Question Verizon is collecting your data without your consent; how do you feel about it? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Verizon notifies its customers about their default participation in Verizon's data collection program​By Preslav Mladenov​
Verizon has begun notifying its subscribers with emails and text messages, informing them that they have been opted-in by default to the program. This comes after Verizon's customers complaining they had automatically been enrolled in Verizon's Custom Experience data collection program.
Verizon said that in order to provide more personalized experiences to its customers, its Custom Experience program collects data about their apps and web activity. Verizon says that a client can opt-out at any time from the program. According to Verizon, if a client chooses to be part of the data collection program, they will get more relevant product and service recommendations. The information gathered will aid Verizon in developing offers that may be of greater interest to the client.
Verizon has created two versions of its data-collection program. The first is the Custom Experience program, which has a default enrollment. The other is the Custom Experience Plus, which collects more information and is optional. With Custom Experience Plus, Verizon could collect the client's location and all the information about the client's phone calls.
To leave the Custom Experience program, go to the privacy settings page on the My Verizon site or app. For more information about Verizon's data collection program, visit the Verizon Custom Experience programs FAQs.
Verizon notifies its customers about their default participation in Verizon's data collection program
Verizon sent notifying emails to its customers to tell them that they are automatically opt-in in their data collection program
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Yet another reason to install custom roms....
I have TMobile and they're pretty upfront about opting out of their stuff or at least they were to me

I wonder what this means for people roaming on Verizon's towers

So tl;dr: Verizon is selling your browsing history.
If I had Verizon I'd be canceling service immediately

Flippy125 said:
If I had Verizon I'd be canceling service immediately
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Or you could just opt-out of it.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Or you could just opt-out of it.
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It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?

Flippy125 said:
It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?
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I agree, but this sort of thing is so prevalent, it's nearly impossible to find a competitor who hasn't done something similar at one time or another. I switched from Verizon 4 1/2 years ago for different reasons, though. Sometimes (actually quite often IMHO), technology sucks.

Flippy125 said:
It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?
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This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.

gettinwicked said:
This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.
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About that:
Verizon overrides users’ opt-out preferences in push to collect browsing history
Verizon renamed scanning program and enrolled customers who previously opted out.
arstechnica.com

gettinwicked said:
This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.
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Yeah AT&T has it. It says in part it's to help with social programs, comrade. fk that $hit.
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About that:
Verizon overrides users’ opt-out preferences in push to collect browsing history
Verizon renamed scanning program and enrolled customers who previously opted out.
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Yeah, that's effed up.. If someone opts out, leave it alone. Pulling a fast one like this to make more money is BS. I checked my settings, and they are still good at least. I'll keep checking to make sure.

where can I find this on the website itself under account? Just want to make sure.

If something like this bothers folks, why are folks buying devices that can't be rooted? Easy solution: install an iptables firewall, such as AFWall+.
Whenever an app is installed, it's a decent bet it's connecting to the internet even if it has no legitimate reason to do so, coupled with enabled receivers for data collection. For some reason, folks only get uptight about data privacy when it's blatant and transparent, yet don't appear to care at all about the inverse, which is the majority of data collection.

I expect nothing less from Verizon. Would have been disappointed if Verizon didn't live up to being the worst provider.

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Hide data usage??

Just as the title, is there a way to hide data usage? T-Mobile is starting to really irritate me. I was getting amazing speeds, and was very happy. I advertise for T-Mobile, because I LIKED them a whole lot. I do sell mobile phones for a living, and demo this phone A LOT.
Here was an amazing day
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And here is a day with a cap on...
Basically, I used 5 gigs in like 18 days, so they capped me. I called and complained, they said "Well we're not limiting your data, we're only slowing it down" which pissed me off. I give this company 2500$+ a year and they are going to cap me for using 5 gigs?
Needless to say, the cap was "magically" removed the next day, so to get my revenge, I used 5 gigs in a day.
So basically, I need to either figure out a way from the network to not see how much data I am using, or I am going to just call an automated system, and let the phone use 34,000+ minutes and try to get kicked off the network.
Theres a thread in the dev section related to this, but your gonna have to perm root your G2 in order to do it,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923&page=40
but I also think they gave an alternet APN setting somewhere in that same thread you can try, gonna have to search the thread for it though.
Here's those APN settings. They work like a charm.
What exactly do those settings do???
They route you to the internet through another one of TMO's internet gateways, through which, apparently, they are not counting how much data is used.
Those settings worked wonders! I was getting 56 down and 40 up when I was throttled. Back to normal speeds now =) but I'm getting throttled when I'm at 4.6gbs of data used should I call up tmobile and see why there throttleing me so early?
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Technically there's nothing wrong with them throttling you. You pay them $2500/year (that's $208/mo, you may want to have your plan looked at, if you've just got the one phone). If you really want to get down to it, you only pay them $360/year for data ($30/mo times 12 months). The rest of your bill is for other things (minutes, etc.).
Also, the contract that you signed when you started your service very specifically says that on the unlimited plan, they will not charge your overage fees, but any data transfer beyond 5GB is subject to be throttled down. You agreed to that happening when you signed your contract (whether you read it or not).
They're not cheating you out of anything, nor are they ripping you off (and even if they were, you expressly agreed to it, confirmed with your signature).
In any case, as mentioned above, there's a hack to disable the throttling quite easily. I'd say it's their fault for not making it a network-based throttle.
hiko36 said:
Here's those APN settings. They work like a charm.
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i'm not being throttled yet, but will be soon enough, should i only apply this once i'm throttled or should i do it now?
I have 3 phones, so times that data by 3. And I ballparked 2500 I pay over 250 a month for unlimited everything. I'm just saying that for a phone company who is supposed to be the best, that they slow down data. Sprint only does it if you go over 12 gbs.
xKERNALx said:
I have 3 phones, so times that data by 3. And I ballparked 2500 I pay over 250 a month for unlimited everything. I'm just saying that for a phone company who is supposed to be the best, that they slow down data. Sprint only does it if you go over 12 gbs.
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And AT&T, Verizon, and U.S. Cellular (the other 3 out of the top 5 carriers) all charge you extra money (and lots of it) if you go over. I'm just saying I'd *much* prefer being throttled and knowing what my bill is going to be vs being given full data but no clue on what my bill might turn out to be when the dust settles.
Again, either way, there's a pretty easy way to defeat it.
Verizon does not overcharge for data. They might call you after 5gigs and warn you that you're going to be throttled, but even then, it's not dial up speeds.
And sprint, the cheapest of them all, doesn't cut you off until you're at 10gb+
I miss the days when T-mobile wouldn't cap you until 10 gigabytes!
I tried that 'Unthrottle APN' and it doesnt work too well.
I'm still getting throttled down to dialup, sucks.
smthkat789 said:
I tried that 'Unthrottle APN' and it doesnt work too well.
I'm still getting throttled down to dialup, sucks.
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Unfortunately, as of today, none of our workarounds are functioning anymore.
You get 5GB per phone, not 5GB across the three. Instead of moaning about being capped a simple search would have given you a solution. I tend to agree that for heavy users (like you and me) 5GB is not enough for a month if using the data connection at all times. I avoid the problem by using wireless at my office and house but at the same time I made the modifications necessary to bypass the cap for when I need to tether or when travelling.
Racking up 5GB in 18 days implies you are doing quite a bit more than "demoing" the phone. Do what you like with your connection (steaming audio eats bandwidth like candy as an example) but that is a bit high for conventional usage even when doing 10-15 demos a day. To exceed 5GB in a day to "get revenge" is childish and abusive.
Just my 2 cents.
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I used the settings but my internet is still slow
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I believe the whole apn change is an outdated solution now :/
Thank you is there another way to do it
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wondering
I was following sino8r thread about hacking the throttling restrictions. I'm a new member so I cannot post in the development section....
Maybe I'm stupid but has anyone tried to implement a script on their phone that would allow them to change the devices MAC Address??? It could be that tmobile is doing something as mac id identification to enforce their throttling policies. I don't have enuff android knowledge to test it but I do have network experience and one the easiest ways to restrict users is to tie it to their mac address.... maybe spoofing it might work to bypass the throttling??
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I was following sino8r thread about hacking the throttling restrictions. I'm a new member so I cannot post in the development section....
Maybe I'm stupid but has anyone tried to implement a script on their phone that would allow them to change the devices MAC Address??? It could be that tmobile is doing something as mac id identification to enforce their throttling policies. I don't have enuff android knowledge to test it but I do have network experience and one the easiest ways to restrict users is to tie it to their mac address.... maybe spoofing it might work to bypass the throttling??
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I am fairly certain, for reasons I can't discuss, that data usage is tracked by IMSI at the APN level. Changing the MAC won't make a difference if this is correct. If it was somehow possible without switching SIMs, changing IMSI would effectively make you a different customer and invalidate your authority to access T-Mo's data network.... well... unless you imitated another customer (which would be very illegal).

Tor = The Onion Router

Anyone use Tor? If not it's worth checking it out. Best proxy service out there. Using duck duck go for search engine it's a whole new Web.
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I always have tor and use it occasionally. I appreciate the torify everything option.
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I like it, but hate the speeds.. Unless they can't improve it then I usually don't use it.. I can get 1.8mbs of download speed without it, but with it I get 15-60kbs... There's no way to get better speeds unless you destroy some of the security
Yeah since it's really mean for deep Web fishing. Tough security on it, it's crazy.
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I don't see any purpose for it unless your a hacker or fugitive from technology related crimes XD
It's not a daily driver but its excellent at getting thru websites that won't allow American ip addresses. Or going to the silk road
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How does this affect battery? Never used it on Android. I'm taking about leaving my phone connect to the TOR network. It would use more data because my data would be slower which will use more battery but anything more?
Aaron Swartz, Rest in Pixels.
jamcar said:
How does this affect battery? Never used it on Android. I'm taking about leaving my phone connect to the TOR network. It would use more data because my data would be slower which will use more battery but anything more?
Aaron Swartz, Rest in Pixels.
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It wouldn't use more data, it would keep your radios active longer which theoretically would have a negative impact on battery life.
The speeds are rather low but, given the anonymity it provides, they are negligible when using Tor.
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Well for daily driver I have issues using Google. They don't like the mass queries coming off my phone. Throws a red flag and blocks access to Google search. If you like the service consider running it on your pc and set up a relay. More relays = faster connection. I don't notice that much of a battery drain. I'll run it with and without then post screenies
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I hack and before i graduated i was using a proxy service on our school computers until they finally found out and blocked almost EVERY proxy service you could find. A branch of the U.S. Navy uses TOR for open source intelligence gathering, and one of its teams used TOR while deployed in the Middle East recently. Law enforcement uses TOR for visiting or surveilling web sites without leaving government IP addresses in their web logs, and for security during sting operations. Its very useful but yes, it is slow unless you have A LOT of bridges. I like it because most schools aren't smart enough to block you from executing programs from your flash drive.. At least mine wasn't so I liked that it was on my flash drive and I didn't have to save it on the schools home drive so I could just go from computer to computer, open, and use it. Its very useful and I don't get on a computer without using it.
Last time I checked or used Tor it was leaving behind some DNS trails. Anyone know of that is still the case?
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Don't like the speeds on the onion router? Run a node. In theory, If a small fraction of the users who compain about the speed ran nodes, the network would become exponentially faster for everyone plus supply better obfuscation for the people who really need it on the network. I'm talking about all the journalists, dissidents, and whistleblowers out there -and anyone trying to affect positive change in hostile territory - not the pimply faced high schoolers buying drugs, pervs trading kiddie porn, or common thieves on the darkweb using tor to try and hide their criminal activities from law enforcement.
Ok... lets sudo this and talk TOR brass tacks. Because love it or hate it - something like TOR needs to be entered into knowing and understanding the risks, how the system works and what vulnerabilities you are exposed to. I caution people to a) dont believe the hype / both from its opponents and proponents. Risk as well as profit deploying it vary per user and per device. So listen to what people say about their experiences but also consider the source of the intel as well: jondoe commenting on how TOR sucks and/or is great means nothing if his platforms consist of running it from IOS or any .net environment. b) dont render a false sense of security from its target description and ploy. If not used in concert with a plethora of additional /sys/config - it will bite you. Not listening to this suggestion could actually make you stick out on a network as a TOR user. Although the tunnel and its content are encrypted / your entry to and exit from are not... and thats usually where the nets are. c) .... I could go on .... lets cut to some solutions for further consideration and to get me off this soap box.
1. GOV/official use: debunked - is not happening on any level nor has it ever despite what the media and/or forums have reported. Despite its Milt. Ind. Complex birth / TOR is not used for HUMINT officially. Why would they? Their tools far surpass TOR's percieved abilities. maybe its used by local munincipal or DHS - but again ... these organizations are currently in turmoil upgrading to WIN7. ...! Do the math.
2. There are many other options for configuring your device to achieve what your intended TOR to provide you with. There is no out-of-the-box solution. Learn and master how TCP works and work on lowering your fingerprint score before allowing TOR to lead you to the hunters.
So take this for what its worth from someone who wears both hats professionally. Im not breaking my code of silence to scare you or internationally counter others in this thread .. if it bothers you - get over it. Im done listening to people turn speculation into fact that others may be harmed by. This is a PSA. If you have to ask questions or seek instruction and/or advice concerning TOR - dont use it.
I'm in the fraud fighting industry and need this app to take me to underground carding forums, etc. Orbot quit working when I upgraded from 4.1.2 to 4.3. Any ideas or has anyone found a fix for it to work with 4.3?
Update in Play Store released yesterday or today didn't solve the problem. Wished that would have fixed it.
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Can some one explain what tmobile is doing?

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Torrent downloaders will be throttled. VPN or TOR should combat that
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Torrent downloaders will be throttled. VPN or TOR should combat that
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Thanks dude for clarifying that
Technically you'll still have unlimited data, just at a much slower speed.
You would be surprised how many company s are doing this already. There are actually many cable company's that are doing this also. This is unfair for those that use peer-to-peer networking to transfer non illegal stuff.
Honestly t-mobile is the only company that offers truly I unlimited at a reasonable price. Att for 2 lines I would have to pay 60 and he 5gb of data to SPLIT between the 2 lines.
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MajorTux said:
You would be surprised how many company s are doing this already. There are actually many cable company's that are doing this also. This is unfair for those that use peer-to-peer networking to transfer non illegal stuff.
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I can honestly say, I've never met anyone who uses torrents for legal stuff.
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I can honestly say, I've never met anyone who uses torrents for legal stuff.
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I use them to download Linux distros. You would be surprised how many artist and movies actually release there work on bit torrent sites for free.
https://bundles.bittorrent.com/#!/
https://www.jamendo.com/en/welcome
http://linuxtracker.org/
https://archive.org/details/bittorrent
http://www.mininova.org/featured/cat/
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I could go on.
A lot of movie studios, record company, and independent artist will do this to hype there movie or even get people to donate to them and lets the consumer pay what they want for the movie. A good example of this would be a small mom and pop store may practically give things away to get people in the door and away from the big business. So in Turn if people can down load the torrents the company will not make money.....But the fact is the portion of people that are doing this is pretty small, but some people still do it. Again just like the amount of people that will shop at a mom and pop store opposed to Walmart,Target,Whole Foods,Ex...
I just ditched att after 6 years because they were throttling my data at 5gs. I unlocked the sim, bought a tmo sim for $10.75 and now I pay 80per month for unlimited data, phone, tx, with zero throttling and no contract. I get extremely fast 20-30 mbps download speeds and have ditched the $45 per month att wifi. I am at almost 100gs this month by running my n3, laptop, and kids ipads. I do not go to torrent download sites at all, am I in jeopardy of being throttled by tmo ???
yep; if you continue to use 100 gigs per month, eventually you will be throttled..
XiPhoneUzer, I did the exact same. I paid more than necessary for YEARS to hold on to my "Grandfathered Unlimited Plan" despite generally using wifi and using (sometimes well) under 2 gigs of mobile data every month for the prior year (not to mention crippled, locked-down bootloader phones). It was the "just in case" mentality, ya know? Well, about a year ago now, "just in case happened"... I lost power in my apartment for like a week (obviously no modem / router / computers...) Man, I sure was glad I held on to that Unlimited plan! Immediately started watching some Netflix and... taking care of business (such as downloading a couple new Linux ISOs). Well, I hit 5 gigs mobile data that night. Got a warning message at like 4990 MB, then 5 mins later, my connection was immediately throtled down to completely "can't load a webpage" unusable. ATT reps were super helpful, like, "Man, that's too bad." and "At least you only have to wait until next Wednesday." Wouldn't even "let" me pay for more data with a usable connection! ... I no longer make use of their services.
On topic... my concern is: Is this going affect people who use clearly legitimate apps / services like BT Sync? That is, am I going to need to keep my KeePass database synced across devices via USB otg every time I update it on my computer, or some multi-step LAN upload? No, I'm not cool with keeping that kind of thing on GDrive or whatever.
You guys need to research and chill. They are only interested in the very top downloaders. These are people moving Terrabytes/month. Your 100GB is probably not even on the radar. They are also only applying the throttle to those users when the network is crowded and those people are causing problems for other users on the network. This is not the time to freak out about it. Watch, and call them on their BS, should it be called for, but for now, it's really not. This isn't a comcast style "kill all connections that look like bittorrent" deal.
To give some idea of scale, they claimed that they were contacting 20 users for this first time. Seems quite reasonable, right now. If they start to get bad, they have to know they will be called out on it. Save the rage, we might need it later.

Question Display problem with new Fold 3

Got my new Fold 3 today, set it up and immediately noticed that something was wrong with the screens, both large and small. With certain apps such as Google Maps, Samsung Browser, Chrome, Amazon, etc., I have spots on the screen that seem to get stuck and merge into lines when scrolling. This happens on both screens when opened and closed. I've tried Wipe Cache, Factory Reset, and a few other options. Seems to be a hardware issue. Probably a GPU failure if certain hardware acceleration is required. In some apps it doesn't happen at all like Firefox, Youtube, Samsung Gallery, Facebook.
Anyone with the same problem?
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Got my new Fold 3 today, set it up and immediately noticed that something was wrong with the screens, both large and small. With certain apps such as Google Maps, Samsung Browser, Chrome, Amazon, etc., I have spots on the screen that seem to get stuck and merge into lines when scrolling. This happens on both screens when opened and closed. I've tried Wipe Cache, Factory Reset, and a few other options. Seems to be a hardware issue. Probably a GPU failure if certain hardware acceleration is required. In some apps it doesn't happen at all like Firefox, Youtube, Samsung Gallery, Facebook.
Anyone with the same problem?
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Wow. Full reset first. Then if not, return.
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Wow. Full reset first. Then if not, return.
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Out of the box it should work.
It left the factory like that more than likely
Factory resets solve little* and worse the issue is likely to reoccur if the root cause isn't found.
The return window clock is running down, tick-tock Mr Wick.
*use after major firmware updates, malware that can't be eradicated and system damage caused by 3rd party apks.
Jake.S said:
You seems just to be a samsung hater please go away if you have nothing positive to say. Secondly Sweden have had this law for years.
I bet you are a Apple executive or some apple fan.
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Man, I'm sure you know the laws of your land better than he does, but let the man say what he likes. Everything has to be positive?
Well saying things in favour of Samsung does not mean that one is a Samsung executive, and complaints about Samsung doesn't always come from an Apple executive, or an Xiaomi executive. It is exaggerated.
Actually in my opinion folding phones are only a proof of concept and still a long way to become, reliable, and durable, to use. Also it doesn't really brings a ton more than normal phones, considering that they are just pocketable tablets with a less durable screen and less battery life. This is just my point of view and if you don't agree comment below.
@blackhawk & @Oswald Boelcke Ok my good friends, now that we have a good understanding of customer rights in the EU, I have done a little thread vacuuming (by request) so that we may return to our regularly scheduled "on topic" programing.
Cheers: The Badger!
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@blackhawk & @Oswald Boelcke Ok my good friends, now that we have a good understanding of customer rights in the EU, I have done a little thread vacuuming (by request) so that we may return to our regularly scheduled "on topic" programing.
Cheers: The Badger!
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Sorry to pry but could we get a tl;Dr of what those rights are? Could be useful for people in those regions if they have problems and find this thread.
Although regardless of your regional rights OP wants a working phone right? So returning it as soon as possible makes sense. Iirc in the UK returns are possible up to 7 years later but the sooner you do it the more likely a manufacturer is to help without questions.
mspa.jpg image is from screencapture ??
Take a screenshot and see if it's the same.
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mspa.jpg image is from screencapture ??
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took a picture of screen with another phone.
Replacement phone is already on the way and will be delivered today. Requested exchange yesterday morning with Samsung Germany.
LR7875 said:
Well saying things in favour of Samsung does not mean that one is a Samsung executive, and complaints about Samsung doesn't always come from an Apple executive, or an Xiaomi executive. It is exaggerated.
Actually in my opinion folding phones are only a proof of concept and still a long way to become, reliable, and durable, to use. Also it doesn't really brings a ton more than normal phones, considering that they are just pocketable tablets with a less durable screen and less battery life. This is just my point of view and if you don't agree comment below.
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i agree its just a concept thats has been bought to the public imo

Question Would appreciate your thoughts on OnePlus spying on us (article link included). Yes or No, Why \ How.

Chyna Phones Stealth Spying & Stealing Personal Data
Thanks very much.
It's not good, but I assume it's mostly for devices from China running ColorOs. My plan is to restore and convert to OxygenOS and delete any bloat apps.
If you want privacy, go off the internet and live in the woods. There's no phone that doesn't spy on you
They do, which is why they are removing the abilities of users to root / install custom recoveries because they don't want the spyware removed.
Interesting - I'm still going to switch back to a OnePlus 11 from my Pixel 7 Pro
Just as much as Google, iCreap..
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Just as much as Google, iCreap..
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Much rather have American companies spying though.
Thank you all for all responses.
The point is to avoid the worst of the worst- China seeing and recording everything done on the phone \ dataset for sale on dark web.
Not counting on any government help- Apple now has succumbed to encryption backdoor, law being proposed in UK to ban sale and possession of encrypted phone, etc. ad nauseam.
Not asking for total privacy- for that we can look up Rob Braxman Tech on social media for de-Googled \ de-crapified \ de-Androided \ etc. \ removable battery phones...
Personally, much of tech & moneymaking knowledges learned \ new products \ best pricing has often been thru the big bad Tech corps using personal info for targeted ads...
mikebb00 said:
Interesting - I'm still going to switch back to a OnePlus 11 from my Pixel 7 Pro
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I was just reading about the latest Android 14 peeks and thinking maybe to get a used Pixel for that annual privilege.
XDRdaniel said:
If you want privacy, go off the internet and live in the woods. There's no phone that doesn't spy on you
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We may all get booted to the woods or some bunker by nukes. Survival & manual skills will rule. Survival of the fittest & smartest. Evolution will cull liberal arts degree holders \ wokesters \ abortionists \ obese internet twerkers \ welfare recipients \ drug abusers \ anti-gun proponents...
Bears, mountain lions, and wolves will feast.
EtherealRemnant, XDA doesn't allow me to Like your response. Take this instead:
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EtherealRemnant said:
Much rather have American companies spying though.
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Same Garbage, different language..
null0seven said:
Same Garbage, different language..
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I live in the US. I am well aware the government knows everything about me. I don't want hostile nations knowing everything about me too though.
EtherealRemnant said:
I live in the US. I am well aware the government knows everything about me. I don't want hostile nations knowing everything about me too though.
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The most hostile is Your country..
For me is mine..
null0seven said:
The most hostile is Your country..
For me is mine..
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False. Chinese spy identified folks. (Although for Chinese citizens, agreed the most hostile nation is their own. Family members and friends disappearing to concentration camps for speaking out on social media, etc.)
EtherealRemnant said:
I live in the US. I am well aware the government knows everything about me. I don't want hostile nations knowing everything about me too though.
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Here here. 100% the correct frame of mind. Hostile nation that actively wants to harm us. By the way speaking as a OnePlus 11 preorder holder lol. Decided to give OP one last chance since I haven't used a OP phone since the OP5. Maybe I can use some packet sniffing apps to check for Chinese domains.
The best bet is to use ADB to disable or uninstall any OnePlus specific apps. On the OnePlus 8 Pro, it was easy to uninstall any apps that had .cn in the app name.
Guyinlaca said:
The best bet is to use ADB to disable or uninstall any OnePlus specific apps. On the OnePlus 8 Pro, it was easy to uninstall any apps that had .cn in the app name.
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I've heard in some cases uninstalling system apps can result in OTA's failing system verification phase. Does anyone know if OP does any system partition verification when performing OTA's?
Android phones transmit personal info to China without consent
Even to service providers that don't provide service.
And we know that all Chinese companies but the very small by law have embedded government & military liaisons that vacuum all data.
I'm not convinced that that scoped personal data (& user actions) doesn't also make its way to the dark web for sale to criminals and brokers that allow our agencies & law enforcement to indirectly obtain our whitewashed data otherwise unlawful for them to directly access.
At least I would want to avoid criminals stealing personal identity \ funds. Some of the price quotes on their forums are so low...
Thanks all.
horsecharles said:
Android phones transmit personal info to China without consent
Even to service providers that don't provide service.
And we know that all Chinese companies but the very small by law have embedded government & military liaisons that vacuum all data.
I'm not convinced that that scoped personal data (& user actions) doesn't also make its way to the dark web for sale to criminals and brokers that allow our agencies & law enforcement to indirectly obtain our whitewashed data otherwise unlawful for them to directly access.
At least I would want to avoid criminals stealing personal identity \ funds. Some of the price quotes on their forums are so low...
Thanks all.
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Lol fox news? They will just list the phones by any manufacturer they think is too woke. Or china. Because china lol. Thank all of us for what? Accepting your propaganda?

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