My pixel 6 pro had terrible refresh rate control too

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OG Pro Heating and Screen Dimming

How hot does the OG Pro get? What is the maximum brightness you can set it to when the phone is at its hottest?
I've seen a Youtube video wherein a guy was playing a game for just 1 minute or so when brightness dropped significantly. That was for the Korean version though.
It drops to 76% at its "hottest" which is really just lukewarm heh. The only time it happens to me is when I'm outside in the sun (I live in orlando fl mind u). But honestly I leave it on auto at 50% and even in the fl sun I can see the screen perfectly...
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LG PRO go or NO!!!!!
I would be very cautious of purchasing a phone with overheat issues, such as the LG G Pro. I had the privilege of owning and I have extensively tested the Galaxy 4, HTC one, and LG PRO. The LG model was the only phone that had overheated warnings and disabled brightness. I was in a well vented air conditioned building while testing. I am not stating all LG models will be the same. I will say look closely at how many people have had the device shut down or give warnings and it even happened during a CNET review. The LG phone is a great phone, just dont feel like you have to buy a device just because. I am pretty sure better models that don't over heat as often will soon be released.
Since the SGS4, HTC One and OG Pro all use Snapdragon 600, if OG Pro is the only one that "overheated", maybe it's safe to assume that a software update can fix this.
I chalk up any overheating issues to a bad phone. There have been reports of the S4 overheating and while I had mine it never did that and my OG Pro hasn't either so far. Its a mini computer so anything can happen.
I just played with a display model in the AT&T store. The phone was shut off and I used it heavily for about 30 mins running a combination of GLBench, Youtube video, Google+ browsing... The screen dimmed to 92% after running GLBench Egypt 4 times in a row and that wasnt such a big deal.. The worst offender was Youtube while watching video. I watched a video for just a couple mins and the display dropped to 84% and at that point I was really noticing how dark certain colors were looking, like greens and blues. The G Pro is such a gorgeous phone and I really want to pick this up but im worried about this display issue. A 16% display brightness drop while in an air conditioned building after a few mins of watching a video is a problem!
I can only hope for a software update to help this... Otherwise I may join the GN2 bandwagon.
Jasbo said:
I just played with a display model in the AT&T store. The phone was shut off and I used it heavily for about 30 mins running a combination of GLBench, Youtube video, Google+ browsing... The screen dimmed to 92% after running GLBench Egypt 4 times in a row and that wasnt such a big deal.. The worst offender was Youtube while watching video. I watched a video for just a couple mins and the display dropped to 84% and at that point I was really noticing how dark certain colors were looking, like greens and blues. The G Pro is such a gorgeous phone and I really want to pick this up but im worried about this display issue. A 16% display brightness drop while in an air conditioned building after a few mins of watching a video is a problem!
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No it is not. It's not a problem of the phone.
Would you mind watching this video?
How many models of top '13year smartphones do you know which allow you keep 100% brightness over prolonged period of time been well under heavy load (gaming, benching) at the same time?
The HTC One has autobrightness feature which silently lowers brightness w/o even notifying you about it. The SGS4 as you've seen, notifies you about the brightness level has been decreased and cannot be raised to full
Jasbo said:
I can only hope for a software update to help this... Otherwise I may join the GN2 bandwagon.
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Of course it won't
Well like I said I keep mine at 50% and can use it in full daylight. Ive gotten it to warm up a little but that was stressing it by playing dungeon hunter 4 over 4g and in the 90 degree florida sun. And even after like 2 hrs it only dropped to 76%. That just what I experienced...
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The only time my phone gets anywhere near "hot" is when I play GTA: Vice City with everything maxed out. It runs that game like a dream, BTW.
RaiderDuck said:
The only time my phone gets anywhere near "hot" is when I play GTA: Vice City with everything maxed out. It runs that game like a dream, BTW.
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Would you know exactly how hot it gets in C? And the max level of brightness the phone is limited to at that point?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Would you know exactly how hot it gets in C? And the max level of brightness the phone is limited to at that point?
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No idea about the exact temp. I did not notice any screen dimming.
RaptorMD said:
I chalk up any overheating issues to a bad phone. There have been reports of the S4 overheating and while I had mine it never did that and my OG Pro hasn't either so far. Its a mini computer so anything can happen.
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There's reports on the sg4 and the one getting very hot this is a issue with all three phones wonder if its the 600 processor chip.
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You can go to the hidden menu and disable the temp throtle. And the screen will be at 100% regardless of temp. But do it under your own risk. I actually got a higher score in antutu by doing it. But for normal use i keep it on. Only for games i disable the temp throtle. Theres a thread on how to do it somewhere in here.
If you don't find then: Open system menu by dialing 3845#*980#, go down the list, find items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both to Enabled ON & presto...with thermal mitigation daemon disabled you can achieve as high as 24700 in Antutu and the screen would not dim in hot conditions anymore.
Under your own risk. There's a reason why LG make this.
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there aren't "overheating" issues. phones are computers and computers get hot, and phones can get hotter than most think is normal when they are actually just at normal operating temperatures. i have a nexus 4 and i have read about others getting their phone up to 90 degrees Celsius before it shut itself down because of the possible battery damage at this high of temps (this was when they were testing to see how hot it can get). even though my nexus feels hot the most mine has gotten to is about 50 degrees celsius which is well within the normal cpu range. now, hot batteries are a different issue, but the plastic in the ogpro is able to distribute the heat away from the battery, so the phone getting pretty hot is not an issue. i mean, obviously if your phone is getting up to 90 C then that could be overheating, but it doesnt sound like anyone has really gotten above 55 C which is perfectly normal and wont damage your phone even though it feels hot. if your worried about your phone getting hot then you can download "CPU+Temp V2" from the play store (its a widget) to see how hot your phone actually is. if you dont like the dimming screen then you can always disable it, but i dont think it is a big deal that it does it because i keep my phone brightness below 75 anyway.
stop worrying about your phone getting warm and just use it!
mbucks911 said:
if you dont like the dimming screen then you can always disable it
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How do you disable it?
Mine gets E980 get mildly hot just like the Note II but the S4 gets so hot that it starts to lag trust met thats why i switched it for this one
I was having some high heat issues but did a soft reset and it seams to have fixed it... not to mention I have more free RAM and battery life improved a little...
The soft reset consists of removing the battery while the device is on and leaving it out four about 2 minutes. Then reinstall battery and turn on & presto problem solved at least for me.:thumbup:
OG PRO
The thermal throttling/shut off starts at 50C (122F) while the phones are able to go up to 55C (132F). Editing the thermald.conf fixes the throttling / shutdowns.
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My phone gets quite hot when just browsing and also when it reboots is this normal?
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read me!
A genuine unbiased reply, cuz I have G Pro, S4 and 808!
G Pro is a beautiful butterfly!
Though It has some heating issues. The maximum brightness you can set at the "hottest" is 76%, while is 24% less than the max, anything above 30% would be excellent for indoors, believe me!(you will get habitual to it soon, its good for eyes and affects battery performance too!)
I have GT Racing 2 and Asphalt Airborne. While playing with brightness under ~60, phone doesn't heats up!
It does so only when the load is much, and the screen is above ~75!
(save for 60-75, its a no mans land.. lol )
In a (very)bright sunny day, you will have to use 100%, else 50% will do!
ONE REAL BATTERY KILLER IS IR-EMITTER!
Newbies usually blame huge 1080p screen for eating battery, but in this phone, the IR-remote(app/hardware, idc) is the real problem!
To save battery, avoid using remote, and disable Quickset SetUp and Quickset SDK in Setting>Apps>Inbuilt!
Else everything is fine!
FOR NEWBIES,
As far as 3rd party software support is concerned, I haven't seen any proper ROM other than CM 10.2!
For me, LG UI is better than TouchWiz!
Its Lite(Technically)
it has got themes(icons+widgets), animation effects for home screen, lock screen effects, dual-layout icon set launcher(these are main things most people need a custom launcher for)
Its fast(faster than S4-S600 and equivalent to Note 3-S800 for me!)
I love this phone!
Literally, NOT BIASED!
I MAINTAIN MY PHONE MEMORY(RAM) AND KEEP PURGING MY EXTRA TEMPORARY FILES
MAY BE THATS WHY MINE IS FASTER THAN YOURS!
NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE
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PM me!
Press thanks if this helps! :angel:

Automatic Brightness

For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?
mgbotoe said:
For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?
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The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.
Lennyuk said:
The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.
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Battery may not be a selling point but will still be nice to know hows the battery with out all that lag / thermal throbbing fighting with the device ^.^ I am fairly satisfy with 4 hour battery life, I am not out to get the 6-7 hour battery life I have been getting on the note 3 3200 battery, so as you can see my standards have dropped.

Question Question about your guys battery life accurately app.

I'm wondering what kinda battery life you get on the zfold3. When I opened youtube with the big screen on my accusatory app says it dr omegle ains 32%/hr does anyone else have any knowledge of if this is normal rate or high? I got it on ebay so I'm trying to make sure that everything is running as expected.
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Also if I open lifeafter and play it while fast charging the back of the phone gets really realty hot! Think it was in the 120-130° range xender and screen goes really dim. Anyone else experience this on any slightly more demanding games?
When I watch videos on YouTube with the Fold open I have the same behavior as you, I reduced this by forcing the refresh to 48hz on the videos. For games I don't know, however it consumes when open.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50% Display brightness sucks a lot of battery.
Using dark mode and wallpaper helps too.
Black pixels use no power... darker ones use a lot less.
Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
iceepyon said:
Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Lol, it never worked that I saw. Google global power management and it's tarded buckets will also cause erratic behaviors that can't be resolved unless you turn it off.
Hand optimizing is better, harder to do... but it works.

Question Is LTPO 3.0 safe for eyes ? What PWM frequency is Vivo X80 Pro using ?

This may seem too obvious but think about it. Turning on show refresh rate option shows you a continuously changing refresh rate 10-24-30-60-120 Hz . LTPO can bring down the refresh rate to 10Hz but that constant switching between refresh rates may be adding flickers not consciously noticeable but may have an effect on the eyes in long term ?
This is to save the battery but can eyes adapt to a such a high degree of variable refresh rate ? Does anyone know the PWM frequency of Vivo X80 Pro LTPO 3.0 ? I did check with a slo-mo camera and it does show flicker (black lines moving across the screen). Honor 4 Pro is claiming a LTPO screen with highest ever PWM frequency for eliminating flicker. Any insight into this will be much appreciated.
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This may seem too obvious but think about it. Turning on show refresh rate option shows you a continuously changing refresh rate 10-24-30-60-120 Hz . LTPO can bring down the refresh rate to 10Hz but that constant switching between refresh rates may be adding flickers not consciously noticeable but may have an effect on the eyes in long term ?
This is to save the battery but can eyes adapt to a such a high degree of variable refresh rate ? Does anyone know the PWM frequency of Vivo X80 Pro LTPO 3.0 ? I did check with a slo-mo camera and it does show flicker (black lines moving across the screen). Honor 4 Pro is claiming a LTPO screen with highest ever PWM frequency for eliminating flicker. Any insight into this will be much appreciated.
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Honor has 1920PWM if i remember correctly, idk how much the vivo has.
But i'll break you a myth, the LTPO does NOT improve performance unless you maybe watching YouTube all day and even so.
So far all the smartphones that has poor battery life, including the x80 Pro, has LTPO.
Based on my use, i just use the 120hz and it goes down to 10hz when possible, coming from the Mate 40 Pro which has 60 or 90 only with no LTPO, the Mate 40 Pro had better battery life.
They is no eye strain with either of them if you sit in the proper angle, i haven't noticed anything anyway.
Derpling said:
Honor has 1920PWM if i remember correctly, idk how much the vivo has.
But i'll break you a myth, the LTPO does NOT improve performance unless you maybe watching YouTube all day and even so.
So far all the smartphones that has poor battery life, including the x80 Pro, has LTPO.
Based on my use, i just use the 120hz and it goes down to 10hz when possible, coming from the Mate 40 Pro which has 60 or 90 only with no LTPO, the Mate 40 Pro had better battery life.
They is no eye strain with either of them if you sit in the proper angle, i haven't noticed anything anyway.
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Thanks for replying. Firstly Congratulations for your ROG6 phone . LTPO may be saving a little bit of battery but there are many other factors especially SD Gen 1.
But I am worried about LTPO's constantly varying refresh rate. In my 2 months of usage of X80 Pro I had two or three episodes of headache which may be very well be coincidental due to other factors. It did prompt me to research more on PWM frequency of X80 pro and what effect does LTPO have on eyes.
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Thanks for replying. Firstly Congratulations for your ROG6 phone . LTPO may be saving a little bit of battery but there are many other factors especially SD Gen 1.
But I am worried about LTPO's constantly varying refresh rate. In my 2 months of usage of X80 Pro I had two or three episodes of headache which may be very well be coincidental due to other factors. It did prompt me to research more on PWM frequency of X80 pro and what effect does LTPO have on eyes.
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That's a good point that no reviewer actually checked or researched.
I had the X80 pro for a month and never had any headache, you might be sensitive to certain PWM frequency.
If you can check the Honor Magic 4 Pro you might deny or confirm that.
Derpling said:
That's a good point that no reviewer actually checked or researched.
I had the X80 pro for a month and never had any headache, you might be sensitive to certain PWM frequency.
If you can check the Honor Magic 4 Pro you might deny or confirm that.
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I have no way to check magic 4. Also , I did not find a way to force 60 or 120 Hz on X80 pro. Tried adb command and SetEdit. At least locking it to 60Hz minimum will be good enough even though it defeats the purpose of LTPO.
Does anyone know how to do that ?
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I have no way to check magic 4. Also , I did not find a way to force 60 or 120 Hz on X80 pro. Tried adb command and SetEdit. At least locking it to 60Hz minimum will be good enough even though it defeats the purpose of LTPO.
Does anyone know how to do that ?
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It should be under the display settings>refresh rate.
Don't choose Auto, choose 120hz, and it will be 120hz all the time unless there is no motion on the screen.
Derpling said:
It should be under the display settings>refresh rate.
Don't choose Auto, choose 120hz, and it will be 120hz all the time unless there is no motion on the screen.
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Choosing a refresh rate in settings just sets the maximum refresh rate. I would like it to be at least 60Hz at all times which happens in all non-LTPO phones .
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Choosing a refresh rate in settings just sets the maximum refresh rate. I would like it to be at least 60Hz at all times which happens in all non-LTPO phones .
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If you trigger the "show refresh rate" at the developer menu, you'll see it drops from 120hz to 10hz quite often.
Even if you'll force 60hz it will drop to 10hz, that's just how it works.
I don't think you can put a threshold of 60hz as minimum as opposed to 10hz.
Derpling said:
If you trigger the "show refresh rate" at the developer menu, you'll see it drops from 120hz to 10hz quite often.
Even if you'll force 60hz it will drop to 10hz, that's just how it works.
I don't think you can put a threshold of 60hz as minimum as opposed to 10hz.
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Right. That's how LTPO works but in other phones , it will stay at 60Hz even if it is static picture. The flicker at 10Hz could be more than 60Hz unless the PWM frequency is high enough. Am I getting it right ?
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Right. That's how LTPO works but in other phones , it will stay at 60Hz even if it is static picture. The flicker at 10Hz could be more than 60Hz unless the PWM frequency is high enough. Am I getting it right ?
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Indeed.
But Vivo hasn't published information about the PWM frequency, so we're in the dark for now.
There is a new Notebookcheck analysis of X80 pro, but the frequency is pretty low
Vivo X80 Pro smartphone review: Primus camera with huge fingerprint sensor
In our review, the Vivo X80 attempts to impress with a quad camera, Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, ample storage, fast charging and probably the largest, fastest and most versatile fingerprint sensor.
www.notebookcheck.net
Derpling said:
If you trigger the "show refresh rate" at the developer menu, you'll see it drops from 120hz to 10hz quite often.
Even if you'll force 60hz it will drop to 10hz, that's just how it works.
I don't think you can put a threshold of 60hz as minimum as opposed to 10hz.
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I am on W30 funtouch OS 12.0.12.12 and I noticed that Show Refresh Rate is now showing 120 Hz all the time if 120 Hz is selected in settings. Even Youtube is at 120 Hz which is great. Even in Smart switch mode the refresh rate only toggles between 60 Hz and 120 Hz . In essence LTPO has stopped working and I did not notice battery drainage as such so I am happy also due to concerns on LTPO safety on eyes and the phone feels fast irrespective of whether an app supports 120 Hz or not

Question Any way of forcing the screen to 120 Hz?

Hey, so I bought this phone around a week ago and while I love its hardware, I'm having real trouble getting it to move smoothly.
Specifically, I noticed that the screen drops to 60 Hz or less in many apps (confirmed through developer options), slowing down things like the drop-down menu as well. Now I understand that YouTube and most apps do not support more than 60 Hz: however, I do not understand why the phone slows down the scrolling and the notification menu as well. I previously had a One Plus 7 Pro that remained buttery smooth in the menus, even when running YouTube.
Is there a way to force the screen to 120 Hz for Vivo phones? I have tried a lot of the options which work for other brands (tried Setedit, ADB commands, SmartHertz etc), yet they do not do anything on the X80 Pro.
Did anyone manage to force the refresh rate in any way on this phone or on another recent Vivo phone? I haven't been able to find much for X80 Pro specifically.
None so far, and all the apps support 120hz unless coded differently.
On mine ROG6, ALL apps works at ALL the refresh rates, on the vivo however, Youtube and spotify stuck on 60hz no matter what, it's purely Vivo's fault and i hope they'll fix it in the upcoming updates.
I hope they fix it soon as well, my Vivo is laggier than a midrange phone in daily use, despite having stellar hardware and great results in benchmarks. Certainly didn't expect that lol.
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I hope they fix it soon as well, my Vivo is laggier than a midrange phone in daily use, despite having stellar hardware and great results in benchmarks. Certainly didn't expect that lol.
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Yeah me neither, still shocked how slow it is compared to any phone, actually.
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Yeah me neither, still shocked how slow it is compared to any phone, actually.
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I am on W30 funtouch OS 12.0.12.12 and I noticed that Show Refresh Rate is now showing 120 Hz all the time if 120 Hz is selected in settings. Even Youtube is at 120 Hz which is great. Even in Smart switch mode the refresh rate only toggles between 60 Hz and 120 Hz . In essence LTPO has stopped working and I did not notice battery drainage as such so I am happy also due to concerns on LTPO safety on eyes and the phone feels fast irrespective of whether an app supports 120 Hz or not
I had to choose 120 Hz specifically, when I used "Auto" mode it was down to 60 Hz in e.g. Chrome/Brave. Now it's 120 Hz there. Only app I can see with 60 Hz are games and youtube.
Latest SmartHertz version now supports manual modes, maybe with forced mode it will work on Vivo. Try it!

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