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Hey XDA!
I come from an around 2 years-old Nexus 4 and SoT there wasn't usually able to get above 3 hours. I bought my Nexus 5X around 5 months ago and the first month or weeks I had 5-6 hours of SoT (extremely pleased)! I was running stock & unrooted at this point.
Recently, however, I have been getting no more than 3 hours of SoT again. I rooted and decrypted my phone exactly 1 week after receiving it and I have been using Chorma since then.
My set-up and usage is listed below. Please tell me if this is what everybody gets or I should really look for a fix.
Specifications:
ROM: Chroma ROM (latest)
Kernel: Franco Kernel R5 (latest)
Kernel setup: VomerTweaks for max. battery (which by the way made no difference at all)
Apps that might be battery killers: Facebook, Messanger, Snapchat, Skype (all just running in background)
Wakelocks: none
Usage:
I charge it overnight. I wake up and go to school with 100%. I have Wi-Fi on ALL THE TIME (could it be the big problem?). I occasionally check my phone for notifications, browse a bit between classes, with zero gaming and no heavy usage whatsoever.
Thank you!
if you have scan for wifi ON in location settings.. turn that off
Look for a fix - my stock unrooted Nexus 5x averages overall 13-14%/hr drain screen on and 1-2%/hr screen off (so with heavy use 6-7 hrs SOT is achievable). Wifi is off when away from home but background scanning is on (my automation app uses presence of certain SSIDs as a location proxy for work etc). Location services are on Battery Saving by default. Adaptive brightness.
ViRb3 said:
Hey XDA!
I come from an around 2 years-old Nexus 4 and SoT there wasn't usually able to get above 3 hours. I bought my Nexus 5X around 5 months ago and the first month or weeks I had 5-6 hours of SoT (extremely pleased)! I was running stock & unrooted at this point.
Recently, however, I have been getting no more than 3 hours of SoT again. I rooted and decrypted my phone exactly 1 week after receiving it and I have been using Chorma since then.
My set-up and usage is listed below. Please tell me if this is what everybody gets or I should really look for a fix.
Specifications:
ROM: Chroma ROM (latest)
Kernel: Franco Kernel R5 (latest)
Kernel setup: VomerTweaks for max. battery (which by the way made no difference at all)
Apps that might be battery killers: Facebook, Messanger, Snapchat, Skype (all just running in background)
Wakelocks: none
Usage:
I charge it overnight. I wake up and go to school with 100%. I have Wi-Fi on ALL THE TIME (could it be the big problem?). I occasionally check my phone for notifications, browse a bit between classes, with zero gaming and no heavy usage whatsoever.
Thank you!
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Dont charge it overnight, its bad for the phone and the charger. Use naptime by franco and enforce doze settings. Apply some governor tweaks that suits your usage.
dpj52190 said:
if you have scan for wifi ON in location settings.. turn that off
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Didn't change a thing. I am proceeding with a full wipe now.
If your battery was good and then became bad we can assume something you changed in that time is the cause. Most commonly one or more of the apps you installed, specifically any that run as background services as seen in settings > Developer options > running services.
Otherwise it could possibly be related to a setting such as if you enabled smartlocks or trusted voice during that time, etc.
Lastly your usage could have changed. Were you using the device mostly at home before and now you're using at school? Large buildings such as schools and work places can often block signals and cause the phone to work over time to perform even basic tasks like syncing emails. My average SoT drops from about 5 to about 2 hours in my workplace for instance, and the graph is mostly green and I have plenty of "bars" but those don't tell the whole story.
bblzd said:
If your battery was good and then became bad we can assume something you changed in that time is the cause. Most commonly one or more of the apps you installed, specifically any that run as background services as seen in settings > Developer options > running services.
Otherwise it could possibly be related to a setting such as if you enabled smartlocks or trusted voice during that time, etc.
Lastly your usage could have changed. Were you using the device mostly at home before and now you're using at school? Large buildings such as schools and work places can often block signals and cause the phone to work over time to perform even basic tasks like syncing emails. My average SoT drops from about 5 to about 2 hours in my workplace for instance, and the graph is mostly green and I have plenty of "bars" but those don't tell the whole story.
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I have no services running. I am giving a plain stock install (literally zero apps) and CyanogenMod as well a try now. My usage didn't change a bit for this whole year so I have no clue. Could I have damaged my battery from too much flashing?
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Look for a fix - my stock unrooted Nexus 5x averages overall 13-14%/hr drain screen on and 1-2%/hr screen off (so with heavy use 6-7 hrs SOT is achievable). Wifi is off when away from home but background scanning is on (my automation app uses presence of certain SSIDs as a location proxy for work etc). Location services are on Battery Saving by default. Adaptive brightness.
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How the f is this possible? I get 25% drain in 1 hour of SoT. Adaptive off, sync off, location off, LTE on, screen on 25%. I can maybe get 4 h sot with latest 6.0.1 update. Unrooted, full stock, bought the phone 3 days ago Do I have a bad batch or what?
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How the f is this possible? I get 25% drain in 1 hour of SoT. Adaptive off, sync off, location off, LTE on, screen on 25%. I can maybe get 4 h sot with latest 6.0.1 update. Unrooted, full stock, bought the phone 3 days ago Do I have a bad batch or what?
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Lte uses a lot of battery compared to Wi-Fi.
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This is a general discussion thread. You can share your Current setup of Robin, it would be helpful for us to know which ROM can be used as Our daily driver.
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I'm currently using OmniRom's last build with Magisk module cross-breeder lite edition.
It's giving me Quite decent performance and Battery life.
Normally on continuous usage, it lasts almost 5-6 hrs on single charge.
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If anyone getting a better Battery life, don't hesitate to post below.?
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Thanks for sharing, I cannot give screenshots for everything here. I might have them but have to dig into the folder of screenshots but for now here is my battery experience over all.
I have used PA, Carbon and Omni extensively. So everything below is not a ROM review but its battery usage over all with them.
P.S. : For all ROMs, I use Greenify and Doze mode (within ROM, if not available then via NapTime).
PA for me has always been close to stock nothing great maybe a bit better. But because of its roaming issue I stopped using it. And switched to carbon.
Carbon is far better than PA and has very little standby/idle drain but it started giving me a weird 20-25% battery cut off issue and device used to shut down randomly anytime below 25% so I switched to Omni.
Omni has fared pretty well for me. Unlike other ROMs I get consistent battery life i.e. 3-4hrs SOT over a period of 10-15hrs. The ROM seems far more stable and there aren't any random battery drains. Omni sometimes behaves a bit erratic when using new camera apps i.e. first few times it would drain battery a lot but later it works fine. Its the device or ROM I don't know.
For Duo video calls it isn't so great after 30-40mins of call the battery is down by 30% maybe. But that is fine I guess the video call is on data too. So Robin isn't so great for that sort of heavy use in general I guess.
Here is my most heavy use day (on all ROMs) for which 10-12hrs is most the device can sustain.
Morning (for the device) starts at about 6:30-7am.
Its day starts with 96-100%; no matter how much juice it has I make sure I unplug anywhere above 95%.
My usage isn't heavy but I use data(3G/4G) 90% of the time,
Location/GPS is ON for about 40-80mins,
Voice calls ~30-90mins in total, (Most are cellular, 5-10mins VoIP calls)
60-90mins podcast/music, Podcasts which I listen are downloaded before but music is streamed via NewPipe ,
Mail, Twitter, Excel, Pocket app, Camera is used in between randomly.
I don't watch much YouTube on the device maybe a couple of 2-3mins clips, I mostly scroll YouTube to add them to watch later for watching on desktop,
SOT ~3hrs
I have to plug the device by 6-7pm with all that usage. Because by that time its about 15%. And for me Robin at 15% means about 10-15mins of use.
For not so heavy use days the device lasts from 7am to 9pm with SOT of ~3-3.5hrs + voice calls of 30-60mins + 40-60mins GPS/location.
Since Android N I haven't touched 4hrs+ SOT over a period of 10-15hrs of usage sadly.
That only happens if I unplug the device and use it continuously for 4-5hrs reading maybe with no waste in idle drain or data or wifi or push notifs etc. But that isn't a case of regular use for me so I will disregard that.
I have recently started using interactive governors like GlassFish and FairPark but can't say they have helped much. Standby/Idle drain is as low as 1-2% over 4-5hrs.
If you are getting 4hrs+ SOT over a longer charge time of 10-12hrs, I am all ears and want to know what different do you do.
I use Omni with Unicornblood kernel and Hawktail profile in Ex Kernel manager. I also use greenify and naptime. I'd say on average I can get between 3 and 4 hours SOT. On the lower end will be days where I'm out and about a lot so I'm on data, lots of idling, random browsing, reddit, messenger, etc. Usually have spotify running in my car through bluetooth. On the higher end will be days where I'm playing on my phone most of the day, with little screen off time, I can probably push over 4 hours on those days.
Today I've been off the charger for 10 1/2 hours, I have 1 1/2 hours of SOT. I spoke on the phone for about 15 minutes, browsed the internet a bit, some instagram, messaging, etc. and I still have 54% left.
I've tried Paranoid Android and LOS.
With PA the battery on my Robin drains like crazy and I noticed some heat problems as well.
As for LOS, it gives me quite decent battery life but had issues with the power button, the phone struggles to wake sometimes.
Should I try Omni then?
Luisalejandroqi said:
I've tried Paranoid Android and LOS.
With PA the battery on my Robin drains like crazy and I noticed some heat problems as well.
As for LOS, it gives me quite decent battery life but had issues with the power button, the phone struggles to wake sometimes.
Should I try Omni then?
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Sadly there is no perfect ROM every ROM has some issue. The only question is if you can live with that issue.
The only reason for me to stop using PA was it won't work on roaming. But if PA has been stable and battery drain was the only issue try using Greenify and Naptime. The combination of both can drastically bring down your battery drain. And then use some interactive cpu governors aimed for battery life it should bring down drain to as low as 1-2%.
If you are looking for a different better ROM to try then surely try omni, Omni has been great for me so far and has no major issues as such.
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Sadly there is no perfect ROM every ROM has some issue. The only question is if you can live with that issue.
The only reason for me to stop using PA was it won't work on roaming. But if PA has been stable and battery drain was the only issue try using Greenify and Naptime. The combination of both can drastically bring down your battery drain. And then use some interactive cpu governors aimed for battery life it should bring down drain to as low as 1-2%.
If you are looking for a different better ROM to try then surely try omni, Omni has been great for me so far and has no major issues as such.
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Omni, however, doesn't have Qualcomm's hotplugging solution, so both big cores are always on all the time and draining battery whenever your screen is on. Gandalf also messed something up with the kernel sources and broke NFC, requiring you to flash a kernel from an Omni weekly from around June-ish or July-ish to restore that functionality.
If you're patient enough, javelinanddart and Sultanxda will soon figure out how to fix the wake-on-plug lag in LineageOS. Hopefully, they'll also start on figuring out the power-button-not-waking-device issue afterwards.
EDIT: oops. Though javelinanddart proooobably found what might be causing the power-button-not-waking-device issue? Haven't had it happen on his LOS 15.1 unofficials yet so...
I am currently using Lineage 14.1-14.1-20180321 and eagerly awaiting the 'official' release of 15.1. I typically do not update to every weekly build. I usually watch the change logs and update only when the new security patches are released. Provided that update is stable (i.e. fast, everything works, no crashes) I will continue on with that build until the next security patch is released. More often than not, there are no issues, as I have found Lineage to be stable and fast.
I am running non-rooted, and I re-locked my bootloader. As a result, Google Pay is working well, without the use of Magisk.
I run Nova Prime launcher, and do not have a vast amount of apps installed:
Music - Google Play Music, Spotify, Amazon Music
Email and Calendar - Outlook, GMail, Google Calendar
Assistant - Google Assistant
Office Suite - Docs, Sheets, Drive, MS One Drive, Word, Excel, Google Keep, One Note
Camera - Stock lineage OS camera, Snapseed (editing)
Messaging - stock AOSP / Lineage OS messaging app
Video - YouTube, Netflix, Hulu (I only use YouTube to be honest... have the other two because of Chromecasting)
Misc - Google Home, Amazon Kindle
I list all those apps to say that given the relative few apps I use, I have all day battery life, for the most part. I am not a heavy user, but I check email multiple times a day, as well send/receive a LOT of MMS/SMS messages throughout the day. I generally only watch video on my phone (YouTube mostly) at home, and I generally cast it to my TV so that the Chromecast does the heavy lifting.
Overall, I have been very happy with Lineage. I finally settled on Lineage after growing disgruntled with AOSPA. The stock ROM (I gave it a good, honest shot at one point) could not cut it because of the lack of stability, heat issues, Bluetooth issues, and no updates.
I have only run into one issue (on a previous build) where by no doing of my own, the screen went blank on a full battery and would not turn on. I though the phone was essentially bricked. Held down power + volume down for 60 seconds (actually had to do this a few different times) and all was resolved. Still do not know why this happened.
Hopefully this helps someone...
@sfbest23
Thank you for replying with so much detail. But a bit of numbers would help in terms of battery life you get from your usage and setup.
Typical phone idle time and SOT. Gives a rough idea of the battery drain in standby.
I am running non-rooted, and I re-locked my bootloader.
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I am more curious about this. So after flashing LOS you flash back the stock recovery and lock the bootloader? But when you flash back TWRP to install the updated LOS do you lose all your data again or what? Can you tell me the process you follow, I would love to do it but I find backing up and restoring everything for every update is tiresome and a little annoying. Even if one opts to only update for major releases once a month or few months I am not a fan of backup and restore process quite often.
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@sfbest23
Thank you for replying with so much detail. But a bit of numbers would help in terms of battery life you get from your usage and setup.
Typical phone idle time and SOT. Gives a rough idea of the battery drain in standby.
I am more curious about this. So after flashing LOS you flash back the stock recovery and lock the bootloader? But when you flash back TWRP to install the updated LOS do you lose all your data again or what? Can you tell me the process you follow, I would love to do it but I find backing up and restoring everything for every update is tiresome and a little annoying. Even if one opts to only update for major releases once a month or few months I am not a fan of backup and restore process quite often.
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I do not have any detailed battery metrics, but I will start tracking this and get back to you.
Regarding your question about re-locking the bootloader... I am still running TWRP, just with a locked bootloader. I did not flash back to the stock recovery. After unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP and ROM of choice, it is simply a 'fastboot oem lock' command. I cannot remember off hand, but I do believe that the OS was reset when I did that.
My setup. Works very well. I think omni is the best ROM available.
EAT_CHICKEN said:
My setup. Works very well. I think omni is the best ROM available.
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Same ROM version, same Magisk version but I still get the SafetyNet API Error.
/root said:
Same ROM version, same Magisk version but I still get the SafetyNet API Error.
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Do you have /system modified? Or xposed installed? Those will cause safetynet to fail.
EAT_CHICKEN said:
Do you have /system modified? Or xposed installed? Those will cause safetynet to fail.
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Not using xposed.
Does using EXKM for CPU governors constitute to being a /system modification? Then I guess that would be the cause.
(FOR LG -H930)
Hello,
I want to share the configuration with which I have been more comfortable with this phone. as always the customs roms have their risks
After trying the following roms & kernels:
Stock rom + lg package disabled
Ion Ios Pie
Havoc Os
Crdroid
ResurrectionRemix 7.0
Bootleggers ROM 4.2 Pie
Pixel Experience
I think I've found the configuration that works best for me:
ROM = LiquidRemix 10.0
KERNEL = AK3Tachyon Enhance EAS T110
OPEN GAPPS = Nano version
CAMARAS
GCAM FOR THE WIDE LENS - DAY PHOTOS - PORTRAIT MODE
GCAM - NIGHT PHOTO
OPEN CAMERA FOR VIDEO RECORDING
* the gcams give me problems with the sound in the video recording, so I use this app
MAGISK MODULES
I know it is designed for other stock versions, but the sound is achieved in both speakers, a non-functional camera app will be installed, with no use of it.
AnxiousV30
OTHER MAGISK MODULES
PIX3LIFY
XMLPAK
YOUTUBE VENCED BLACK
WEB BROWSER
MINT BROWSER
DEVICE CONFIGURATION
Inside Settings we have the liquid lounge section, I have configured this to use the mobile with gestures:
Activate the gestures in: Gestures / Edge gestures, there are different options but this is the one that works best for me
In the screen settings I have the background color in black
With this configuration I get the following:
Stability: I have not rebooted or frozen my phone
Speed: Much difference with some other roms based on aosp and above all compared to stock
Battery: Here one of the main reasons, before almost didn't reach 4 hours screen .. now, usually reach 6, great change!
I run the stock US998 20H on my V30, rooted with Magisk, no modules in use. Hardly anything is really customized I suppose, I do use dark mode wherever possible and I do have the Dark G8 Theme installed from the Play Market. My brightness is always set to 50% unless I'm watching videos (75%) or outside (90%) but I never go higher than that - 100% brightness is bad for OLED technology especially wherever pure white is shown so I avoid full brightness always.
I keep my cellular radio off at home because I only use Google Voice - I don't give out my carrier number to anyone (there's only like 3 people + the carrier that have it) and since I'm always on Wi-Fi at home (Gigabit connection) I have absolutely no reason to have that active. Google Voice does all my voice calls, SMS/MMS, Hangouts (SMS), etc so I'm good there.
Typical SOT? 9+ hours on a charge and that is without using Battery Saver, which I never use, and that is also with a charge from about 88% down to 5% give or take a percentage point either way. The other day I actually got almost 12.5 hours of SOT but I spent a lot of time watching some TV shows ("Billions," a fantastic show, and I basically marathoned the entire 1st season so that was most of the screen on time).
I don't use a lot of things running in the background, in fact I tend to close out apps when I have no reason to leave them in the background whether they go idle or not. I have never thought that using apps like Greenify can help since it's yet another program that does use resources and does require background operation - it's just easier to close the apps I'm not using and be done with it and know for a fact they're not consuming battery.
I use Flipboard quite a bit every day, LiveNewsOn for watching MSNBC/CNN occasionally, Google News multiple times a day, Discord and Hangouts for chatting purposes, not a whole lot else really. I don't do "social media" stuff so no Facebook/etc kinda crap. LG Package Disabler Pro (purchased a long time ago) was used after a clean install of the OS to ensure what I don't need to be there and running isn't there and running.
Only phone that's ever given me this kind of battery life - and I plug in to charge once every 2-3 days, seriously - was a Samsung Galaxy S Active 7 with a 4000 mAh battery, I could run that device for 3+ days with 14+ hours of SOT most every single charge and I really do miss it.
Anyway, I do love this V30 for a variety of reasons but that crazy 9+ hours of SOT on a charge is probably my most favorite aspect so far.
Pics or it didn't happen...
First one was from a few weeks ago with ~9.25 hrs/SOT, the second from a few days ago with ~12.5 hrs/SOT, and again, I don't use Battery Saver at all, if I did, or if I lowered the brightness to 50% or less when watching videos, I'd probably go well past 15+ hrs/SOT without breaking a sweat. The ~9.25 hrs/SOT did have me charging it from my laptop's USB port for about 30 minutes, had to plug it in to move some movie files over to the device so that's why you see the slight rise in the middle there, but the ~12.5 hrs/SOT was done straight off the battery, the charge it had when I disconnected from the charger was 89% so, if it had been a full 100% charge, that would more than likely be close to 15 hrs/SOT. Might have to test that sometime and see if a 100% to 5% run could do that much SOT.
No issues with the stock ROM, no crashes, no force closes, performance is great, I have no complaints whatsoever.
Great post. Thanks for sharing your setups, I will give these suggestions a try once I get mine rooted.
Hello.
I bought my S20 few days a go, with device everything is great but, my battery is terrible,
I use it every half hour to see do i have new notifications, messages, new posts on instagram and thats it.
I dont play android games or etc.
But with this minimal usage im losing 50% of battery @ work, and i use phone max 1h SOT in 7h of work time.
I tried Naptime but naptime only save my battery when phone is locked, but when im using phone im losing % very very fast.
My settings: Location , bluetooth, NFC disabled. Facebook in hibernation, and i disabled all bloatware with ADB uninstall.
And im using 120hz.
Normally with my settings on other phones i get very good battery life.
I do not want to root my phone, but is there any solution how to get more battery life on S20?
Thanks
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
A package blocker is more effective for troubleshooting on the fly. I'm running Pie and Q gives you less tools to see what's going on.
Karma Firewall* is useful to lockdown Goggle Play Services* (a known serial offender) and others.
Nonetheless you need to find the troublemakers as you're burning up the battery.
Play with it... this may take a while.
*you lose its logging ability with Q I believe. A major hit if so.
**toggle on/off as needed.
blackhawk said:
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
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I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
Talentooman said:
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
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Unfortunately you'll need to track it down; no one size fits all. You need to figure out which system and 3rd party apks are responsible.
Use what tools are available and ones you can find for that OS.
Even with all syncing disabled on my 10+ Goggle Play Services relentlessly connects 4 times a minute with the internet. Blocking it toned it's battery usage down.
Brave browser is a hog and will run in the background unless forced stopped; closing its window does nothing.
Fun times... Google did nothing to address this and in fact has been making troubleshooting harder with each new OS using security as a ploy.
I ran Kitkat until last year. In 6 years I've never been forced to reload due to malware... bite me Google. Yeah viruses, trojans, etc are real and can/do infect Androids but almost always it's the user's fault. Transparency is what's needed not scoped storage and more user/apk inaccessibility.
Talentooman said:
I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Depends on the device, the firmware and what's loaded including carrier and Sammy junk.
I've tried it every which way and now have about 86 apks blocked. Some like Playstore and Galaxy updates get toggle on as needed which isn't often.
Every time with power management when it was used it seemed to work but within a few days it became the problem with excessive power consumption.
Plus and even worse it will screw up phone functionality constantly and inexplicably at times.
Android will manage power and go into deep sleep with all buckets active; no power management needed... at least on my configuration.
Because of the time and trouble invested as well as trash features like scoped storage I refuse to go to Q. This 10+ will most likely run happily on Pie and many of its factory loaded google apks.
Yes updates can and will screw things up; update one or two at a time, observe.
Having a fast, stable, predictable system that runs well with good battery life and does what you want is all that really matters with Android.
Security is very rarely an issue even on ancient software if you aren't inept.
As is I'm ready to do a full reload if needed, be back and running in 2 hours and 99% fully configured by that day with bare minimal internet connection required.
My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
gilzve said:
My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
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Im still waiting for update..
Talentooman said:
Im still waiting for update..
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Disable all power management except for screen/power mode.
Android does nicely by its self.
The only thing you should have toogled on is fast charging if you use it. Try it.
Once you got it running well be very careful of updates especially firmware. At least wait a while to see if it blows up the phones of others using it.
My phone is usually on idle and not used due to my job. But Im noticing extreme battery consumption even when Im not using it. Never had this issue with other phones. Last night I checked the batter before sleep and it was at 67% at 1 AM, today its 62% at 7 AM so there must be an issue because it should only drain 1 or 2 percents during idle.
In battery settings the top app using the battery is phone idle.
Im on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6 rom but I had the same issue with stop 12.5.3 so I dont think it's because of rom.
I had great battery life with my last phone which was poco x3 nfc with the same settings and apps so it's not because of any third party apps either.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
With AOSP ROMs, I even had worst experience when I installed one of the custom kernels because they somehow didn't put the phone into deep doze correctly. But yeah, the idle consumption is quite high - even on stock Kernel.
Currently I use HavocOS and its stock Kernel - and SuperFreeze (from F-Droid store) to freeze most apps right after screen lock. Idle consumption has dropped to 0.1-0.2%/h as a result. I made a thread some days ago regarding this topic... see here.
Thanks. Im gonna try your guide but it's not the most noob friendly guide I've seen
Just Kidding, thanks for your time.
Oh, my thread wasn't meant to be a guide... I did put it in "Question" like you did, but a mod seems to have moved the thread to "General"
My "solution" is only temporary - at least I hope there are still developers out there who value a low idle drain more than fast charging and benchmark numbers...
esszett said:
... and SuperFreeze (from F-Droid store) to freeze ...
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Sorry for the OT, could it be that the app. is called SuperFreezZ?
Have you noticed any good battery life gains with this app.?
Yeah, sorry, SuperFreezZ: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/superfreeze.tool.android/
For several months I had the problem that from a certain moment, the consumption at idle suddenly increased enormously (from 0.1-0.2 % to 2-3% per hour). Even if I manually forced all apps to stop, In Android's battery info "Android OS" and "Android System" showed up with double-digit percentages. I could only get the phone back to its previous behavior with a restart.
To date, however, it is not clear to me what triggered this. I suspected GCam for a while, then Osmand+, but I couldn't ever confirm that because the problem didn't start whenever I used those programs, just sometimes.
I never found a real solution for this, but SuperFreezZ did.
The best thing I've used for years now is Greenify, its hasn't received an update in more than a year but still works perfectly
Do we need root to use these apps? I remember using greenify before onmy older devices with root but havent used it for a while. Gonna see how much it drops tonight and then try to tweek some things and recheck it tomorrow night.
Weird thing is, I was getting an awesome battery life out of poco x3 nfc, could it be because of the cpu idle? Because that's the only thing that seems different between the 2 devices. (X3 even had an lcd which is supposedly less battery friendly)
Kianush said:
Do we need root to use these apps?
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Yes.
Kianush said:
I was getting an awesome battery life out of poco x3 nfc
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Unfortunately, hardly anyone notices this because most users do exactly what the F3 was designed for: Playing games.
I came from a 2.5 years old F1 and it lasts easily longer than the F3 although it has a smaller battery and a LCD screen... The F3 behaves anything but fully developed. These latest high-end SOCs (870, 888) are really powerful, but unfortunately not equally power-efficient. That's the reason why I throttled the CPU and undervolted the GPU. This dropped the active drain from ~8 %/h to <5 %/h on my device and my usecases.
esszett said:
Yes.
Unfortunately, hardly anyone notices this because most users do exactly what the F3 was designed for: Playing games.
I came from a 2.5 years old F1 and it lasts easily longer than the F3 although it has a smaller battery and a LCD screen... The F3 behaves anything but fully developed. These latest high-end SOCs (870, 888) are really powerful, but unfortunately not equally power-efficient. That's the reason why I throttled the CPU and undervolted the GPU. This dropped the active drain from ~8 %/h to <5 %/h on my device and my usecases.
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Yeah. I used to underclock the cpu on my old phones but I dont know about undervolting. wouldnt it cause issues? I just used 3c toolbox app to set a lower max clock and a lower min clock for cpu cores. I read somewhere that rooting xiaomi.eu rom breaks some functions so I havent rooted it yet. do you have any info on that?
Kianush said:
Yeah. I used to underclock the cpu on my old phones but I dont know about undervolting. wouldnt it cause issues?
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As long you don't push too hard with undervolting, it works quite well. See attached image (it's not mine, but I have oriented to it).
Kianush said:
I just used 3c toolbox app to set a lower max clock and a lower min clock for cpu cores.
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I've never heard of it... This seems to be a powerful tool! Nice!
Kianush said:
I read somewhere that rooting xiaomi.eu rom breaks some functions so I havent rooted it yet. do you have any info on that?
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Konabess doesn't need root, afaik. Extract the boot.img of your ROM and copy it into a folder of your device. Then use Konabess to modify the settings and repack it into a modified boot.img. This file you can flash with TWRP. No guarantee that it works for xiaomi.eu, but it works for AOSP (at least it worked for me).
Kianush said:
My phone is usually on idle and not used due to my job. But Im noticing extreme battery consumption even when Im not using it. Never had this issue with other phones. Last night I checked the batter before sleep and it was at 67% at 1 AM, today its 62% at 7 AM so there must be an issue because it should only drain 1 or 2 percents during idle.
In battery settings the top app using the battery is phone idle.
Im on xiaomi.eu 12.5.6 rom but I had the same issue with stop 12.5.3 so I dont think it's because of rom.
I had great battery life with my last phone which was poco x3 nfc with the same settings and apps so it's not because of any third party apps either.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
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I'm ont he same rom as you and let me explain my experience.
My battery has been insanely good. Even with heavy usage over a period of 4 hours, which included 1.5hrs of SoT and pandora playing though bluetooth all 4 of those hours with dolby and viper enabled. Was at 100 and dropped down to 94%. So It may be an app or setting that you have installed causing problems and draining battery. The only battery saver addition I have installed is Universal GMS doze. Idle time for me It takes me about 5 hours to drop down 1%.
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I'm ont he same rom as you and let me explain my experience.
My battery has been insanely good. Even with heavy usage over a period of 4 hours, which included 1.5hrs of SoT and pandora playing though bluetooth all 4 of those hours with dolby and viper enabled. Was at 100 and dropped down to 94%. So It may be an app or setting that you have installed causing problems and draining battery. The only battery saver addition I have installed is Universal GMS doze. Idle time for me It takes me about 5 hours to drop down 1%.
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Well if there is an app that is causing this, it should be shown in the battery settings. But the only thing that is eating up my battery is phone idle. So it might be a service or something. Im out of options right now unless I find a way to root this rom without facing new problems.... Worst thing with miui is that you cant do things like rooting as easy as other roms.
Btw, would you please tell me the settings and xiaomi.eu version you are on? Im on 12.5.6 stable and using 120hz + vivid color scheme and most of my apps are on blcok background activity except my messaging app. And Im losing battery on phone idle not the screen on time!
Ss below.(dropped from 92 to 82 woh only 30mins screen on time doing nothing but checking xda!) And 7hrs of those 9hrs I was asleep and the phone was on airplane mode + gps off!
You could try BBS or similar apps. Maybe it's an app which prevents the phone to go to deep doze (wakelocks).
BTW: MIUI sucks
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Well if there is an app that is causing this, it should be shown in the battery settings. But the only thing that is eating up my battery is phone idle. So it might be a service or something. Im out of options right now unless I find a way to root this rom without facing new problems.... Worst thing with miui is that you cant do things like rooting as easy as other roms.
Btw, would you please tell me the settings and xiaomi.eu version you are on? Im on 12.5.6 stable and using 120hz + vivid color scheme and most of my apps are on blcok background activity except my messaging app. And Im losing battery on phone idle not the screen on time!
Ss below.(dropped from 92 to 82 woh only 30mins screen on time doing nothing but checking xda!) And 7hrs of those 9hrs I was asleep and the phone was on airplane mode + gps off!
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I switch my screen refresh rate down to 60hz but since your phone is idle it really shouldn't come into play unless you have always on display or turn screen on for notifications.
Rooting this phone is amazingly easy. Takes like 5mins if that. My Mi 9 lite took longer to root then this phone.
As far as an app draining battery, It more then likely not it since you saying phone idle, which in the past people have said if you phone has problems with signal this can drain a battery. For me this has been a major issue. With AT&T service I would loose double the amount of battery over night (I play pandora through out the night when sleeping). Also if you have apps that are heavy internet usage (unsure where you at but things like facebook and messenger drain tons and yet don't register battery drain on most analytics. And since you using a xiaomi.eu rom I know alot of those bg services are disabled or removed.
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I switch my screen refresh rate down to 60hz but since your phone is idle it really shouldn't come into play unless you have always on display or turn screen on for notifications.
Rooting this phone is amazingly easy. Takes like 5mins if that. My Mi 9 lite took longer to root then this phone.
As far as an app draining battery, It more then likely not it since you saying phone idle, which in the past people have said if you phone has problems with signal this can drain a battery. For me this has been a major issue. With AT&T service I would loose double the amount of battery over night (I play pandora through out the night when sleeping). Also if you have apps that are heavy internet usage (unsure where you at but things like facebook and messenger drain tons and yet don't register battery drain on most analytics. And since you using a xiaomi.eu rom I know alot of those bg services are disabled or removed.
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Yeah thanks for the info. I used to root my devices easily by flashing magisk but it seems they have changed the method, though I found the method on a post on xiaomi.eu website and rooted my device.
Tried to lower cpu frequencies a little and use superfreez app. It seems better now but not as good as what you say...
Gonna play with settings a little bit more and wait for another xiaomi.eu stable update to see if it's a bug on this version.
Kianush said:
Yeah thanks for the info. I used to root my devices easily by flashing magisk but it seems they have changed the method, though I found the method on a post on xiaomi.eu website and rooted my device.
Tried to lower cpu frequencies a little and use superfreez app. It seems better now but not as good as what you say...
Gonna play with settings a little bit more and wait for another xiaomi.eu stable update to see if it's a bug on this version.
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Someone made a auto script for it, but you will have to reflash rom and factory reset data. You really shouldn't have to change cpu feqs. Also uploading a screenshot of my last 2 hours. I know its only 21min of SoT but also 2 hours off charger but playing pandora as well as some other app usage but still at 100%
esszett said:
As long you don't push too hard with undervolting, it works quite well. See attached image (it's not mine, but I have oriented to it).
I've never heard of it... This seems to be a powerful tool! Nice!
Konabess doesn't need root, afaik. Extract the boot.img of your ROM and copy it into a folder of your device. Then use Konabess to modify the settings and repack it into a modified boot.img. This file you can flash with TWRP. No guarantee that it works for xiaomi.eu, but it works for AOSP (at least it worked for me).
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Konabess without root won't start, any idea?
thanks
tojdvd said:
Konabess without root won't start, any idea?
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Ah, ok... I thought you could load a separate boot.img - my fault, sorry!
Then you've to have root for Konabess...
Just to show what's possible with HavocOS 4.9 and 12.5.6 EEA firmware, see atached screenshot... It's with the stock kernel of HavocOS, but with the modifications I did mention here.
Running for almost 2 days
~8 hrs SOT (2 hrs of which with 120 Hz and 2 hrs of which with 100 % brightness, otherwise 60 Hz and brightness between 25 and 50 %) and still 50 % battery left.