Question Got S21fe but I'm not sure if it was a good choice - Samsung Galaxy S21 FE

Hi.
Just ordered S21fe 5g 256gb. With all the discounts and a 200£ trade in I paid £424 only. Which I consider a massive bargain. I traded in my old £0 value galaxy S6. Supper happy with the price.
Replacing my beloved s10e. I went for S21fe instead of s22 because of optical fingerprint reader instead of ultrasonic which allows me to use tempered glass on the screen and still be able to use the fp reader on S21fe. Also slightly bigger screen and bigger battery.
I just hope I won't regret my choice.
Any thoughts? Can anyone who already owns S21fe say whether they love it, hate it or have mixed relationships with it. Thanks

Hi!
As you, I had the S7 and then, the S10e.
2 weeks ago, I bought the S21 FE.... and I really love it!
I just miss the S10e's fingerprint! I find it more useful on the S10e !! When you grab the S10e, the fingerprint naturally falls under your thumb.... but except this, I prefer the S21 FE
I really don't understand why they don't place the fingerprint a few centimeters higher....

jbs68 said:
Hi!
As you, I had the S7 and then, the S10e.
2 weeks ago, I bought the S21 FE.... and I really love it!
I just miss the S10e's fingerprint! I find it more useful on the S10e !! When you grab the S10e, the fingerprint naturally falls under your thumb.... but except this, I prefer the S21 FE
I really don't understand why they don't place the fingerprint a few centimeters higher....
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Thanks for your reply.
And like you I think the fingerprint reader on the s10e is as good as it gets. The best possible placement.
I'm not a fan of in screen fingerprint readers at all but I guess it's something I'll need to get used to. All new phones have it for reasons unknown.

kierownikk said:
All new phones have it for reasons unknow
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yes, to do like everyone else...

kierownikk said:
Hi.
Just ordered S21fe 5g 256gb. With all the discounts and a 200£ trade in I paid £424 only. Which I consider a massive bargain. I traded in my old £0 value galaxy S6. Supper happy with the price.
Replacing my beloved s10e. I went for S21fe instead of s22 because of optical fingerprint reader instead of ultrasonic which allows me to use tempered glass on the screen and still be able to use the fp reader on S21fe. Also slightly bigger screen and bigger battery.
I just hope I won't regret my choice.
Any thoughts? Can anyone who already owns S21fe say whether they love it, hate it or have mixed relationships with it. Thanks
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It depends on what you look for in a phone nowadays.
I personally hate the 3X telephoto. It's slow, blurry and feels like it belongs in the year 2015. It's really sad because there are older phones out there that outperform it. But this might be Samsung's camera software. If I use GCam It's way better, but GCam is really unstable with the S21 FE Snap.
I love everything else about it: price, size, UI, flat screen with no curves, weight, color, look, performance and especially video mode. It has really smooth transition between lenses when filming, and white balance is well calibrated for all of them. I've been through a few phones lately and watched a ton of reviews but came to the conclusion that this is the best bang for the buck right now. The alternatives are chinese phones with poor software and poor updates or Iphone but I'm too scared to change the ecosystem ).

Randi03 said:
It depends on what you look for in a phone nowadays.
I personally hate the 3X telephoto. It's slow, blurry and feels like it belongs in the year 2015. It's really sad because there are older phones out there that outperform it. But this might be Samsung's camera software. If I use GCam It's way better, but GCam is really unstable with the S21 FE Snap.
I love everything else about it: price, size, UI, flat screen with no curves, weight, color, look, performance and especially video mode. It has really smooth transition between lenses when filming, and white balance is well calibrated for all of them. I've been through a few phones lately and watched a ton of reviews but came to the conclusion that this is the best bang for the buck right now. The alternatives are chinese phones with poor software and poor updates or Iphone but I'm too scared to change the ecosystem ).
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I've read about the telephoto camera issues which I hope will improve with software updates.
Everything else you mentioned is basically my kind of thing. Reasonable size, flat screen, performance, UI. It's all great. And I was considering different options, like Pixel 6 but it only comes with 128gb and apparently is buggy like hell. Also different Chinese options but like you I'm not only used to samsung's ecosystem but I also think it's the best best out there. And with good lock it's so customizable. I love it. I really wanted to go for S22 or even S22+ but my OCD would not allow me to buy it knowing that I won't be able to slap a piece of protective glass onto the screen because of the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. So S21fe it is I'm just hoping I get the Snapdragon version. I was trying to find some info whether it's a snapdragon or exynos in UK but couldn't find any confirmation. Apparently it's snapdragon but can also be exynos XD

kierownikk said:
I've read about the telephoto camera issues which I hope will improve with software updates.
Everything else you mentioned is basically my kind of thing. Reasonable size, flat screen, performance, UI. It's all great. And I was considering different options, like Pixel 6 but it only comes with 128gb and apparently is buggy like hell. Also different Chinese options but like you I'm not only used to samsung's ecosystem but I also think it's the best best out there. And with good lock it's so customizable. I love it. I really wanted to go for S22 or even S22+ but my OCD would not allow me to buy it knowing that I won't be able to slap a piece of protective glass onto the screen because of the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. So S21fe it is I'm just hoping I get the Snapdragon version. I was trying to find some info whether it's a snapdragon or exynos in UK but couldn't find any confirmation. Apparently it's snapdragon but can also be exynos XD
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Yeah, at least be sure you get a Snapdragon and everything should be perfectly fine.
Personally I'm now waiting for the S22 FE to see what's new. Changing phones is always a hard choice because usually I'm thinking that if my phone has an issue that I don't like, I can just buy a new one that doesn't have the same issue and I will be happy. But what actually happens is, I spend money on a new device, and although my initial problem is solved, I find ten other issues I hate. And it's like I'm starting this never ending journey of buying and testing phones which is stressful. And then I come to the conclusion that I should've kept the initial phone with it's silly issue. It's like breaking up with the love of your life for one stupid mistake and hooking up with another women that drives you insane. You end up regretting it )))

Randi03 said:
Yeah, at least be sure you get a Snapdragon and everything should be perfectly fine.
Personally I'm now waiting for the S22 FE to see what's new. Changing phones is always a hard choice because usually I'm thinking that if my phone has an issue that I don't like, I can just buy a new one that doesn't have the same issue and I will be happy. But what actually happens is, I spend money on a new device, and although my initial problem is solved, I find ten other issues I hate. And it's like I'm starting this never ending journey of buying and testing phones which is stressful. And then I come to the conclusion that I should've kept the initial phone with it's silly issue. It's like breaking up with the love of your life for one stupid mistake and hooking up with another women that drives you insane. You end up regretting it )))
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Haha I know exactly what you mean. That's how I feel breaking up with my S10e. Absolutely the best phone samsung has ever made imo. But it's getting old battery needs charging twice a day now. So new phone is needed but I really feel, well I know for sure that I'm going to miss that device.

Dammit it looks like it's going to be an exynos version. That totally just put me off. I'm now leaning towards keeping the s10e and returning the S21fe when it arrives today.
Shame but it is what it is.

Oh, sorry to hear that... If the S21 FE is an Exynos in your region this could mean that the regular S21 might be Snapdragon. I guess you could try that. I wanted to,but couldn't because in my region it's the exact opposite )

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Oh, sorry to hear that... If the S21 FE is an Exynos in your region this could mean that the regular S21 might be Snapdragon. I guess you could try that. I wanted to,but couldn't because in my region it's the exact opposite )
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Unfortunately S21 is also exynos. Every samsung phone in UK is exynos. Balls
I watched a few comparison videos and I feel like that Exynos 2100 isn't all that bad really.

I couldn't say they are bad but I'm more interested in the camera quality and Exynos are notorious for having washed out images and videos with a lot of noise reduction applied. Also, one big difference is the constant performance of the processor. Snapdragon can keep up with the same task without loosing too much performance but Exynos cannot. Also, the fact that Samsung sells phones with the same name but with a totally different processor is also bugging me. If you are not that concerned about cameras then I guess the Exynos might be fine also.
I think this guy sums it best:

Randi03 said:
I couldn't say they are bad but I'm more interested in the camera quality and Exynos are notorious for having washed out images and videos with a lot of noise reduction applied. Also, one big difference is the constant performance of the processor. Snapdragon can keep up with the same task without loosing too much performance but Exynos cannot. Also, the fact that Samsung sells phones with the same name but with a totally different processor is also bugging me. If you are not that concerned about cameras then I guess the Exynos might be fine also.
I think this guy sums it best:
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I don't play games on my phone so I'm not worried about heat or "constant performance" as it won't really affect me. And if I play any games they're usually non demanding puzzle kind of games so that's fine.
As for the photos yes I've seen some tests and exynos does slightly worse job when it comes to processing which is a bit annoying. Especially that in UK the exynos 256gb version is more expensive than snapdragon version in the US. £749 vs $749. 1:1 UK works out more expensive.
But I'm actually leaning towards keeping it anyway. For the price that I paid I can't really complain. £424 is almost half price so I think I can live with Exynos
It just arrived and is charging before I start transfering all my stuff from the S10e. Unfortunately this will be either later this evening or tomorrow morning because I'm on my way to work now. Either way I hope I won't be disappointed.

1 day with S21fe... I'm quite impressed. Apart from the fingerprint reader which will take time to get used to i don't have anything to complain about really. Screen size is great. Phone is fast and really nice to use.
So far so good.

Ha ha! As I anyway told you

Good for you happy to hear that, I hope you enjoy it until something better comes along.

I got my snapdragon s21 fe 2 weeks ago. It's a fantastic phone. Got it for 500 bucks with the galaxy watch 4 44mm included. Great game performance, fantastic main and uw cam. Dolby atmos and the 120hz amoled provide a fantastic media experience. One ui 4.1 is very intuitive and a welcome change after having a xiaomi phone. The only 2 gripes I have are the battery and the android 12 restrictions. The battery is average in everyday casual use, but intensive games drain it a bit too fast for my liking. And the android folder restrictions in android 12 are preventing me from modding games.

jbs68 said:
Ha ha! As I anyway told you
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Yeah you did haha. Thanks!
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Good for you happy to hear that, I hope you enjoy it until something better comes along.
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I'll probably keep it for at least 2 years which I always do with my every phone. Had s10e for 2.5yrs.
So 2 years is definitely enough time for something better to come out

I finally found a file manager that bypasses folder restrictions on this phone. It's called MT manager

Did you tried Total Commander?

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Galaxy S9 (Exynos) or OnePlus 6T?

Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
It really just depends on you. You want a better camera, IP68, no notch, headphone jack, much better speakers, better screen, a fingerprint scanner that actually works or maybe Samsung pay you get the S9. Since you've used an S8 already you already know what you're getting with TouchWiz so if you want a better software experience and value performance over all else than the 6T is your phone. But I'd honestly wait a bit before deciding since there have been a couple controversies surrounding the 6Ts touch latency
S9 6T
S9 the perfect phone.
6T the perfect gamer
I'd rather go with the SGS9 Exynos variant but that is just me. As I have heard nothing but bad things with regards to Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
James160103 said:
Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I have the s9+ and I would say don't get either. Get the s9 snapdragon 845. I have the Exynos 9810 it isn't good.
The Exynos 9810 has such bad optimization it literally performs like last year's snapdragon 835. Geekbench doesnt truly reflect the peformance since in every other benchmark it peforms worse than the 845 and in real life.
A lot of people on XDA on the screen on time section of real life review are getting below 5 hours of SOT with the regular s9 with the exynos 9810 that's how bad it is. I have the s9+ I have gotten over 7hrs but with a lot of changes and making sure to monitor apps. It isn't fun. People with the snapdragon equipped s9 are getting really good battery life that is even as good as the s9+ Exynos.
The One plus 6t has no headphone jack and it's cameras sensor size is only 1.22um compared to even the s7,s8, s9 which have been 1.4um for a while now. Software can only take you so far. 6T is a nice phone but it isn't an upgrade in terms of screen, camera, audio. The software and the 845 are better and even the battery is good. But it doesn't out weigh it's over faults.
If the Camera and screen and no headphone jack isn't important to you then get the 6T. Otherwise find a way to import the snapdragon 845 equipped s9.
if you care about the camera and edge screen and you like touch wiz then go with the 9 ( the battery is poor i am getting 1:46- screen on time) from 7 the morning until 2 o'clock the noon 40 percent left ) the max screen on time I got is 3:24
if you care about speed, battery, new technology like the fingerprint in the display if want stock android then go with the op6t
ps for whatever reason my s9 is lagging sometimes with normal use like opening the camera on unlocking it with fingerprint sometimes the text of lock screen stays for a few minutes
elliott2456 said:
I have the s9+ and I would say don't get either. Get the s9 snapdragon 845. I have the Exynos 9810 it isn't good.
The Exynos 9810 has such bad optimization it literally performs like last year's snapdragon 835. Geekbench doesnt truly reflect the peformance since in every other benchmark it peforms worse than the 845 and in real life.
A lot of people on XDA on the screen on time section of real life review are getting below 5 hours of SOT with the regular s9 with the exynos 9810 that's how bad it is. I have the s9+ I have gotten over 7hrs but with a lot of changes and making sure to monitor apps. It isn't fun. People with the snapdragon equipped s9 are getting really good battery life that is even as good as the s9+ Exynos.
The One plus 6t has no headphone jack and it's cameras sensor size is only 1.22um compared to even the s7,s8, s9 which have been 1.4um for a while now. Software can only take you so far. 6T is a nice phone but it isn't an upgrade in terms of screen, camera, audio. The software and the 845 are better and even the battery is good. But it doesn't out weigh it's over faults.
If the Camera and screen and no headphone jack isn't important to you then get the 6T. Otherwise find a way to import the snapdragon 845 equipped s9.
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Thanks for your lengthy post! I agree, I would go for the Snapdragon if it was being sold here in Europe and had an unlockable boot loader. Not having the latter is a real deal breaker for me though.
I'm fine with TouchWiz but I want my phone to last for about 4 years which means installing a custom ROM later on.
I think I'll be getting the S9 now, thank you very much for your replies!
James160103 said:
Hello all, having a dilemma here: I'm selling my Galaxy S8 on eBay and am now looking for a new phone.
I did some research and then found the S9 and OP6T and now cannot make up my mind, I simply don't know which one to get.
There's no comparisons on the internet really, so I thought I'd just ask you!
I know the S9 wouldn't be worth the upgrade coming from the S8 if it wasn't for Treble support.
At least that's what I think.
So the S9 is actually cheaper than the 6T atm, but I still need to have a few opinions on which device to get.
Are you guys enjoying your S9 or would you rather have the OnePlus now that it's out?
Would you recommend the S9 if you'd be using it for the next 4 years?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I'd recommend you navigate in both forums and check how many complaints there are about every device. You'll certainly notice that Oneplus 6(T) forum is full of complaints of annoying bugs here and there about hardware and software.
I personally just returned to S9 for the third try of adopting an OP6... the S9 is just perfect and the stereo speakers are simply otherworldly ! The camera also is far far ahead.

Note 10+ vs S20 Ultra 5G

Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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Anyone thinking of switching? interested to read people's opinions on this. I'm very tempted because I get no service on Tmobile at work so hopefully 5g solves it..but I. I not convinced yet I guess il wait until presentation on Feb 11th.
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5G is still on hand 71 for T-mobile so if you have a Qualcomm US Note 10 plus and don't get service at work then 5G won't fix that issue yet.
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I was thinking of switching but then I saw the price.
So far only talk of Ultra 5g, if there is a Ultra without 5g and a lower price I'll consider it but right now as much as I want the camera I can't justify it 6 months after buying the N10+.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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If all the specs are true to current leaks then I will definitely upgrade from my Note 10+.I'm pretty stoked for a 16 gig 6.9 inch 120 hz. display and the 108mp. Camera combo.
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The only turn off is When enabling 120Hz, it will set the display resolution to FHD+ / 2400×1080. I might just wait until the new note since the utilize the spen alot
idk yet, I'm waiting for a definite info on the new 3D Max fp sensor if they'd add it to the S20 or not, that's the only thing I don't like on my N10+. Other things to consider is saying goodbye to the s pen which I like a lot.
As for 5G? - am ok with LTE for now since it'll take some time(years?) for 5G to get a full implementation everywhere, right now it's just a promise for which we have to pay extra 'up front'.
Another pressing question is about that 108 mp, specifically: how will the image processing handle all that load, I hope they will make people happy with the results.
So, if not the Ultra model, for the sake of saving some bucks, what's good the S20+ brings? Right, a new SoC, 120Mhz(most of us will probably switch back to 60) and better then N10+ cameras – is that enough to get rid of N10+ and additionally shed an extra $500 - $600 for the trade? Me thinks not.
For better pics I'd rather buy the new Sony A6100(~$600)
Definitely will get the S20 Ultra....keeping my Note 10+
yup, i'll definitely be getting it. had the s10+, note 10+, note 10+ (star wars edition) and now the ultra once released. I get bored rather easily and always want the new hotness. and since the pixels have been letting me down lately, my only guilty pleasure are the Samsung phones. I hope there's a ceramic version like the s10+.
I am definitely going to get it - can't wait to see what the camera can do. From what I have read, while it is a 108 mega pixel cameara, the S20 ultra will combine pixels (four pixels) to help improve how much light is going to come in - I don't understand the specific workings of it all - but in the end, it sounds like it is going to be amazing. Camera, Big Battery, Huge Screen, no Bezels, it sounds like it has everything youi might want in a SmartPhone. Just a few weeks away, I can't wait.
I also like to get the best of the best when they come out like @chetly968. Kind of "oooh, shiny, me want!" situation but I'm not completely room over by the leaked specs. I know that it's a good upgrade to the S10/+/e range and the Note 10 range but it's like what @mzsquared said, are the upgrades worth the extra cost you'll have after trading in the Note 10+ 5G.
I'm going to watch the event and see what they say. It's usually the case that all the new upgrades in the S range get to the Note anyway in addition to extra upgrades.
It's a matter of do you want to wait, how do you use your Note 10+, do you use the S-Pen, would the experience be the same if you get the S20.
I gravitate towards the top phone on the Note range when it's launched, primarily because the Note range have more of a square body rather than the rounded corners on the S range.
I guess we'll see what they have in store for us next week.
Nope not getting it , It's not a upgrade from Note10 Plus to a S20 , basically it's a downgrade, so i won't downgrade, I'll wait for the Note11 or Note20 what ever they will call it. So for now I'll stay on my Note10 Plus, Also the Note10 Plus will still be better till i get the Note11 or Note20.
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I feel like I have no reason to switch really.
It's not like getting a hopefully much better camera is going to launch me a photography career.
I really don't see any benifit when this phone is already fast, modern, and super adequate for life.
Save the money, go on a trip, cause having the latest phone is not a measurement of living life.
The performance gains will be minimal. I won't be upgrading.
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No S Pen, no S20.
I will wait Microsoft Surface Duo! This is a good hybrid and a serious competitor for fold and note series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trNMtfm3w7g&feature=emb_logo
Reserved S20+ anyway, now I have a few days to actually think about buying it for real, will see...
My reasoning starts with the trade value, Samsung offers $700 for my N10+, most of the Swappa's listing are right now in mid $600's(not to mention the involved hustle), sad, but that's the reality of a free market. Maybe I could settle down now with this S20+(5G though the 5G 'grid' has not been built yet around where I live)
It'll probably still suck with that same ultrasonic fp sensor I guess, am getting used to it on my N10+.
Definitely keeping my N10+ until the N20+ or whatever they call it. 120hz screen only at 1080p according to MKBHD. At least thats what he said in his video.
S20 looks ugly to me with those non curved edges, not a significant upgrade from Note 10 plus imo
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that huge battery may not be as impressive as it sounds when its got to power all that.
also...some reports say ultra has a true optical zoom of 4x and others say 5x...either way i do believe the 10x hybrid optical as they call it will be optical level...seems the further digital zoom will be more useful than it sounds as it appears to have good stabilisation.
they did mention in reveal yesterday that a lot of the software improvements mentioned will come to the s10+ in updates.
also...you could buy two 65" lg ultra hd hdr smart tv's with freeview and satellite tuner built in for the price of s20 ultra*[https://b-static]*...and still have change
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Sorry if this offends or seems controversial, but I can't help but surmise that people considering buying the S20 don't really need a 'Note' device anyway.
For me, in my daily life, the 'S Pen' is indispensable. No matter the features offered by any other device, without the 'S Pen', it's just not complete.
Signing and translating documents, editing media, and even typing, with my large stubby fingers, are much more efficient on a 'Note', resulting in higher productivity.
The S20/+/Ultra, whilst very good devices, on paper at least, just can't cut it for me.
So, no thanks, will wait for the Note 20?, but even then, it would probably need to incorporate all under screen sensors. So, maybe no update till the Note 21.

s20fe or pixel 5

I see that the s20fe has higher specs, likely to be updated about the same amount of time
It's pointing me hard to leave the pixel family and rejoin (infuse and note 3) the Samsung family.
Anyone have any input? I see that Samsung seems to have a few processor and support issues. Obviously we do not know what issues the pixel 5 will bring but with a known chipset I'm guessing few.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20-fe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5
Probably get better answers there, and probably once the devices are both out.
I left samsung for lack of timely updates years ago and went back to Samsung this year since they've fixed the updating policy. 5 I found a new s20 plus for just over 1/2 off, and the battery life has been insane compared to pixel 3.
_Dennis_ said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20-fe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5
Probably get better answers there, and probably once the devices are both out.
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Actually chose this forum on purpose since neither are out.
I own pixel devices so I'm really looking for the Samsung argument.
Thanks though.
You'd honestly probably get more bang for your buck with the S20 FE. The specs are better on the FE side and if software updates are an issue, Samsung just released recently that they're now supporting 3 years of android updates for their devices and I'm sure it'd apply to the FE.
Some specs to consider, the 120hz (FE) vs the 90hz (Pixel) may not seem that substantial but, in practice it can be noticeable. 25W Charging (FE) vs 18W (Pixel). 4500 mAh (FE) vs 4080 mAh (Pixel). SD865 (FE) vs SD765 (Pixel).
The biggest question for you to answer is, do you like stock ui or samsung one ui. Now, I will say samsung is feature enriched with the interface and you'll never be bored with your phone. I've been using the pre-beta one ui 3.0 on my galaxy and I'd like to think that it's actually nice. I've personally never been a fan of stock ui that pixels give but, again, that's my preference. Either way, both devices are solid.
I'm providing a spec sheet of the 2 for you to look at. Sorry it's a long stretched screenshot lmao, may have to save it or zoom in.
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You'd honestly probably get more bang for your buck with the S20 FE. The specs are better on the FE side and if software updates are an issue, Samsung just released recently that they're now supporting 3 years of android updates for their devices and I'm sure it'd apply to the FE.
Some specs to consider, the 120hz (FE) vs the 90hz (Pixel) may not seem that substantial but, in practice it can be noticeable. 25W Charging (FE) vs 18W (Pixel). 4500 mAh (FE) vs 4080 mAh (Pixel). SD865 (FE) vs SD765 (Pixel).
The biggest question for you to answer is, do you like stock ui or samsung one ui. Now, I will say samsung is feature enriched with the interface and you'll never be bored with your phone. I've been using the pre-beta one ui 3.0 on my galaxy and I'd like to think that it's actually nice. I've personally never been a fan of stock ui that pixels give but, again, that's my preference. Either way, both devices are solid.
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Thanks,
I actually suspect the p5 battery life to be similar due to the screen size I do agree the 20fe wins specs hands down.
My only gripe with pixel stock ui is the lack of a second notification volume slider.
I'm more concerned with things that I'm not aware of, such as "Samsung has wronged it's community""chipset bugs", broken promises, etc.
mrkhigh said:
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I actually suspect the p5 battery life to be similar due to the screen size I do agree the 20fe wins specs hands down.
My only gripe with pixel stock ui is the lack of a second notification volume slider.
I'm more concerned with things that I'm not aware of, such as "Samsung has wronged it's community""chipset bugs", broken promises, etc.
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I'd say their reliability has definitely upped within the past say 3 years. Before the galaxy s8 it was kind of a mess. Now, their phones are relatively solid. The FE is gonna be well rounded if anything, phones like my Galaxy S20 Ultra push limits and almost too far (the 108mp camera has horrible auto focus), to where they fix it in the next generation (Note 20 Ultra uses a different auto focus mechanism) but, with that being said, the FE seems to use what they know works and go from there. If anything, it's a slightly mellowed down S20 with a flat screen and the S20 is a good phone. I wouldn't worry too much about updates, they're working pretty quick on 11 for us and that speaks volumes.
The pixel 5 is a midrange spec phone selling at flagship price, i would never buy it unless its less than $300
loris100 said:
The pixel 5 is a midrange spec phone selling at flagship price, i would never buy it unless its less than $300
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P5 or p4a? I agree on the p4a being a $300 phone.
The p5 is maybe $100 more than I'd like to see. But the flagship price anymore is $.9-1.1k and the p5 is likely $700.
I'll definitely be waiting for black Friday/cyber Monday to make the decision.
Right now a $600 fe is tempting, but again I've dug myself pretty deep into the pixel brand and an unlocked bootloader is worth something too.
One of my big things would be if it's going to be possible to get either of these with unlocked bootloaders.
I feel like the pixels usually have a way of doing that, but not the samsungs. At least not the US Snapdragon ones, and since i'm on a CDMA carrier, i can't use any of the exynos variants. Now Verizon is switching to VOLTE end of the year, but it looks like the exynos phones won't have that either.. There are some articles about being able to enable VOLTE on some samsung devices from 2018 / 19, but until everything is launched and folks mess around.. who knows. I don't know that i'll buy another phone unless I can get custom roms. It's just a whole different world.

Question Oneplus 9, 9 Pro, S21+, or Ultra? Help me decide

Last week, I switched from a OnePlus 7 Pro to the Galaxy S21. I'm definitely taking my standard S21 back today because I think it's just too small for what I like. Plus, it randomly gets very hot for no reason. This occurs in safe mode as well, so I know it's not any of the apps I'm using. I'm having a hard time deciding whether to go with the 9, 9 Pro, S21+, or S21 Ultra. Of course, the Ultra is top of the line, but it's so big and heavy. I love the size and form factor of the OnePlus 9, but I don't like that it's not QHD. Plus, I've read and watched a lot of reviews that said the Hasselblad partnership seems to be mostly hype, and didn't really make the cameras that much better. That's the only issue I've had with all of my OnePlus devices since the 6. I'm not a crazy camera user, but I do like to get a great photo now and again. A friend of mine said he tried the S21 Ultra, but it didn't really fit well in his front pocket, especially when sitting down. I worry that that would drive me insane.
Depends, do you care about modding or do you just like a phone that takes better pics?
I went with the S21 Ultra and I couldn't be happier.
I was trying to decide between S21 Ultra and 9 Pro and made myself a pro/con spreadsheet (which I've since deleted). For me, the 9 Pro won by like 50% more points so it turned out to be a clear choice. If you don't plan to root or mod, and you don't mind Samsung's bloated OneUI, the score might be closer.
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I was trying to decide between S21 Ultra and 9 Pro and made myself a pro/con spreadsheet (which I've since deleted). For me, the 9 Pro won by like 50% more points so it turned out to be a clear choice. If you don't plan to root or mod, and you don't mind Samsung's bloated OneUI, the score might be closer.
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you can root/mod the exynos s21 ultra
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you can root/mod the exynos s21 ultra
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Interesting. I don't know where the OP is located, but I don't think I can buy that version in the US.
I don't have any reason for root with my S21 Ultra. My only reasons for rooting before were for Viper4android and Adaway. Samsung has amazing audio controls and I'm using Blockada for ad blocking.
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Interesting. I don't know where the OP is located, but I don't think I can buy that version in the US.
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I have both and honestly I think the Samsung is the better option this year
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I have both and honestly I think the Samsung is the better option this year
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I have both also. I know I want to keep the OP9 Pro. Right now I'm still within the 30 day return window for the S21 Ultra and testing it against my older Note10+ to see if the Ultra is worth the investment since I have these others.
Audio-wise, I think the S21 Ultra is the best. I have a lot of high end headphones/dacs/amps and I always use my phone as the source (thank you V4A).
I have both myself, the only real reason I got the 9 Pro was the ease of unlocking the bootloader and rooting convenience. I used the S21 Ultra since release and really didn't "need" root, themes readily available, audio is on point. the only real gripe I had was I didn't think battery was all it could be and without root access to the system I was having a hard time solving that. Not that it was bad... Just not what I thought it should have been. With the 9 Pro it started off the same way, but the ability to manipulate various values in the system has yielded a pretty decent days worth of juice. With all that said, my opinion is the S21 Ultra is by far a superior device in just about all aspects, but the 9 Pro is just plain FUN.
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Interesting. I don't know where the OP is located, but I don't think I can buy that version in the US.
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It's a global version, but its slower htan the snapdragon
I said this on another thread I think but over recent years I have preferred almost everything with a OnePlus over the equivalent Samsung or Pixel and it was only key features like no wireless charging a slightly sub-par camera and maybe no always on display that saw me ultimatewly choose a samsung or Pixel.
This year it is almost the opposite in that I think I prefer pretty much everything about the S21 Ultra over the 9 Pro, I'd even say that Samsung feels just as fast or faster this year. In terms of things in favour of the 9 pro whilst I think the S21 camera is better overall the Oneplus is better I think for pictures of pet, kids etc where Samsung still blurs often (long-time Samsung achiles heel) and if you pushed me I'd still probably give Oxygen OS the edge over OneUi but that one is far closer than it has been before other than no aptx-hd that is it really.
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I said this on another thread I think but over recent years I have preferred almost everything with a OnePlus over the equivalent Samsung or Pixel and it was only key features like no wireless charging a slightly sub-par camera and maybe no always on display that saw me ultimatewly choose a samsung or Pixel.
This year it is almost the opposite in that I think I prefer pretty much everything about the S21 Ultra over the 9 Pro, I'd even say that Samsung feels just as fast or faster this year. In terms of things in favour of the 9 pro whilst I think the S21 camera is better overall the Oneplus is better I think for pictures of pet, kids etc where Samsung still blurs often (long-time Samsung achiles heel) and if you pushed me I'd still probably give Oxygen OS the edge over OneUi but that one is far closer than it has been before other than no aptx-hd that is it really.
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Which has no aptx-hd
vibrantliker said:
Which has no aptx-hd
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Oneplus has APTX-HD Samsung does not.
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Oneplus has APTX-HD Samsung does not.
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Interesting, I was testing which phones sound better with my higher end system, comparing the Note 10+, S21 Ultra and the OP9 Pro. The OP9 Pro does sound better with Bluetooth but the other 2 sound better using a USB connection going into my dac. I would say the S21 Ultra edges out best this way (wired), audio-quality wise.
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Oneplus has APTX-HD Samsung does not.
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This is just crazy to think. Why not the standard in high def bluetooth sound? Just....what? I also prefer the way games are played on the oneplus which is a huge priority. I love the haptic feedback on what just happen to be my two favorite games. I take about one picture a week so the camera isn't a thing for me but it's nice that oneplus has made a competent one for the last two generations. I love no bloat too. It's all the little things during daily use. I wish it had something like dex but I would rarely use it with my new job like I used to. And I love the rapid wireless charging. My z fold 2 will take over two hours to charge wirelessly from zero. The 50w charger has come in handy so many times. I have had the s21 sitting in my cart at Amazon for over a week now, lol. Trying to resist the temptation.
I do also wish the FPS stayed on the AOD like it does on a Samsung, that is a nice feature.
If it has no card slot I won't even consider it it no matter how good the form factor is.
Need my bloody data drive.
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If it has no card slot I won't even consider it it no matter how good the form factor is.
Need my bloody data drive.
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I went from a 500gb card slot on my note 8 to a oneplus 256gb and it doesn't really bother me, if I have something bigger than that I use a usb c otg cable and break out my portable 1tb ssd

Question So... Who's as excited as I am for this ?

This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
For me :
1- YESSSSSS!!!!!!! (see the title)
2- I'd love to, I'll wait though. I want to see the firsts feedbacks before buying one.
3- To me, the whitechapel SoC really picked my interest a lot. It will either be a deception or a big nice surprise, don't disappoint me Google!
Yes, sort of.
Maybe. I have the Pixel 5: a meh phone, with useless VZ 5G so I turned it off. The only things I'm happy with are battery life, weight/portability, and that I didn't upgrade my plan to a 5G plan.
New in-house chip. I'm not holding my breath on "new and improved" because Google tends to let everyone down prior to announcement, so I'm expecting the same here.
Edit: To be fair, I flipped flopped on buying the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra for the camera. What keeps me with Pixel is their call screening. There's been so many of them, the call screening is the best.
I'm buying it the second it's ready!
I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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We can atleast have GCam on other 8mp periscopic phones to get a similar output like GP6 pro. Hence wanted Google to have its in-house sensor or atleast get one from other sensor makers specifically for GP6 pro. PS: those other phone can atleast have GCam and I didn't ignore this.
I'm gonna buy it as soon as I can. I am still running my Pixel 2XL.
1- Yes, finally the Pixel phone we were waiting for.... Hopefully
2- Day One
3- Combination of the Whitechapel SOC and Camera setup. Still not the same amount as the 21 Ultra, one thing Google knows is how to get the best out of hardware they go with. We are talking about the potential capability of iPhone structure but with more modern tech throughout the phone.
I'm very excited as I am for most Pixel releases. I am buying the second it becomes available. I'm afraid if I wait, with the chip shortage, I might miss out if I don't act fast. I am really excited about the new chip and, hopefully, tight integration between software and hardware. I am also really excited for the triple camera setup. Between the nearly 1" sensor, higher resolution and Googles image processing software I am fully expecting them to retake the photo crown back from Apple.
I would like to see eSIM availability on day one. One National carrier, and eSIM for spare carrier/international travel. I sold my Samsung S21+ Unlocked because I couldn’t activate an eSIM!
I have currently a Oneplus 8 Pro. Camera is very average, with Android 11 they moved further away from stock Android, Updates come very slow now that there are newer Oneplus devices (had november security patch until mid february, then we got january patch instead of february...)...
I am so excited for Pixel 6 Pro, as this phone is finally a pixel phone that seems to make no compromises:
Tripple cam
Big Battery
120 hz
Great performance chip (not a hardcote gamer, so must not be top notch for me)
New camera senors...!
I think Pixel 6 Pro will crush it this year.. looks like a S21 Ultra with clean Android.. !! Nice!
But i guess the price tag will be huge, around S21 Ultra launch price (maybe just a little less)
I'm not excited. Mainly because ever since I bought the Pixel 1 and loved it, and used it until a year ago when I got a 512 GB Samsung, I was anticipating getting a 256 GB Pixel as my next upgrade once one was available. I waited four years and now, though, I wouldn't upgrade to another Pixel unless it had 512 GB of internal storage (or have a Micro SD slot, which won't happen with the Pixel). I like my music local and in FLAC, and have my entire library with me. I'm happy that they've finally decided to have 256 GB of storage as an option, but that just won't cut it for me anymore.
I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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True, while the gap is closing, there is still a gap. That's really not my main holdup, it's getting root without losing too many features.
Google has been tightening the reins on Android for years. Hopefully we will get full root access without many sacrifices, just need to wait and see
The last google phone I purchased was the Nexus 4 at release, then later I got a Nexus 9. The Pixel series has never interested me, especially design wise. If the P6P's renders are accurate it'll be my 1st google device in years.
I've been running Samsung devices the past few years because no Pixel hardware has really impressed me since the 2XL. The software has been great but hardware has been lacking. I desperately want to get back on the Pixel bandwagon and if all these leaks turn out to be accurate this will finally be the phone that does it! I'll be trading in my Note Ultra 20 on it. Wish we didn't have to wait til late September or October.
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen though.
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This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
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1. I'm stoked. Haven't been this excited for a Google device since the Galaxy Nexus w/Ice Cream Sandwich, though the Nexus 5 leak accompanied by KitKat ranks up there.
2. I plan on F5'ing the Google Store repeatedly as soon as the presentation starts, so yeah.
3. Whitechapel and, Material You (biggest software overhaul since 4.4). Also it seems like Google gives a darn about hardware now.
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Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen.
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With u on this

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