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Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
Jeeza said:
Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Which features you think I would miss the most?
Jeeza said:
Which features you think I would miss the most?
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The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
kyooohei08 said:
The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
iiyn said:
No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
Simion Catalin said:
so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
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Yeah, pretty much. Even inside the GCam thread for the s9 there are plenty of people saying it's not as good as stock. It's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped ship from Samsung Experience yet.
Also, more vibrant color != better photos. They might LOOK better but what I look for in a smartphone camera is color accuracy. If you like saturated hdr+ overblown shots so be it, to each their own.
When i bought the S8, I was hoping that the dev comunity could after some month port an AOSP rom on it but nothing stable really happend. It's a shame because I always prefered stock roms. Then the s9 came with de Treble project and this was for me the best feature that could ever been done.
You have everything that you could wish :
- Sweet design of the galaxy serie with the infinit display and for me the most beautifull overall body design (without the f*****g notch)
- Very great battery life (it easily last the day without have to charge during the day)
- The best performances, smoothness.
- No bugs at all
I always said that the galaxy series had the most complete phones in the market. But TouchWizz was the point where i always been frustrated about. With LOS, i'm ready to say that the S9 is probably the best phone you can get on the market.
Btw, don't worry about the camera's quality. It's still good even whitout samsung's camera framework.
Peace !
Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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The GCam Im talking about is the one from gapps, not the gcam ported from pixel 2 which has HDR+ capability. I agree GCam with hdr+ is superior when it comes to contrast and details, but you dont get it when you are in LOS. That's what Im referring to.
Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10
really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.
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You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else
After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.
Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.
Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.
Exactly
I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.
Same story every year for the Hong Kong variant! The same thing happened to my SM-G9650 with Android Pie.
Patience young one, it will come and you'll probably get a better initial experience than everyone else.
I'm not too bummed yet because I hear Good Lock hasn't been updated for 10 which would stop me from updating anyway. But once that happens...
I just ordered a N9750 coming from the Oneplus 7 pro which runs 10, not happy
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered a N9750 coming from the Oneplus 7 pro which runs 10, not happy
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Just out of interest, which features of Android 10 are you going to miss by temporarily going back to Android 9?
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Just out of interest, which features of Android 10 are you going to miss by temporarily going back to Android 9?
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number one for sure would be the gesture navigation - it is absolutely the best, the samsung one is just rubbish. ALso music controller and scribbling through the playing audio directly from the notification shade although im not sure if thats a oneplus feature or android 10. Im sure there will be a lot of other things il miss that i dont know yet!
First versions in major updates always come out with some bugs, For me, It is better to update when all wrinkles have been ironed out
Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.
intruda119 said:
Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.
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I'm not dying too get it, but I am looking forward to the faster sharing menu, native dark mode and the potential for a Samsung Pay issue I'm having to get resolved. That, and I'm hoping the camera's aggressive noise reduction is itself reduced, lol.
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Do the users the device is intended for actual card about Android 10?
Serious question.
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I'd say the average Note10+ buyer is probably fairly interested in the version of Android it's running, yes. They are someone that is probably expecting one of the best Android experiences possible, especially when you consider the cost of the handsets.
Does anybody know if they fixed the ps4 dualshock 4 pairing with Android 10? That's 1 of the reasons of the update I want and gestures.
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Does anybody know if they fixed the ps4 dualshock 4 pairing with Android 10? That's 1 of the reasons of the update I want and gestures.
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Are you a Samsung UI launcher person? If so, you're in luck as that's the only launcher the new gestures support.
Yes all I have to do is apply the update. I use this phone mostly for gaming and a few months ago someone posted that the dualshock 4 pairing would be fixed with Android 10 I just want a conformation on that b4 I start downloading. I'm still on release firmware in hopes for root but if I can use my ps4 controller I would gladly update
Is it maybe possible to flash other snapdragon rom on this n9750 version?
Nevermind I gonna sell this peace of garbage
(choir) Hallelujah!
It beat "the estimate" on the street, lol.
waqqas.khokhar said:
(choir) Hallelujah!
It beat "the estimate" on the street, lol.
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Yes me to today, finally :good:
Only 1 thing the notification ring on the top does not bling when s an your eyes for faceunlock
Can the Note 10+ Hong Kong get flashed with stock Android 10 ROM from another region and get it done that way? And what about root? Can it be rooted afterwards again under Android 10 or not?
The truth of the matter is I see zero benefits on an upgrade. Android 9 works flawlessly on my rooted 10 Plus and there isn't anything on Android 10 that I already can't do with my Android 9 firmware. I never quite understand this "upgrade" rush everyone seems to have..
Heck.. I'm still on Android 8 on my Note 8 and everything works flawlessly with all my apps and setting such as on my newer Note 10+. THE ONLY thing about my Note 8 that needs an "upgrade" is the p...e-of-s..t AMOLED display that is burnt in everywhere.. and no firmware will fix that.
Gosh I miss LCDs.. Samsung AMOLED panels ALL last less than a couple months before they start burning in.. all of them.
VeEuzUKY said:
The truth of the matter is I see zero benefits on an upgrade. Android 9 works flawlessly on my rooted 10 Plus and there isn't anything on Android 10 that I already can't do with my Android 9 firmware. I never quite understand this "upgrade" rush everyone seems to have...
I'm still on Android 8 on my Note 8 and everything works flawlessly with all my apps and setting such as on my newer Note 10+.
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I also do not understand people who want to move as quickly as possible to a new version of Android, it is better to wait for bug fixes.
if you consider that fixing security vulnerabilities is useless, yes you can stay on android 8
VeEuzUKY said:
THE ONLY thing about my Note 8 that needs an "upgrade" is the p...e-of-s..t AMOLED display that is burnt in everywhere.. and no firmware will fix that.
Gosh I miss LCDs.. Samsung AMOLED panels ALL last less than a couple months before they start burning in.. all of them.
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I have my Note 10+ more than 3 months and the screen has nothing. I did not have burns on the screen of my Note 2, which I had for more than 4 years ?
Hello. I noticed that after the new Android 10 update the galaxy S10 series all got the long exposure camera update in Pro mode and are now capable of shooting up to 3200 ISO and 30 second shutter speed. Sadly the S9 series didn't get so lucky and stayed at the previous limit of 800 ISO and 10 second shutter speed. I don't think that there's a huge hardware difference between both model's primary 12MP cameras so I was quite disappointed that we got left behind. Also I don't think there will be any huge software updates for the S9 series since it's already a 2 year phone, so I was wondering if there could potentially come out a custom camera app that would unlock the current limitations of the camera?
Without full Camera2Api, I don't think it's easy to make a custom camera app which can take 10 second exposure shot, let alone 30 seconds.
But it IS FULL Camera2API. I downloaded the app and it has "FULL" checked and "LEVEL_3" , "LIMITED" and "LEGACY" are all crossed out.
That's weird, for me it's limited. I don't know.
Haven't checked in Android 10 though, might as well do it.
Yeah, the latest One UI 2 with Android 10 shows with Camera2api FULL Hardware Support Level. That's why I'm so confused...
Hey, I am waiting for one ui 3.0 for so long. Is there anyone who can port it for S7.
Your work would be appreciated and I will promote the Rom too on my YouTube channel.
Short answer, no.
Long answer, absolutely not.
The best option for you is to wait for someone to create a one ui 3 rom. Impatient? Do It Yourself.
Unless you get a newer device that supports one ui 3.
riojosepha said:
Short answer, no.
Long answer, absolutely not.
The best option for you is to wait for someone to create a one ui 3 rom. Impatient? Do It Yourself.
Unless you get a newer device that supports one ui 3.
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Too hash bro. Even j7 got one ui 3.0 android r. Hw cant s7 ,which can perform far more better than j7 cant get a ported one ui 3.0 dude. Too rush in giving answer to this guy who just asked a great question. The developers of roms surely will port for s7. It will be disgraceful if even j7 can perform one ui 3.0 where else s7 cant? This even doesnt make sense dude. Never rush in giving answer. Son
Banksdj said:
Too hash bro. Even j7 got one ui 3.0 android r. Hw cant s7 ,which can perform far more better than j7 cant get a ported one ui 3.0 dude. Too rush in giving answer to this guy who just asked a great question. The developers of roms surely will port for s7. It will be disgraceful if even j7 can perform one ui 3.0 where else s7 cant? This even doesnt make sense dude. Never rush in giving answer. Son
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S7 needs stable ROM with every feature working, who cares if a OneUI 99 port exist, if it crashes, and/or is missing features ?
To this day, I'm still using ALEXNDR (port of the official ROM on OneUI 1.0/Android 8.0) because it's the only bug-free and feature-complete ROM, every other ROMs have issues and is missing features.
mooms said:
S7 needs stable ROM with every feature working, who cares if a OneUI 99 port exist, if it crashes, and/or is missing features ?
To this day, I'm still using ALEXNDR (port of the official ROM on OneUI 1.0/Android 8.0) because it's the only bug-free and feature-complete ROM, every other ROMs have issues and is missing features.
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Look dude, im on floyd v5 android 10 works fine like a stock rom on s7. So basin on your point, you suppose s21ultra hwc should all work on s7? Really. you r really funny. You cant have all for it. S21ultra hardware vs s7 hardware. Really? All that matter is one ui 3x android r on your s7 thats all. The rest is limited for the device to work around with it
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Look dude, im on floyd v5 android 10 works fine like a stock rom on s7. So basin on your point, you suppose s21ultra hwc should all work on s7? Really. you r really funny. You cant have all for it. S21ultra hardware vs s7 hardware. Really? All that matter is one ui 3x android r on your s7 thats all. The rest is limited for the device to work around with it
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What's the point of having OneUI 3 if you're missing essential features ?
Do you fingerprint scanner works in third-party applications like PayPal ? Nope.
And no amount of stupid smiley will change this simple fact.
And this is juste one of the many issues in Floyd, see here: https://github.com/ananjaser1211/FloydQ_Reports/issues
mooms said:
What's the point of having OneUI 3 if you're missing essential features ?
Do you fingerprint scanner works in third-party applications like PayPal ? Nope.
And no amount of stupid smiley will change this simple fact.
And this is juste one of the many issues in Floyd, see here: https://github.com/ananjaser1211/FloydQ_Reports/issues
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Dude nobody cares for your PayPal and fingerprint. If it doesn't work out for you, someone prefer the rom to be working on s7. If One ui1000 is gonna come, s7 is gonna run well on it and even you will be the first person to download it. Talking boy,so keep yourself steady and watch it how things go.
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Dude nobody cares for your PayPal and fingerprint. If it doesn't work out for you, someone prefer the rom to be working on s7. If One ui1000 is gonna come, s7 is gonna run well on it and even you will be the first person to download it. Talking boy,so keep yourself steady and watch it how things go.
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Children want the latest version, adults want a fully functional phone, and not having the FP sensor working in 3rd party apps is a deal breaker for a lot of people, it's a pity you can't understand that.
mooms said:
Childs want the latest version, adults want a fully functional phone, and not having the FP sensor working in 3rd party apps is a deal breaker for a lot of people, it's a pity you can't understand that.
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Dude, this is a custom rom. And when did your s7 got and official system update and what was it android version. If you were about to loose your eyes and you got saved and now, only one of your eye is working, manager to live with it son. Else you can by yourself s100ultra with your fully function or what ever dude. Learn up child.
mooms said:
Children want the latest version, adults want a fully functional phone, and not having the FP sensor working in 3rd party apps is a deal breaker for a lot of people, it's a pity you can't understand that.
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It is known that Android OS is based on a modified version of the Linux Kernel to support mobile phones and tablets and other Android-capable devices, and it is also well-known that when OEMs release a new device, they begin their first state of dropping software support for their previous device.
Custom ROMs are Android ROMs made be either a solo developer, or core developers (and maybe even by you) out of passion, and thus completely free, they can extend it with as many features as the device can handle, in addition to the latest OS and security patches.
Sometimes, a developer might face a hard time trying to fix a bug, it might take months to fix, he might even decide to live with it, why? because he's doing this out of passion! Here on XDA, ROMs are posted along with it's sources, if you think the developer is a low-level programmer, you're free to show us your abilities.
Custom ROMs were not meant to be ultra-stable out-of-the-box, they were meant to witness it's own development.
I want one ui 3 too because of it's ui design
Look be happy with floyd Q no one is going to be spending time trying to port and then fix a one ui 3.0 base for the S7 devs like ananjaser are not going to try to fix one ui 3.0 alot of work would be needed anyway
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What's the point of having OneUI 3 if you're missing essential features ?
Do you fingerprint scanner works in third-party applications like PayPal ? Nope.
And no amount of stupid smiley will change this simple fact.
And this is juste one of the many issues in Floyd, see here: https://github.com/ananjaser1211/FloydQ_Reports/issues
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crdroid have fingerprint work in payment app bro
I've updated to a S20 FE.