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Obligatory "What about the Pixel 3?" Thread

I am on a Galaxy S7 and am considering an upgrade to the S9.
At this point the obvious question for me to consider is how it compares to the Pixel 3? Curious if any S9 owners have tried the Pixel 3 for comparison yet?
I love the look of the Galaxy S9 but I have noticed that over time my older Galaxy definitely started to lag more, with battery life deterioration and a lot of "OS Usage" drain going on in the background.
While I dont love the look of the Pixel 3, I have heard that this is where Pixels are strongest: more efficient battery and snappier performance due to pure OS experience.
I know they are new, but if anyone has experiences with both of these great phones, I would love any perspectives!

Going by the problems of the Pixel 3 already, I'd go with the S9.
Bad speakers, camera not saving pictures, very scratch/mark prone rear glass, memory management issues, dropped calls...Pixel 3 isn't a good phone.

I got so pissed off with my multiple pixel 2s that I traded for an S9. I don't trust their quality control at all.

Just need to follow a couple of Android twitter accounts to see just how many bugs the Pixels have, the P2 was full of them and the P3 is following in it's footsteps, even the same bugs from the P2 are in the P3
Would not touch them

Pixel 3 line seems like a problem waiting to happen, and we are hearing about those every day.
The Galaxy s9 Plus is a fantastic phone with so much more then the Pixel 3 XL
You get the full fledged Samsung Super AMOLED panel screen that is an amazing display! Yes Pixel 3 XL uses a Samsung, but It's pretty obviously a lower level panel just by the blue hue we see at an angle view. You do not see that on the s9
Great duel cameras that got an extremely good score at DxOMark, for a reason, it's a top end camera.
SD Card Slot
Headphone Jack
Stereo Speakers
Basically water proof
Wireless charging at 10w on all compatible QI 10w stations, not just the $80 google rip-off charger.
(what, it does a picture screen saver and listens to you? Pfffft!!)
Now, s9 weakness and what to do:
software can be slow, don't use the launcher, get Nova Launcher Prime, turn off auto bixby, use bxActions to remap the button, and Package Disabler Pro + to remove any bloatware left, but I'm telling you most the stuff can be removed and or disabled already. All no root!
DEX is on board and now available though a $19 adapter from Amazon, not that you'll use it but it is pretty nice for at home.
Now what I believe is the biggest and most troubling issue is the pixel's only 4GB's of RAM. That's just not enough!
On my s9 Plus, I run music "Deezer" in the background, going to the duel Bluetooth speakers, while using all my Social Media apps, Instagram, twitter, FB(in browser) Messenger(DISA) and play Lineage 2 Revolution! I toggle back and forth and even keep online in the game.
Pixel just Aint gonna do that!
Oh, and that reminds me, a good question for anyone that has the pix3XL have they set up the duel Bluetooth Speaker connection yet?
I don't mean some third party like JBL, which works okay, but the actual OS that connects to duel BT speakers! Yes Samsung did it!
I really can't stress to you or anyone enough, how much better the Samsung hardware and experience is over this idea that pure is best.
Why be a beta tester up to the point we all get the new Android OS anyways?

Anyone moved from Note 9 to 3XL?

I own a note 9 and think it’s a great phone, great features but the camera lets it down.
I don’t use the spen much at all so that’s wasted.
I have a itch to get a 3XL but not sure if if should due to the issues with speakers, screen burn and video recording (mic). For the price you pay there should not be any of these issues out of the box.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and if you have moved from a note 9 to the 3XL, was it a good move?
Thanks.

I actually had the Note 9 and just switched to the 3 XL. I must say I do not regret it. As much as I love Samsung, I did miss my pixel. The software is just so smooth, plus the camera and crazy call screen feature (which was my main reason) make this thing a beast. I must say the 4GB of RAM is my only downside so far. The battery life is nothing like with the Note9 but I really don't miss it too much. The ability to have working root and magisk is so nice. In the end you gotta see what features you're looking for mostly. I don't have any issues with my speakers or with the video recording but we'll see, I only had this baby for a week or so.

I came from the Note 9 about a month ago and have no regrets. As great as the Note 9 is I am enjoying the 3 XL much more. I had the Pixel 1 for over a year and bounced back and forth from the 2 and Note 8 for a while. The thing that really drove me back to the 3 XL was the camera, it's just so much better than the Note 9 in nearly every way. The zoom on the Note is a bit better but not by much. The only things I do miss is pro mode on the camera and headphone jack. But after using this phone I quickly remembered how great pure Android is with the stock phone and messaging apps along with the unlocked bootloader. The other things that were annoying to me with the Note are the curved screen and the taller aspect ratio it has. It's a beautiful phone but far too fragile for the money.
As for your concerns with the speakers Google has fixed them with the December update. Mine were a bit muffled sounding but sound great now. As for burn in I have none. The screen is made by Samsung so that should speak for itself. I do hide the nav bar though. I haven't recorded much video but what I have sounds and looks fine to me, nothing like the YouTube reviews I saw.
I say give the XL 3 a try. I don't think you will be disappointed.

These are the two phones I was trying to decide between coming from my S7 Edge. Being with Samsung for about 2 years, I did enjoy the experience, but I hated the duplicated apps and the software updates. The straight Android experience, same day updates and a great camera, even with this notch the Pixel 3 XL won out over the Note 9 when I put my money down. I do wish however that Google would get their crap together and release features in "North" America when they do and not just America. There is no reason why in Canada we don't have Call Screen yet. My phone is set to US English. Ridiculous. Great phone though so far.

I have both if that counts. They both do things differently and I like both in their own certain ways.
Note 9 does everything decent with exception to the exceptional screen (If you don't get bad uniformity/glue issues like I have). Note 9 screen brightness is crazy good, can see everything even in direct sunlight and colors and viewing angles are the best out there. Note also gives you sdcard, headphone jack, s-pen and a big long lasting battery. Note 9 aspect ratio is a little odd but that is something very minor to me.
Then there is the pixel 3 xl. I bought the 3 xl to use while Samsung is fixing my note 9 and did not expect to love it like i do now! While on paper it looks weak it is not! Cannot hold a candle to my note 9 specs with 512 gb of storage and 8 gb of ram. Pixel screen is decent, not quite note 9 great but clearly acceptable and a lot has to do with brightness just not being the same as the note. Colors are represented well though. Then comes everything else, you don't get sdcard, headphone jack, a fancy pen or quite of big of battery as the note but the camera. The camera with google's software is unreal. I was like it will be a little better then note and I will miss all the note features, NOPE. The camera is out of bounds! The sharpness, the colors, actual representation of your subject is spot on. Then comes night sight, wow it continues to impress. While it may not keep 20 apps all loaded in background with the lack of ram or last quite the time frame that the note does it is a treat to use. There is just something about pure stock android and a camera that is to die for. Also worth mentioning is you can easily root it. Running a kernel, setting up custom color profiles to make the screen look like note, squeeze function for highly used apps and shortcuts is extremely nice. Needless to say I am going to end up keeping both of them for quite sometime! Note for content watching and some daily use and pixel 3 xl for when I need to take photos and some everyday use as well. Hope this helps you

Switched from note 8. No regrets. The only thing I miss is headphone jack.

bigup7 said:
I own a note 9 and think it’s a great phone, great features but the camera lets it down.
I don’t use the spen much at all so that’s wasted.
I have a itch to get a 3XL but not sure if if should due to the issues with speakers, screen burn and video recording (mic). For the price you pay there should not be any of these issues out of the box.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and if you have moved from a note 9 to the 3XL, was it a good move?
Thanks.
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From my experience with the pixel 3 xl, is you're going to love it except for the battery life. it's average!
Everything else is premium including the screen. Speakers are loud but not as clear as my iphone xs. UI is zippy but does have its stutters sometimes. 4GB is ok, not a deal breaker by any means. The camera is amazing just like everyone says.
Ive compared it to the iPhone xs, and the pixel is guaranteed to get a better shot in all situations.

malek777 said:
From my experience with the pixel 3 xl, is you're going to love it except for the battery life. it's average!
Everything else is premium including the screen. Speakers are loud but not as clear as my iphone xs. UI is zippy but does have its stutters sometimes. 4GB is ok, not a deal breaker by any means. The camera is amazing just like everyone says.
Ive compared it to the iPhone xs, and the pixel is guaranteed to get a better shot in all situations.
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The battery life is very good for me especially for the battery being smaller then note. Yesterday battery went from 100% at 8:30 to 32% at midnight. That's pretty good in my book. Note 9 beats it still by a little but pixel has been great for me for smaller battery size
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

oneandroidnut said:
The battery life is very good for me especially for the battery being smaller then note. Yesterday battery went from 100% at 8:30 to 32% at midnight. That's pretty good in my book. Note 9 beats it still by a little but pixel has been great for me for smaller battery size
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
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That depends on your usage . Last night my battery went from 88% to 68% without using it. I'm going to try a factory reset . But my biggest issue that I've noticed while watching YouTube is that the top notification bar is burnt in to the screen. I'm not sure if this will go away eventually or its permanent.

malek777 said:
That depends on your usage . Last night my battery went from 88% to 68% without using it. I'm going to try a factory reset . But my biggest issue that I've noticed while watching YouTube is that the top notification bar is burnt in to the screen. I'm not sure if this will go away eventually or its permanent.
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You have a photo?? My note 9 screen needs replaced due to screen issues and curious if my pixel will eventually have the same issues. But yeah that's way too much drop without using it. Should drop 10% max overnight without usage. I forgot to plug in one night at 15% late and woke up with it at 5% 8 hours later
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

oneandroidnut said:
You have a photo?? My note 9 screen needs replaced due to screen issues and curious if my pixel will eventually have the same issues. But yeah that's way too much drop without using it. Should drop 10% max overnight without usage. I forgot to plug in one night at 15% late and woke up with it at 5% 8 hours later
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
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I don't have a photo but it's only visible in a dark room. If it becomes much visible, I'll just have to get a replacement.
It seems Google really enjoys sending replacements out ?

malek777 said:
I don't have a photo but it's only visible in a dark room. If it becomes much visible, I'll just have to get a replacement.
It seems Google really enjoys sending replacements out [emoji848]
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Yeah and they sent me 7 pixel 2 xl before I had one with a good screen lol
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

OP here. I took the advise and bought a pixel 3 XL.
Must admit, after few hours using it I had it back in the box ready to be sent back as I found it lacking a lot of features that the note 9 had. Main one was lack of notification LED.
Note 9 has every feature under the sun and one gets spoilt with these features.
I then tried the software notification apps like pixel pulse etc but they not that good and were hit and miss
Today I woke up and thought I’d give the pixel a try again and now having used it for the day I do like it very much. I’m using AOD which is fine and a good substitute to the notification LED.
Feature wise is doesn’t have all it all but it has enough and is fast and efficient.
I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
My note 9 is packed and ready to be sold. Yes I will miss the epic screen, audio, no notch, headphone jack, sd card but it was just the software side of things that lured me to the pixel and Timely updates.
I couldn’t get over the poor camera quality of the note 9, such a high end phone with a ok camera.
I welcome the smaller form factor of the XL. It’s noticeable in the hand for sure.
Thanks

bigup7 said:
OP here. I took the advise and bought a pixel 3 XL.
Must admit, after few hours using it I had it back in the box ready to be sent back as I found it lacking a lot of features that the note 9 had. Main one was lack of notification LED.
Note 9 has every feature under the sun and one gets spoilt with these features.
I then tried the software notification apps like pixel pulse etc but they not that good and were hit and miss
Today I woke up and thought I’d give the pixel a try again and now having used it for the day I do like it very much. I’m using AOD which is fine and a good substitute to the notification LED.
Feature wise is doesn’t have all it all but it has enough and is fast and efficient.
I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
My note 9 is packed and ready to be sold. Yes I will miss the epic screen, audio, no notch, headphone jack, sd card but it was just the software side of things that lured me to the pixel and Timely updates.
I couldn’t get over the poor camera quality of the note 9, such a high end phone with a ok camera.
I welcome the smaller form factor of the XL. It’s noticeable in the hand for sure.
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Glad to hear you like it! And just turn the notch off on the pixel and you will be fine! But yes I was also disappointed in the camera on the note 9

bigup7 said:
I managed 7.5hr SoT today with AOD on and adaptive battery on aswell which surprised me, I hope it gets better or stays around this figure.
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Do you have brightness set at 20% or something?
I have mine set quite high as I hate looking at dim screens, but I never get anywhere near that kind of SOT. If I get to 4 hours I'm really, really lucky.

TheIgster said:
Do you have brightness set at 20% or something?
I have mine set quite high as I hate looking at dim screens, but I never get anywhere near that kind of SOT. If I get to 4 hours I'm really, really lucky.
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I keep mine on 50% or so and can manage 5 hours or so but not sure about 7.5 either
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I get great battery lol

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scoonie said:
I get great battery lol
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That's incredible. I get no where close to that. 5.5 max

oneandroidnut said:
Glad to hear you like it! And just turn the notch off on the pixel and you will be fine! But yes I was also disappointed in the camera on the note 9
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I don’t mind the notch to be honest. Got over it quite quickly.

Is the Pixel 2 XL still worth it ?

Hey guys, I was a Pixel XL user during the past one and a half year until my phone got bricked by itself (without an apparent reason) and I'm currently looking to get a new phone. So as mentioned in the title, I'm wondering if it is worth it to get a Pixel 2 XL right now and I would really like to get the opinion of users that have been using the phone for a while.
I have to admit that I was not really fully satisfied with my Pixel XL especially in terms of durability. The battery life became really bad after the first year and I was getting overheating issues especially during summer, not to mention the built quality which was far inferior to other phones that I owned during the same period such as the iPhone 7 plus and the Galaxy S7 edge. The only good side compared to those two phones was the camera and the stock android experience and updates.
I would like to know from you guys if the Pixel 2 XL is still a good phone in 2019, how did it age ? what about battery life ? the screen ? overheat ?
I'm actually really confused between getting a Pixel 2 XL (I can't stand the notch on the 3) or waiting for the Galaxy S10.

Elixir_ said:
Hey guys, I was a Pixel XL user during the past one and a half year until my phone got bricked by itself (without an apparent reason) and I'm currently looking to get a new phone. So as mentioned in the title, I'm wondering if it is worth it to get a Pixel 2 XL right now and I would really like to get the opinion of users that have been using the phone for a while.
I have to admit that I was not really fully satisfied with my Pixel XL especially in terms of durability. The battery life became really bad after the first year and I was getting overheating issues especially during summer, not to mention the built quality which was far inferior to other phones that I owned during the same period such as the iPhone 7 plus and the Galaxy S7 edge. The only good side compared to those two phones was the camera and the stock android experience and updates.
I would like to know from you guys if the Pixel 2 XL is still a good phone in 2019, how did it age ? what about battery life ? the screen ? overheat ?
I'm actually really confused between getting a Pixel 2 XL (I can't stand the notch on the 3) or waiting for the Galaxy S10.
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I have the Pixel 2XL for now 2 months. It's a panda version, the best version with the orange power button it's look so cool.
I had a Nexus 6P during 2 years before the battery life goes down (the nexus 6p's battery symptoms) 90% to 0% in 1sc and a reload time of 30sc from 0 to 100%, and it's not a joke.
I had the choice between a Pixel 3XL or the Pixel 2XL. The 3 is and still expensive but the noth is not a issue for me. But after some weeks some issue appears on the 3XL and at the same time I could have -50% on a Panda version of the Pixel 2XL with a fabric case. My choice was done.
-Great battery life (before the january patch,thx google:crying I was between 7-8h of SOT, now with the january's patch is more like 5-6h.
- Still smooth
-Great camera but it has more noise than the Nexus 6p camera.
-Excellent screen, no burn issue and no blue effect. If you don't pass your time at full brightness, it should be good.
-No overheat (no game installed)
It's an excellent phone in 2019. Even 3 years old, my old and venerable 6P still smooth like the first day.

Its worth it only if you get it cheaper .. I came to Pixel 2 Xl after using many phones .. It has only three pro for me 1) stock speedy software and 2) camera which is excellent( best would be overstatement ) 3) battery is good( 6-7 hour screen on time )
If talk about negatives then
1) Speaker is ok but call quality from ear piece and mic is average ..I struggle to hear other side in noisy environment especially when using WhatsApp
2) limited storage 64GB and others devices with same price often have 128GB and some even support SD card
3) Design is boring
4) Display is bright only when you drag slider to 70/80 percent and even some midrange phone have more bright display than pixel 2 xl
5) get warm when using phone after hotspot is active
Its good device but far from perfect

If your avoiding the notch of the pixel 3xl then if go with the pixel 2 xl till they get ride of the notch.
What I'm waiting for but checkout
Check this out see what you think though see what everything is worth to you.
https://youtu.be/cpIEWsQpRMk
Htc use to be the phone for me but the Nexus and pixel since they gone dual speaker is the best I've come across. Now wish they would add a ir blaster for those moments I can't find the TV/audio remote
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Rajaasim1980 said:
Its worth it only if you get it cheaper .. I came to Pixel 2 Xl after using many phones .. It has only three pro for me 1) stock speedy software and 2) camera which is excellent( best would be overstatement ) 3) battery is good( 6-7 hour screen on time )
If talk about negatives then
1) Speaker is ok but call quality from ear piece and mic is average ..I struggle to hear other side in noisy environment especially when using WhatsApp
2) limited storage 64GB and others devices with same price often have 128GB and some even support SD card
3) Design is boring
4) Display is bright only when you drag slider to 70/80 percent and even some midrange phone have more bright display than pixel 2 xl
5) get warm when using phone after hotspot is active
Its good device but far from perfect
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Boring design ? What color did you have?

Thank you for your advices guys ! I'm sure the Galaxy S10 will be a much better phone in terms of hardware and design but I really got used to the google software especially the camera and google photos with the unlimited storage option. Maybe I should wait until the S10 announcement...

Le_Combattant said:
Boring design ? What color did you have?
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I have balck and white panda version
I meant pixel 2 xl design is simple as compare to fancy design of samsung, Huawei, Oneplus etc
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Elixir_ said:
Thank you for your advices guys ! I'm sure the Galaxy S10 will be a much better phone in terms of hardware and design but I really got used to the google software especially the camera and google photos with the unlimited storage option. Maybe I should wait until the S10 announcement...
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Reason i come back to pixel is because of software and updates..this fludity of software is missing in samsung and even there new software one UI is laggy and i have used all samsumg devices from S7 to S9
If we put pixel software in samsung hardware then that would be excellent device
Sadly pixel always have many basic issues about call quality/display/mic/speaker crackling etc even pixel 3 and 3 xl has some issues..dont know why google dont pay attention to basic functionality when charge premium prices

I came back to the 2 XL from the 3 XL. This is a really good device.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs

Yeah, the Pixel 2xl is worth it if you want to save some money. Perfect for those that don't mind not having all the extra features + latest specs and just want a good all-around phone with timely updates, smooth software and great camera. Really good phone if you can get one without any screen issues.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

I've had my Pixel 2 XL since it came out. I've been pretty happy with it.
I like the design, build quality and materials. I think it's much better than the Pixel 3 XL because of the metal back instead of glass and no stupid notch.
Many people have complained about the screen. The screen isn't perfect. It does have a slight blue tint at extreme angles and there is some black crush and black smear at the lowest brightness. However, since I don't use my phone at extreme angles or at the lowest brightness I don't noticed those "issues". When it comes to color I actually prefer the Pixel 2 XL to the Pixel 3 XL. The Pixel 2 XL with "Boosted" color mode looks very life-like but with the Pixel 3 XL it didn't matter what color mode I tried it was still oversaturated.
Camera is fantastic.
Speakers are ok but not great but I don't use the speakers much so I don't care much.
The battery life of my Pixel 2 XL was stellar for the first 3 months but then I had 3 consecutive months of drops in battery life because of updates. Add to that the phone is now 15 months old and now the battery life is just ok. When it was brand new I got as good as 9 hours of screen on time doing basic things like browsing, Facebook, texting, email, etc on wifi most of the time with ~20 brightness with no gaming, Bluetooth, camera, etc and I could go like 40 hours off the charger with that usage. Now, the same kind of usage gets me maybe 6 hours screen on time over a period of maybe 18 hours. Not terrible but not great. On days where I'll be using it heavily(about 20% of my days) with mostly mobile data, taking pictures, streaming over Bluetooth, higher screen brightness (for use in bright sun), YouTube/Netflix, GPS, etc I have to take a battery pack with me which sucks and wasn't necessary for the first 3-5 months.
I did have an issue with the 3.5mm adapter and stock charger not working but it was a software issue that seems to be resolved now.
My only complaint now is the Bluetooth metadata bug that's been a problem since updating to Pie. The February update should be out tomorrow so I'm hoping maybe it will include a fix for that bug.
Overall pretty happy. Still not worth the insane price but no phone is.

MrMeeseeks said:
I came back to the 2 XL from the 3 XL. This is a really good device.
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Same here just purchased a brand new 2 XL after having a 3 XL. Actually like the 2 much better. Ended up with Fi promotion and trade-in getting it for $300. Hard to beat, especially when you get a 2 year warranty and two more Android versions directly from Google. Basically means I will probably get a 3 or 4 XL in eighteen months or so for free.

I had a extended sting with the OnePlus and initially that phone had it all. Performance, battery life, awesome gestures. Slowly little things like
1) annoying reoptimization of apps
2) missing very important alerts (home alarm notifications) because of the optimization
3) Lack of response by OnePlus regarding global issues related to
4) TuneIn radio app consistently does not start upon launch due to some connection issue (probably caused by aggressive doze). Persisted even after a factory reset and appears to be a global issue.
5) Lack of response from OnePlus regarding this issue as well.
I went back to my pixel xl 2 and the inefficiency of screen bothered me a bit coming from the OnePlus but since I installed OnePlus gestures (working a lot better than my 1st go round with the app) and I've gotten over that issue
Also i'm enjoying having
1) Always on Display back
2) Phone screen calling to give telemarkerters a taste of their own medicine
3) Better Camera especially with the night sight
4) Faster security updates
5) Faster access to the phone via physical finger print scanner

What is it with all those stories of pixel bricking itself randomly.
This is scary, I've read dozen of those stories

von_block said:
What is it with all those stories of pixel bricking itself randomly.
This is scary, I've read dozen of those stories
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Probably old news. Haven't read or heard such news

Do the 2XL still have the blue Tint issues or has this now been addressed by Google & fixed?

Just purchased one from Amazon for $345 128gb panda, Will be nice to have a backup pixel.

@home said:
Do the 2XL still have the blue Tint issues or has this now been addressed by Google & fixed?
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With the "boosted" mode, no problem for me

I had mine set to boosted but it still had the blue tint.
So have google fixed it?

I don't understand why people keep talking about the blue tint when the black crush is a much much more impactful problem.

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I don't understand why people keep talking about the blue tint when the black crush is a much much more impactful problem.
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What is the black crush?

Question Rog 6 Experience

Hows everyone's experience with the rog 6? can it run global rom and will google assistant work with it?

Bricked Stupid update procedure

Doesn't all android phones nowadays work with Google Assistant?
My ROG2 and ROG6 has Google Assistant but I always disable them.
I thought Google requires/mandates all OEM so include some specific Android features and Google-made apps.

iMoc said:
Bricked Stupid update procedHow is the update procedure stupid?
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ausaras said:
Doesn't all android phones nowadays work with Google Assistant?
My ROG2 and ROG6 has Google Assistant but I always disable them.
I thought Google requires/mandates all OEM so include some specific Android features and Google-made apps.
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They do and I also always disable it too along with a tonof other things from Google. Google Assistant is basically spyware along with most of the other junk from Google. Result is improved privacy and increased device performance/battery life.

Andrologic said:
They do and I also always disable it too along with a tonof other things from Google. Google Assistant is basically spyware along with most of the other junk from Google. Result is improved privacy and increased device performance/battery life.
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That's true but also happens with all company's
The company I trust the less: Apple.

Has been a beautiful experience for me. Most smooth smartphone experience i have ever had. Battery king, performance king, and the only weakness ROG phones have ever had has been fixed with the new sensor - speaking of the camera of course.
with the camera now finally usable, it is the complete package for me. After successfully converting my CN device to WW, i think im staying with this one for a while and selling my S22 Ultra.
you would need to be very careless and not read through instructions / forum threads to brick your device, flashing WW raw files is as simple as a button click.

How do speakers loudness & quality compare with:
- any previous ROG phones
- S22 ultra (just kidding)

mahdibassam said:
Has been a beautiful experience for me. Most smooth smartphone experience i have ever had. Battery king, performance king, and the only weakness ROG phones have ever had has been fixed with the new sensor - speaking of the camera of course.
with the camera now finally usable, it is the complete package for me. After successfully converting my CN device to WW, i think im staying with this one for a while and selling my S22 Ultra.
you would need to be very careless and not read through instructions / forum threads to brick your device, flashing WW raw files is as simple as a button click.
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Interesting. What kind of battery life screen on time you getting? Thanks

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Interesting. What kind of battery life screen on time you getting? Thanks
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The battery life you should be able to achieve with a hardcore debloated and battery optimized ROG 6 should be ridiculous high. My ROG 5 & 3 easily do multiple days on a full charge with data on and normal screen time and can do a week+ on standby with data on as a reference. I haven't bothered measuring the max screen time I get out of them. ROG 6 running on the latest 8+ Gen 1 chipset allegedly has significantly improved power consumption stats - which should result in great battery time even if not heavily optimized and monster results if optimized with battery performance in mind.

Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame

nadejo said:
Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame
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Its a no contest for me , ROG 6 wins purely because of massive battery and the samsung panel, not to mention the camera.
Also, i can confirm the device DOES have preinstalled screen protector. I bought two devices (CN 256GB and Global 512GB) and they both had it.

mahdibassam said:
Its a no contest for me , ROG 6 wins purely because of massive battery and the samsung panel, not to mention the camera.
Also, i can confirm the device DOES have preinstalled screen protector. I bought two devices (CN 256GB and Global 512GB) and they both had it.
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You're the one to ask then. Is there that much of a difference in software once you put the CN version into English? Call recording available on the CN version?
How're you liking them? How's battery? Lol thanks

Hi all, did anyone try connecting a type-c to hdmi cable/hub and managed to get it to work? I tried it with a Baseus hdmi+usb hub and Samsung Dex station, both not working. Phone is CN version and connected through the usb 3.1 port with aero-cooler attached to the other port.

IversGarn said:
Hi all, did anyone try connecting a type-c to hdmi cable/hub and managed to get it to work? I tried it with a Baseus hdmi+usb hub and Samsung Dex station, both not working. Phone is CN version and connected through the usb 3.1 port with aero-cooler attached to the other port.
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Hi, I can confirm it's working on the sided USB-C with Dell USB-C docking station - Dell D3100.
It does work with:
- HDMI signal -> HDMI switch -> Samsung 32"
- mouse Logitech G604
- keyboard G915 does not always work.
- soundcard Creative X G6
It was without Aerocooler with I'm selling since I don't play games. I just wanted to have a fast, smooth smartphone with 512GB of memory to replace my Oneplus 7 Pro 12/256 (it's such a great phone BTW).

Maybe I'm impatient and can't wait for the global version to start shipping but can someone who owns the devil case for rog phone 6 or 6 pro measure the scope vertically and horizontally with the case installed please? I want to order a custom phone bag and don't want to wait for the device to arrive.
I'd be very grateful Thanks!

nadejo said:
Can't wait for my rog 6 pro to arrive. Shipping starts 09.01 .
Imagine developers on xda tweaking the back panel to show battery life/ram or even using own gifs as animation on the back side. I will definitely create some wallpapers or gifs for rom developers as contribution. Not to bad if there isn't any development as the the device is still amazing af.
Hint 1: The device sadly doesn't come with a preinstalled screen protector. But there is one you can purchase on the Asus store.
Hint 2: The devilcase actually has a transparent plastic area so the backside is actually fully protected. (even if it doesn't look like that on the store pictures)
I initially wanted to buy the Redmagic 7s pro but I've noticed too many downsides. Even tho i was pretty satisfied with my red magic 5g over the years.
Rog 6 pro
1. Has better battery life.
2. No translation issues in the software.
3. Water resistance to a specific grade.
4. Brighter screen
5. Higher refreshrate.
6. Better speakers.
7. Two Usb C ports
8. Better camera quality
9. Back panel for visuals
10. More trigger functionality
11. Preorder includes the cooling fan
12. Better network reception and WiFi connectivity for sure
13. HDR10+ support
14. better fine-tuning for custom game presets.
On the other hand the red magic 7s pro has:
1. highest possible performance of the sd 8 + gen1 out of the box without an external cooler.
2. Game core to offload gaming related inputs from the Snapdragon soc.
3. less bezels
4. faster charging
5. aprox 400-600 € cheaper compared to rog 6 pro
Hard choice tho. I've chosen rog 6 pro just because red magic still didn't fix translations issues. I've even seen translation issues on a German youtube review of the red magic 7s pro. What a shame
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omg im right now in the same situation , im confused between 7s pro and Rog 6 tencent , i am littreally browsing forums and youtube to find an honest comparison for the twi devices.... what do you suggest me to get ???

abdennour.tlb said:
omg im right now in the same situation , im confused between 7s pro and Rog 6 tencent , i am littreally browsing forums and youtube to find an honest comparison for the twi devices.... what do you suggest me to get ???
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ROG 6 imo based on stability, battery size and screen from Samsung which is really good.
The thing 7s Pro has is faster charging (it you need that fast) and longer software support which is nice. This software is less good though and less stable (have used the 7)

Question Should I purchase a Pixel 6 considering eol?

TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
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Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.

Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.

I will probably update to the pixel 8 pro after my 6 pro. I think even the 6 pro is worth getting for $250. I have lineage os 20 on my 6 pro and those updates should last quite a while. I'd invest in it.

peele87 said:
TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
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Also, considering custom Roms and GSI, you can run anything you want. Like my backup phone, Oneplus Nord N10 5G only got android 11, and ROM support is dead for it. It is running Crdoid 2/20/2023 android 13 GSI ROM with 0 issues

Custom ROMs and GSI (Generic System Image) provide an opportunity for users to install and run a different version of the Android operating system on their devices. They are particularly useful for devices that no longer receive official software updates or have limited support from the manufacturer.
In the case mentioned, the Oneplus Nord N10 5G only had official support up to Android 11 and no longer received updates. However, the user was able to install a custom ROM called Crdoid 2/20/2023 based on Android 13 GSI, which allowed them to run the latest version of Android on their device without issues.
Custom ROMs and GSI may require some technical knowledge and effort to install, but they offer the flexibility to customize and modify the device's software to suit individual preferences. They also provide an opportunity to extend the lifespan of older devices by enabling them to run newer software.
However, it is essential to note that installing custom ROMs or GSI may void the device's warranty and can also pose some security risks if not done correctly. It is always advisable to research and follow the installation instructions carefully, and only install ROMs from trusted sources.

skoda9635 said:
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
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I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.

MapzOr said:
I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.

skoda9635 said:
Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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I have seen several reviews and almost no one mentioned the issues I faced, especially the battery drain on LTE and ultra wide camera.