Android 11 doesn't pick up External DAC - LG Wing Questions & Answers

Wonder if anyone has a solution to an external DAC not working after Android 11 update.
Essentially audio only plays through device speakers no sound comes through my headphones.
Clearly this always worked without issue in Android 10.
I'm using UAPP which always worked previously.
I've looked at all USB settings in Developer Options but nothing seems to help.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks

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[Q] lollipop and dac

When my Tab S 10.5 was running Kit Kat, it worked perfectly with my hifimediy Sabre dac. I was very excited when I auto-updated to Lollipop, which did seem to help battery life, speed, etc. It's just that the Dac stopped working. It clearly recognizes the device. Sounds even come out of it, it's just badly distorted and starts and stops.
Is this a lollipop problem or do Ihave to see if hifimediy will write a driver for lollipop? Is there any way to solve it other than going back to kitkat?
chancelucky said:
When my Tab S 10.5 was running Kit Kat, it worked perfectly with my hifimediy Sabre dac. I was very excited when I auto-updated to Lollipop, which did seem to help battery life, speed, etc. It's just that the Dac stopped working. It clearly recognizes the device. Sounds even come out of it, it's just badly distorted and starts and stops.
Is this a lollipop problem or do Ihave to see if hifimediy will write a driver for lollipop? Is there any way to solve it other than going back to kitkat?
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I just posted a similar thread - hadn't spotted yours sorry otherwise would have added to it (just found yours by doing a google search)
I have a Fiio E17 which worked flawlessly on both my Note 3 (Snapdragon chipset) and Tab S 10.5 with 4.4
with 5.02 Lollipop no longer works with my Tab S (haven't dared upgrade my Note 3)
very very annoying
I have a Fiio E17 and I tried connecting it to my 10.5 after upgrading to lollipop and almost busted my ear drums. I haven't tried connecting it before upgrading, so I am not sure if it worked before, but it sure as hell ain't working now. The sound comes out completely distorted.
I just bought an Oppo Ha-2 and doest work with the Lollipop Tab S 10.5
Any workaround to this yet?
There's an option in Developer Options to Prevent routing to USB peripherals. I made sure that's unchecked. I checked USB Debugging. Still the same.
Tab 8.4 same problem with use of External DAC
I just purchased a Tab S 8.4 ( Lollipop) and tried to use an external DAC ( Audio Engine D3) via OTG cable . There is power to the DAC but no sound . So I installed Onkyo Player , now I get sound but its horrible with lots of distortion. I have not tried the USB Audio Player Pro yet.
USB Audio Player Pro is the answer to this, excellent player and worth the £5.80 it costs, i had the same issue with the Galaxy Alpha and this was the only way i had it working perfectly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_GB
I have the same problem on an Samsung Galaxy S2 on 12.1 and the last Gustavo Kernel.
Using USB Audio Player Pro did not help as it reports "Failed to submit USB transfer! Your device probabyl does not support for isochronous USB transfers".
Also it does not detect the "HiFimeDIY Sabre Android DAC" only the larger "HiFimeDIY Sabre USB DAC ES9023 96kHz/24bit".
Anyone managed to make it run on any Kernel? What Kernels have you been using? The stock Kernel?
hydrouk said:
USB Audio Player Pro is the answer to this, excellent player and worth the £5.80 it costs, i had the same issue with the Galaxy Alpha and this was the only way i had it working perfectly.
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I just tried the demo version today. It worked like a charm the first time . This seems to be the only player that works with my Audioengine D3 with no stutter etc and also no external power is required . I am going to buy the App.

[solved] no audio from the jack output to amp / ok with headphones

hello
i have an issue with the mini jack audio out :
it sends signal when i plug headphones, but when i'm trying to pass music to a party, using cable such as jack/rca to amp, mixing table or external effect, the phone acts as there is nothing plugged : the sound still comes from its internal speakers.
i tried this in many situations, using all kind of cables and have really no explanation about that (maybe the impedance differs ?)
i found a workaround using a double jack adapter : i can plug both cable and headphones, it continues to work when i remove the headphones, as long as i don't remove everything.
do you have any idea about what could cause this issue or do you experience the same ? do you think it could be software related ?
i use cyanogenmod 13 latest nightly (android 6.0.1)
thanks !
I'm having the same problem and also on cyanogenmod 13. Didn't try it on factory firmware so don't know if it's software related.
thanks for your feedback i feel less alone !
please people if you have this phone and can try to plug it to an external sound system by jack, can you tell us if it works or not and what is your os ?
thanks, that would be much appreciated !
I have this problem with some setups too.
The latest nightly (20160408) seems to have a fix for this problem. I haven't tried it yet though.
just tried and it works, thanks a lot !

Surround sound via usb sound card -- is it possible?

Hi!
I'm trying to hook up my shield to an old set of T7900 Inspire speakers. I don't have an AV receiver and would like to get surround sound via these speakers. I'm using a USB sound card that works fine with these speakers using a windows laptop, but when I tried to use the same card with the Shield, I'm only getting normal stereo. I've gone into settings and enabled 5.1 surround (auto and always on), used sources that I know are 5.1-enabled, but to no avail.
I suspect the USB sound card (which is a crappy one I'll admit) doesn't play well with Android. However, I can't find a single sound card that is guaranteed to play well with Android. So...
Do you know of any usb sound cards that work well with Android and support (at least) 5.1 surround, ideally 7.1? Has anyone done something like this with their Shields?
Thanks!
I have a asus xonar u7 USB sound card, but with the shield only stereo is possible. I think for 5.1 vor 7.1 sound we need some special USB driver's for android
Androilala said:
I have a asus xonar u7 USB sound card, but with the shield only stereo is possible. I think for 5.1 vor 7.1 sound we need some special USB driver's for android
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It has to be the USB thing specifically though, because there's already a setting for 5.1 sound :/
Androilala said:
I have a asus xonar u7 USB sound card, but with the shield only stereo is possible. I think for 5.1 vor 7.1 sound we need some special USB driver's for android
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Here the same. I try 2 different usb 2 analog mutlichannel audio converter, no success. Only stereo.
nvidia or android need to react to this problem.
Greetings by Idijt
Hi,
I use "Turtle beach Audio Advantage Micro II", that can passthrough 5.1 audio:
With the last Nougat update and Kodi 17 is giving some problems, but Kodi 16 and modified Kodi 17 versions (known as ****ty) it still works fine.

HTC Max 320 Earphones on the HTC 10

Hey, guys! I've recently purchased the HTC Hi-Res Adaptive Sound 2.0 Headset (Max 320). I've tried to use those on the 10 but had no luck. These headphones which use the Type-C input should technically work on the 10 as it supports the "Hi-Res Audio", but all I get when I plug in the Headset is "Accessory not supported". Could this be a hardware issue or a firmware issue? So I wanted to ask if any of you guys have it and if you do, how did you get it to work? I've also attached a screenshot of the message.
ravish_919 said:
Hey, guys! I've recently purchased the HTC Hi-Res Adaptive Sound 2.0 Headset (Max 320). I've tried to use those on the 10 but had no luck. These headphones which use the Type-C input should technically work on the 10 as it supports the "Hi-Res Audio", but all I get when I plug in the Headset is "Accessory not supported". Could this be a hardware issue or a firmware issue? So I wanted to ask if any of you guys have it and if you do, how did you get it to work? I've also attached a screenshot of the message.
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I'd try going under the developer options of your phone and checking the USB input and changing it to see if that gets you anywhere. It'd be pretty weird if the headphones are phone specific. I have a different pair of USB C headphones that have active noise cancellation that work on my other headsets. As a last attempt, try downloading the free trial of USB Audio Player and see if the headphones work with that app.
mnguyen127 said:
I'd try going under the developer options of your phone and checking the USB input and changing it to see if that gets you anywhere. It'd be pretty weird if the headphones are phone specific. I have a different pair of USB C headphones that have active noise cancellation that work on my other headsets. As a last attempt, try downloading the free trial of USB Audio Player and see if the headphones work with that app.
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Hey @mnguyen127! I've tried what you told me to do, by changing the input type but it didn't work. I've tried all the options in the developer settings but it didn't work out. Do you have any other ideas?
ravish_919 said:
Hey @mnguyen127! I've tried what you told me to do, by changing the input type but it didn't work. I've tried all the options in the developer settings but it didn't work out. Do you have any other ideas?
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Have you tried the USB audio player app? That thing has worked wonders for me when it comes to finicky USB C
I'm in a similar situation, and nothing I've tried worked. Now, I saw someone mention something about firmware on another similar thread, so we might just have to wait for when HTC finally decides to update the 10
I have a pair of JBL Reflect Aware C which are USB-C active noise cancelling headphones, but I've noticed that after a certain update, my headphones won't work without the USB Audio Player app. Same thing happened on my Google Pixel which makes me think that if you roll back the update on your phone, you'll probably get audio out of USB-C.
the high-res certified has nothing to do with the headphone Support. the suppor for those headphones are disabled so deep in System stuff, that me and other couldn't get it to work, even with Sound stuff from u Ultra and u11. you can't use them unless HTC supports them on the 10
I still have those from the Bolt when I tested the device. but can't use them. so either HTC Needs to fix it in their Firmware or they don't want it or so. maybe the cables inside are different from other usb c Audio devices so that might be a Problem too
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
the high-res certified has nothing to do with the headphone Support. the suppor for those headphones are disabled so deep in System stuff, that me and other couldn't get it to work, even with Sound stuff from u Ultra and u11. you can't use them unless HTC supports them on the 10
I still have those from the Bolt when I tested the device. but can't use them. so either HTC Needs to fix it in their Firmware or they don't want it or so. maybe the cables inside are different from other usb c Audio devices so that might be a Problem too
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Thanks for explaining it !!!
I guess I'll just hold on to my Brand New HTC U Sonic headphones. What is going on with HTC!!!!!!!
Usb port its not for headphones only for charging go for adapter

Question USB DAC issues

I'd like to reach out to anyone still having issues with USB DACs on the 6 and 6 Pro
The 6 and 6 Pro still have a bug where they don't properly pass on original audio streams to connected DACs. Depending on the DAC, you'll hear screeching, no audio at all, or severely reduced audio quality due to resampling by the OS. Apps like UAPP and Tidal don't work properly because they can't directly access connected DACs (so true MQA playback is impossible)
If you are affected by this bug, please star and comment on the buganizer tickets here, here and here. It would be worth our while to use the Send Feedback option within settings, and/or contact support to raise a ticket and submit bug reports (I realize this does take some time investment)
Hopefully I'm not the only crazy one using a DAC with a P6 screaming out into the ether. Help
More on what I'm talking about here, here, and here
yeah - something weird is going on. I love this phone so much. my Hidisz Sonata USBC DAC is completely hit or miss, sometimes it works, other times it won't. And the BTR5 can't play LDAC at full Audio quality only Adaptive - but both devices work on the 3 XL no problem, since day one. really weird.
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
A.Priori said:
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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USB DACs like the Sonata from Hidisz, or the BTR3/BTR5/Qudelix etc
I have the same problem, and sometimes it stops the music itself, pretty annoying
Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but they did not do any test to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACs with 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
Nemuritor01 said:
Guess I was one of the first guys to report this issue. December update did not fix it. Google removed the headphone jack and forces people to use DACs and Dongles, but on they did not do any tests to ensure all STANDARD products are working correctly. You can use those DACa on 100$ phones and get better audio than with a pixel 6 or 6 pro. It's a joke and impedance from Google and definitely the last phone I bought.
And just to mention, I have some experience with android audio. I was working with the guys from sauron audio port and did a lot of other stuff. The DAC which seem to work are just playing with native/android software processed sampling rates. This is ****ty low quality. Any app, which tries to connect directly to the external DAC to play high res and bypass Android audio processing crashes. So buy a 10 dollar DAC, as any more expensive better solution won't work or gives you same crappy audio.
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I appreciated seeing your thread about this and I've quoted it while contacting support. Best we can do is star and comment on those issuetracker pages linked above, and in settings, Send Feedback and contact support to submit bug reports
It's frustrating because DACs work fine on literally every other Android or iOS device (my Note 3 from 2013 still has no issues with this)
Even more frustrating is that if you try to use a Bluetooth LDAC DAC, you can't force 990 kbps. That's a separate issue
A.Priori said:
That's weird, do you mean DAC connected via usb? I ask because my BT DAC is working great via LDAC codec.
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Are you able to force it to run at 990 kbps without stuttering? Different common issue it seems, equally frustrating
Google Pixel 6 bug is preventing audiophiles from using external DAC to listen to music
there's a few things wrong here. #1 is regular $15 DACs in many cases don't work (let alone $100-$300 ones). #2 you can't force 990kbps most of the time (in the 3 Bluetooth DACs I've tried and many others also, it constantly studders). so there's a few things wrong here that need to be looked at and resolved by Google.
I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
mpjune69 said:
I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues - mainly connectivity related. But I'm expecting things to go south once I receive my A.Q. Dragonfly Cobalt DAC/AMP. I have some nice Bluetooth phones that sound very nice, buy nowhere near the sound quality I receive through my LG G-7.
The G-7 has a pair of ESS DACs, and a more powerful amp setup. I found Qobuz's MQA files and the Tidal Masters that sound phenomenal. Especially ultra-high quality remasters of late 80's-90's albums.
The V-60 had a similar setup, but I traded that in for the P6 Pro, 256GB model. Qobuz and Tidal let you download MQA files while your subscription is active.
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I was hoping against hope that someone has a P6/Pro with the same DAC to learn of the their experiences so far.
Tried that DAC; all audio gets resampled to 48 kHz I believe (so no direct access/true MQA playback). Patiently waiting to see if the January update fixes this
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is their reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
rmc6901 said:
I reached out to the developers of USB Audio Player Pro as it has been removed from the Play Store for the 6 and 6 Pro. Here is there reply:
"Dear Robert,
True. The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro have a kernel bug that prevents third party USB audio driver from working, that's why we excluded it from the Play Store. We reported the issue to Google but we do not know when or whether they will fix it. You can track it here:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/210687963
We have verified all other apps that utilize their own USB audio driver and they do not work either, or fallback to the low quality Android driver. You can write that all apps that use the USB host API to play audio to a USB DAC do not work on the Pixel 6, including USB Audio Player PRO, Tidal, Neutron, Hiby, etc.
You can install this apk if you really want to run the app:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/priv_downloads/USBAudioPlayerPRO_6032c_pixel6.apk
Then you can turn off 'Use USB DAC' in the app's USB audio tweaks if you want to use the Android USB audio driver."
Kind regards,
Davy
eXtream Software Development
https://www.extreamsd.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AudioEvolutionMobile
Twitter: https://twitter.com/extreamsd
If anyone finds out that Google has fixed the issue, please let us know. Someone on Reddit said XDA has a workaround? If so, please provide a link to the thread or sub-thread.
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Everyone should star (*) that issue.
cmh714 said:
My Hidizs DAC works fine on the November .036 OS. About to reboot with January and expect it to work so I hope....
Havent tried my older DragonFly. Now just wish USB Audio Player Pro gets updated for the 6....
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You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
Nemuritor01 said:
You would have a special Pixel 6, if your DAC really works in bit perfect mode... Like tidal MQA, USB Audio Player Pro and others.
I would state, it's impossible. Neither November, December or January Update fixes this issue.
You are playing low quality resampled music. Most DACs are capable of way more.
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You Are CORRECT!!! I miswrote previously....I concur, external DAC does NOT work!!
Can confirm that the January update does not fix this issue.
Everyone, please star comment on the issuetracker threads in the OP, and continue to Send Feedback and Contact support from the Settings app
I don't know whether this magisk module would help you or not:
GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter.
USB (HAL) Audio Class drivers on Android have a limiter of sample rates at 96kHz. This magisk module unlocks the limiter. - GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/usb-samplerate-unlocker: USB (HAL) Audi...
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