Hello!
Do many of you have issue with wireless charging since Android 13. I have this issue since Beta 4 and still available in stable verison.
I have already tried to disable adaptive charging or intelligent charging, but with no improvement.
After a period of time it stopped charging. A restart of the phone solve the issue.
I use Pixel stand 1gen and 2nd gen. On both the same behavior. I also see this issue on Pixel 4 XL and Pixel 6 Pro both on Beta 4 and now on stable version.
Normal charging works pretty fine without any issue. Normally after a restart wireless charging works fine for a period of time.
For sure I do in beta a feedback to developer but issue is still open and not fixed. Probably one of you have an idea to solve this or have an idea what´s cause this issue, because obviously not all of you have this issue seen until now!
thanks
I have noticed similar wireless charging issues getting much worse on Android 13. I have always disabled adaptive charging since I often have to get up long before my alarm and still need my phone fully charged for the day.
Since the update to Android 13, it takes a full 6 hours for my phone to charge from 50% to 100% on the official Google pixel stand (1st generation). On my Pixel 4XL (pre Android 13) the same stand takes about 2 hours to charge it from 0% to 100%.
There is some bonkers bad charging regulation in Android 13 going on. I monitor the charging stats using Inware and find it only charges at <3W at most (where it used to charge 8-10W, and still does on pre-13 Pixel 4xl, so I know the stand is working fine).
In fact, it charges so slowly and therefore takes so long that after 4 or 5 hours, it makes my phone so hot (reaches ~40C) that it often has no choice but to stop wireless charging altogether. I think in its zeal to throttle wireless charging as much as possible, Android 13 actually ends up making the phone much much hotter over the long term for having to charge for SO long that it often doesn't even get to finish charging at all.
I really hope they figure this out and fix it. Unless this is all just a ploy to force us to buy the second gen wireless charging stand for $80 just for the fan... (but actually you say you have the same problem on the 2nd gen stand, so I don't know lol)
I have a 2nd generation Pixel stand that was a Xmas gift, and it, overall, charges really no better than a respected 3rd party 15W stand.
Haven't upgraded to A13 because of the terrible reports from wireless charging, and I'm using Renovate magisk tweaks that doesn't fully support A13 yet. However, when I take the A13 plunge, I'll post how it works on the 2nd generation stand...
i had an issue immediately after updating but after restarting the phone ive not had any problems with wireless charging in the last few days.
A13 here. Pixel Stand 2gen.
I have to keep taking my phone off the stand and putting it back till it works. It will never work on optimize. I have to set it to max.
I've been playing with different cases while wireless charging and monitoring the phone temperature with Inware, and have noticed a pattern.
1. After A13 update, charging is much more strictly throttled based on phone temperature. Where wireless charging used to pause when the phone reached ~38C, now it pauses ~35C. I assume this is to allow the phone to cool before continuing charging (which it often does), but for the most part, the phone retains a lot of warmth (and can actually keep warming) with or without charging so long as it's on the charger, making wireless charging pretty much a lost cause if the phone is at all warm to begin with.
2. I've monitored the temperature of the phone while wireless charging in different cases. In my cloth case, the phone warms up to 35C quickly. It barely cools during the pause in wireless charging, so it pretty much just fails at charging altogether. Overnight, it will *almost* fully charge my phone after 6 hours. *Almost.*
In my tpu case, the phone stays between 30C and 35C pretty consistently. Overnight, it will fully charge over 4 to 6 hours consistently.
In my case with a clear plastic back, it seems to stay even cooler, and can fully charge in under 4 hours. Same with no case.
So (at least in my case) the wireless charging issue seems to be connected to overzealous temperature-dependent charging-speed throttling, which seems to bring down the throttling threshold so low that case choice makes a huge difference in how/if my phone will wirelessly charge at all, where this wasn't an issue at all before A13.
Humm........ So, since I was used to the Stand gen 2 on A12, I just thought it didn't really work on A13. Leave it on the charger. After about 20 seconds, it stops saying to realign the phone and the blinking lights disappear. It works, just have to be patient.
So I just came to post my new experience. I just got the Ghostek Covert Pixel 6 Pro case. I was using an OtterBox defender case. With that case every time I put my phone on the charger, the white led would always bink on and off because it had a hard time getting the connection. It would eventually get the connection.
This new case, I have no connection issues. It's instantaneous. I'm also getting better charging speeds.
With the OtterBox defender case, I would have between 13-15% charging speed.
This screenshot is with my new case.
After fully charging
If you have enabled fast wireless charging then disable it. I hope this will work for you.
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Hi all, brand new but I've been a lurker of the Tmo s6 edge forums.
Anyway here's the predicament. I got my S6E yesterday set it up, used for the rest of the day with no qualms.
When I went to put it on the charger it was at 7%, i thought to myself, I'll use an Apple 5W charger for a slower charge throughout the night.
I figured the slower, low powered charge will be better for the battery.
As it was charging it stopped in the middle of the night at 20%. From there, the phone constantly went from Charging, not charing, charging, not charging; repeatedly until I woke up to discover it at 7:20AM. I plugged in the phone at 2:30AM. It must have been in this charging on/off loop since 2:45AM or so. The phone was pretty toasty. The screen was on and the phone kept making that noise when you connect/disconnect from the charger.
So my question. will 4ish hours of everything i just mentioned fry the battery?
Edit: By fry I mean significantly reduce the overall battery lifetime. The phone seems fully functional.
All that noise and you didn't wake up earlier?
No, I'm sure it'll be fine. I've used Blackberry and older, non-fastcharging Samsung chargers on mine.
Had the same issue on my S3, it's battery lasted four years (gave it to my brother as a gift).
If you really want to check what's happening, get a $5 USB current monitor plug in adapter on ebay. It shows what voltage it's outputting and the current. I noticed that my old AT&T Note 3 OEM charger's voltage was actually high at 6V or so. This is to charge the device faster, but it didn't work well with any other devices or even portable battery packs.
HI can anyone tell me if there is any way to resolve this. I think is has started since doing the upgrade to Android 10 earlier this week.
I normally put my phone onto the wireless charger before going to bed and I have noticed recently that when I grab it in the morning the battery percentage is sitting around the 90% mark. I initially thought the charger was not able to charge to 100% but on further examination I see that it indeed charged to 100% after I placed it on the charger and then the charging stopped and the phone ran on battery until I removed it in the morning.
I confirmed this this morning by replacing it on the charger and watching it charge (like watching paint dry ). The charger light was blue while charging, when the phone hit 100% the charger light turned to green but after about 30s it completely switched off and so too did the indication on the lock screen that a charger is connected. Removing and reseating the phone started charging again.
It definitely looks to be software related as I did not have this problem last week. I just wanted to ask if anyone here has noticed this and knows of any workaround?
For the record I am running fast wireless charging with the samsung wireless charger that came with my wifes S8, that charger works perfectly with my older Note8. I have also tried switching to normal wireless charging speed with no success.
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HI can anyone tell me if there is any way to resolve this. I think is has started since doing the upgrade to Android 10 earlier this week.
I normally put my phone onto the wireless charger before going to bed and I have noticed recently that when I grab it in the morning the battery percentage is sitting around the 90% mark. I initially thought the charger was not able to charge to 100% but on further examination I see that it indeed charged to 100% after I placed it on the charger and then the charging stopped and the phone ran on battery until I removed it in the morning.
I confirmed this this morning by replacing it on the charger and watching it charge (like watching paint dry ). The charger light was blue while charging, when the phone hit 100% the charger light turned to green but after about 30s it completely switched off and so too did the indication on the lock screen that a charger is connected. Removing and reseating the phone started charging again.
It definitely looks to be software related as I did not have this problem last week. I just wanted to ask if anyone here has noticed this and knows of any workaround?
For the record I am running fast wireless charging with the samsung wireless charger that came with my wifes S8, that charger works perfectly with my older Note8. I have also tried switching to normal wireless charging speed with no success.
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Unplug the charger from its power source and plug it in again, causing it to 'reboot'. Let us know the results. Note, there is an option to set the wireless charging to NOT be fast during certain hours of the day. I set mine so it charges slowly while I am sleeping - to put less stress on the battery. Your charger may be a little old as well if you got it with a note 8 or S8 - ?
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IMO this is a good feature to stop the wireless charger cooking your battery.
Maybe turn down your AOD brightness or something, to use 10% within a couple of hours of being idle is pretty high. Maybe turning off fast wireless charging would extend the charge time so it finishes nearer to when you wake up could help too.
Thanks for the feedback however it does sound like workarounds for an issue that should not be present (apart from rebooting the charger which I will try when I get home).
For me wireless charging should act just like wired charging in that when it reaches 100% the phone should essentially run off the charger now and not use battery at all. Every other phone with wireless charging that I have had worked that way, this is just plain stupid.
Willhemmens its not a couple hours, looking at the battery graph if I go to bed at 10pm and put the phone on the charger it pretty much hits 100% around 11:30 and then is at 90% at 7am, so it is 10% over 7 hours which is ok in my books, but reality is that during this time the phone has another source of power that it can and should use. It did before I applied the Android 10 update.
I have had this issue every now and again, and I found that rebooting it takes care of the issue.
An update. This morning I tried my wife's wireless charger and when the phone reaches 100% it continues to show the charge icon. Put my wife's note 8 into the wireless charger and it exhibited my problem.
So it looks like this is a problem with the wireless charger and not the phone.
Thanks for the answers guys I am of to try buy a new wireless charger
edit - New charger solved the problem.
Hi, I have Samsung Galaxy S20+ G985F/DS (Exynos). Few weeks ago I get a new company car, which has wireless Smartlink+ for android auto and apple car play. I was used to use cable, but few days ago I decided to bought wireless charger (Baseus Cobble 15W) to my car. Since then I have problem with overheating my phone when I am using wireless android auto and wirelessly charging it. I am using Spotify and Waze together and at same time I am charging it with wireless charger, but after few minutes (usually 5-10 minutes) it disconnets with error that my phone is too hot and it will continue charging after it will be colder. When I try to take a phone its damn hot. Is this normal behaviour or my phone is broken?
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
blackhawk said:
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
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Well thank you for your answer, but I don't understand you well. Your post is very confusing. But from what I understand, you simply tell me, that I must buy normal wire charger and I must stop using wireless charger because using it is not good? But that is not answer that i want. Because I don't want to plug cable to phone, because when I have wireless android auto in my car, its useless. For example my colleague have car with built in wireless charger. And from what you told me, he can't use this built in charger because its bad?
You have two issues.
App(s) that are using excessive battery.
Charging while using.
Both are best avoided and both drive up the temperature.
Of course you can do what you want but battery longevity may take a hit in doing so.
Karma Firewall is useful for finding unnecessary bandwidth hogs and some of the battery hogs. Start with that.
All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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Excellent point.
A damp rag can be used to reduce the temp.
Unless the charge port is broken wireless charging just doesn't seem like a good modility.
Even at high frequency and optimum primary/secondary winding gapping air core transformers are notoriously inefficient.
These batteries are power hungry critters...
Man, I know what you all are saying but imagine covering your phone with a damp rag when changing, imma die of laughter if I see that anywhere. I know it's gonna work but it's going to be funny af
Mine did the same thing, it was 5 days old when I saw it the first time. If you insist using your phone and charging it wirelessly disable the fast wireless charging option from the settings and you are going to be good to go, but don't expect the phone to charge that much, maybe 2% in 5min, something like that probably. It will not overheat, tested it myself. Be careful, if it continues to overheat even with fast wireless charging option disabled stop using the charger when using your phone. I have a suspicion I burned my coil like that, it only took 5 or so times where my phone said that it can't continue charging because too hot. I hope that wasn't the case.
As the title mention, once the P6P achieves 60% on the pixel stand 2, charging becomes intermittent. There are no issues with charging speed as it's able to reach as high as 28W. I tried removing the phone, restarting the phone, changing charging speed preference, changing the USB cord, unplugging/replugging the charger, with no difference.
When I place my Pixel 4xl on the stand, no issues reaching 80%, my assigned charging limit. I'm not sure if it's software or hardware issue with my Pixel 6 Pro. Can anyone provide suggestions how to resolve the issue? Thanks
EDIT: It appears that Morgrain was correct, the issue disappears once I disabled ACC module. Will reach out to dev about the issue. Thanks Morgrain.
Do you have the adaptive charging setting on? If so try turning it off.
Is it heat? My P6P will charge until it gets warm then stops charging. It's really annoying as on my car holder wireless charger it hardly ever charges. This is the only phone I've had this happen to but it's to do with overheating.
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Do you have the adaptive charging setting on? If so try turning it off.
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I don't have adaptive charging on.
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Is it heat? My P6P will charge until it gets warm then stops charging. It's really annoying as on my car holder wireless charger it hardly ever charges. This is the only phone I've had this happen to but it's to do with overheating.
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The phone is not warm. It's cool to touch plus the stand has a fan to prevent it from overheating.
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When I place my Pixel 4xl on the stand, no issues reaching 80%, my assigned charging limit
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Did you tinker with the charging limit on your P6 aswell (in the past)? Maybe it's AccuBattery/whatever app with a similar feature set that might run in the background, preventing your phone to charge fully. You might want to deactivate/deinstall all those apps to see if one is the culprit.
I can say from personal experience (got the P6 Pro and the Stand 2) that both work (at least for me) without issue, the phone charged to 100% no problem. Of course that still leaves hardware or software issues that might be the cause of your issue.
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Did you tinker with the charging limit on your P6 aswell (in the past)? Maybe it's AccuBattery/whatever app with a similar feature set that might run in the background, preventing your phone to charge fully. You might want to deactivate/deinstall all those apps to see if one is the culprit.
I can say from personal experience (got the P6 Pro and the Stand 2) that both work (at least for me) without issue, the phone charged to 100% no problem. Of course that still leaves hardware or software issues that might be the cause of your issue.
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I use Advanced Charging Controller to stop charging at 80%. I don't mess with the voltage or current. My pixel 4xl operate under the same condition, limiting the charge to 80%.
The next time I recharge my phone I will disable the module to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the suggestion.
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
I'll have to pay more attention to the charging speed on my P6P and let you know what I experience. I try to never use fast charging, never charge overnight, try not to let the battery go below 25% and don't charge past 75%. That 50% range lasts me about 24 hours, but I might use my phone less than you.
I had no complaints about the charging speed on Android 12.
Edit: I'm happy with how much my phone has charged in the last 45 minutes, given that I don't use fast charge methods.
I am having the same issue. Installed 13 stable on my 6 pro. My battery got down to 4% so I plugged it in. I continued to watch YouTube and after an hour it was only up to 8%. Something is def wrong. The battery sucked before but now it's even worse
Updated yesterday and seems ive now got an issue with wireless charging. My phone stopped charging at 81% overnight. Its very intermittent whether it starts charging now on the two wireless chargers i have and seems to stop randomly, not getting to 100%. Charges fine using a cable.
Have the same problem since upgrading to android 13.
According to AccuBattery is the charge current around 900 mA. Way too slow and really annoying!
Didn't have the problem with android 12.
I'm using an Anker Power Port III which can charge with up to 25W. It's the same with other cables and charging devices.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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I think you didn't get my point. I did a comparison between android 12 and android 13. Since the charging speed is reduced dramatically it doesn't matter which cables or charging devices I use unless they are the same.
So we don't discuss absolute charging times here but the fact that by upgrading the OS of our Pixel 6 Pro the charging behaviour changed ceteris paribus.
I charge slowly over night, the charger i use normally charges at 1.5A max, now on A13 it is charging at 800mA
I have ESR magsafe ring. My car charger is working for about 2 minutes and stops. Battery temperature reach 43°C within 2-3 minutes since I upgraded to android 13.
All of the magsafe accessories stopped working. All of the normal QI chargers stopped working. I absolutely hate this phone. First 3 months - no reception in buildings. Still no 5G in my country even with root and signal guru. Now it's not charging wirelessly and only slow charing with cable.
My new guess is it is due to the overheating problem with the update to Android 13.
A lot of people complain about the high temperature. Therefore the phone reduces the charging speed.
Maybe that's also the reason for the problem with the wireless charging. too much heat = no wireless charging. Just guessing...
ATM I rebooted my phone to safe mode. Let's see if this helps.
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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well we know for one you dont need that
just a cable capable of the current and a charger that hits PPF standards
and even with/without official chargers it will only peak 21w
im using a £5 Gan charger and a USlion 2M long magnetic 60w cable that can do data aswell and it is doing 20w peak for me on A13 which is what it did on A12 aswell. Both which i bought before the official charger came out
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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Nope, still charging like a piece of [crap, so,] not sure what Google did with A13 , I use official charger for fast charge, considerably slower than on A12
But yeah 3rd party Chinese charge and magnetic cable no issues. Charging issues are not a13 related it will be some defining factor like an app or hardware
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Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
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I am having the same problem
I updated my pixel 5a to 13 stable. It's charging speed decreased a lot . Firstly it took around 1hr 50 min to get 100 now it's lot
more than 3hr. Gets lot of heating while charging.
Sometime it shows "6 hr to full charge" even at (30-40) battery level, and that's really bad .
After 13 Device is heating ( not just warm) so much even in normal uses (No gaming).
My own testing found out as long as battery reach 41 degree C, the P6P will charge at 3.5W only... (While still displaying fast charging). It you put the phone in front of air conditioner vent to lower the temperature to 25 degrees C, then it charging at full 20W.
The P6P easily get into battery y 41 degrees C by just charging at room temperature higher then 32 degrees C. On A12 its pretty difficult to get this... Somehow A13 drive the CPU while charging which I suspect affect the heat dispatching. I used a charging wire with watterage display so its easily see how P6P limiting the charging wattage with temperature.
It was considerably slower for me too. I was in Spain, coming from UK, so had to use adapter. I thought it's the case, but it has also been something with temperatures, I couldn't backup the pictures because the system showed me it's too hot. I hope that was the issue.
I just swith to Android 13 there are ossue with battery . please fix it .you guys are doing great work