iam getting a voucher from my university to purchase a laptop/tablet. only good tablet available is switch 10 or samsung note 10.1 2014. i was wondering which makes better sense to purchase an expensive android tablet or a slightly cheaper windows 8 tablet .
thanks
rkoforever90 said:
iam getting a voucher from my university to purchase a laptop/tablet. only good tablet available is switch 10 or samsung note 10.1 2014. i was wondering which makes better sense to purchase an expensive android tablet or a slightly cheaper windows 8 tablet .
thanks
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I would get the Note 10 and setup a VM on laptop or desktop at home and remote desktop to it for when I absolutely need access to windows wares.
I find the Note 10 a better device for portable use most of the time so I can live with a remote desktop compromise for the odds times I really need windows.
If you need windows ALL THE TIME then you better go with windows 8 device.
I also have win8 tablet (Asus Vivotab ME400C) and Samsung Ativ 700T i5 convertible with pen.
The Note 10 has better screen, better battery and better pen than my other tablets.
It is also more portable and that's going to be important if you're lugging it around all day.
Also, using micro USB to charge is very convenient as I can use any phone charger if I need to, even tho it takes FOREVER!
Have you considered the HP elitepad 1000?
Windows 8.1 64 bit, active stylus, 1200p screen, slim and light.
If I didnt have my note 10.1 that would be the tab I would be looking at..... even giving serious thought to a switch at the moment, sometimes android's little limitations start to outweigh the wealth of available apps and useful features. Things like clunky file management, mobile browsers and web page rendering issues, quick edits of office products, lack of flash.....
patchseven said:
Have you considered the HP elitepad 1000?
Windows 8.1 64 bit, active stylus, 1200p screen, slim and light.
If I didnt have my note 10.1 that would be the tab I would be looking at..... even giving serious thought to a switch at the moment, sometimes android's little limitations start to outweigh the wealth of available apps and useful features. Things like clunky file management, mobile browsers and web page rendering issues, quick edits of office products, lack of flash.....
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The bit that irks me about the HP Elitepad 1000 is the proprietary port. I don't feel like having another collection of bits.
They should have at least built in a full USB port so you could make do without the dock.
I do like the 4gb RAM tho, since the bay trail is really a 64bit quad core CPU.
Lack of GPS is a dissapointment.
patchseven said:
Have you considered the HP elitepad 1000?
Windows 8.1 64 bit, active stylus, 1200p screen, slim and light.
If I didnt have my note 10.1 that would be the tab I would be looking at..... even giving serious thought to a switch at the moment, sometimes android's little limitations start to outweigh the wealth of available apps and useful features. Things like clunky file management, mobile browsers and web page rendering issues, quick edits of office products, lack of flash.....
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its not available in the website. http://www.studentstore.co.uk/getech/Acer/Acer_Aspire_Switch_10_Tablet_(NT-L47EK-002).aspx
Looking at the company HP itself I'd avoid it.
No surface available?
I'd pick the Note anyway
Hi all,
I'm currently in the process of reviewing the PiPO X7 and have decided to share my findings as so many people are asking questions about this tiny Windows PC.
You can see me booting it and navigating through Windows here:
I have found it excellent so far. Windows is nice and smooth, web browsing is really good and Kodi performance is great! Video playback is generally excellent unless the codec is too taxing on the limited CPU.
Let me know what you think: http://hometheatrelife.com/pipo-x7-review/
I'll keep updating it as I progress and won't give a final score until I'm satisfied.
Hi,
I bought this PiPO (actually the faster X7s, with a boosted speed of 2.16 GHz) for my fiancé for her work.
However, even after upgrading to Windows 10 both the RAM and CPU are almost constantly at 90%+ when she has splitcam running.
Seeing as her PiPO is next to the passive cooling, located on a laptop cooler (so the heat should not be a problem), does anybody know how to (more or less) permanently boost the speed to 2.16 Ghz? Any software settings in Win 10 I missed? Or maybe any Intel / third party software to make it always run at boosted speed?
Next to that the PiPO box states it currently has 2 GiB of DDR3 memory, and seeing a DDR3 strip of 4/8 GiB is not that expensive I was thinking about just adding more RAM. Does anybody know if it is possible to upgrade the RAM?
Does the MoBo support more RAM, or would I need to flash the BIOS maybe?
Thanks in advance.
Only some years ago we saw the first Android USB sticks, they were just a way to put the same hardware that most of mobile phones had but without including screen or camera...
Summary? Quite cheap gadgets with lots of possibilities. The mini PCs had been created!
The best of them was that they directly came with hundreds of thousands of applications (from GooglePlay) and almost everybody knew how to use them since it was the same Android platform they were using on their smartphones.
Beelink was one of the companies from the Shenzhen area (created on 2010) who specialized their activity on home entertainment equipment. And once again, as well as many other companies started manufacturing components until the moment they had cumulated enough knowledge to be able to design and manufacture their own (full products).
But then, on the traditional path of development, Beelink has chosen one interesting partnership: Intel.
Yes, with the huge development of Android devices, some chip manufacturers like Qualcomm, or more recently Mediatek, have experimented a great growth. So in 2013 Intel presented a new strategy focused on recovering this big part of the market they were loosing. And so we started to see a very small (but growing number) of devices equipped with Intel processors.
Of course most of the manufacturers are still presenting Android-based devices, because of 2 reasons: licence price and mobile oriented platform with already a great ecosystem of apps.
However, with the arrival of Intel to the playground, it opened the gate to other operating systems like Windows. And needless to say that Microsoft was also really interested on taking some part of the mobile market.
Putting together the acquired knowledge on MiniPCs and the possibilities of an Intel processor, Beelink bring to us the Intel Pocket P2, a powerful device within the smallest possible place, just a little bigger than an USB flash drive.
Just plugging it into our TV and we will have a full PC with big screen, offering a resolution of FullHD (1920x1080) perfect not only for work since we will have available Microsoft Office and all other Windows software, but a perfect gaming station.
We all know that Windows has the biggest catalog of games.
To make all that possible this small stick has inside a Quad-core Intel Z3735F processor inside and 2GB of DDR3 RAM memory, and all the rest we may need is already included: dual WiFi b/g/n antenna, BT 4.0, 32GB of flash drive for storage and of course the infrared sensor for a remote controller. On the side we will find SD card reader, micro USB for OTG purposes, jack output for audio and HDMI for plugging the screen.
The OS included is Windows 8.1 that will surely be updated to Windows 10 as Microsoft announced recently.
So, we have a very interesting device, I never imagined such an easy way to have a real Windows PC with tiny power consumption that we can bring to anyway for less than 100€.
I leave you here some pictures and the full table of specs
CPU Intel® Bay Trail CR,Z3735F
Graphics lntel® HD Graphics
Bluetooth BT 4.0
RAM DDR3 2GB
ROM Onboard eMMC Flash 32GB
Connectivity WIFI IEEE 802.11b/g/n ; Dual 2.400 GHz ~ 2.497 GHz (2.4 GHz ISM Band) ; IR Sensor ; BT 4.0; USB2.0; OTG Port
OS Support Windows 8.1
Power LED
Power Button
DC in Jack
SD Card Slot
Power management Adapter 5V 2A
Multi -language
Keyboard Qwerty keyboard
Support original ecology and AZW custom UI
Work Environment 5°C--35°C，30%--90% Humidity
Storage Environment -20°C--60°C，10%--90% Humidity
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Thanks OP. Do you have troubles when activated Windows 8.1?
Because i heard people said they have troubles on activating the system on their Axgio mini-pc.
Got a hot deal on fatwallet: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1444331/?newest=1#last
Someone's talking about Windows 8.1 activation problem on it
Nice review. Been wondering about getting one myself.
Is it running Windows 8.1 with Bing?
I know some of these have some issues with the windows license (windows license is free for tablets <8" but this is no tablet), like the Pipo X7 (hence the more expensive Pipo X7S)
Good product though, still have some concerns about the operating experience and overheating problem caused by long time working. Is it easy to connect to the screen?
I also read a lot of user reviews that Windows wasnt activated and they also couldnt. The problem is that Windows 8.1 Bing editions is just free for tablets <8" I think. And this device is actually a desktop because having a HDMI. So youd need a normal Windows 8.1 license for it. I would buy one too but I cant find any information about the pirated Windows license or which ones have activated version on them.
mkdr said:
I also read a lot of user reviews that Windows wasnt activated and they also couldnt. The problem is that Windows 8.1 Bing editions is just free for tablets <8" I think. And this device is actually a desktop because having a HDMI. So youd need a normal Windows 8.1 license for it. I would buy one too but I cant find any information about the pirated Windows license or which ones have activated version on them.
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Iv got the Ainol,pipo x7 & the beelink pocket p1 all of them came with windows 8.1 bing fully activated NOT pirated..The pipo also comes with office 365 which alone is worth £50 but the pipo does over heat a lot
blinkone said:
Iv got the Ainol,pipo x7 & the beelink pocket p1 all of them came with windows 8.1 bing fully activated NOT pirated..The pipo also comes with office 365 which alone is worth £50 but the pipo does over heat a lot
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Ive read all kind of other reviews, people got a 30days trial and it was activated. Also, even if the Bing edition is installed and activated, it's pirated, because like I said, Bing Edition is just allowed by MS on <8" devices, and this one has not even a display, it's a desktop PC.
Have the P1
Seems pretty good. Windows 8.1 activated no problem.
Reasonably snappy, haven't got past luke warm so far.
Have it running as media server for a Squeezbox & running well.
Managed to delete or corrupt the Bluetooth driver & struggling to fine a copy online...let me know if you can help!
No support online anywhere that I can fine... no response from Beelink.
Anyone know where might find appropriate driver?
I have the beelink p1 and the p2 both came activated even after a system refresh.
But I'm not seeing the windows 10 upgrade pop up on both. I also have a linx 8 tablet also running 8.1 with bing and that's not seeing it either. Hopefully win10 will be coming to these devices.
The P1 does get a little hot after a shot time of use but runs amazingly well.
The P2 runs cool no heat cooking. But it doesn't say in the specs but comes with a built in battery.
I think i'm going to try the P2... Nice price right now.
Thanks for the info
mdabar said:
Only some years ago we saw the first Android USB sticks, they were just a way to put the same hardware that most of mobile phones had but without including screen or camera...
Summary? Quite cheap gadgets with lots of possibilities. The mini PCs had been created!
The best of them was that they directly came with hundreds of thousands of applications (from GooglePlay) and almost everybody knew how to use them since it was the same Android platform they were using on their smartphones.
Beelink was one of the companies from the Shenzhen area (created on 2010) who specialized their activity on home entertainment equipment. And once again, as well as many other companies started manufacturing components until the moment they had cumulated enough knowledge to be able to design and manufacture their own (full products).
But then, on the traditional path of development, Beelink has chosen one interesting partnership: Intel.
Yes, with the huge development of Android devices, some chip manufacturers like Qualcomm, or more recently Mediatek, have experimented a great growth. So in 2013 Intel presented a new strategy focused on recovering this big part of the market they were loosing. And so we started to see a very small (but growing number) of devices equipped with Intel processors.
Of course most of the manufacturers are still presenting Android-based devices, because of 2 reasons: licence price and mobile oriented platform with already a great ecosystem of apps.
However, with the arrival of Intel to the playground, it opened the gate to other operating systems like Windows. And needless to say that Microsoft was also really interested on taking some part of the mobile market.
Putting together the acquired knowledge on MiniPCs and the possibilities of an Intel processor, Beelink bring to us the Intel Pocket P2, a powerful device within the smallest possible place, just a little bigger than an USB flash drive.
Just plugging it into our TV and we will have a full PC with big screen, offering a resolution of FullHD (1920x1080) perfect not only for work since we will have available Microsoft Office and all other Windows software, but a perfect gaming station.
We all know that Windows has the biggest catalog of games.
To make all that possible this small stick has inside a Quad-core Intel Z3735F processor inside and 2GB of DDR3 RAM memory, and all the rest we may need is already included: dual WiFi b/g/n antenna, BT 4.0, 32GB of flash drive for storage and of course the infrared sensor for a remote controller. On the side we will find SD card reader, micro USB for OTG purposes, jack output for audio and HDMI for plugging the screen.
The OS included is Windows 8.1 that will surely be updated to Windows 10 as Microsoft announced recently.
So, we have a very interesting device, I never imagined such an easy way to have a real Windows PC with tiny power consumption that we can bring to anyway for less than 100€.
I leave you here some pictures and the full table of specs
CPU Intel® Bay Trail CR,Z3735F
Graphics lntel® HD Graphics
Bluetooth BT 4.0
RAM DDR3 2GB
ROM Onboard eMMC Flash 32GB
Connectivity WIFI IEEE 802.11b/g/n ; Dual 2.400 GHz ~ 2.497 GHz (2.4 GHz ISM Band) ; IR Sensor ; BT 4.0; USB2.0; OTG Port
OS Support Windows 8.1
Power LED
Power Button
DC in Jack
SD Card Slot
Power management Adapter 5V 2A
Multi -language
Keyboard Qwerty keyboard
Support original ecology and AZW custom UI
Work Environment 5°C--35°C，30%--90% Humidity
Storage Environment -20°C--60°C，10%--90% Humidity
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Got this unit about 2 months ago, installed Windows 10 as soon it was available and it works perfectly
Unlike the original Intel compute stick, no problems with BT devices and no noise from fan.
Using it as a HTPC with Kodi (now on 15.2) and could not be more pleased.
It also runs Asphalt 8 with zero problems (and Xbox One gamepad support), so its ideal for a simple but usable Windows PC, either for entertainment or simple workstation.
One thing that i can't found is a method to access the firmware to unlock the CPU speed (its locked at max 1.33Ghz, so turbo mode is never activated if needed), anyone got suggestions?
Mirror please,software is unreachable
Now price of stick is amazing i got one already. But i do have problems with activation and downloading stuffs from baidu ,drivers etc. Please some one to make mirrors for latest firmware ,drivers-old ways to download from baidu didn't work .This is support page i try to write to this guys ,but more than a month zero answer.This is link of there download page,if someone know how to download without Chinese applications ,please do share
armagani said:
Now price of stick is amazing i got one already. But i do have problems with activation and downloading stuffs from baidu ,drivers etc. Please some one to make mirrors for latest firmware ,drivers-old ways to download from baidu didn't work .This is support page i try to write to this guys ,but more than a month zero answer.This is link of there download page,if someone know how to download without Chinese applications ,please do share
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What are you talking about? The P2 comes with Win8.1 in English and ZERO software from 3rd parties.
You can stick a USB bootable storage device on one of the USB ports and install any OS you want from scratch...
If you choose windows 10 or even 8 the hardware is all detected and supported out of the box, plus windows update will install the latest ones. As for firmware, as far as i know there aren't any updates/backups/images... you are stuck with the UEFI that came from factory.
Note: This is a migration of a discussion from Medium to here.
Do you remember seeing this from Linus Tech Tips last year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOaCkbt4lI
$30,000 is not cheap by any standards. Nor does someone really need 7 gamers on one PC. But given a average household of 2 adults, 2.5 children… 3 might be a good in-home run. And even if we divide that by half, $15,000 is out of the reach of most people.
Thankfully in the past 18 months much has changed in the world of PC hardware. Intel Core X and AMD’s Threadripper offer more than enough CPU horsepower to drive an effort like this. New GPUs, despite the mining craze, can be found at great deals if willing to wait. And while we are waiting to see what the end solution will be for Intel’s high end of Core X we can certainly do it with what’s out today for far cheaper.
So the plan is this: An AMD Threadripper 1950X, 64GB of RAM, 3 m.2 SSDs and SSD storage to divide amongst the users. At the time Linus used the Fury X — this year we have Vega on AMD or anything at or above a GTX 1070 on NVIDIA. We’ll use Hyper-V to allow a local session and then provide 2 others — great since it’s free and has a friendly user interface for setting up.
The awesome part about this? While the concept here is gaming for demanding applications, there is absolutely no reason that no other environment couldn’t be similarly virtualized. For example — this household currently uses 5 PCs on a regular basis. Each one of those ran a minimum of $500. What if I could take all of that and put it in one PC — for slightly more cost but a heck of a lot easier to build and maintain? Want a build machine in Linux while running Windows? Shoot — we can already do that with Ryzen 7!
So here’s the start of the build list. Yes, it’s a bit expensive — but far less than both Linus’ build last year and the build AVADirect built for GTC earlier this year. The pricing here can also be easily tweaked a little bit in each direction to either build a better overall system or make it within your needs/budget.
Well, the concept is the easy part. Now it’s time to see what can be done to make this a reality. Virtualization in the consumer space has been waiting for the right catalyst — and it seems we may finally have it. Again… now it’s time to prove that.
I wanted to share some additional details. First, I've been told that several forum members on Level1Techs have been working on this on Fedora.
One of their writers shared the progress, looks like it's limited to Vega on the Radeon side and requires some fixes.
I'm going a different direction, trying to get this going through Ubuntu and Xen. Hyper-V didn't support direct GPU passthrough so it's out.
I'm trying to get a link for the Fedora discussion and I'll post my own progress here. At the moment though it's on hold until we get a CPU.
Need help with my LGE LGLS990 "ALT Switch" Gaming console Project (G3 Boost Mobile)
Wasn't sure which G3 forum to put this in due to none being devoted to this specific one so please forgive me if this isn't the right place. Recently I was looking at the Nintendo Switch for some on the go gaming and noticed how difficult it was to find one in stock at any local retailers. Well after getting online and only finding overpriced, Switch Lites going for regular Switch MSRP and standard Switch prices running in the $500 range I decided maybe it would be possible to come up with a "ALT Switch". My requirements seem to be met by the G3, decent SOC, 32gb onboard storage, 3gb ram and a sub $30 dollar price. I plan on pairing this with a bluetooth controller, 64gb sd card and a OTG hub with hdmi and charging. So with the hardware sorted out I started testing various games out and almost everything works pretty well. My problem comes when I play Call of Duty Mobile. It of course runs in low graphics mode but that isn't too bad, the problem comes when it randomly crashes out of the game or lags real bad. I have a LG Rebel 4 with a Snapdragon 425 and 2gb of ram that handles the game on about the same level and is more stable. So I've narrowed down the problem to the outdated OS and trying to run the games in 2560x1440. I would like to drop the resolution down to 1080 but there's no option for that so I started looking for ways to do it. Seems it's possible with a couple programs but those all need ROOT access. So between that and the benefits of a newer version of android I decided to look into rooting and installing a custom rom. Long story short, I've had no luck. If anyone knows of a easy to follow guide to root, unlock the bootloader and install a newer version of android on this hardware I'd love to hear about it. I'll be doing a article and possibly a video on this project depending on how far I can get.
Hmmmmmm......
Okay... Since no one has any ideas does anyone know anybody on the forum who knows their stuff and would be trustworthy enough for me to send my G3 to and have it rooted at the very least? I really think the hardware on the G3 is plenty powerful enough to play anything out there at a good level of detail and good frame rates. I think lowering the screen resolution dropped to 720p or 1080 and change of the performance governor to non interactive mode would give close to top tier chipset performance without the price penalty.
bigwootoo said:
Wasn't sure which G3 forum to put this in due to none being devoted to this specific one so please forgive me if this isn't the right place. Recently I was looking at the Nintendo Switch for some on the go gaming and noticed how difficult it was to find one in stock at any local retailers. Well after getting online and only finding overpriced, Switch Lites going for regular Switch MSRP and standard Switch prices running in the $500 range I decided maybe it would be possible to come up with a "ALT Switch". My requirements seem to be met by the G3, decent SOC, 32gb onboard storage, 3gb ram and a sub $30 dollar price. I plan on pairing this with a bluetooth controller, 64gb sd card and a OTG hub with hdmi and charging. So with the hardware sorted out I started testing various games out and almost everything works pretty well. My problem comes when I play Call of Duty Mobile. It of course runs in low graphics mode but that isn't too bad, the problem comes when it randomly crashes out of the game or lags real bad. I have a LG Rebel 4 with a Snapdragon 425 and 2gb of ram that handles the game on about the same level and is more stable. So I've narrowed down the problem to the outdated OS and trying to run the games in 2560x1440. I would like to drop the resolution down to 1080 but there's no option for that so I started looking for ways to do it. Seems it's possible with a couple programs but those all need ROOT access. So between that and the benefits of a newer version of android I decided to look into rooting and installing a custom rom. Long story short, I've had no luck. If anyone knows of a easy to follow guide to root, unlock the bootloader and install a newer version of android on this hardware I'd love to hear about it. I'll be doing a article and possibly a video on this project depending on how far I can get.
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