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Do you know when we can expect a ROM based on Android O?
Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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One of the Developer's for PA is also one of the 30 teams members of nextbit.
There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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Except those are all fake. The LOS maintainers won't actually know if a device will support LOS 15 until they actually try porting it in the first place. As of now, they haven't tried for the Nextbit Robin yet, so we don't know if the Robin could actually get LOS 15 yet.
If you wanna keep tabs on what devices are currently being worked on, go to https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/statuspen and look for anything being commited to the lineageos-15.0 branch for android_device_nextbit_ether.
Software updates till February as they say on Twitter. Apart from nextbits cloud framework the OS is pretty much stock AOSP and it seems to me they're really good with releasing kernel source and providing updates almost every three months.
Robin, on N, is a mess. If it does eventually get O, it will be a while. We cannot upgrade it to O until we fix out the bugs we have on N first.
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
DarkExistence said:
Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
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I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
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I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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My apologies if I seemed aggressive. Official development seems to be like any other manufacturer, however, as we all know, software support is ending soon. I've been following Gerrit and have noticed the ongoing development by our developers (including you). IIRC camera was borked on one of the nightlies, but was immediately fixed. IMO, we are now depending on development from our ether devs rather than official support since Nextbit have been ghosting for the past few months.
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Keep in mind what DarkExistence said, and realize the Robin's closest equivalent is a Nexus 5. If you can get better & newer hardware for a little more money, do so. I got mine as an "emergency" replacement when I was short on funds a few months ago. I lucked into an eBay sale & discount code which brought the phone to about 100.00. I'm happy with it, but I wish Razer would have made good sources available & gave full permission for them to be hosted elsewhere. So the devs didn't get so frustrated with what should be a decent phone to run custom ROMs on.
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Yes, for $130 it's worth buying. The bugs on android N are not nearly as bad as what some claim them to be.
Here's as list of what I can recall:
1. Enhance colors distorts colors (so turn it off)
2. Screen static displays when unlocking phone for 1/10th of a second with some roms
3. You can hear The Speakers turn off after sound has stopped playing if You listen closely
4. Headphones with a mic sometimes cut out and play through internal Speakers although there is as work around for this
5. Audio fx does not work
Other than any of those there is not much i can personally complain about and I own 2 robins. About to get a moto g4 plus because it's time for something that has a larger XDA fourm and something that has been confirmed to get android O (wich nextbit has yet to announce a decision to besides "we have been discussing it").
If I were You and my budget was under $200 i'd get The robin.
If You can spend $225 get The g4 plus without a doubt. Hope this helps
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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I like it, especially for the price. Currently using CarbonROM rooted with Magisk. Just realize you're getting a phone with zero support from the manufacturer, so don't spend more than you're willing to lose.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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Well thank you for being the maintainer on Ether. I just ordered the phone. 129.00 for a phone with these specs. Couldn't pass it up. I'm sure you will eventually make AICP stable. Thank you for your honesty.
Hi guys. I was surfing in GitHub when i found this: https:// github. com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sagit-n-oss?files=1
Kernel source of mi6 was release 11 hours ago!
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Hi guys. I was surfing in GitHub when i found this: https:// github. com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sagit-n-oss?files=1
Kernel source of mi6 was release 11 hours ago!
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good news., i hope someone make android one Custom rom for mi6 from miA1
Great news
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Kernel: Xiaomi kernel changes for Xiaomi 6 and MIX 2
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sagit-n-oss
gj
1 step closer to better Oreo roms?
very low attention of development community, looks like I made a bad purchase of mi 6!
UnNaMeD__ said:
very low attention of development community, looks like I made a bad purchase of mi 6!
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Not sure what you mean... It's pretty good support here.
Sell and get a OnePlus or something more mainstream if you don't like it.
Or the tools are available for you to build your own ROMs.
XDA is here for sharing work.
You also could have checked here before buying.
No one is entitled to third party software support and we are lucky to have so many devs working on the device.
As it gets cheaper more devs will buy as well. Mi 6 is good hardware but devs can't own every device at release price.
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Not sure what you mean... It's pretty good support here.
Sell and get a OnePlus or something more mainstream if you don't like it.
Or the tools are available for you to build your own ROMs.
XDA is here for sharing work.
You also could have checked here before buying.
No one is entitled to third party software support and we are lucky to have so many devs working on the device.
As it gets cheaper more devs will buy as well. Mi 6 is good hardware but devs can't own every device at release price.
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Not sure I changed a theme and was not able to change back to default. I posted on MIUI's forum and asked for help but only one reply which didn't helped. Other questions went unanswered too. But haven't tried on xda though. I didn't liked the fact that camera api2 is not enabled by xiaomi and you know what? I learned from MIUI forum that our notification LED is RGB but is limited to white color only by xiaomi.
Oneplus is not available in my country and even if Xiaomi gets any defect, no one is gonna repair because its fairly new here and almost everyone sees my phone doesn't know Xiaomi exists. Btw once I tried to build ROM when I had Mediatek phone and oh boi, it took forever for small modifications, learning will take long time and I don't have time for it, so no I will depend on others haha. And I hope as it gets older, more ROMs will be available, hope more like stock with less bugs, stock always have more customization from xposed.
I want to buy a fone. Any suggestions how much time to recieve custom roms....
dont ask for ETA, I also ordered one Honor 7x too
When a phone is brand new with absolutely NO Roms out yet I'm pretty sure the whole "Don't ask for ETAs" rule doesn't count. Relax. Please be honest with yourself.
This device will only do good (For some people) if it gains dev support. Kirin is closed source from what I understand so development sucks when compared to Honor/Huawei devices with SD chips so inquiring minds will want to know.
I'm ready for an upgrade from my Honor 5X myself but can't pull trigger due to lack of support for 6X or 7X. Honor is good about updates but I need more control over my device (Root, hotspot, and Roms) past the 2 year update standard. I would go to xaiomi redmi unlocked but their US device lacks 1 of the LTE bands I need on AT&T.
Plus I actually really love my Honor 5x device and respect the company for their attempts to make affordable higher end device and come to XDA with so much support on launch of company. I won't for get that but I still need a device soon.
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When a phone is brand new with absolutely NO Roms out yet I'm pretty sure the whole "Don't ask for ETAs" rule doesn't count. Relax. Please be honest with yourself.
This device will only do good (For some people) if it gains dev support. Kirin is closed source from what I understand so development sucks when compared to Honor/Huawei devices with SD chips so inquiring minds will want to know.
I'm ready for an upgrade from my Honor 5X myself but can't pull trigger due to lack of support for 6X or 7X. Honor is good about updates but I need more control over my device (Root, hotspot, and Roms) past the 2 year update standard. I would go to xaiomi redmi unlocked but their US device lacks 1 of the LTE bands I need on AT&T.
Plus I actually really love my Honor 5x device and respect the company for their attempts to make affordable higher end device and come to XDA with so much support on launch of company. I won't for get that but I still need a device soon.
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I mean, there's OpenKirin, not sure about this being closed source with kernel sources already released. It depends on which skilled dev feels like picking up this device.
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If someone can get a 7X in my hands, I could.
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If someone can get a 7X in my hands, I could.
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Hahaha I can't send you mine unfortunately
I can confirm that this device is going to be officially supported by OpenKirin as soon as we can get a stable rom running on it.
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I mean, there's OpenKirin, not sure about this being closed source with kernel sources already released. It depends on which skilled dev feels like picking up this device.
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swaim7 said:
I want to buy a fone. Any suggestions how much time to recieve custom roms....
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you can always learn to start building roms :silly:
hold your horses, there will be development..
I can build a Rom or rooted rom with Mods from Stockrom for L21C,i have more Roms builded for Honor Note 8,but i need the Full Firmware Package from L21C to build it.But at the Moment is no Full Firmware to download.
OpenKirin team got the phone, so yeah custom ROMs are on the way
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OpenKirin team got the phone, so yeah custom ROMs are on the way
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How do you know all this stuff??
Jan.Pul said:
How do you know all this stuff??
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They've announced it in a thread (OldDroid to be specific)
My advice to the one who checks Xda before deciding to buy a mobile should never consider buying from Vivo/Iqoo(only if you don't care 'bout modding). There is no hope of development for the brand who choose the path of not giving the bootloader unlock option and not sharing the kernel.
Not every OS is perfect, even the famous Oxygen OS is not perfect that why there is lots of tweaks and mods developed for them. So, its a dead end road for Iqoo. I too was a OnePlus user but because of there pricing in the later phone i look for a little cheaper phone with a good hardware and i am stuck on Iqoo....... In short, if you love modding, Magisk etc. then never think of Iqoo/Vivo
Even the Xda community should better consider of not giving a chance of opening a forum simply because its a waste of resource for those that doesn't have a bootloader unlock options and kernel release
My poco is dead and i am seriously considering this device because ( I too was an OnePlus user but because of there pricing in the later phone i look for a little cheaper phone with a good hardware ). now i dont know what to buy.
Do you have any suggestions for me?
Depend on users need and requirement. So, hard to say what you are into.
karige said:
My advice to the one who checks Xda before deciding to buy a mobile should never consider buying from Vivo/Iqoo(only if you don't care 'bout modding). There is no hope of development for the brand who choose the path of not giving the bootloader unlock option and not sharing the kernel.
Not every OS is perfect, even the famous Oxygen OS is not perfect that why there is lots of tweaks and mods developed for them. So, its a dead end road for Iqoo. I too was a OnePlus user but because of there pricing in the later phone i look for a little cheaper phone with a good hardware and i am stuck on Iqoo....... In short, if you love modding, Magisk etc. then never think of Iqoo/Vivo
Even the Xda community should better consider of not giving a chance of opening a forum simply because its a waste of resource for those that doesn't have a bootloader unlock options and kernel release
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agreed.. i too was going to buy this.. and was searching for some community developed roms.. shocked to find such a powerful device with great potential have it's bootloader locked... i went with realme x2 pro.. the development is not that great.. but it's there atleast.
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agreed.. i too was going to buy this.. and was searching for some community developed roms.. shocked to find such a powerful device with great potential have it's bootloader locked... i went with realme x2 pro.. the development is not that great.. but it's there atleast.
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Good choice to have Realme X2 Pro
karige said:
My advice to the one who checks Xda before deciding to buy a mobile should never consider buying from Vivo/Iqoo(only if you don't care 'bout modding). There is no hope of development for the brand who choose the path of not giving the bootloader unlock option and not sharing the kernel.
Not every OS is perfect, even the famous Oxygen OS is not perfect that why there is lots of tweaks and mods developed for them. So, its a dead end road for Iqoo. I too was a OnePlus user but because of there pricing in the later phone i look for a little cheaper phone with a good hardware and i am stuck on Iqoo....... In short, if you love modding, Magisk etc. then never think of Iqoo/Vivo
Even the Xda community should better consider of not giving a chance of opening a forum simply because its a waste of resource for those that doesn't have a bootloader unlock options and kernel release
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Thank you for your advice!
I was thinking in buy Iqoo neo 5, but after found your post totally changed my mind.
So I will search for other device, maybe redmi k40 or wait for release of Oneplus 9.
Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
CrDroid, Pixel Experience and Ressurection Remix.
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
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MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
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If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
VD171 said:
If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
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hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
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hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
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Probably you must to buy an iphone.
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Probably you must to buy an iphone.
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I kind of hate apple Locked crap. The system updates destroys the nice flagship, and if you do not update, they will greet you by not allowing you to install any app.
Samsung is nice for me, but if you hate Samsung, I have nothing to say.
VD171 said:
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
Communos said:
I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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The computer science of Xiaomi devs should be teached by their PE or Music teacher. Even DIY roms are better than MIUI.
That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
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Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
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Give ShapeshiftOS and FluidOS a try, new roms, Quite good.
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I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and talking that you love to stay on MIUI will be a waste of time.
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We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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There are thousands, if not millions, of people using custom roms on a Xiaomi phone and not a single one said their phones are hacked due to the custom rom. To say the least, Even MIUI is not close to being trusted as soon as you unlocked the bootloader.
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That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
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Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and persuading people to stay on MIUI crap will be a waste of time.
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Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
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Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
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Ok. We are off topic here. Stop the avalanche. If that hurts, I will delete it.
Communos said:
We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
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Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
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Custom roms are regularly updated, they have maintainers for specific devices who update the rom regularly, with security patches. Please do not speak of something which you don't know of.
Any more replies to this will be ignored, Since you clearly don't know what you're talking about and this is going OFF-TOPIC.