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With the announcement that ICS will support USB Mass Storage, I was wondering if anyone had found a Micro USB card reader similar in size to the USB Jig shown in this thread. I saw one a long time ago that was used to flash phones of a specific make, but I can't remember where I saw it. Can someone help me?
PS, I know this is a question, but I figured it fell under Accessories. Please don't burninate me.
Do you mean something like this one, http://www.amazon.com/elago-Mobile-...FKR8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322087237&sr=8-2 ?
Sort of, but a micro USB port, not a full size USB. Like the port on the bottom of the phone.
Well i don't think they make things like that for consumers, but from that video hey seems to have just used a regular microUSB cable.
As I said, I saw one out there for a specific phone maker that they use for flashing. I can't imagine that someone in China would not make them for sale. I'll keep digging, I guess. Thanks for the response, though.
wait, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...ccessories&hash=item3cbb7b1e8c#ht_2377wt_1163
is that what you're looking for?
No, but that's the size I'm looking for. An MSDHC reader that size with a micro USB plug like that has.
I have that on the way to put in the toolkit, though. A USB jig comes in handy.
I thought that announcement was that ICS, having usb mass storage support would mean that it's like how current android roms are. When you plug into the computer you can put it into usb mode to transfer files. It was previously thought that ICS would not have that and would require transfer thru MTP protocols only. I dont think it means you could just attach storage via micro usb such as external sd/hard drive.
No, they're talking about hooking up external storage. Someone was talking on Reddit about hooking up a dongle and a USB flash drive to their phone and how it worked for extra storage when they were going on a flight.
I believe what you are trying to do requires usb host support but I know what I'm saying is not the answer you are looking for so, I'll leave this be for now. Good luck in your search.
I'm pretty sure sure our phone does have host mode support. So you can get a USB host mode cable on ebay for $2 shipped, and attach a standard USB drive. Not the compact solution you are looking for, but it will work.
You are correct. It's not exactly what I want, but it would work. Thanks.
Did you find such a thing (micro-usb to microSD) ?
I have been searching crazy lately (like you, I can't believe that some manufacturers did not had this good idea ?!), but nothing !!!
And I am about to DIY one, based on the following example (but with micro-usb):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713914
I think, I am going to start with something like:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5x-Angle-USB...ltDomain_0&hash=item27bc0b1e99#ht_2265wt_1155
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313271
The final goal would be to create a micro-usb to microSD adaptator as small as possible ...
Any better idea ?
Would a dual usb cable work to get a faster charge from a pc or other device that has more than one usb port available?
Something link amazon item number B00439567Q
Typically these are used with hard drives to overcome this limitation, so I'm wondering if it would have the same effect on the Galaxy Nexus.
Link referred to by OP: http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-...567Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330558360&sr=8-1
Probably not. The nexus isn't really a hard drive, it's more like another computer, and you typically can't connect pc to pc via USB... The limitation is that the sd is actually a virtual sd, and you're actually connecting to the whole OS via USB...
You're better off mounting a stick drive and then using that to transfer files to your PC...
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Probably not. The nexus isn't really a hard drive, it's more like another computer, and you typically can't connect pc to pc via USB... The limitation is that the sd is actually a virtual sd, and you're actually connecting to the whole OS via USB...
You're better off mounting a stick drive and then using that to transfer files to your PC...
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Guess you didn't read his post... He's talking about using dual USB for power.
OP, I think it'd work. USB only puts out 500mA, so putting 2 together would improve charging times more like a wall charger that does 1A. No guarantee how the PC would handle it though.
Is your phone not charging from a USB port? Because mine does... Slowly, but it does...
What about USB 3 it has a lot more power.
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What about USB 3 it has a lot more power.
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From what I have read usb3 is .8a while a single usb2 is .5a. So .3 more a. Unfortunately I have no usb3 hosts, so that not an option.
Anyway thanks martonikaj, I will change my cables and hopefully get a more timely charge.
Unless you short the data wires on the usb cable or use a kernel that has full usb charging enabled it won't matter how many ports you use. The phone detects the data connection and reduced charging to the slow charge to prevent overloading a pc usb port.
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Maybe flash a kernel that has the USB Fast Charge mod enabled?
Just want to know for something like, connect a external storage and the other usb to charge the phone or something else and still have the other one to charge the phone.
Thanks
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Well since this is getting into a project. I will be adding the info here.
New thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32618626#post32618626
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highvista said:
It looks like it works! Both the phone and my 64GB flash drive are being powered via a USB charger connected to a Y-cable. As far as I can tell, the phone battery isn't being charged and may still be draining a bit--this may depend on the current delivered by the USB charger. But I've been playing music for hours from an attached USB flash drive with my screen on and the battery level is still sitting at 98%.
I've attached ZIP files with a boot image containing the kernel. The yakju boot image was created by replacing the stock kernel in a Nandroid boot image obtained from the Galaxy Nexus described in my sig. The other boot images were created from the boot image included with the Google factory ROM. I can't test these, so use with caution. NOTE!!! Make sure you do a Nandroid backup of your phone before trying out the attached boot images. Things can go wrong and you want to be able to recover.
This was posted earlier in the thread, but credits for the kernel code tweak, along with details, go to the contributor to this thread
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30615-can-you-charge-usb-host-mode-simultaneously/
Have fun!
10/09/12:
I've added two more ZIP files. These contain boot images with the code modded such that the phone battery is charged when using the Y-cable. NOTE: The phone will think it is being charged any time a USB OTG cable is connected. I haven't figured out a way around this yet. This doesn't really hurt anything, except if you have your phone set to stay on when charging, you could end up running down your battery! Important safety tip.
10/15/12:
I've replaced the previous ZIP files with two new ones. These contain boot images for takju and yakju JRO03C/4.1.1 that provide USB OTG+charging, with the added benefit that you can still use a standard USB OTG cable to connect an external device. As in the stock kernel, the phone will provide power for the external device. In other words, the new kernel in the ZIP archives auto-detects if there is a charger attached via a y-cable and uses it to power the external device and charge the phone, if it's found.
I've also fixed the problem where the phone would show a charging icon in the notification bar if a USB OTG cable was attached without any external device connected to it.
NOTE: THESE ZIP FILES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE FLASHED TO YOUR PHONE. These files contain a file called boot.img that can be flashed to your rooted phone from your computer via ADB with the commands
fastboot flash boot /path/to/<boot>.img
fastboot reboot
You can learn more about using fastboot at http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/Fastboot.
12/28/12:
Version V4 is replacing V3. This new version fixes the bug where detaching external power from the USB OTG y-cable or USB hub wasn't detected by the phone. Now, when power is detached, the phone switches to battery power, including supplying battery power to any attached USB devices.
Note that the reverse is not true. If you connect external power when the phone and external USB devices are being powered by battery, the phone will continue to use battery power. The external power is not detected. When in doubt, disconnect and reconnect the USB OTG cable to cause the phone to recognize what's attached.
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12/28/12:
Version V4 is replacing V3. This new version fixes the bug where detaching external power from the USB OTG y-cable or USB hub wasn't detected by the phone. Now, when power is detached, the phone switches to battery power, including supplying battery power to any attached USB devices.
Note that the reverse is not true. If you connect external power when the phone and external USB devices are being powered by battery, the phone will continue to use battery power. The external power is not detected. When in doubt, disconnect and reconnect the USB OTG cable to cause the phone to recognize what's attached.
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Rotary Heart said:
Just want to know for something like, connect a external storage and the other usb to charge the phone or something else and still have the other one to charge the phone.
Thanks
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No one knows? what about a usb hub?
Its, like something else.
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android01 said:
Its, like something else.
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What does that means?
Rotary Heart said:
Just want to know for something like, connect a external storage and the other usb to charge the phone or something else and still have the other one to charge the phone.
Thanks
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I believe he is making a reference to your op
I don't understand what op is asking.
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I think he is wanting to somehow daisy chain the devices having power from the first one provide enough charge current for the last one. Least that is what im thinking he said i dunno though
Ok let me explain it a bit better. Lets say I have a flash drive (external storage, external hard drive, whatever you want to call it) I connect it to my phone with a usb to micro usb adapter. Now I have my ONLY micro usb connector in use, but after a while I'm running out of battery so I want to charge my phone BUT I can't since I can't remove my flash drive (because I'm using it).
Now I'm asking for an adapter or something that can let me connect my flash drive and still be able to charge my phone. like a 2 usb to 1 usb adapter for PC. Or like the adapter to connect 2 headphones in one headphone port.
I hope it's clear enough now. :laugh:
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=103&categoryId=10303&subCategoryId=1030303
Connect that to a powered hub, plug flash drive into one of the hub ports. That should work, though i don't use usb otg, so i couldn't say for sure.
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Ok let me explain it a bit better. Lets say I have a flash drive (external storage, external hard drive, whatever you want to call it) I connect it to my phone with a usb to micro usb adapter. Now I have my ONLY micro usb connector in use, but after a while I'm running out of battery so I want to charge my phone BUT I can't since I can't remove my flash drive (because I'm using it).
Now I'm asking for an adapter or something that can let me connect my flash drive and still be able to charge my phone. like a 2 usb to 1 usb adapter for PC. Or like the adapter to connect 2 headphones in one headphone port.
I hope it's clear enough now. :laugh:
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This is the closest thing i could find.
ttabbal said:
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=103&categoryId=10303&subCategoryId=1030303
Connect that to a powered hub, plug flash drive into one of the hub ports. That should work, though i don't use usb otg, so i couldn't say for sure.
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I thought about this one, maybe I will give it a try. I hope it works.
Thanks
Rotary Heart said:
Ok let me explain it a bit better. Lets say I have a flash drive (external storage, external hard drive, whatever you want to call it) I connect it to my phone with a usb to micro usb adapter. Now I have my ONLY micro usb connector in use, but after a while I'm running out of battery so I want to charge my phone BUT I can't since I can't remove my flash drive (because I'm using it).
Now I'm asking for an adapter or something that can let me connect my flash drive and still be able to charge my phone. like a 2 usb to 1 usb adapter for PC. Or like the adapter to connect 2 headphones in one headphone port.
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Unfortunately, the answer is no. I've tried several ways to get this to work, with no success. I routinely mount a flash drive using a USB OTG cable and the Stickmount app in order to listen to my music collection. It works great, but USB OTG drains the phone battery rather quickly.
I even cut out a notch on my desktop dock so I could attach the flash drive while trying to charge the phone via the dock's pogo pins. Here's a thread discussing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651757
The USB standard does provide for a method of charging while using USB OTG via a device called an Accessory Charger Adapter. But I haven't found such a device available anywhere.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you do happen to find another solution, do let us know.
I don't think I have the bits needed to try it, but looking through the spec, I think you can simulate the requirements for the ACA.
Connect a 124K resistor from ID to GND on the micro side. That should tell the OTG host (the phone) to go to Charge/Host mode allowing the B device (memory stick etc) to work AND allowing the phone to charge... You will need to provide a decent 5V power connection. You need to power both the phone and the accessory device from this.
ttabbal said:
I don't think I have the bits needed to try it, but looking through the spec, I think you can simulate the requirements for the ACA.
Connect a 124K resistor from ID to GND on the micro side. That should tell the OTG host (the phone) to go to Charge/Host mode allowing the B device (memory stick etc) to work AND allowing the phone to charge... You will need to provide a decent 5V power connection. You need to power both the phone and the accessory device from this.
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Ok I understand the resistor and where to connect it, but where I will connect the power source? if the memory stick is using the micro usb port?
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Ok I understand the resistor and where to connect it, but where I will connect the power source? if the memory stick is using the micro usb port?
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Powered hub. Or otherwise connect to the power lines..
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Powered hub. Or otherwise connect to the power lines..
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Ok thanks I will try this one and when I have it done will update the thread.
Rotary Heart said:
Ok thanks I will try this one and when I have it done will update the thread.
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So? You tried that out? it worked?
caioketo said:
So? You tried that out? it worked?
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I'm waiting to receive my powered hub... So will let you know.
I'm about to do this too, so if I got mine first, i update here. =D
And it should work, couse it will be the same in specification, so teorically it will work!
caioketo said:
I'm about to do this too, so if I got mine first, i update here. =D
And it should work, couse it will be the same in specification, so teorically it will work!
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If you got it to work I will love to see it . Mine still on its way home...
I just recently got a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and so far I'm quite happy with it --- except one thing, I cant find a cable that lets me charge the tablet *and* use the USB Host (OTG) port... (i.e. read files off a USB drive or play a game with a USB game pad while keeping the tablet plugged in)
Is there a way to do this? it would seem to me that all it needs is a splice to give power to the Power +/- pins on the connector while keeping the OTG Data +/- pins active...? (I know nothing about the pinout so I could be wrong on this)
Just to be clear I want to use the OTG adapter WHILE CHARGING (I've found one device that gives both these options but says "only one function may be used at a time")
Ideas?
Discussed dozen times in 10.1 forum. Actually it is not possible. Build an otg + power cable myself but it only works with timing and with a specific procedure... quite annoying. Wait for a custom rom somewhere in the future as I do.
You may have issues trying this, OTG cables are iffy under Jelly Bean. Some may work, some may not. In fact, Google removed references to OTG support for Nexus devices last November since OTG is so spotty. Splicing a cable that might work may kill it. Decent battery-powered USB and SD hubs are available and bypass the OTG problems. I have the RavPower RP WD01 and love it. The USB port will support drives upto 3T. It also has an SD card slot.
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You may have issues trying this, OTG cables are iffy under Jelly Bean. Some may work, some may not. In fact, Google removed references to OTG support for Nexus devices last November since OTG is so spotty. Splicing a cable that might work may kill it. Decent battery-powered USB and SD hubs are available and bypass the OTG problems. I have the RavPower RP WD01 and love it. The USB port will support drives upto 3T. It also has an SD card slot.
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Powering the USB devices isn't a problem, I have a nice hub that powers them without issue, even extremely power-hungry devices. I was wanting to charge the tablet's battery while using the OTG adapter (original thought was for USB-gamepad-ing since high-requirement games drain battery, but I've since started using a PS3 controller over bluetooth so I can use the OEM charge cable and wireless for gaming --- but USB drives I'd have to copy the files over to internal flash or a MicroSD card to view while charging and i've found that the cards dont like files that are 8gb in size... (FAT-32 restriction iirc))
47kt said:
Discussed dozen times in 10.1 forum. Actually it is not possible. Build an otg + power cable myself but it only works with timing and with a specific procedure... quite annoying. Wait for a custom rom somewhere in the future as I do.
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I saw that when I google'd but thought maybe there had been some new developments (especially with how this site's members love to tinker with electronics and write custom firmware). It's not a huge issue, since the Note 10.1 has amazing battery life (it's actually matching or doing BETTER than my iPad in most circumstances) I just like to never run the battery down low.. (why cant tablets have user-replaceable/swapable batters like most phones?!)
Thanks for the info!
I have a Verizon LG G3 VS985. I just got it today, whipped the ioroot on there, etc.
So now that Google has decided they hate SD cards I've been having a ***** of a time getting backups going from my SGS3 to the new phone. I finally made a local backup, and then using a PC copied all the local backups to SD. I tried to do it to the LG G3, but when I plug it in to my PC after installing the verizon drivers, it says it will perform better plugging it into a Superspeed USB 3.0 port... and the copy would take 6 hours instead of 3 minutes. The port it is plugged into is one. It works with 2 USB 3.0 drives and my SGS3 as one... why does the G3 not recognize that?
The phone is not actually USB 3.0. The cable might be, but Android phones are known to have issues with USB 3.0 ports.
LG G3's are not USB 3 able because USB 3 cables are designed differently (well, use a different connector) then USB 2.0 spec cables.
You can tell the difference because the USB 3 cables will look more like a cable that plugs into the Note 3, it has an "extra" nub on the connector. It would be impossible to plug a USB 3 connector into a G3 unless in the last two days they have created a new USB 3 cable that only requires a USB MICRO B 2 connector. If they did, please link me because Ive been looking everywhere =)
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LG G3's are not USB 3 able because USB 3 cables are designed differently (well, use a different connector) then USB 2.0 spec cables.
You can tell the difference because the USB 3 cables will look more like a cable that plugs into the Note 3, it has an "extra" nub on the connector. It would be impossible to plug a USB 3 connector into a G3 unless in the last two days they have created a new USB 3 cable that only requires a USB MICRO B 2 connector. If they did, please link me because Ive been looking everywhere =)
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So how come my galaxy S3 doesn't whine about connecting it to a USB 3 port and I get massively better speed than with the G3?
Quantumrabbit said:
So how come my galaxy S3 doesn't whine about connecting it to a USB 3 port and I get massively better speed than with the G3?
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It should still ready fine, however, it will only read/write files at the USB 2.0 speed. There should no be any issues, I would try another micro usb cable, and or USB port. Or you could just use a micro sd card and pop all of the files on there from your PC which will probably be faster.
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So how come my galaxy S3 doesn't whine about connecting it to a USB 3 port and I get massively better speed than with the G3?
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Because your G3 requires a higher amperage for full charge speed then your gs3.
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It should still ready fine, however, it will only read/write files at the USB 2.0 speed. There should no be any issues, I would try another micro usb cable, and or USB port. Or you could just use a micro sd card and pop all of the files on there from your PC which will probably be faster.
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I've tried 2 other cables now, and both USB 3.0 ports on this laptop. I'll have to try at work and see if I have USB 3.0 ports there. It's just weird, the same port and cable have no warning with other phones (my rezound and gs3 both didn't whine) or with usb 3.0 flash drives. Just this phone.
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Because your G3 requires a higher amperage for full charge speed then your gs3.
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I'm not sure how that would affect data transfer speed... Charge speed, sure. Data transfer speed though...
I ended up just popping the files on the internal of the gs3 and copying them to the computer, then to the sd card while in the gs3. Then just put the sd card into the g3, where it read fine.
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I've tried 2 other cables now, and both USB 3.0 ports on this laptop. I'll have to try at work and see if I have USB 3.0 ports there. It's just weird, the same port and cable have no warning with other phones (my rezound and gs3 both didn't whine) or with usb 3.0 flash drives. Just this phone.
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I just tested mine with a USB 3.0 port on my PC without any issues. I also tried a USB 2.0, and again no issues. I don't have an answer, it could be your phone, or a setting on it. What mode are you using to transfer files PTP,MTP or the LG PC Suite?
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I just tested mine with a USB 3.0 port on my PC without any issues. I also tried a USB 2.0, and again no issues. I don't have an answer, it could be your phone, or a setting on it. What mode are you using to transfer files PTP,MTP or the LG PC Suite?
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MTP. But since it's verizon it has a weird default of "connected as installer" which isn't even in the options, then I have to choose MTP.
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I'm not sure how that would affect data transfer speed... Charge speed, sure. Data transfer speed though...
I ended up just popping the files on the internal of the gs3 and copying them to the computer, then to the sd card while in the gs3. Then just put the sd card into the g3, where it read fine.
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Because your phone is not usb 3 and requires a 1 amp charger for faster charging speeds. USB 3 VERY RARELY has 1A ports, they are usually between 500-700mA which means when you plug your phone into the computer you aren't getting the full amperage needed to fully charge speed at capacity. Combine those two issues and you get the error you get about plugging the phone into a higher speed port. If you are having problems with transfer speeds being that slow, either your phone, cable or port are borked. Try reinstalling/updating your USB drivers, try new cable or check a different phone with the same USB power requirements if you want to test where the problem is but you will NEVER get USB 3 speeds because you do not have a USB 3 port on your phone, you have USB 2.0 HS
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MTP. But since it's verizon it has a weird default of "connected as installer" which isn't even in the options, then I have to choose MTP.
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Have you tried LG's PC suite to transfer files? It works fairly well, I know its not idea, but it may help out.
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Because your phone is not usb 3 and requires a 1 amp charger for faster charging speeds. USB 3 VERY RARELY has 1A ports, they are usually between 500-700mA which means when you plug your phone into the computer you aren't getting the full amperage needed to fully charge speed at capacity. Combine those two issues and you get the error you get about plugging the phone into a higher speed port. If you are having problems with transfer speeds being that slow, either your phone, cable or port are borked. Try reinstalling/updating your USB drivers, try new cable or check a different phone with the same USB power requirements if you want to test where the problem is but you will NEVER get USB 3 speeds because you do not have a USB 3 port on your phone, you have USB 2.0 HS
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Alrighty... I guess that answers that. very counter-intuitive warning message.
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Alrighty... I guess that answers that. very counter-intuitive warning message.
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it is. I agree 100%.
This may sound strange, but if you look at the USB port inside the G3 you can see that it has additional connectors in it, recessed deeper in the socket, either side and on the end of a small plastic tab that goes from top to bottom in a square shape (about 2mm in size). Perhaps these are causing PCs to incorrectly detect a USB3 capable device?
USB 3.0 on LG-G3
I am running CM13 nightly 031316 on an LGG3 D-851. I have a dual ended USB 3.0 thumb drive It has a USB 3.0 standard connection on one end and a micro USB connection on the other end. Reading these posts am I understanding that the LGG3 will not recognize the thumb drive? Or will it not recognize just being connected to a USB port on a PC?
Thanks