Question Throttling with Game Turbo - Xiaomi 12X

Hi team.
Is anyone experiencing overheating issues while gaming with Game Turbo on?
I got the phone throttle while playing Diablo and Call of Duty with the default in-game settings.
Tried several different Game Turbo configs but none of them makes any difference.
Tried resetting the phone, although it is new, with no luck...
Disabling Game Turbo solves the problem.
Reproduced the issue with 3DMark.
Disabling Game Turbo yields lower but stable results.
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I don't mind the lower graphics but I like the in-game menu Game Turbo provides.
Stock MIUI 13.0.5, Android 12
Game Turbo (Security app) 6.2.3

I had overheating issue while recording the timelapse on the sun.
After 20 minutes of 30-minute timelapse phone stops with overheating message.
I didn't enable performance mode or Game Turbo mode at all.
I think that the phone will work well in normal conditions but if you push it will overheat due small size and not enough room for proper cooling.

have you tried disable joyose app?
Lot of conflict report but many people say it's the culprit.

I debloated my 12X few days ago using this guide - https://lucacesarano.medium.com/xiaomi-super-bloatware-list-2020-db38ace9e9e1

Sub8 said:
I had overheating issue while recording the timelapse on the sun.
After 20 minutes of 30-minute timelapse phone stops with overheating message.
I didn't enable performance mode or Game Turbo mode at all.
I think that the phone will work well in normal conditions but if you push it will overheat due small size and not enough room for proper cooling.
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the phone doesn't overheat and throttle while playing without Game Turbo, despite its small size;
perhaps the sun heated up your phone additionally

dzhelyazkov said:
the phone doesn't overheat and throttle while playing without Game Turbo, despite its small size;
perhaps the sun heated up your phone additionally
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very likely the sun heated the phone, but at the same time I recorded the same timelapse with A52S and had no problem with overheating

fallengt said:
have you tried disable joyose app?
Lot of conflict report but many people say it's the culprit.
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People say that I may brick my phone if I remove Joyoce (disable button is grayed out...)
Tried updating it instead to latest version - the heating problem persists.

Updated Game Turbo (Security App) to latest version.
Tried even the Chinese one.
The issue still persists.

Anyone knows a proven way to submit the issue to Xiaomi?
Did that via the Feedback app, but I am sceptic about it.

dzhelyazkov said:
People say that I may brick my phone if I remove Joyoce (disable button is grayed out...)
Tried updating it instead to latest version - the heating problem persists.
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I disable Joyoce, and didn't brick my phone. I even provided link few posts above with a guide.

Here are my results. I don't see any difference.
Turbo onTurbo off

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Here are my results. I don't see any difference.
Turbo onTurbo offView attachment 5715881View attachment 5715883
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Yeah, your phone doesn't seem to throttle.
Will debloat mine, including the Joyose removal, as you suggested.
Will post results after that.
In the meantime is your phone stock?
Any further suggestions?

dzhelyazkov said:
Yeah, your phone doesn't seem to throttle.
Will debloat mine, including the Joyose removal, as you suggested.
Will post results after that.
In the meantime is your phone stock?
Any further suggestions?
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The phone is stock, default EU version. Just debloated. I am planning to unlock the bootloader and install Xiaomi.eu, but that will wait a little bit.
I didn't have any issues with debloating so I presume you will be fine. Of course, debloat the phone at your own risk.
I usually don't use the phone for gaming so I don't know what to do in that part.
I use DND and power save mode overnight, not that this will help you, but it might save a little battery time.
Also, I tried to play Diablo Immortal for a few hours and didn't experience any issues. The phone got warmer, but that's it.

de-bloated the phone - all apps from the suggested list were removed, including Joyose, although some were not even installed;
the good thing is that everything seems fine after the de-bloat;
the bad - my phone still throttles...
Security and Battery and performance apps updated and all data cleared;
rebooted;
Edit: I enabled the Perf Optimization option in Turbo (disabled by default), and hallelujah - no throttling

That is great to hear!

The issue re-appeared a couple of weeks after the initial fix...
No auto updates.
No Joyose app.
Disabling Game Turbo (with Battery and perf app data wipe) is the only fix so far...
Will update relevant apps and will post results soon.

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[Q] PowerManagerService wakelock

I am monitoring my battery through BetterBatteryStatus. I see that the PowerManagerService kernel wakelock is keeping my phone from going to sleep. It keeps the phone on for nearly 120 mins in a day. Any idea of what that could be? I suspect that it is due to the Smart Stay feature of Galaxy S3 and I just disabled it now.
I'm getting this on CM 10.1, so no power stay. Wondering what it is too though.
PowerManagerService is basically a catch-all for partial wakelocks (wakelocks requested by non system apps). To see which apps are actually requesting the wakelocks, go to the Partial Wakelocks screen.
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PowerManagerService is basically a catch-all for partial wakelocks (wakelocks requested by non system apps). To see which apps are actually requesting the wakelocks, go to the Partial Wakelocks screen.
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Is there any way to drill down this service and detect what exactly is draining the battery?
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Is there any way to drill down this service and detect what exactly is draining the battery?
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Use Better Battery Stats. instead of looking at the Kernel Wakelocks, switch it to partial wakelocks, and if I understand correctly, the sum of the partial wakelocks is effectively the powermanagementservice wakelock
Just wanted to say that i too had a lot of partial wakelocks draining battery on my SGS3 CM11 (using ART) but I've managed to solve the problem via cleaning the cache in settings->storage. Since then, the CPU is awaken only 19% of time and my batt last 5/6 days with WiFi, Now etc.. (I have a 7000mh zerolemon)
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Caoe said:
Just wanted to say that i too had a lot of partial wakelocks draining battery on my SGS3 CM11 (using ART) but I've managed to solve the problem via cleaning the cache in settings->storage. Since then, the CPU is awaken only 19% of time and my batt last 5/6 days with WiFi, Now etc.. (I have a 7000mh zerolemon)
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Have you seen any benefits by switching to ART?
If I clean the cache, what will it delete? Will I lose all my App settings and game levels? I have about 54Mb in there.
Aitch said:
Have you seen any benefits by switching to ART?
If I clean the cache, what will it delete? Will I lose all my App settings and game levels? I have about 54Mb in there.
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Don't worry you won't lose any important data.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
Florad77 said:
Don't worry you won't lose any important data.
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I just tried clearing and a message came up saying "Security policy restricts clearing of this app's cache."
Is this normal? How can I find out which app is causing the problem?
I have a Samsung galaxy note 2 and every time I lock lock my phone it suddenly turns right back on. It's been happening for two days now. I've tried factory reset and hard reset.. nothing seems to work. Looked at several forums but none seem to help either. Use wake lock app and it says this ..see attachment
Same here with various audio partial wakelocks that add up to 12 days of kernel wakelocks. This started when I upgraded to:
gapps-kk-20140606 & cm-11-20140611-snapshot-m7-snapshot kernel 3.0101-cyanogenmod-g329d6a1 build03 #1
I have gmail sync disabled but contacts sync on. I notice CM have added apollo to the lockscreen so this could be a bug I need to search for
This amount of Power Manager Display and Wakelocks especially are to damn hi, can any1 help me, I'm on HTC10 nougat, Ice, clean slate.
kmry said:
This amount of Power Manager Display and Wakelocks especially are to damn hi, can any1 help me, I'm on HTC10 nougat, Ice, clean slate.
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@kmry Gave you resolved your battery drain issue?
I'm on HTC 10 and have the same issue with huge amounts of wake locks. The device basically never goes into deep sleep.
Meshok said:
@kmry Gave you resolved your battery drain issue?
I'm on HTC 10 and have the same issue with huge amounts of wake locks. The device basically never goes into deep sleep.
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I move away from the htc10 years ago And you should
kmry said:
I move away from the htc10 years ago And you should
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Why should we move away from HTC 10?
Meshok said:
Why should we move away from HTC 10?
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even tough i still love HTC (had de m7, m8, 10) there are better, cheaper, wonderfull phones on the new and second hand market right now, im on pixel 2 xl, and plan to stand by it till maybe pixel 5 if google decide to get their **** together.
kmry said:
there are better, cheaper, wonderfull phones
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What do mean by 'better' and 'wonderfull' specifically?

Method to unlock 90fps on games which supports high refresh frame

Hi guys!
I understand some of the people who realised that games which support higher refresh, but OnePlus was capped to 60fps for massive games, this is ridiculous. Before I provide solutions to unlock 90fps, let me share some thoughts about how I discovered that games were capped to 60fps!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.razer.cortex&hl=en just provided new features to able shows FPS, but I discovered that while I playing Dead Trigger 2 with max settings, the phone shows 60fps. PUBG China version able to running with 90fps without stress!
Image below is Dead Trigger 2 which capped 60fps by OnePlus:
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Below is PUBG China version:
So I suspected that OnePlus done something for it.
So I tried jOnePlus Tools [adb/root], and Force 90Hz:
And... volia! Full video link showing many games finally runs 90fps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIT0yBCPwis
If anyone doesn't trust the video above, you may try the app that I found to Force 90hz for your OnePlus device, witness it for yourself. I understand force 90hz on gaming will cause battery drain, but we have Warp Charge which still retains fast charging speed while gaming, so who cares?
I hope the OnePlus team developer can do something about frame limited issues on massive games.
Credits: jOnePlus Tools [adb/root]
Games list which supports high refresh rate: https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/09/15/android-games-phones-high-frame-rates-90-120fps/
All apps show 89-90fps. I play GTA SA and Razer show 89-90fps, but game have max 30fps.
deszczuXS said:
All apps show 89-90fps. I play GTA SA and Razer show 89-90fps, but game have max 30fps.
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That's because those games you tested are default at 30fps.
Refer the list of games which supports high-refresh rate from my OP.
maple_mak said:
That's because those games you tested are default at 30fps.
Refer the list of games which supports high-refresh rate from my OP.
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Are there quality differences in the graphics? It is worse or the same?
What about the battery consumption?
Boardcdd said:
Are there quality differences in the graphics? It is worse or the same?
What about the battery consumption?
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Become smoother and more responsive while gaming. For battery, getting more consumption.
This app suck. Cortex always show 90fps...
I know this is a old thread but is this still a issue on op7t? Also does this trick actually work or does it just force the screen to stay at 90hz but game still runs at 60?
ngagephone said:
I know this is a old thread but is this still a issue on op7t? Also does this trick actually work or does it just force the screen to stay at 90hz but game still runs at 60?
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This trick works, watch the video from OP.
For stay at 90Hz but game still runs at 60Hz, just change to Auto 90Hz (from jOnePlusTools) or set to 90Hz from Settings App, because that's phone's default settings.
maple_mak said:
This trick works, watch the video from OP.
For stay at 90Hz buy game still runs at 60Hz, no need to change anything because the phone's default settings already did it.
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Hi thanks for reply... Yeah I don't have the op7t I'm using the X2 Pro so can't use the app.... We have the same issue and was mainly curious to see if game updates or system updates sorted the issue.
Does you now is there any different from force 90Hz by using ADB command ?
Is this same as this... and what actually is show in phone Settings?
adb shell settings put global oneplus_screen_refresh_rate 0
Can you test both metods? Tnx
I was able to see the 'force 90hz' and 'refresh rate' option in the 'app' untill i updated to ob2 on my 7t.
Anyway fixes ?
nevermind, fixed it. i was using pixel 4 props and that's why couldn't see the option
Thankyou for the answers love to read the point of views from the different peoples here also

General OOS 11.2.6.6 Release : What are your opinions about it.

Sorry If there's already some talks about that on different topics, but I find easier to talk about this latest release on a centralised one.
My findings are that Oplus updated the gamebar which now takes more onscreen space, but is now easier to use
The second one is a real thermal behavior change : I used to flash Omega Kernel on 11.2.5.5 and quickly the o+ 9Pro stabilized under 42/43°C . On the latest OOs build with stock kernel, I'm now @ 37-38°C after 30 min of playing the same game. 5-6 degres gained is pretty a good upgrade.
I'll check what are the photo behavior changes as I've done few reproductible raw photos to test, and see how the white balance upgrades are this week end
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You mean the stock 6.6 kernel is better than the omega kernel?
Fre$h said:
Sorry If there's already some talks about that on different topics, but I find easier to talk about this latest release on a centralised one.
My findings are that Oplus updated the gamebar which now takes more onscreen space, but is now easier to use
The second one is a real thermal behavior change : I used to flash Omega Kernel on 11.2.5.5 and quickly the o+ 9Pro stabilized under 42/43°C . On the latest OOs build with stock kernel, I'm now @ 37-38°C after 30 min of playing the same game. 5-6 degres gained is pretty a good upgrade.
I'll check what are the photo behavior changes as I've done few reproductible raw photos to test, and see how the white balance upgrades are this week endView attachment 5328463
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Omega is also updated for 11.2.6.6 now, would recommend you install that , but ya 6.6 update did make some noticable changes
PKkeys said:
You mean the stock 6.6 kernel is better than the omega kernel?
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I deeply can't say that comparing two different iteration of kernel. But it appears to me O+ finally made some progress concerning power and heat behaviour.
I will for sure flash omega kernel as I did with every releases, but I'm happy to see that vanilla stock kernel is working better than ever
My battery life dramatically improved with the .6.6 update. Granted the phone is still new for me, but I went from ~4h SOT every day to 6h+ yesterday
dkcats3 said:
My battery life dramatically improved with the .6.6 update. Granted the phone is still new for me, but I went from ~4h SOT every day to 6h+ yesterday
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With stock kernel ?
Fre$h said:
With stock kernel ?
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I'm running Omega, but I was running omega before so although I'm sure Omega helps battery, it was still not great before the update. The new changes he made to reduce watermarking may have been a factor, and I also disabled RAM optimization in Oneplus settings which I'm pretty sure helped.
TY for the explanation :=)
Noticed that the oneplus contacts apk won't work with the upgrade. Have to fall back to the original Google contacts apk.
Edit: Got this version to work. https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/onepl...144013-75a9639-android-apk-download/download/
hallo dare said:
Noticed that the oneplus contacts apk won't work with the upgrade. Have to fall back to the original Google contacts apk.
Edit: Got this version to work. https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/onepl...144013-75a9639-android-apk-download/download/
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Mine came with only the google contacts pre-installed
dkcats3 said:
Mine came with only the google contacts pre-installed
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He said OP contacts apk, meaning he downloaded it as an apk himself, all came with only google contact preinstalled.
Pretty good
Guess I'm going to have to give Omega a try then after I update looks like the new update is worth it finally
I dont know ... I still get some sketchy network connections.. All of a sudden, I'll get 10 notifications at once.
Camera .. still have a focus issue. Certain areas are perfectly focused and others are not sharp. Like a bokeh effect.
steve841 said:
I dont know ... I still get some sketchy network connections.. All of a sudden, I'll get 10 notifications at once.
Camera .. still have a focus issue. Certain areas are perfectly focused and others are not sharp. Like a bokeh effect.
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The notification thing is most likely due to Oneplus's "Intelligent control" for battery saving. It may be "optimizing power usage" too aggressively for your apps. Go to the power settings for each app with the issue individually and change it to "do not optimize" to ensure you get notifications on time

Question adaptive battery

Is adaptive battery doing good for yall? I'm sometimes confused by it because I notice the power saving is on sometimes while using my phone at a usual time I normally do.
I have yet to see power saving mode on while I'm sleeping. I go to bed about the same time every night but wake up at different times.
I even check to see if power saving is on when I wake up to use the bathroom to find that it's not on.
What is going on lol.
It is junk on my Note 10+'s. I never use it as it will cause erratic behavior and nol increase battery life.
Should've nothing to do with the power saving mode.
I like this explanation:
The feature aims to predict the app you’re going to use and only allow those frequently-used apps to run in the background. The apps you rarely or never use will have a strict level of restrictions to help you save battery life.
The Adaptive Battery feature improves over time, as it learns how often you use your apps. When the feature has picked up how often you use your apps, it will place them in App Standby Buckets. These buckets are Active, Working Set, Frequent, Rare, and Never.
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From: https://www.maketecheasier.com/adaptive-battery-android-longer-battery-life/
Swaddy said:
Should've nothing to do with the power saving mode.
I like this explanation:
From: https://www.maketecheasier.com/adaptive-battery-android-longer-battery-life/
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It doesn't.
To see if global power management is active, go to Developer options>standby apps. If it's not active all bucket states will show as active and can't be altered (state seems to be changable but doesn't keep).
This is Google software and unless you want your Android to be tripping over buckets, don't use it! The concept sounds real witty and clever with cool buzz words but *surprise* it never worked right
It will however cause erratic behaviors and user anger issues. May increase battery consumption too.
mahiraman said:
... I notice the power saving is on sometimes while using my phone at a usual time I normally do.....
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Found this today: "Adaptive power saving" under Battery and device care -> 3-dot-menu -> Automation
Turn Power saving on and off automatically based on your usage patterns.
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Swaddy said:
Found this today: "Adaptive power saving" under Battery and device care -> 3-dot-menu -> Automation
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Yeah, all of these are trouble makers... not needed to optimize.
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Developer options>standby apps, if global power management is off, this is how it will look. Bucket states can not be altered when global power management is disabled.
I meant this one:
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I meant this one:
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If it's altering the bucket settings as shown in my last post, you'll have the same issues. Erratic behaviors and may not save battery even after it's adapted.
blackhawk said:
If it's altering the bucket settings as shown in my last post, you'll have the same issues. Erratic behaviors and may not save battery even after it's adapted.
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I have the same settings as you, and all my apps are active. I try changing them but it doesn't stick
EDIT: never mind I was confused and worked it out, had to turn on adaptive battery to be able to change them from active
skinza said:
I have the same settings as you, and all my apps are active. I try changing them but it doesn't stick
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That's how it's suppose to be; global power management is disabled!
When it's active you can alter the bucket states.
I played with for weeks with it enabled and altering their states does nothing noticeable, maybe because the N10+ ram is very fast even with a very high work load.
Invariably though when global power management is active erratic behaviors like bluetooth cut outs prevail. No increase in battery life, even the opposite... and even after 2+ weeks nothing but trouble. The N10+ runs far better without it once hand optimized!
I'm on the S22u, and it works as advertised.
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I'm on the S22u, and it works as advertised.
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Time will tell...
kewlzter said:
I'm on the S22u, and it works as advertised.
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How did it go? I activated on my Fold 4 for routines with power saving features are not working. I do see an increased of battery life tho
What lol

Question Experience any bugs on the Vivo X80 Pro? Let's share and help each other!

So the few of us that bought this phone so far probably encountered some bugs here and there.
Let's share them and try to help each other, or even make Vivo aware of it.
1) Not Vivo exclusive, but the LTPO 3.0 display never drops to 1hz for me.
I've read it happens on S22 as well, OPPO, ONP phones.
Will update more in the future.
My refresh rate is set at 120hz but why does it still go down to as low as 10? Shouldn't it remain 120 no matter what since that's where I set it?
That's how LTPO works, in order to save battery as well.
You barely notice it though, i also set 120hz and i don't feel when it gets down.
set light mode and brightness more than 70% and screen will go 1hz at still.
problems - a lot of apps crashes/not start. diablo immortal not working at all
MrDiegoSPB said:
set light mode and brightness more than 70% and screen will go 1hz at still.
problems - a lot of apps crashes/not start. diablo immortal not working at all
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From 10hz to 1hz probably won't make much difference anyway.
As for Diablo immortal, it works great here no crashes at all.
Have you tried clearing the cache out?
Derpling said:
That's how LTPO works, in order to save battery as well.
You barely notice it though, i also set 120hz and i don't feel when it gets down.
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But isn't that what smart switch is for? Why have the option for smart switch, 60, 120 if it'll always switch anyway? I feel it's what's causing the stutters even when I'm just scrolling
you have global rom (funtouch) or CN Origin?
Diablo works fine when i got device (OriginOS) but after last update of firmware a lot of apps wont work now
enyaj said:
But isn't that what smart switch is for? Why have the option for smart switch, 60, 120 if it'll always switch anyway? I feel it's what's causing the stutters even when I'm just scrolling
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You are right, the stutters are due to LPTO 3.0 and the way Vivo implanted it.
They might fix it, but we need to ask them.
Derpling said:
You are right, the stutters are due to LPTO 3.0 and the way Vivo implanted it.
They might fix it, but we need to ask them.
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Yeah I hope they do release a fix. Not that it's a deal breaker but I'm just used to smooth scrolling with my Pixel phone
Well let them know then.
I'll open a ticket.
For me (CN Version) Samsung health is not working. Anyone else has the same Problem ?
Hi! i have and x80 pro cn version and i cant unistall the pdf reader that comes with the phone. I try to use the ones that comes with the google drive, or another and simply doesnt let me and its annoying.Anyone has the same problem? because the ones that come with the phone its in chinesse and i dont understand nothing.
Help! thanks!! i think that the solution is disable via ADB but i dont know how or which app is it.
Anyone knows a solution for google assistant? Everytime I start the phone new, i have to set Google as my Standard App for speech assistance. Its kind of annoying me
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Hi! i have and x80 pro cn version and i cant unistall the pdf reader that comes with the phone. I try to use the ones that comes with the google drive, or another and simply doesnt let me and its annoying.Anyone has the same problem? because the ones that come with the phone its in chinesse and i dont understand nothing.
Help! thanks!! i think that the solution is disable via ADB but i dont know how or which app is it.
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Have you solved it yet?
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Anyone knows a solution for google assistant? Everytime I start the phone new, i have to set Google as my Standard App for speech assistance. Its kind of annoying me
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What version you have?
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What version you have?
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Chinese snapdragon Version
Just curious, one question to the owners of funtouch os: do you have google lens integrated into your camera app enabling a barcode scan?
I do not find any possibility to do that with the global (origin os, Chinese) version. Apparently one needs an extra barcode scanning app...
ZarW said:
Just curious, one question to the owners of funtouch os: do you have google lens integrated into your camera app enabling a barcode scan?
I do not find any possibility to do that with the global (origin os, Chinese) version. Apparently one needs an extra barcode scanning app...
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You can scan barcodes in Jovi Vision.
Camera -> More -> Jovi Vision.
But I think only chinese barcodes are supported.
It didn't work for any euro barcode I tried.
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