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Mi Max Nougat support

I had a brief look in the ROMs area, and it didn't seem that the MiMax has any currently released nougat ROMS. Will they be coming? What is the holdup-- they are not supplying source code, or...?
Curious, because I am thinking of buying one.
Anyone know of other comparably ludicrously large phones? I'm interested in devices over six inches....
Should I buy this phone? Why or why not?

definitly yes! You should buy it! Coming from Sony Xperia Z Ultra, I've got mine one month ago and I am very happy about this phone. Until now I can't see any cons. I use it of course as a phone but also as a computer. Net surfing, news, video, music, etc.. The battery is awesome in my opinion, usually last more than 2 days and charge quite fast.
I don't know about nougat but I don't care right now.
I ordered a Honor Note 8, a little bigger(6,6") and I will compare. After my Z Ultra, I can't use a phone less than this size.
If you like these big screens too, go ahead.

I'd say definitely yes. Especially at this price its a steal. It doesn't feel ridiculously large in your hand even if you have small hands though I've large hands. Its great as a phablet but as a tablet tiny yet comfortable enough to be used like a phone. I'd say Mi has hit the perfect sweet spot with this size. The only downside I've felt is trying to swype-type with my left hand on a traffic light, for this its not very easy on this phone. Anybody with small hands you've to use 2 hands to type. Atleast for this sake, I really wish keymonk was still developed(only keyboard on which you can swype with both fingers ). Finding tempered glasses & a holster pouch was a chore though. For a phone this size you definitely need those. But there are very few phones @ these sizes & with the kind of community support like Xiaomi. Moto, Huawei & Leeco come to mind. But moto & huawei provides slightly under-powered hardware & Leeco provides great specs but their own stock firmware is underwhelming not to mention the smaller & slower community support & response than Xioami. Right now Xiaomi seems to be riding high on all these.
P.S. - The only other phone which would be better is the Mi Mix @ 6.4". that too only because of the higher resolution & bevel-less design, but is in different price band though. Even though this phone, the Mi Max, has great SOT, I was wishing & hoping we get a similar phone but with SD 82x processor, Which Mi answered quickly with the Mix. So now I find myself wanting the Mi Mix with the SD835. And the fickleness goes on & on...

faddat said:
I had a brief look in the ROMs area, and it didn't seem that the MiMax has any currently released nougat ROMS. Will they be coming? What is the holdup-- they are not supplying source code, or...?
Curious, because I am thinking of buying one.
Anyone know of other comparably ludicrously large phones? I'm interested in devices over six inches....
Should I buy this phone? Why or why not?
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Nougat is in development, beta version is already there and tested.
Need to buy exactly, since similar devices in the same price present.

Would you still buy a gpad 8.3?

I'm planning to buy a small tablet. All I need is good display, good audio,good size and possibility to unlock root and find community support, that cost no more than 150 € second hand. I owned all the nexus , 7 2012 is too slow for those days .Nexus 7 2013 is still great for what I need, but sadly has an engineering defect that makes the touch degradate and presenting ghost touches and dead areas ( I had two of this) . Nexus 10 is a little too big and a little bit slower than nexus 7 2013 . Nexus 9 and pixel c too costly
The other only similar choose that comes to mind is the Xiaomi mipad (first model)
Do you think gpad is ok for me? Is there any notice I have to know? As hardware common defects , problems on nougat ROMs . (Just read to avoid gpe v510 version)
Any help or consideration would be helpful

It is a good tablet, but I think I would rather look for something stronger. I see a lot of lags in LOS 14.1 and seems that it won't be better. Maybe some G Pad II or G Pad III, although I am not sure if there is some LOS available for these tablets.

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It is a good tablet, but I think I would rather look for something stronger. I see a lot of lags in LOS 14.1 and seems that it won't be better. Maybe some G Pad II or G Pad III, although I am not sure if there is some LOS available for these tablets.
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And this is exactly my problem , I preferred an old nexus 10 to any other 200€ range actual tablet . Because it's not so fast, sometimes lags , cameras are not working on 7.1.2, but I know that it is stable and decent for YouTube, internet surfing and reading. I don't use any graphic intensive game and only need a bunch of apps . I tell you this because I bought 3 tablets from Asus ,Lenovo and Samsung and tried many others from Asus and other brands with 2 gigs of ram , and no one can even reach the nexus 10 performance in the long time ( after some months) , they all goes from ok and fluid to sh** , Asus more than any other . I know what I do I'm a technician with a computer/smartphone repair laboratory , there were no bloatware or any background games present ,nothing, I even tried to debloat the system the most that I could . It's because all of this that I was asking

No way buddy.
Try the galaxy tab a 10.1 wifi 2016
I bought the tab A a few months ago and its really perfect for the money (around 189€ now).
Look at me for example.
Im here right now because i forgot to charge the galaxy for a week and i have to use the g pad now, so i already search for fixes etc..
It was a good tablet for 2013-14, but not anymore.

Axel85 said:
I'm planning to buy a small tablet. All I need is good display, good audio,good size and possibility to unlock root and find community support, that cost no more than 150 € second hand. I owned all the nexus , 7 2012 is too slow for those days .Nexus 7 2013 is still great for what I need, but sadly has an engineering defect that makes the touch degradate and presenting ghost touches and dead areas ( I had two of this) . Nexus 10 is a little too big and a little bit slower than nexus 7 2013 . Nexus 9 and pixel c too costly
The other only similar choose that comes to mind is the Xiaomi mipad (first model)
Do you think gpad is ok for me? Is there any notice I have to know? As hardware common defects , problems on nougat ROMs . (Just read to avoid gpe v510 version)
Any help or consideration would be helpful
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Don't even think about it! SD card random dismount problem has never been fixed, and the USA version was never updated beyond Jelly Bean.
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For what it's worth, I was still using my V500 for exactly the same purposes.
I wasn't on stock for long, though, having transitioned to CM12.1 and was fully satisfied with it for a long time. Of course I got the ghost touches and SD card unmounting issues, but a quick reboot would normally fix those.
Sadly, I'm here now because a recent app update sent it into a bootloop twice recently, so I'm investigating if my device is past its age...

As you should be able to pick up a v500 for something like $70, it may be worth a punt. I put Lineage 14.1 on the Mrs's v500 and its pretty good. The only time it really lags is when its woken from a long doze. Just bear in mind the screen isn't a patch on the Nexus 7 2013 as it has poor black levels and a yellow tint.
If I was in your boat, I'd also look out for a second hand Galaxy Tab S2 8". I bought mine a year ago in the UK for £190 from a CeX store so you should be able to pick one up much cheaper now. The lack of weight and screen of the S2 are amazing.

The S2 is very good for the money, though mine was $220 used, and my wife's v500(just bought it) was only $70. Right now I'm kinda wondering why I spent so much for the Samsung.
We'll see if I still think that in a couple weeks. But so far, I would say if you want a good cheap tablet, get the v500, and flash it with LOS. If you want the best used tablet in this size, for ~$200-$240, get the S2. Oh, and get the 2016 version. Not the 2015. LOS support for the 2016 is better. SM-T713 is what you want. The 710 is kinda dead, and it has been for a long time now.
But pertaining strictly to the OP, yes I would buy one today.

Because there is no other better LG tablet with custom ROM support, I think the best choice would be buying Google Pixel C.

Just a update for you my man, if you can, just buy the Lenovo P8 (don't know it's other names). It's a straight up update to the g pad 8.3, but if you still want it, buy the v500 man, it's a good tablet for around basics and intermediate needs

antharys96 said:
Just a update for you my man, if you can, just buy the Lenovo P8 (don't know it's other names). It's a straight up update to the g pad 8.3, but if you still want it, buy the v500 man, it's a good tablet for around basics and intermediate needs
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Or Nexus 9, I just bought one used on ebay for some 100 €

Maybe G Pad X 8.0 would be also a fine replacement, it support LOS, according to their downoad site.

Hmmmm.....
I am the user of lg g pad 8.3. If you will use the lg gpad 8.3 I strongly recommend you to flash LNG OS 14.1 on the pad.
OR FIND STRONGER ONE.

I wonder how do I use my old V500. I bought an older Nexus 9 and do not use V500 since then. I cannot use it as a video player cause it does not have a HDMI output. Maybe some video/audio player to kitchen, but it is not very usable without a remote. Any suggestions?

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I wonder how do I use my old V500. I bought an older Nexus 9 and do not use V500 since then. I cannot use it as a video player cause it does not have a HDMI output. Maybe some video/audio player to kitchen, but it is not very usable without a remote.
Any suggestions?
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Bluetooth mouse.

ze7zez said:
Bluetooth mouse.
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I know, I have one, but use it for a notebook. Also, it is not very suitable like a remote for a tablet.
I am rather thinking about alternative use for my V500
Btw, happy new year, everyone.

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(...) Also, it is not very suitable like a remote for a tablet.
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bluetooth remote controller

wizzardsk said:
Or Nexus 9, I just bought one used on ebay for some 100 €
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Have to totally disagree with this. The Nexus 9 is by far the worst Android device I've ever experienced. The v500 can actually hold things in memory where the N9 has to constantly boot them out due to lack of RAM. I've tried custom roms on the N9, custom kernels with tricks like zRAM but the performance is still way too inconsistent. The only solution for the N9 is sending it to China for someone to solder in another 2GB RAM.
If you can get a v500 today for the right money and the right condition, its still better than many cheap sub £100/$130 tablets that are kicking around. LOS is needed though.

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Have to totally disagree with this. The Nexus 9 is by far the worst Android device I've ever experienced. The v500 can actually hold things in memory where the N9 has to constantly boot them out due to lack of RAM. I've tried custom roms on the N9, custom kernels with tricks like zRAM but the performance is still way too inconsistent. The only solution for the N9 is sending it to China for someone to solder in another 2GB RAM.
If you can get a v500 today for the right money and the right condition, its still better than many cheap sub £100/$130 tablets that are kicking around. LOS is needed though.
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I do not agree. I use Nexus 9 now with LOS 15.1 and it runs much better than v500, of course. Maybe It could be a little faster, but anyway it is very good. Only the battery seems to be weaker than v500 has, it discharges a little faster.

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I do not agree. I use Nexus 9 now with LOS 15.1 and it runs much better than v500, of course. (...)
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It can not work much better because there is no LOS 15.1 for v500.

Should I wait for Zenfone 6 or buy OnePlus 7 Pro?

I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?

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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Well. As you already know, ZenUI 6.0 has been launched along with Z6, which is just vanilla android with Asus's additional features. According to me, you should wait for Z6 for the following reasons:
1. 1+7 Pro's screen looks gorgeous, but it is very very prone to damage, also Z6s LCD supports 100% of Color Gamut.
2. 1+s battery is just sub standard, yes they give Warp Charging, but as it is rightly said, they are just killing the anxiety, actual productivity is to actually have a large battery. Also, Z6 comes with Qualcomm QuickCharge 4.0
3. Z6s 5000 mAH battery coupled with SD855 will give a stellar SOT.
4. 1+ may have the Sony IMX 586 at rear, but its front camera is average at best. On the other hand, in Z6 you get the exact same high end camera for both rear and front camera photography.
5. And finally, there is a chance that ZenUI 6 is better than OOS. Also, Z6 is included in the Q beta program and ZenUI 6 is as stock as possible, so you can expect very quick updates. Also, Asus has guaranteed Android R update as well.

I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.

both are preety good. But both comes under diffrent costing.
If money is not the issue for you and you want hdr 10 amoled display and be ok with no expandable storage and 4000 mah battry you can buy one plus 7 pro.
But if you can be ok with slighlty lesser display quality and can be ok with the lcd can offer. And you want 5000 mah battery, with new camera technology. And you wana save money by huge amount or you are set on bugget wait for zenfone 6. Its gona be a great device.
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prestonmcafee said:
I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
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one plus has cornning gorilla v 5 zenfone has v6
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.

prestonmcafee said:
Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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unlocking zenfone 5z is daam easy on the other hand rooting it is a very long procedure.
Well i am not so sure about dev community.
since zenfone max pro series is google stock rom it has preety decent development. On the other hand well all i can say is you can expect 1 or 2 development programs for sure. But don't expect any more further development.
Most of the developers will focus on one plus 7 nd pro, upcoming xiaomi POCOFONE F2, and other devices with stock google rom.
Sent from my Asus Zenfone 5Z using XDA Labs

Taking a look at the 5Z Dev Forum... That looks kinda disapointing.
i was looking for a bit more development than my Sony Xperia XZ2.
Coming from the Old Sonys and the HTC10 which had a fairly big Custom Rom Community i'm somewhat disapointed. And going for a Pixel or OnePlus without a MicroSD slot is not an option.

I think the whole world of phone enthusiasts will be watching the dev section of Z6. Hope that terminations ZL XL KL, etc, or whatever they call it, doesn't make a different phone such as with Samsung, LG phones, thus making development much more difficult and restrictive for some.
For the price they ask, it's a good choice, negatives would be lack of telephoto and IR blaster, but we can live without them for sure.
I kinda hope that the community will grow, as I would like to change my LeMax2.

i would say the Z6 is way better bang for the buck compared to the oneplus. I will see once its on store shelves before buying though. Huawei seem to be in a lot of trouble right now with google actually pulling its services for their devices, updates and play store access, will keep an eye on that.

Yeah the only thing stopping me from buying z6 is the custom rom development

I'm pretty sure with ASUS' shift towards AOSP, development efforts will be far greater for the 6 than the 5z.
I'm just hoping they release a big screen version that's a true successor to their old phablets. A 16:9 or 16:10 7-8" device would be awesome.
Pleaseeee ASUS.

Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...

mudnightoil said:
Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
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Having the same question...
Edit: Source code and bootloader unlock tool are available. Fingers crossed for some heavy development https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
Edit2: They've created a forum for it

Zenfone seems like the better phone bigger battery
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It's not about the money.
I am was a OnePlus user until OnePlus 5T. But later I realised OnePlus has forgot its core values. I don't mean that OnePlus devices aren't good. They are best . But Asus Is implementing the same strategy OnePlus used years ago. Great Devices with Low Cost Value . Asus devices aren't either bad. They are best as per the cost. Quality & Cost is Balanced you know what I mean. It's just about Premium & Budget. Both the devices are great with there own unique way. I love both the companies Asus at priority & OnePlus at Satisfaction.
prestonmcafee said:
I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Get a Redmi K20 Pro

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Get a Redmi K20 Pro
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The best answer here.

Think twice before going for Asus zenfone 6
Trust me you don't wanna spend your life waiting for a official ROM to arrive. The cheaper doesn't always mean compromise, after using Zuk Z2 plus for 2 years, still i feel much happier using Zuk Z2, am running official lineage os and twrp was available from day 1. Anyways I learnt it the hard way that Asus is pretty cheap, they earn a huge profit by selling your privacy. Won't do mistake again, Privacy is more important than specs anyday, hands down to Zenfone6. People may take price of OP7 as granted but OP7 will be 20 times more successful and loved and supported in XDA.

This phone vs Asus ROG Phone 2

What do you guys think? I am leaning towards ROG Phone 2

ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.

aoaleman said:
ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.
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I don't mind missing VoLTE mad WiFi calling .. I am just excited about that 120hz display and that battery

90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.

I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/

dladz said:
90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.
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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus

dudeperfect said:
I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/

Same Confusion
niyonsv said:
This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/
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Same confusion here.
I really like both the phones but feel that ROG II is a lot better on paper than the 7T, and since the price is the same, why not buy it. But 2 concerns make me want to buy the 7T over ROG II. Those are:
1. Overall UI experience (7T has to be definitely better, I assume, since they've placed extra effort on Design and the smoothness as overall, and also maybe because ROG II has just stock Android 9 UI [from ZenFone 6z] without any optimization)
2. Custom Dev support (which am pretty sure is where 7T will shine, but for now am less concerned about it because of HDR and any other such features that will be rendered useless once the phone is bootloader-unlocked)
3. After-Sales Service (again OnePlus might be a definite win, but only because I don't know of the current situation with the ASUS after-sales service, if someone can enlighten me, please!!)
But there are more reasons to buy ROG Phone II over 7T:
1. 120Hz Display w/240Hz Touch Response (although some user was reporting that he/she was able to see some flickering or graininess with the 120Hz RR, none of the Youtubers reviews mentioned any such thing so might be a false-positive, MKBHD though pointed out that the screen would light up a bit when trying to fingerprint unlock)
2. Headphone jack w/Hi-Res Audio output
3. Front-facing dual speaker with the NXP Amplifiers (They are really good from all the reviews that I've watched)
4. 6000mAh battery (just massive and a kind of a must nowadays, I like that they didn't try to compromise at all)
I have been into Android Rooting etc. ever since I got my Xperia U (my 1st ever Android phone) and have been into it till now. Earlier I would just get my new phone, dig into XDA forums and start following the bootloader unlocking process and rooting my phone if it was available. Heck, I rooted my HTC One M8 and OnePlus 3T on day 1/2.
Please provide some inputs if anybody has any recent experience with Asus Mobile Service Centres

ram4ufriends said:
I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus
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It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.

dladz said:
It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.
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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything

When an update from Asus comes, it resolves 5 and adds 6 issues.
#Fact
#Livedit

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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything
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Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.

dladz said:
Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.
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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.

If someone is really interested in gaming and undying battery back up he should have no 2nd thought about going with rog 2. I am oneplus fan but i miss two things in my op7t that rog 2 has, 6000 mah battery and headphone jack, specially the bigger battery.

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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/themes/playing-3-classic-fps-pc-games-htc-10-t3606762
Here u go mate.
Lol this was the HTC 10 so it's been a while.
I think once you get one of these up and running you'll want to experiment with keyboard and mouse especially for the likes of quake arena as you'll be getting dragged quite a lot

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

RumRunner19 said:
Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

cultofluna said:
DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

vangry2020 said:
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

vangry2020 said:
Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.