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Color production on SAMOLED screens [SAMOLED vs (s)LCD]

Many people believe that SAMOLED screens on Samsung devices are far superior in every way to other devices. Recently with the addition of all these new and similarly spec'd WP7 phones, it seems like a big deciding factor is the screen display.
I have used a focus and a htc surround for a week in addition to my iphone 4. Watching avatar on both devices, I realize that both screens have their setbacks, thats right even the AMOLED!
The general consensus with htc devices is that the viewing angles are terrible. Check out any video review of a HD7 or Surround and you can see that the screens are extremely washed out when viewed at an angle, and unfortunately, many of these reviewers shoot their videos not head on for obvious viewing reasons.
But when viewed normally, the wp7 htc devices are definitely not as awful as at an angle. Still, it is nowhere near SAMOLED crispness or vibrancy. One thing I did notice, however, is that when watching the same video or viewing the same webpages on my iphone 4, I can rightfully say that the lcd screens from htc are just as good as the overly praised retina display. The differences of colors and sharpness between the two are too subtle to tell.
The SAMOLED screens "pop" in color and vibrancy. Whites are glowing white and blacks are dead on black. No one can say that the Samsung did a bad job on their new screens. However, one thing that people tend to misjudge is the color production on their devices like the focus or omnia 7. It seems that while the surround may not produce white and dark as vibrantly, the ACTUAL colors (red, blue, green) are pretty close to what they should appear. What I am saying is the SAMOLED screens are TOO SATURATED. Again this could all be subjective, but I find that the SAMOLED screen just goes for as vibrant and colorful as they can get, disregarding true color tones. For instance, skin in pictures looks intensely orange and I have never seen skies so blue in real life. Webpage colors can be a bit to contrasting as well. And my opinion is from comparing the SAMOLED to my macbook pro LED screen.
I watched avatar on my blu ray and compared it to the surround and the focus. unfornately to say, the focus just makes the navis look almost syrup-y bubblegum blue. The high contrast of samsung screens are good in some ways but in others, it just seems overdone.
HTC may have made their screens to warm in color, thus appearing a bit washed out when comparing to other wp7 devices. But the AMOLED screen seems too saturated in color production, not just compared to my surround, but also my macbook's screen as well as my LED tv.
So in the end which would you pick? What are your guy's thoughts?

I've never done that kind of testing but my captivate has an awesome screen and I would put it against any other screen. The ritna screen isn't as impressive as apple makes it out to be. At least for me. But I will say these are the best out of all of them. My friend just picked up the x10 and boy does the screen look like $h!#, next to mine.
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I 100% agree with you, infact I have had alot of iphone 4 users comment on how good the screen is on the HD7 which shows what a difference using the phone in a normal way makes when compare to viewing at some obsure angle.
I also have always though the colours look wrong on OLED screens, but having said that, I have always though that about samsungs HDTVs, they seem to over exagerate all the colours and sharpness to make you initially go "WOW", then when you think about it, they just look wrong.
Personally, im happy with my HD7 LCD, and would take SLCD over OLED at the moment.

The over-the-top vibrance is a reason why I went SLCD.
That and the Pentile pattern. My eyes are still well enough to notice fringing on rendered text as well as the pattern generally on evenly lit surfaces.
I had a Nexus One, the OMG-in-your-face colors get old quickly.

thanks for input, the captivate looks amazing running android and playing videos I agree.
But do you think there is a line between displaying vibrancy vs true colors?
Sometimes when I view images in the focus, it feels like I opened a photo in Lightroom or Photoshop and just cranked up the vibrancy settings to the max, resulting in some drastic color contrasts.
But then again, the LCD screens of HTC do seem last generation. If only they could meet in the middle.
@ Tom Servo, I actually think the Nexus One did a good job on their screens. They use regualr AMOLED screens just like the Zune HD from microsoft.
Color production was beautiful. Only complaint with those screens are that they practically turn invisible in sunlight haha.

For me, WindowsPhone7 is all about white letters on black background and some coloured squares in between.
I do not watch videos on the phone and I don't have much photos to display.
So I chose the Omnia7 with that gorgeous SAMOLED screen because it's superior for my use.

SAMLOED ftw. IPSLCD (retina display) is old, Apple just upped the pixel count. Put that many pixels in a SLCD and would look gorgeous.

Take a peek at this article, it has all you need to know:
displaymate.com/Galaxy_S_ShootOut.htm
Scroll down to section 8: Gamut.
You'll see that the SAMOLED is way over-saturated and that the
iPhone4 is very washed-out.
I own a Focus and a Droid, as well as an e-IPS and s-IPS panels, and I can
tell you that the article is spot on. Colors on the Focus are like crayola simple.
If you want accurate colors, then go somewhere else, but if you want the
"wow factor" then go SAMOLED hands down.
Hope that helps.

mrroey said:
@ Tom Servo, I actually think the Nexus One did a good job on their screens. They use regualr AMOLED screens just like the Zune HD from microsoft.
Color production was beautiful. Only complaint with those screens are that they practically turn invisible in sunlight haha.
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I went from Nexus to Trophy. Looking at the same pictures, I actually preferred SLCD. That and as I said, some people notice the Pentile pattern. Which also makes text fuzzier. With Metro being pretty sparse in busy textures and mostly text based, I think it makes more sense to use the display technology that has full resolution on all color channels. AMOLED has currently half the horizontal resolution on the red and blue channels.
In relation to Samsung devices, it's possible they're running their Digital Natural Imagine Engine in background. I haven't had a direct Samsung device with AMOLED, so I can't say.

Oranjoose said:
Take a peek at this article, it has all you need to know:
displaymate.com/Galaxy_S_ShootOut.htm
Scroll down to section 8: Gamut.
You'll see that the SAMOLED is way over-saturated and that the
iPhone4 is very washed-out.
I own a Focus and a Droid, as well as an e-IPS and s-IPS panels, and I can
tell you that the article is spot on. Colors on the Focus are like crayola simple.
If you want accurate colors, then go somewhere else, but if you want the
"wow factor" then go SAMOLED hands down.
Hope that helps.
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That was a GREAT article and very informative, though it can get a bit technical at times. To quote some interesting conclusions from the articles...(NOTE THAT THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO WP7 PHONE RELEASE)
"We compared the Galaxy S side-by-side to a calibrated Professional Sony High Definition Studio Monitor using a large set of DisplayMate Calibration and Test Photographs. All of the photos on the Galaxy S had too much color saturation, to the point of appearing gaudy, particularly faces and well known objects such as fruits, vegetables, flowers, grass, even a Coca-Cola can. Photos that include very color saturated objects, such as a fire engine, were in some cases painful to look at. These effects are similar to setting an HDTV to a Vivid picture mode and then turning up the Color and Sharpness Controls. The punchy and excessively vibrant looking images on the Galaxy S may initially get lots of oohs and aahs, like in many of the early reviews, but after a while the gaudy looking images will become tiresome and unpleasant."
"There is no decisive winner as each of the three “Super” displays significantly outperforms the others in more than one important area and significantly underperforms in other areas. The iPhone 4 by far has the brightest and sharpest display and is the most power efficient of the displays. The Motorola Droid by far has the best picture quality and accuracy. The Samsung Galaxy S by far has the lowest screen reflectance and largest Contrast for both bright and dark ambient lighting, and the best viewing angles. On the flip side, the iPhone 4 has a weak color gamut and viewing angles, the Motorola Droid has weak screen reflectance and viewing angles, and the Samsung Galaxy S has lower brightness, excessive color saturation, higher power consumption and some sharpness issues. "
so there you have it. according to Displaymate,
iphone 4 = best mobile display
motorola droid (surprisingly) = best mobile picture quality
Samsung vibrant = best mobile display technology

Samsung is notorious for producing display panels with oversaturated color pallet.
It is true for their Plasma, LCD, LED's on the consumer grade television sets and now SAMOLED displays on the mobile devices.

the oversaturation of the AMOLED's have been well documented prior to now. it doens't seem to be a problem for many as everyone has different interpretation of colors in their own eyes anyway.
I just think when u put these phone side by side...and contrast and vibrance of the samsung phones is just ridiculous...true color representation kinda falls to the side

The Retna screen is very impressive because the pixel density is much higher than on other screens. That makes reading on the screen MUCH easier on the eyes than on other screens. You may not consciously know it, but eye fatigue does happen and it's a huge consideration when buying a device you will spend so much time looking at. It also means the text will look much better when/if you zoom in on it.
It's like comparing a crappy CRT monitor to a high class LCD.
The color reproduction on sAMOLED is nice.
However, there's more to a phone than the screen.
HD7 has more RAM than other WP7 devices. It has a bigger screen than other WP7 devices. It has more storage than many other WP7 devices.
The only major downside to that phone, IMO, is small battery and the fact that the screen is flush with the front of the phone. Unlike something like a Vibrant, if you drop an HD2 or HD7 on its face it can destroy your screen.
Of course, that can be somewhat fixed with a case... Some people don't like cases, though...

I like the SAMOLED screens, but when I looked at the HD7 it was better than I thought it would be. That being said I do still want the SAMOLED. The other factors leaning me toward the focus (or samsung in general) are the fact that the screen has gorilla glass, making it much less likely to be scratched and when I was playing with the Focus and the Quantum/Surround/HD7 the screen on the Focus also seemed much more sensitive and responsive compared to the others.

Omega Ra said:
...the screen on the Focus also seemed much more sensitive and responsive compared to the others.
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This might have to do with the fact Samsung places the SAMOLED display directly beneath the capacitive screen. Other phones have a much larger space between the two.
The result is Samsung phones are often thinner, and they appear to be more accurate and responsive.

i put my omnia 7 up against a hd7 in the flesh ( metal/plastic) and there is no comparison. Theres just no going back to LCD now. and as for viewing angles, seriously?, viewing angles on a mobile phone? are you kidding me? no one holds their phone at an angle! its not like we are going to mount our phones onto walls and have 10 people gathered around to watch it.

Since having my desire with amoled display for about half a year I won't go back to lcd/slcd because I think the colors are far more superior at least to me.
I went for the Omnia 7 as business device and I couldn't be happier. Build quality is surprisingly very good, perfect screen size for my needs and all in all I'm glad that I didn't choose the HD7 imho.
Regards

It may not be the sharpest of display and not produce the most accurate colour and I wasn't particularly impressed with Galaxy S S-AMOLED screen on android!
However IMHO S-AMOLED looks stunning on WP7 OS, it really compliments the Metro-UI and when put side by side with S-LCD running the same OS it's just not the same! It's for this very reason that I went for Omnia 7 over HD7.

lqaddict said:
Samsung is notorious for producing display panels with oversaturated color pallet.
It is true for their Plasma, LCD, LED's on the consumer grade television sets and now SAMOLED displays on the mobile devices.
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Samsung plasma and in general any plasma is not as oversaturated as other technologies. LCD and LED displays from all manufacturers are setup to be in the "torch" mode (sometimes called dynamic by the manufacturers) to stand out on the floor. And to compensate for the grayish black level they oversaturate the color.
After you calibrate though, they all look the same, almost. LEDs will have a bit of blooming, LCDs will not be as black as plasmas and plasmas will lack the brightness in case you want to watch in a sunlit room.

The iPhone 4's screen looks pretty good, but 3.5 inches? Ugh.

[Q] Why does Pentile suck?

It's actually a serious question. From what I've been reading, I'm supposed to dislike it, but no website I've found had been able to give a quantitative reason why. The screen on my GNex looks perfectly fine to me. Not perfect, but color reproduction is at least reasonable. If I don't have the brightness on full, whites look a little grey, but nothing that would make me say it's terrible. response time for pixels is very good. Images look very sharp and clear to me. I even looked at it with a magnifying glass, and lines looked really clear up close even.
So, what's wrong with Pentile that I'm missing?

Traditional pixels on an LCD have three sub-pixels, red, green and blue. Each lights up at a different level to give you whatever color you need to. For yellow, the red and green pixels light up 100% and blue stays down at 0%. For white, they all light up 100%, gray, they're all ~50%. Etc.
PenTile, in essence, uses some clever tricks to use only two subpixels in each pixel. Every pixel might have a green pixel, but only every other one has a red pixel, with each empty spot being filled with blue. So when you want the same yellow color as before, some pixels will light up 100% (R&G) and others will light up 50% (since it has a green subpixel at 100% and a blue at 0%), creating a slight checkerboard effect that can be visible if the pixels are too large (like on the Nexus One).
However, the pixels on the GN are tiny. You don't see them in normal use. They don't cause many of the problems people ascribe to them (I've read complaints about color accuracy, banding and other crap), thus anyone complaining about them are usually being neckbeards or trolls. It would be preferable to have an RGB 720p vs PentTile 720p, but again you're really not going to notice unless you go look for it.

Archpope said:
It's actually a serious question. From what I've been reading, I'm supposed to dislike it, but no website I've found had been able to give a quantitative reason why. The screen on my GNex looks perfectly fine to me. Not perfect, but color reproduction is at least reasonable. If I don't have the brightness on full, whites look a little grey, but nothing that would make me say it's terrible. response time for pixels is very good. Images look very sharp and clear to me. I even looked at it with a magnifying glass, and lines looked really clear up close even.
So, what's wrong with Pentile that I'm missing?
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I think you will find that a lot of the hate comes from people associating what are screen defects with pentile, rather than pentile issues themselves.

So it was poorly-implemented Pentile that they were complaining about, I suppose. People really seem to hate it, though. There's a group on FB for people who hate Pentile, but none for people who like it. If even the best implementation just means people are OK with it, is there some other benefit, like faster rendering, better battery life, or thinner panels?

Archpope said:
So it was poorly-implemented Pentile that they were complaining about, I suppose. People really seem to hate it, though. There's a group on FB for people who hate Pentile, but none for people who like it. If even the best implementation just means people are OK with it, is there some other benefit, like faster rendering, better battery life, or thinner panels?
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Cheaper manufacturing and better battery life.

Archpope said:
So it was poorly-implemented Pentile that they were complaining about, I suppose. People really seem to hate it, though. There's a group on FB for people who hate Pentile, but none for people who like it. If even the best implementation just means people are OK with it, is there some other benefit, like faster rendering, better battery life, or thinner panels?
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Given the state of technology, you can only make the subpixels so small. So given the timeframe last year, Google/Samsung probably had to choose between having a PenTile AMOLED 1280x720 or an RGB AMOLED 960x540, or go with an LCD which may have worse contrast or power drain. Given the amount of defects on early GN screens, they were clearly pushing the state of the art of AMOLED, even using PenTile. As technology improves, expect PenTile to eventually disappear. It already has on LCD's.

Pentile on resolutions below 720p - sucks and thats a fact. Those ppl on fb are/have used Pentile screens at lower res, 840*48X or even below, as the pixels can be seen and every object looks like as if they were stitched (lil dots) and not glossy smooth.

mythamp said:
Pentile on resolutions below 720p - sucks and thats a fact. Those ppl on fb are/have used Pentile screens at lower res, 840*48X or even below, as the pixels can be seen and every object looks like as if they were stitched (lil dots) and not glossy smooth.
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Most of those people talking about that are probably using Moto devices, which many use a Pentile rgb-w arrangement.
Makes everything look like cheesecloth is overlayed on it.

ATnTdude said:
Traditional pixels on an LCD have three sub-pixels, red, green and blue. Each lights up at a different level to give you whatever color you need to. For yellow, the red and green pixels light up 100% and blue stays down at 0%. For white, they all light up 100%, gray, they're all ~50%. Etc.
PenTile, in essence, uses some clever tricks to use only two subpixels in each pixel. Every pixel might have a green pixel, but only every other one has a red pixel, with each empty spot being filled with blue. So when you want the same yellow color as before, some pixels will light up 100% (R&G) and others will light up 50% (since it has a green subpixel at 100% and a blue at 0%), creating a slight checkerboard effect that can be visible if the pixels are too large (like on the Nexus One).
However, the pixels on the GN are tiny. You don't see them in normal use. They don't cause many of the problems people ascribe to them (I've read complaints about color accuracy, banding and other crap), thus anyone complaining about them are usually being neckbeards or trolls. It would be preferable to have an RGB 720p vs PentTile 720p, but again you're really not going to notice unless you go look for it.
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the issue is not wanting 720p rgb, it's about prefering having like 580p rgb over 720p pentile

[Q] Which Display Mode You All Are Using?

As the title says, which display mode you are using and your thought on why?

I personally switched over to the most accurate mode, funny cause it's called, "Basic Mode." lol. If you use any of the "amoled" modes, it will give you that oversaturated colors. It took me like a couple days to get used to the "accurate" colors though just caues everything was so vibrant before. Personal choice really.
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boodies said:
I personally switched over to the most accurate mode, funny cause it's called, "Basic Mode." lol. If you use any of the "amoled" modes, it will give you that oversaturated colors. It took me like a couple days to get used to the "accurate" colors though just caues everything was so vibrant before. Personal choice really.
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Ya i'm giving basic a try its different but color accuracy is nice.

I went to basic for accuracy then went back to adaptive because I like the way it makes colors pop.
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Basic, all my tvs are calibrated to D65/REC709 and it's nice to finally have a phone that can reproduce this.

started with adaptive the switched to basic and it just seems right

Been using photo.
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NYYFan02 said:
Basic, all my tvs are calibrated to D65/REC709 and it's nice to finally have a phone that can reproduce this.
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Here are some bit on the Rec709 ^_^ It can probably reproduce them better too!
The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used in virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, HDTVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the Absolute Color Accuracy for the Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
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Why is color accuracy important?
Color Accuracy is especially important when viewing photos from family and friends (because you often know exactly what they actually should look like), for some TV shows, movies, and sporting events with image content and colors that you are familiar with, and also for viewing online merchandise, so you have a very good idea of exactly what colors you are buying and are less likely to return them.
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DisplayMate

I love the way adaptive goes color-crazy in bright sunlight, it's like turning the brightness to 11

Lol it goes to "11" brightness in all the other modes ad well.

I tried basic, the onlynthing i noticed is it gave a warmer yellow tint to white. None of the modes mute the oversaturation of colors on this phone. At least it doesnt on mine.I like the pop so it doesnt bother me. If oversaturation is a problem, you should consider an iphone.

abacus0101 said:
I tried basic, the onlynthing i noticed is it gave a warmer yellow tint to white. None of the modes mute the oversaturation of colors on this phone. At least it doesnt on mine.I like the pop so it doesnt bother me. If oversaturation is a problem, you should consider an iphone.
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Actually if you consider oversaturation a problem, go to basic mode. It has more accurate colors than the iphones. Here's displamate. Samsung is KING when it comes to display.
Basic Mode with the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut
The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used in virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, HDTVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the Absolute Color Accuracy for the Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
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Trying basic now. It starting to grow on me.
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I like the adapt mode, but then I had a problem getting a good night exposure with the camera. Finally I realized it was the display mode screwing with how the photo was displayed, not the photo itself, and I've been on basic ever since. Love it.
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Is there any reason to believe that the display mode could drastically change battery life? Logically i cant think of a reason it would, but the only change ive made in the last 2 days is from adaptive to basic, and my battery doesnt seem to be draining near as fast as it had.

Basic is the best.
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Mr.Marc said:
Ya i'm giving basic a try its different but color accuracy is nice.
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Agreed 100%.

Basic is the most accurate phone display I've ever seen color wise and beats the iPhone 6 and 6 plus easily.

Questions for a second-hand XL

Hey guys, just bought a used 2XL off eBay. Everything seems as advertised but I had a couple questions. I'm coming from using an LG G7
1) the screen is a bit warm in hue, is this something normal after presumably 1 year of use?
2) does the Cam have the same features as on the 3 or is there a port I should download?
3) I haven't put my SIM into this. Any call issues or people? (I'm on Freedom in Canada and the phone was purchased from a seller in Canada)
4) anything else you might recommend or that I should be aware of coming from another Android phone?
Thanks for any replies!
Cheers

Not an owner yet, but I can say most phones screens can get warm because of the processor/battery at times. I would not worry about that. Also, you can check Kimovil or willmyphonework to see if it'll get full band support for Freedom. The only thing to be weary of from what I hear is the OLED burn in, which is a danger with any oled phone if you are careless

Are you comfortable with rooting your phone? If so you can put a custom kernel on the device and use a KCAL profile to cool the screens colors, that's what I do.
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@Koray_: Wrong definition of "warm". In this case the OP is asking whether the overall color of the screen is reddish (warm) or bluish (cold).
@VCan25:
P2XL screens seem to vary greatly. After 1 year of use however this might be normal. The blue OLEDs fade more quickly than the red or green.
Top Shot is not available for the P2XL. TBH I haven't checked to see if the camera app ports have it, but Top Shot supposedly requires an AI upgrade that the P2XL doesn't have.
No call issues I am aware of.
The blue shift phenomenon widely reported on these devices is overblown. All OLED screens have blue shift to varying degrees. The screen itself on a new device is set with a color palette closer to the real world. This can be changed in the device settings to give the color palette a bit more punch, or you can set it so it looks a lot like a Samsung display. I personally use the natural color palette, the lowest setting. But people's tastes vary which is why Google added the settings in an early update to the firmware.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Koray_: Wrong definition of "warm". In this case the OP is asking whether the overall color of the screen is reddish (warm) or bluish (cold).
@VCan25:
P2XL screens seem to vary greatly. After 1 year of use however this might be normal. The blue OLEDs fade more quickly than the red or green.
Top Shot is not available for the P2XL. TBH I haven't checked to see if the camera app ports have it, but Top Shot supposedly requires an AI upgrade that the P2XL doesn't have.
No call issues I am aware of.
The blue shift phenomenon widely reported on these devices is overblown. All OLED screens have blue shift to varying degrees. The screen itself on a new device is set with a color palette closer to the real world. This can be changed in the device settings to give the color palette a bit more punch, or you can set it so it looks a lot like a Samsung display. I personally use the natural color palette, the lowest setting. But people's tastes vary which is why Google added the settings in an early update to the firmware.
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Thanks for the detailed response! Been using it on and off for the day and it seems to verify your points. Actually I had tried a Pixel 3 before but call quality was terrible. Dropped calls and receivers couldn't hear me but had no issue today on the 2XL so that was a relief. I found the palette options and I guess it was set to a more saturated level which I didn't like but on natural it seems much better. And I was looking for Top Shot and Super Res Zoom, so I'll check out the ports to see what developers have been able to cook up. Photos have been great so far and I can see why people love the camera. The LG G7 was so saturated it lacked details on zooming in.

Screen Calibration

Can anyone share their screen calibration settings? I wanna get the best whites possible. On my N9 I used to decrease the reds all the way to zero and my greens about halfway but this is a new phone with a different display and those settings aren't doing the same thing. So I just wanted to know what everyone was doing. Thanks.

I think natural mode supposed to be pretty much calibrated already and if you still wanted to tweak it more there is cool/warm white balance slider and rgb sliders.
There is whole bunch of tests here http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note10_ShootOut_1G.htm.

roaduardo said:
Can anyone share their screen calibration settings? I wanna get the best whites possible. On my N9 I used to decrease the reds all the way to zero and my greens about halfway but this is a new phone with a different display and those settings aren't doing the same thing. So I just wanted to know what everyone was doing. Thanks.
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I think natural mode supposed to be pretty much calibrated already and if you still wanted to tweak it more there is cool/warm white balance slider and rgb sliders.
There is whole bunch of tests here http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note10_ShootOut_1G.htm.
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Natural mode can't be further adjusted. You have to choose Vivid to adjust RGB and color temp.
As far as best settings, it's difficult to say what yours should be. If the Note 10 is anything like the Note 8 or Note 9, you can lay four of them down next to each other with stock settings and they will all be different.
My Note 10+ seemed to have too much green tint and maybe just slightly cool. I left temp alone and just knocked green down one notch. But honestly, these screens are so close to perfect you can just leave it stock. Just play around with it, adjust it back and forth until it looks good to YOU. You're the one staring at it.

I have compared four Note 10+'s side by side, and all had different white points. Also, Natural mode was significantly greenish (maybe slightly yellow too) on all four devices. Personally, I feel like my Note8 has a better panel.

According to article I linked above and here again http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_No...hootOut_1G.htm Natural mode supposed to be calibrated and automatically switch between sRGB and DCI-P3 depending on content. (I guess sRGB for pictures and web, DCI-P3 for 4k TV) and can't be easily adjusted. Then there is Vivid mode which uses full color gamut, display is capable of showing and you can adjust it with sliders to your liking or calibrate using instruments. I can't tell you if all phones are properly adjusted at factory (probably not), but according to article the one they had was right on the money and mine seems to be fine as well. BTW the eye can be easily fooled and calibrating instruments are the proper way to adjust it, if you need it. Yet, it is my phone, I don't use it for pro use, so I adjust it the way I like it and mine is set as vivid and gray seems to be neutral gray as far as I can tell without any tinkering. YDMW.

ffolkes said:
I have compared four Note 10+'s side by side, and all had different white points. Also, Natural mode was significantly greenish (maybe slightly yellow too) on all four devices. Personally, I feel like my Note8 has a better panel.
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One of the failings on Android, no color calibration.
You simple can't do it by eye and get all the parameters right.
It's fine for viewing but not editing photos until a company like Spyder steps up to the plate with a 3rd party calibration apk and tool.
Mine seemed best in natural mode with a slight amount of red added with an overlay apk and night mode turned at about the 10 or 20% level.
Lol, enough.
Just don't edit photo colors, temps etc. with or you may get a very rude surprise.