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Hulu Killed Skyfire :(

Title says it.
If your getting it to work let me know. I'm using latest skyfire on Tmo TP2 over wifi.
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No No Way, Uh Uh, Forget It
mrbox23 said:
Title says it.
If your getting it to work let me know. I'm using latest skyfire on Tmo TP2 over wifi.
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Nope, ain't gonna happen. I hate to break it to you. I also, know that Skyfire is the most superior of all the web browsers when it comes to viewing flash content. Guess who also knows this, the people at HULU. Skyfire used to work for HULU content, but they got hip to this, so it no longer works. The only way you are gonna view HULU is to use myPlayer app. It is alright, you cant just view anything on Hulu, but you can view a lot of stuff on it. Plus, for now, this is as good as it gets. Search for myPlayer and Coreplayer (needed to stream myPlayer). You might just like it. I use it from time to time

that seems stupid and childish...why in the world does hulu care if we watch on our pc or a pocket pc...
im sure its something im missing regarding this, but it seems petty on the surface...

da9th_one said:
that seems stupid and childish...why in the world does hulu care if we watch on our pc or a pocket pc...
im sure its something im missing regarding this, but it seems petty on the surface...
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Don't blame Hulu, blame the US copyright system. Hulu has to keep all the TV networks (who legally hold the rights to those shows) happy by obeying every applicable copyright law. Hulu loses lots of business when a network decides to yank all their shows, and the average visitor to their site isn't happy when their shows go away. I'm sure somehow the networks negotiated something into some license/contract that Hulu must block mobile devices from viewing the site if possible, and Hulu is simply holding their end of the bargain

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Don't blame Hulu, blame the US copyright system. Hulu has to keep all the TV networks (who legally hold the rights to those shows) happy by obeying every applicable copyright law. Hulu loses lots of business when a network decides to yank all their shows, and the average visitor to their site isn't happy when their shows go away. I'm sure somehow the networks negotiated something into some license/contract that Hulu must block mobile devices from viewing the site if possible, and Hulu is simply holding their end of the bargain
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that's probably the most logical answer to what's going on...personally i don't use skyfire b/c they hoard as much personal info as google, as i understand it...thanks for clearing that up...

Yep, and also Skyfire would enable non US viewers of Hulu content. For now Hulu is only available for US IP's :-(

What doesn't make sense to me is why would they want LESS viewers of their material?

This happened many months ago.

vHatch said:
This happened many months ago.
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It's only reappearing now because for 2-3 days, it was working again.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Don't blame Hulu, blame the US copyright system. Hulu has to keep all the TV networks (who legally hold the rights to those shows) happy by obeying every applicable copyright law. Hulu loses lots of business when a network decides to yank all their shows, and the average visitor to their site isn't happy when their shows go away. I'm sure somehow the networks negotiated something into some license/contract that Hulu must block mobile devices from viewing the site if possible, and Hulu is simply holding their end of the bargain
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da9th_one said:
that's probably the most logical answer to what's going on...personally i don't use skyfire b/c they hoard as much personal info as google, as i understand it...thanks for clearing that up...
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I agree with Dave. The people who actually run hulu want it to succeed, but ultimately they aren't just answerable to the networks who own the content, hulu itself is owned by NBC, Fox and ABC/Disney.
Ironically, you can visit most of the network sites individually and watch via skyfire.
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What doesn't make sense to me is why would they want LESS viewers of their material?
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They don't, but despite wanting to get into an inevitable online/on demand system, they are concerned (justifiably) about hemorrhaging broadcast/cable/satellite viewers. Hulu has just now reached profitability, but it doesn't have near the margins mainstream sources do, and probably won't for some time to come. Networks DO want to have a presence to stop unnecessary pirating and they DO want their heavily serial shows (Lost) to be something you can miss an episode of and catchup online without dropping out of the audience because you feel lost and they DO want to build legit audiences towards the day when TV gets rolled into the internet, but they DON'T want to hasten that particular day.
I have an HTPC, a nice big HD monitor and a real IR remote hooked up to it. Networks fear people like me who don't need their more profitable partners anymore. Someday, they'll be able to charge larger premiums on ads than they can now and it will no longer be an issue, but not today.

fortunz said:
They don't, but despite wanting to get into an inevitable online/on demand system, they are concerned (justifiably) about hemorrhaging broadcast/cable/satellite viewers. Hulu has just now reached profitability, but it doesn't have near the margins mainstream sources do, and probably won't for some time to come. Networks DO want to have a presence to stop unnecessary pirating and they DO want their heavily serial shows (Lost) to be something you can miss an episode of and catchup online without dropping out of the audience because you feel lost and they DO want to build legit audiences towards the day when TV gets rolled into the internet, but they DON'T want to hasten that particular day.
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Still, given some thought, it's not a bad thing for them. It's like if I had a free newspaper distributed in the county of a large city and a small supply accidentally got sent to a neighboring county. Why would I hate that?

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Don't blame Hulu, blame the US copyright system. Hulu has to keep all the TV networks (who legally hold the rights to those shows) happy by obeying every applicable copyright law. Hulu loses lots of business when a network decides to yank all their shows, and the average visitor to their site isn't happy when their shows go away. I'm sure somehow the networks negotiated something into some license/contract that Hulu must block mobile devices from viewing the site if possible, and Hulu is simply holding their end of the bargain
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Not to mention they are now owned in part by Comcast after the Comcast/NBC merger. Hulu is a direct competitor with cable companies. They not only block skyfire, but the PS3 as well. It's because they only want user's to watch their content sitting down at a computer. I think it's pretty ridiculous to block skyfire though. I used to watch hulu all the time on my phone before it was blocked since I am rarely at home in front of my computer. Now I pretty much never use hulu.
I did get my fill though when they unblocked it for a short amount of time ^-^ I just found out today that they blocked it again.

Developer Reviews

Scott Hanselman just got his phone:
- http://www.hanselman.com/blog/WindowsPhone7FirstImpressions.aspx
Rob Miles had one for a while:
- http://www.robmiles.com/journal/category/windows-phone

Scott Hanselman's overview was pretty good. He constantly praised the platform as being surprisingly fast and stated he loved the mobile bing maps. The only cons he seems to have is copy/paste.

More importantly the merged Facebook contacts problem. I think we might see that changed before launch.

Hanselman also pointed something I was also afraid of:
Facebook integration with contacts is a mistake.
Also:
"There's a lot of "it just works" stuff going on. I'm used to everything being configurable."

I'm a bit shocked that they don't have a way to control the facebook integration. I mean this is one of Kin's headline features (that you could have different levels of "friends"). Hopefully this is something they're just hiding til launch. Not sure why they would but there's hope.
That being said, it doesn't really bother me since I "only" have about 300 or so people on facebook. If I get annoyed I'll just delete people from my FB. I probably should do that anyways, heh.
doministry said:
"There's a lot of "it just works" stuff going on. I'm used to everything being configurable."
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"It'll take a while to get used to "it just works" from Microsoft. All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised as everything has just worked"

doministry said:
"There's a lot of "it just works" stuff going on. I'm used to everything being configurable."
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Geek problem 101 (most Windows Mobile users in this forum do nothing but scream all day about it.)
The thing is, IT JUST WORKS, so there's little reason to ***** about not having the spend hours configuring things

Windcape said:
Geek problem 101 (most Windows Mobile users in this forum do nothing but scream all day about it.)
The thing is, IT JUST WORKS, so there's little reason to ***** about not having the spend hours configuring things
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It's going to be hard for me at first. But I know it'll be refreshing.

RustyGrom said:
It's going to be hard for me at first. But I know it'll be refreshing.
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just imagine how frustrated you will be if you went back to your old phone after spending time with wp7 & getting use to "it just works", unless of course MS somehow manages to screw up wp7

Windcape said:
Geek problem 101 (most Windows Mobile users in this forum do nothing but scream all day about it.)
The thing is, IT JUST WORKS, so there's little reason to ***** about not having the spend hours configuring things
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Ah by the way I was just quoting a developer review.
So they're probably meaningless geeks.
Why to bring their reviews here than?
I would just give phones to people on the street and make the interviews
with them after 10 - 15 minutes fiddling with device.

But this is Scott Hanselman!

Windcape said:
But this is Scott Hanselman!
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So, what about that?

doministry said:
So, what about that?
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It would make sense to you if you were a developer

What about this:
"If Windows Mobile 7 fails to gain support, three smart phone platforms seem destined to dominate the world:"
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Windcape said:
It would make sense to you if you were a developer
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I have no idea what are you talking about.

vetvito said:
What about this:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1224/4730246915_e1f534ba13.jpg
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Useless data with no information about the target audience is pointless.
MSDN is still king of the developer networks, and everybody who's in the .NET or XNA community is seems ready to play with WP7.
There's a much larger amount of .NET developers wanting to tinker with WP7, than Java developers wanting to tinker with Android.
And the business model is still much better for WP7 than Android. Specially for European application developers, where Android Market still don't support buying applications in a very large number of countries.
doministry said:
I have no idea what are you talking about.
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Of course not. You're just a user, a sheep, you aren't meant to understand anything.
To be fair, the amount of sheeps in this forum keep to amaze me.

Windcape said:
Useless data with no information about the target audience is pointless.
MSDN is still king of the developer networks, and everybody who's in the .NET or XNA community is seems ready to play with WP7.
There's a much larger amount of .NET developers wanting to tinker with WP7, than Java developers wanting to tinker with Android.
And the business model is still much better for WP7 than Android. Specially for European application developers, where Android Market still don't support buying applications in a very large number of countries.
Of course not. You're just a user, a sheep, you aren't meant to understand anything.
To be fair, the amount of sheeps in this forum keep to amaze me.
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You know what, you start to annoy me.
Your post was just simply not clear in context that's why I asked.
If you still want to perfom here this rude and pointless attitude of beeing I don't know who,
just get the **** out of here and spam somwhere else.
I have no reason to be offended here by such a prick.
Hopefully admins see that.

It's not me doing personal attacks and insults to everybody disagreeing with my opinions.

Windcape said:
It's not me doing personal attacks and insults to everybody disagreeing with my opinions.
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Yes it is exactly you, deprecating other posters here.
Actually many "sheeps" here show much better, well based argumentation and better situation overview,
than you "developer" or whoever you are.

Calling non-developers for sheeps is hardly a insult, it's a metaphor, and I didn't invent it.
Using rude/fowl language, personal attacks, and direct insults however, is a totally different story. But it's typical ignorant haters like yourself.

Windcape said:
Calling non-developers for sheeps is hardly a insult, it's a metaphor, and I didn't invent it.
Using rude/fowl language, personal attacks, and direct insults however, is a totally different story. But it's typical ignorant haters like yourself.
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You see, you again use words in a negative context.
In fact I'm not any hater, nor ignorant, nor even typical.
If you don't know what you write stop writing.
But first leave.

ChevronWP7 Labs closing it's doors, WTF?

I read this over at Windows Phone Central, check it out.
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-unlocking-tool-being-discontinuedfor-now
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sinister1 said:
I read this over at Windows Phone Central, check it out.
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-unlocking-tool-being-discontinuedfor-now
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I have a feeling it's in preparation towards newer version for soon-to-be released Tango? They made $90,000 already!

this sucks looks like we will have to rely on the guys at xda for an unlock.

It's true. Moment ago I checked on Chevron page: http://labs.chevronwp7.com/ and I saw text "SOLD OUT" on the pay button

"Tokens Sold Out"
Have they specifically said they are closing doors because I can't see that information anywhere?
I can understand why they are not selling any more tokens, they want to see how the take is and what developers produce.
I have my token and it's been a god send, I can at least prototype and test my app locally before I decide to take a venture commercially and thus purchase the AppHub license+sub (which imo is a good deal).
Hope they haven't shut up shop, such a shame as we need support from these types of service providers (and we in turn need to support them).
Adios and a Happy New Year all.

finalzero said:
"Tokens Sold Out"
Have they specifically said they are closing doors because I can't see that information anywhere?
I can understand why they are not selling any more tokens, they want to see how the take is and what developers produce.
I have my token and it's been a god send, I can at least prototype and test my app locally before I decide to take a venture commercially and thus purchase the AppHub license+sub (which imo is a good deal).
Hope they haven't shut up shop, such a shame as we need support from these types of service providers (and we in turn need to support them).
Adios and a Happy New Year all.
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No they aren't shutting down. From their tweets what I have seen is they wanted to sell out their last lot - 10,000 token ($90,000) and now MS as well as CWP7 team might sit back and expect at least 50% of these 10,000 to be developers! That will obviously surge the apps in case even if 10% of those developers indulge into marketplace - the app numbers will improve a lot! Hopefully, following Tango we might see it re-open.

Well shutting down completely maybe not but they "have no plans to aquire more tokens".
May as well be shutting down. I have my dev account so not overly worried for no but that won't last forever.

Guys, it's all in that article:
Our agreement with Microsoft was to sell no more than 10,000 tokens. Our team doesn’t currently have plans to renegotiate this number, although it’s a matter we’re still discussing."
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The deal with Microsoft was not to sell more than 10000 tokens. Full stop. End of story.

IMO that story:
Guys from ChevronLabs broken Windows Phone 7 preNoDo. Microsoft don't want war, allowed boys to earn 90000 $ by official Chevron version. Now selling tokens unlock for 9$ it's no good for Microsoft because they should close "normal" developer account (99 $ per year).

Budniu said:
IMO that story:
Guys from ChevronLabs broken Windows Phone 7 preNoDo. Microsoft don't want war, allowed boys to earn 90000 $ by official Chevron version. Now selling tokens unlock for 9$ it's no good for Microsoft because they should close "normal" developer account (99 $ per year).
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Actually not really because Chevron Labs tokens can't publish to the Marketplace. Then again I can kind of see a point with what you're saying if someone seeks personal payment for an app that can only go on Chevron unlocked or interop unlocked devices.
Though not sure how much of an impact that would really have because assuming a guy had a chevron lab unlocked device he'd still arguably be buying from both the marketplace and from "independent" developers. Assuming Microsoft wanted to take cuts from developers that badly I can see how they wouldn't let these guys sell any more tokens.

"Our agreement with Microsoft was to sell no more than 10,000 tokens. Our team doesn’t currently have plans to renegotiate this number, although it’s a matter we’re still discussing."
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read official posts..

Chevron was bad news for developers. I think most of those 10 000 unlocks were from regular users, trying to install warez into their phones.

Offical Reply from Chevron
ChevronWP7 Labs and the misinterpreted tweet
I see my friends Alex Wilhelm and Tom Warren covered some comments I made on the ChevronWP7 stream, bless them for that. Specifically, I made two comments on the stream, after successfully selling 10,000 unlocks close to the start of the New Year:
[1] ChevronWP7 Labs enters the New Year with 10,000 token sales under our belt. Hooah! ^RR
[2] Our agreement with Microsoft was to sell no more than 10,000 tokens, hence "sold out". We’re discussing if we want to up that number. ^RR
The use of our and we were references to “the ChevronWP7 team”, i.e. Chris Walsh, Long Zheng, and myself. I mean, the tweet did come from the ChevronWP7 account after all. Here’s how I designed it to be read:
We [the team] are still discussing if we [the team] want to up this number.
Here’s how it was interpreted:
MICROSOFT HATES THE WORLD; MICROSOFT IS SHUTTING DOWN CHEVRONWP7; THEY DENIED THEM TOKENS!!!!11111
Microsoft isn’t involved in our discussion yet. And they can’t provide us with more unlocks because we haven’t asked yet. If we do request more, we’re sure Microsoft will respond positively – as they have in the past.
What frustrates me is that I know and like these guys personally, but corners were cut and no fact checking was performed. Despite being only a Skype call/KiK/email/IM away, no one bothered to contact me or anyone on the team.
Now I’m stuck with cleaning up the mess!
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Hurray!!! Those bloggers spread false rumours

... and ?
When start selling tokens again, I will believe in this information.

Guess we'll just have to see what happens, I think Chevron is just trying not to rock the boat, after all their 'relationship' with msoft only started because they hacked msofts new OS, it has been nice enough to work with them so far.
I have a spare token anyway... wonder if it could fetch a price on ebay... o/j

Budniu said:
... and ?
When start selling tokens again, I will believe in this information.
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...but will you buy one, or wait until they're all gone again and then post about it...?

Dr.8820 said:
...but will you buy one, or wait until they're all gone again and then post about it...?
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Haha my sentiments exactly

Radek Hulán said:
Chevron was bad news for developers. I think most of those 10 000 unlocks were from regular users, trying to install warez into their phones.
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are you against the warez, or against regular users being allowed to unlock... or both ?
just curious

Warez?
I am not so sure most people who bought tokens were non-developers looking to sideload pirated apps. They might be more like me, looking to sideload homebrew apps for missing functionality (Advanced Config, WP7 Root Tools, Registry Editor etc.). We former WM 6.5 owners who moved to WP7 and just want to tweak performance. If I want a paid app, I'll pay for it. I want a clean phone, but slightly tweaked for my purposes. The apps (Except Navigation) are cheap and not woth the hassle of stealing.

I'm wondering when someone will come along with a proper unlock tbh
(hint: free)

Question Samsung Z Fold 3 - Stuck in Retail Mode -- HELP!

Bought the phone from someone on Offerup and the deal was too good to pass up...long story short the phone cannot uninstall or exit from retail mode and I wanted to know if there was a way to remove the retail mode / mdm account associated with it. The account cannot be removed by normal means and I have tried watching some youtube videos - default passwords did not work. I do know it is an AT&T phone from the way it boots.

Just a guess, but it may have been a stolen Demo unit. If so, my only guess to fix the issue is by manually flashing a fresh copy of the firmware through ODIN. There are plenty of tutorials online on how to do this. Just a heads up, I wouldn't be surprised if it may be tracked and or blacklisted if it were stolen.

**** thanks for the heads up. thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

I would try a factory reset first

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**** thanks for the heads up. thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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If this is a stolen device it is a crime to buy and keep stolen devices. I suggest you to give phone to local law enforcement and they can check for any registered match of stolen phones. If it turns out within a few weeks that the device is reported stolen then they will either send it back to store where it belongs or keep it as evidence. But if they find nothing, then they will contact you back and tell you to come and pick it up again. Which means you can keep it and then you may do reflash methods.
By doing this you have low chance for law enforcement to arrest you and think you stole it. Don't forget to tell them you bought it from a person through offerup and you noticed device is stuck in retailer mode. Which you suspect it might be a stolen demo device from AT&T store or something. So they won't think you stole it.

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If this is a stolen device it is a crime to buy and keep stolen devices. I suggest you to give phone to local law enforcement and they can check for any registered match of stolen phones. If it turns out within a few weeks that the device is reported stolen then they will either send it back to store where it belongs or keep it as evidence. But if they find nothing, then they will contact you back and tell you to come and pick it up again. Which means you can keep it and then you may do reflash methods.
By doing this you have low chance for law enforcement to arrest you and think you stole it. Don't forget to tell them you bought it from a person through offerup and you noticed device is stuck in retailer mode. Which you suspect it might be a stolen demo device from AT&T store or something. So they won't think you stole it.
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Solid ADULT and logical advice. THIS is the ONLY way to live your life. Good luck.

I thought retail demo units were missing hardware like the radios for signal?
why put it in if it has no intention of being used?
I could be wrong.

I would return it for a full refund if possible.
If purchased with a MC or Visa contact the bank to try to do a charge back to the vendor.
The bank requires the device be returned however advise them it appears to be stolen.
You may also want to file a complaint with your state attorney general's office.

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I thought retail demo units were missing hardware like the radios for signal?
why put it in if it has no intention of being used?
I could be wrong.
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They are full functioning devices but software locks them into retail mode to deter employees and others from stealing them.

Retail mode cannot be easily removed without the retailers passcode. There are some universal passcodes online you can try but most of them do not work anymore.

JayRolla said:
They are full functioning devices but software locks them into retail mode to deter employees and others from stealing them.
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thanks for clarifying

Don't return it nothing can happen to you bc it's not your fault

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Don't return it nothing can happen to you bc it's not your fault
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That is where you are wrong. If the device is stolen, then he can be arrested for buying a stolen device. Since that is a crime

Jake.S said:
That is where you are wrong. If the device is stolen, then he can be arrested for buying a stolen device. Since that is a crime
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I bought plenty of stolen devices never got into any trouble how can you get into trouble when it's not your fault cops are not gonna come after you for a stolen phone when it's wasn't report stolen to began with and cops not gonna go after anyone stealing a phone unless it's was alot of phones

badazzbubbanc said:
I bought plenty of stolen devices never got into any trouble how can you get into trouble when it's not your fault cops are not gonna come after you for a stolen phone when it's wasn't report stolen to began with and cops not gonna go after anyone stealing a phone unless it's was alot of phones
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And I don't believe what people say that's just dumb stolen devices get sold all over the internet and on ebay and other sites

badazzbubbanc said:
I bought plenty of stolen devices never got into any trouble how can you get into trouble when it's not your fault cops are not gonna come after you for a stolen phone when it's wasn't report stolen to began with and cops not gonna go after anyone stealing a phone unless it's was alot of phones
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It's not a victimless crime. I wouldn't be bragging...
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Greetings to all. While I appreciate all members contributing to this thread, this is indeed something that we do not condone as per XDA Rule #9:
9. Don't get us into trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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Question Verizon is collecting your data without your consent; how do you feel about it?

Verizon notifies its customers about their default participation in Verizon's data collection program​By Preslav Mladenov​
Verizon has begun notifying its subscribers with emails and text messages, informing them that they have been opted-in by default to the program. This comes after Verizon's customers complaining they had automatically been enrolled in Verizon's Custom Experience data collection program.
Verizon said that in order to provide more personalized experiences to its customers, its Custom Experience program collects data about their apps and web activity. Verizon says that a client can opt-out at any time from the program. According to Verizon, if a client chooses to be part of the data collection program, they will get more relevant product and service recommendations. The information gathered will aid Verizon in developing offers that may be of greater interest to the client.
Verizon has created two versions of its data-collection program. The first is the Custom Experience program, which has a default enrollment. The other is the Custom Experience Plus, which collects more information and is optional. With Custom Experience Plus, Verizon could collect the client's location and all the information about the client's phone calls.
To leave the Custom Experience program, go to the privacy settings page on the My Verizon site or app. For more information about Verizon's data collection program, visit the Verizon Custom Experience programs FAQs.
Verizon notifies its customers about their default participation in Verizon's data collection program
Verizon sent notifying emails to its customers to tell them that they are automatically opt-in in their data collection program
www.phonearena.com

Yet another reason to install custom roms....
I have TMobile and they're pretty upfront about opting out of their stuff or at least they were to me

I wonder what this means for people roaming on Verizon's towers

So tl;dr: Verizon is selling your browsing history.
If I had Verizon I'd be canceling service immediately

Flippy125 said:
If I had Verizon I'd be canceling service immediately
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Or you could just opt-out of it.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Or you could just opt-out of it.
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It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?

Flippy125 said:
It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?
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I agree, but this sort of thing is so prevalent, it's nearly impossible to find a competitor who hasn't done something similar at one time or another. I switched from Verizon 4 1/2 years ago for different reasons, though. Sometimes (actually quite often IMHO), technology sucks.

Flippy125 said:
It's just the principle of it. This should have been opt-in and not automatically enabled. How many people will miss the email and have no idea this is happening?
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This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.

gettinwicked said:
This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.
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About that:
Verizon overrides users’ opt-out preferences in push to collect browsing history
Verizon renamed scanning program and enrolled customers who previously opted out.
arstechnica.com

gettinwicked said:
This happens with pretty much everything you use. This is why I check privacy settings on things pretty much right away. I had the Verizon stuff disabled a long time ago.
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Yeah AT&T has it. It says in part it's to help with social programs, comrade. fk that $hit.
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somethingsomethingroot said:
About that:
Verizon overrides users’ opt-out preferences in push to collect browsing history
Verizon renamed scanning program and enrolled customers who previously opted out.
arstechnica.com
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Yeah, that's effed up.. If someone opts out, leave it alone. Pulling a fast one like this to make more money is BS. I checked my settings, and they are still good at least. I'll keep checking to make sure.

where can I find this on the website itself under account? Just want to make sure.

If something like this bothers folks, why are folks buying devices that can't be rooted? Easy solution: install an iptables firewall, such as AFWall+.
Whenever an app is installed, it's a decent bet it's connecting to the internet even if it has no legitimate reason to do so, coupled with enabled receivers for data collection. For some reason, folks only get uptight about data privacy when it's blatant and transparent, yet don't appear to care at all about the inverse, which is the majority of data collection.

I expect nothing less from Verizon. Would have been disappointed if Verizon didn't live up to being the worst provider.