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One of the few reasons i buy a Motorola was quick android updates. Motorola actually promised Android Oreo and Android P when it comes out for this phone. 1 year later still there is no specific date for Oreo update. While i unlocked the phone long ago and updated it to 8.1 via custom ROMS i still paid for software support which was included in the phones cost. . If possible we can start a petition on change.org ( Which will be useless as motorola anyway treats their customers as trash) Share your thoughts
Firstly, Motorola is out of its minds. They should first give an update to Oreo and then speak of Pie. Nokia and many other devices that launched long after last year's Moto G series are already running Oreo from months. Lenovo took Motorola from Google and turned it into ****.
Secondly, Motorola said that their devices would get only one major Android update, so I'm fine with it. But what's troubling is the amount of time they're taking for it. Having said this, finally I'd like to add that though Moto devices have suffered on the software side in Lenovo's hands, I didn't find any shortcomings even on nougat and didn't really feel like needing an update. My phone gets all the things done. The only thing that I miss is a 64 bit architecture that'd allow me to gain access to portrait mode on Google camera and make the device future proof, as Google will remove all the 32 bit apps from the play store soon. The only reason I still prefer to buy the Moto devices is the XDA community. But if Moto continues releasing 32 bit os on a 64 bit chipset, then I may as well go for Mi devices because they get excellent XDA support too.
Short Answer: No
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I only ever bought a Moto phone because it was cheap. While I usually don't care for the latest and the greatest in neither software or hardware (still rockin a IPod Touch 4th gen) How Moto is treating it's customers is awful.
I know all about planned obsolescence, but this seems like a new level. Purposely delaying a promised software patch for your flagship until after your new flagship comes out (that conveniently ships with the promised software from the last one, mind you) Then maybe focusing on bringing that software to the old phone. Waiting just long enough to make sure everyone buys the new one.
If you don't believe me, this will probably happen again with the G6/Plus/Z/Z Play. The Android P update will get delayed and delayed until, eventually, a new Android is released. And, surprise, along with it, a new flagship that you will inevitably force people to buy while promising the new software.
It's a circle, people.
Motorola might be a good company before lenovo bought it .. But now OMG ..now i think why in the f****ing hell i chose Lenovo's Motorola ...FFS ...Everything about it's Software side is so **** !!\
So i don't think it's even worth it .. they won't change!!
I have owned and used the Moto G2, G3, G4, and now the G5+. The same complaints have been posted in these forums with every device. Personally, I don't care about upgrades to new versions of Android. As long as my phone performs well, which it does and is reliable, which it is I am content. My G5+ does everything well that I want it to do and then some. So I have no complaints.
As far as what I buy in the future, I will make that decision when the time comes. And yes, I will consider Motorola's latest offerings.
Motorola told us last year the Moto G line will get 1 major OS update.
And Oreo is being tested so just be patient or flash a custom rom.
They never promised Android P for the phone, only Android Oreo
For those saying Lenovo kileed motorola, Google was going to kill Motorola and Lenovo saved it, so stop blaming them, Motorola was a dead company
I wanted a device that was reasonably priced, close to stock, good developer community. I think I got that. So potter's not getting Pie? It wasn't promised, so there's no issue of 'trust' there. Oreo? Well OK that's late as anything. I did know at the time I bought it that Motorola was now slow to update. I bought mine around September last year, and was surprised when it auto-updated to I think the August patch. Since then, software updates have been patchy (pun intended).
Another consideration is in NZ, there's only a handful of open network phones available. Motorola, Oppo, Huawei, and you might find a few others if you're willing to go to parallel import shops etc. So with that in mind, it kinda makes the choice obvious for me. Nokia? In NZ they're network-specific, and on a network that I don't use. So yeah, I'll stick with Motorola. G6 Plus is available for us, which is a good thing. Although, I'll hang onto this for a couple of years, so I'd likely skip the Gen 6 motos.
Android 10 was released on September, Xiaomi said that they will update Mix 3 on October, But looking at the situation it's started getting ridiculous, we're now at the end of February which is 5 month over the schedule and we have got nothing. I don't care if Android 10 is not different from 9, I paid for a flagship and I should get a flagship service, not to mention this is also applies for the Android security patch which is pretty old and last updated on October. Also the forgotten 5G variant which still running on MIUI 10. Is this is a joke? really?? if anyone knows who to contact from the company so we can gather and make a demand on extending our device support since we didn't get anything for a long time.
Xiaomi was a good company I don't know what's happening to it.
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
phorenzik said:
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
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China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
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No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
There's so many bugs, at least in my experience. Ghost notifications, broken app switcher sometimes, glitchy gallery, disappearing lock screen notifications, the ads in the cleaner app, and so on.
It's so disappointing, all of this on a seemingly orphaned flagship.
Disappearing lock screen notifications is "feature" according to them, kinda make sense but everybody, including me, is used to other way. Ads in Xiaomi app is also a feature, but this one you can change at least, you can do that by going into that apps settings and then find "recommendations" and turn that off..
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
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They may not be able to, it is entirely possible that the company does not allow IP (IE, the code) to be taken off site, or worked on remotely, and depending where the employees are, they may not have access to internet that is reliable and speedy enough to be conducive to remote development. Plus if some of the European news sources are to be believed, the true scale of 2019-nCoV may be 10x higher than what China is actually sharing with the world.
Your chances of getting anything by demanding it unless you are going to try to file a suit in China (good luck) are almost zero. I agree this device is not being treated as a flagship by Xiaomi, the Redmi and Pocophone devices that sold much better got much faster updates, which is not cool. It's also been the case for a while now that the global users are second fiddle to China ROM users.
Basically there's nothing any of us can do, except wait, unless you want to try to develop your own rom, which given what I've personally run into is anything but easy for this device. I was barely able to get Android 10 booting, and lots of things were broken.
Pocophones and Redmis has much higher development in India. Even if the devs in China were affected by CoVid, and halts development, for example the Poco or Pocophone's software dev could still be running in full course. Most of the releases are Indian-first, you just need to change region to India and you'll get the update. For the Mix 3, if they're solely based in China, it'll be affected by the outbreak, release will stagger for more months but you'd still get the update nonetheless, albeit not on the time you expect it would be.
Unless not getting an Android 10 upgrade makes your phone unusable, I don't see the reason why people whine on these types of things. I mean, get a Pixel if you want to experience the latest bugs from Android.
^^ I agree, and also people should have in mind that software for Mix line does not come with all the bugs, that come to Redmi and other phones, so yes, they might get update faster, but see how many users of those phones are complaing about bugs and searching for fixes, as far I could see there are not bugs on this phone. But update is released today, at least some users are reporting that, so we will see if hos it goes, maybe I'm wrong..
Update has been released today, based on Android 10.
Doesn't Google mandate that phones should be supported for 2 or 3 years?
No, this is not AndroidOne program
I'm confused... We do have Android 10. Global has had it for a while.
No update for the 5g.
Shame on you Xiaomi.
This is my last Xiaomi.
I've had Android 10 since 2019 on my Mi Mix 3.
I've posted this review on the c.mi forums, There isn't anywhere in the review section that I can find to post a full review so I'm posting it in discussion, mods feel free to move it if there is a better category.
But, I felt someone in the same situation as me that bought this phone to get [back] into android development might find this useful.
Hello all, After having a Redmi Note 8 Pro and using it as my daily driver for a little over a month, I've decided it's time for me to write a review.
First, I'll give you all a little background on me, I'm a developer of everything from webpages to hardware, and tech enthusiast of all kinds. I'm from the US(NA market) so my knowledge of the Indian and Chinese markets are a bit limited although I do know pretty much how the EU market works as they're normally marketed to the almost the same way as the NA market, at least when it comes to tech. I started developing for Android with my Google G1 way back in 2008 and have been on an off developing for different android phones since then on a variety of forums. From the now gone SDX-Developers to XDA and Android Forums.(Through many different accounts as everywhere but SDX seems to end with me getting in an argument and deleting my account.) This is my first Xiaomi phone. I will be giving a review both as a user and a developer.
Marketing:
In the NA market this phone is marketed as a budget flagship, or "flagship killer" if you will. Pushed mostly towards tech enthusiasts and developers.
Their marketing technique is very similar to that of OnePlus, however without the strong reputation behind it that OnePlus has. If Xiaomi wants to continue using this marketing technique here they have a lot of make up for, and a lot of work to do for reasons that will become apparent later in this review.
User Review:
As a user I'm moderately happy with my purchase, the phone itself feels quality and is beautiful(I have the pearl white one). The price was decent, costing me $225 USD for the 64GB/6GB version. The processor is quick and the UI is gorgeous and snappy. The screen has really nice Darks and the HDR implementation is really good looking....When it works(Fixed in the new A10/M11 release). However, the software is really buggy with MIUI optimizations turned on, which is a shame because they make quite a difference to the snappiness and feel of the device. Apps sometimes don't work properly, refuse to show in portrait mode, or just won't use the keyboard(such as the newegg app which I use to order hardware quite often). There are a significant lack of updates, having just now as of today(28th May 2020) recieved my first OTA(Which is useless to me, more on that later). This has been a problem that the community seems quite aware and little angry about for good reason, seeing as how my device is still on the Dec 2019 security patch, with multiple high-threat CVEs being released since then. The IR blaster is nice, but the Mi Remote app needs a lot of work. I remember it being much, much better when it was "Peel Smart Remote" and using it on my Samsung Galaxy S5. The gallery app misses most downloaded pictures, and is quite the pain to get working. This is a shame as it's the only way to change the lock screen background, other than the theme app. -1 point for broken DRM and bugs -2 points for lack of updates.
Oh I forgot there are Ads throughout the system. This is UNACCEPTABLE in the NA and EU markets, to date this is the only phone I HAVE EVER SEEN put ads in the system framwork. I have owned at least 150 different android phones. This is becoming more and more forced by tech companies throughout different devices, specifically Chinese oriented ones and will not fly for long in Western Markets(especially the EU which already limits advertising). We paid for our hardware, you've got your money, now it's just being greedy, intrusive, and posing a risk to device security. (e.g The "security" app that puts ads in your package installer) It's easy enough to disable, but not everyone is going to know how, or want to do that. -2 points just for the ads, and honestly should be more taken off, the quality of the hardware is what's stopping me from dropping it -4 points.
Overall User Rating: 5/10
Developer Review:
Let me start off by saying, once again, that in the NA market this phone is marketed as an Unlocked device for enthusiasts, or a budget flagship(Which personally I have seen very little of this advertising for) It's on the front page of the XDA forums. Rooting and development is an important part of the Android Community, in what I've seen ALL MARKETS globally. We will begin at the rooting process. Unlocking the bootloader comes with a wait time. This is due to unauthorized retailers flashing chinese and indian varients to global and selling them, filled with [more] ads. So the fact that there is a 168 hour wait time to unlock the bootloader is completely understandable and I will take away no points for that. They're protecting their reputation in the least intrusive way they could, you know what? I'll even give them an extra point for the way they handled that part, +1. Now let's go to install TWRP, where right on the website is says "WARNING: This device hard bricks really easily for unknown reasons. Restoring device without spending real money is impossible as of now. " -2 points. This should have been my first warning to buy a different device. A somewhat large, reputable, and rooting advocate development team is warning users not to use their product, that's a red flag, and should never be something you have associated with your device or company as a whole. TWRP has backlight bug which can be fixed with an adb command, and really isn't a big deal seeing as how TWRP probably went through multiple devices getting their recovery out. Then flash Magisk. That's it you're rooted. I have to give them a hand, rooting really isn't a big deal. But let's pretend we're a new user and accidentally flashed TWRP to the boot partition, well you're SOL now, you have a $225 brick. There is no coming back from this unless 1, You have an authorized MI account, which you almost certainly do not. or 2, you pay some sketchy person halfway across the world to RDP into your computer and use their authorized account to unbrick you, as well as the 80% chance they're going to drop a keylogger, ransomware or they're going to syskey your computer and now you're still SOL, but you might have your phone unbricked, not very useful without a computer and an empty bank account though. They handled the way unbricking works terribly, and without cause. -8 points To add salt on the wound they release the source code like they're doing the development community a favor when it's 100% useless without a reliable unbricking method. -2 points for putting on a show. Which is sad, because otherwise the phone would be a pleasure to develop for. For example, you're in a bootloop something in /system got messed up. You can just flash the system.img from twrp and recover without any data loss or bloatware reappearing. That's amazing! the phone is partitioned very well, and has lots of xml, props and stuff to tweak from the start. Also, a really cute fastboot screen as a plus. Unfortunately, Xiaomi.eu has dropped all support for this device, as well as any other MTK based phones.
Thankfully, some totally awesome person at Xiaomi "leaked" an engineering preloader which can help prevent bricks as long as it's not overwritten and you stay on android 9. But, the downside is, No Android 10, No MIUI 12, No anything other than MIUI 11 Pie. If they would release more lks along side the updates for developers this would be insanely helpful, and breath some life back into the RN8P/8/T development community.
Still, as a developer, and a normal person, I'm afraid to do too much to this device, or develop kernels, recoveries or ROMS because i'm terrified I'm going to be out $225 and my daily driver phone, that I can't afford to replace if something bad happens.
Development Score: 0/11
Guy who leaked preloader score: 10000/10
tl;dr If you're not into rooting or development this is a pretty decent phone with quality flagship hardware, if you can live with ads in your system, and the bug in some apps. There are ways to remove most of the ads without root, and it does still get updates, although rare. It's worth $180-$200 USD if you find it for a good deal. Although you could just get a used OnePlus 7 Pro for around the same price maybe $50-$100 USD more(depending on market) and be much happier all around.
Nice review, such detail
I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI
ezequielfilipesantos2000 said:
I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI
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Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.
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Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.
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Sure is, was that user using the latest miui version (android 10, miui. 12.0.5 i believe?)
I was also having problems flashing the TWRP ( latest one) recovery
I flashed but i didn't have sucess, it went into Redmi-Recovery 3.0
I had to get a old fastboot version of android 9.0 with muiu, flash it using miflashpro tools then, i had to flash the preloader ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-info-psa-redmi-note-8-pro-megathread-cfw.4056527/ )
Then i was able to flash the TWRP recovery and it worked
After that I tried flashing (after a wipe obviously, not going to flash dirty) Pixel Experience (AOSP) rom and it resulted in a bricked phone
10/10 I highly recommend the drama
Yeah the latest one.
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Yeah the latest one.
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How did you manage?
Was i doing something the wrong way? ( or all of it? ) ahahaha
FYI, OnePlus 10 information:...
Earlier than expected: OnePlus says OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January
OnePlus has revealed that the OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January, making for a much earlier reveal than previous generations.
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This is the OnePlus 10 Pro, as officially revealed by OnePlus
After months of leaks and speculation, we finally have our first official look at the OnePlus 10 Pro, courtesy of the company itself.
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Confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs are here: Check out that charging boost
We now have a list of confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs. The list isn't complete, but there's some really interesting stuff in here so far.
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I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.
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I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.
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yeah I've been a oneplus user for so many years, I swear one of the best devices I've ever had was my 6T, however, this coloros bs and the clear digression from the principle's that brought so many users to oneplus seemed to have taken a backseat to marketing, greed, and nonsense. for so long I was waiting for oneplus to get their camera hardware right so they could compete with the big names, but while that finally happened, they also simply said, 'f*ck the fanbase and long time users, let's merge with oppo and trash oos'. in short, yeah this 9 pro is my last oneplus, in fact, I won't even be updating to oos (coloros) 12, going to stay on 11.2.10.10 until I eventually get a pixel 6/7pro (I still have a bunch of payments to go on this 9pro), in truth, it's sad, really, that things turned out this way.
Agree man, bye oneplus, it was good knowing u for 3,3t, 5, 6,6t, 7pro and 9 pro.
I don't even have the urge to upgrade my 9 pro to stable 12
bye bye oneplus, and good morning g pixel.
Whats all i can say about all upcoming oneplus releases
It's a shame because we all loved the original ethos of OnePlus; the best unlocked hardware at a cheap price and with a near zero bloat OS. Now that we have multiple mid-tier phones, TV and wearable devices, I'm struggling to understand what OnePlus stands for or even why the brand even exists.
Shame, but same as people there, I will not buy another OnePlus phone.
They were good, because 1) had good stock ROM, close to clean Android without tons of bloatware 2) were cheap also
Nowadays they lost both of this qualities.
This is all very sad. I waited so much 10..pro. And now, reading yours messages, I understand that there is no hope. I started using model 6 and now they are taking away what has been with us for so long. Tell me, is it really supposed to be a Google pixel?I understand that I can buy which one I want, but if I look for an alternative to the departed one plus?
Oneplus really disappointed me this time: 5g has never worked, VoLTE doesn't work, the camera and its software are not up to par with other smartphones of similar price, the latest updates have been a disaster.
After buying my 9 PRO (LE2123) I was so disappointed that I thought countless times "why didn't I buy a Find X3 Pro?"
I'm even thinking about going back to Samsung.
I'm sorry to say this, but oneplus has deeply and perhaps hopelessly disappointed me this time.
Oh, guys. If you only knew what's going on with other devices...
I have had Xiaomi devices for years, last one was Poco F3. The software was disaster. Miui is a disaster.
Now I'm really happy owner of OP9Pro. Everything works. Fast.
People, who want GPixel - please think twice and do homework, there is a lot bugs there too.
I don't like Oxygen Os, now, because is f*cked up by Google...
I like Pixel 6 pro design, but with google Os, it's a NO go !
I like Motorola Edge 20. But horror news (the software will be made with google) ! NO !!!
I might buy OnePlus 10 Pro at the end of spring/start of summer from from sales forums., when the price is going down.
I agree with the general sentiment. Lots of devices coming out in 2020/21 had software/hardware problems. I purchased this phone thinking i'm getting a flagship phone with top notch hardware and dedicated software updates but ended up with just another regular phone like the old galaxy i had. So i'm not hoping anything from any future device that may be coming in the next couple of years.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
It seems that management are having their say and not accepting what their workers and teams have to say. Whilst the current situation is not ideal we're all living in uncertain times, one thing that history teaches us, is that things can change. I'm not saying that we'll see immediate changes, more that progress is slow and gradual.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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No, you should not accept reduction of quality.
My point is that it is so easy to say " F... OP, I'm switching to ....." .
There are problems with others too. So wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.
What about Hasselblad? Will they still be using Hasselblad Cameras?
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....wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.
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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.
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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.
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The lack of dual sim is what's holding me back from going to the pixel
Had the OP1, OP2, OP7 Pro and currently using the 9 Pro. I tried the latest OOS for a few days and it is bad.
Unless they do some major changes, there is no way Im getting another Oneplus phone.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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yep, remember when OnePlus cost half as much as other flagships with excellent software? I reluctantly gave up my 7 pro for my 9 pro, and I really think the 7 Pro was peak OnePlus
When can we have a perfect Oxygen for the Chinese version Oneplus 11?
I've heard about those bugs caused by transferring to Oxygen 2447/2449/2541. Looking forward to a perfect Oxygen Rom to flash SOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!!
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When can we have a perfect Oxygen for the Chinese version Oneplus 11?
I've heard about those bugs caused by transferring to Oxygen 2447/2449/2541. Looking forward to a perfect Oxygen Rom to flash SOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!!
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I think oneplus / oppo doesn't want to be operated on the china op 11 oos and will therefore not ensure that it runs clean on the op11
I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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On china op 11is it better to stay on cos
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I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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I also ran into the same problem on Oxygen.A08 - 2449.
1. Auto Brightness bug
2. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
How to fix it?
these issues appeared to be "by design".
i think it's probably better to stick with cos, and find ways to get app's to run in cos similar to in oos.
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I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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EU phone 2449 OOS A08:
1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
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EU phone 2449 OOS A08:
1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
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Maybe your phone was not Chinese version
jarodlau said:
Maybe your phone was not Chinese version
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EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
Hildanew said:
EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
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You must be missing the point of coming to XDA.
1. A lot of people bought the Chinese version because it was launched much earlier in China.
2. It's generally much cheaper to buy a China version
3. There's no local market where I'm from in Australia
lol this is a good one, "missing the point of coming to XDA"
I think Oneplus 11 is just more troublesome with ROM this time due to the fact this is the first phone after OPPO official took over,
Previously with Oneplus, there would not not have much issue flashing to OxygenOS from the china HydrogenOS then ColorOS and is a easier process
It is also quite a norm practice for people to purchase Oneplus from China and just flash OxygenOS to use or those that purchase from aliexpress is also flashed by the seller using China set.
Now after OPPO took over, some backend stuff may have change and we dont know yet what is OPPO takes on flashing domestic Oneplus meant for China to be use in other country.
Dont think anyone should come in here and just say "if i live in china, i buy china phone, if i live out of china, i buy original OOS", to be honest this kind of comment is not helping at all when a lot of people is stuck with their phone not being able to call or they bought the phone with the intention of flashing over to OOS but is held with issue now over OTA update.
Cheers
ChrisFeiveel84 said:
On china op 11is it better to stay on cos
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Does cos have an international version with Google apps preinstalled?
Roongx said:
Dont think anyone should come in here and just say "if i live in china, i buy china phone, if i live out of china, i buy original OOS", to be honest this kind of comment is not helping at all when a lot of people is stuck with their phone not being able to call or they bought the phone with the intention of flashing over to OOS but is held with issue now over OTA update.
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It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
cavist said:
It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
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Lets say for example your friend who is not verse with xda or phone custom rom, he went ahead and purchased a china imported oneplus 11 because he previously heard oneplus 10 was one of the better device and is cheaper to import from china.
Hearing that the previous gen oneplus can be flashed to oxygenos, do you think it is his fault that he blindly buy a phone?
To be honest, even if you imported the phone from china and use it as it is, it does work as everything it is supposed to be as intended.
i think the big red flag is the region call locked people is facing, without the region call locked, the phone is working exactly as how a android phone should work. no?
If one year ago you imported oneplus 10 from china when it launch, there was no problem with calling except maybe the phone come with coloros.
No one knew that oneplus 11 will get region call locked when it is brought in from china to other country use.
cavist said:
It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
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The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
People have problems and then they ask on XDA. That's why XDA was created.
Oneplus 11 is my first Oneplus phone, and by doing all that stuff with locking and software updates, it is my last Oneplus, I will never buy Oneplus again.
Before I bought Oneplus 10pro, Ace Pro, the Chinese version. was able convert rom to Oxygen os without any problem, no SIM lock, Then who would have thought that Oneplus 11 would have this problem?
Roongx said:
Lets say for example your friend who is not verse with xda or phone custom rom, he went ahead and purchased a china imported oneplus 11 because he previously heard oneplus 10 was one of the better device and is cheaper to import from china.
Hearing that the previous gen oneplus can be flashed to oxygenos, do you think it is his fault that he blindly buy a phone?
To be honest, even if you imported the phone from china and use it as it is, it does work as everything it is supposed to be as intended.
i think the big red flag is the region call locked people is facing, without the region call locked, the phone is working exactly as how a android phone should work. no?
If one year ago you imported oneplus 10 from china when it launch, there was no problem with calling except maybe the phone come with coloros.
No one knew that oneplus 11 will get region call locked when it is brought in from china to other country use.
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jinglei207 said:
The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
People have problems and then they ask on XDA. That's why XDA was created.
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I stand by what I wrote earlier and still think it is a user's fault to buy something in the blind. Nobody promised OP11 will be the same experience so I personally would and will wait for stable tools/guides/ways and software to optionaly change my phone's system in any way. So yes, buying sth and expecting it will be the same, especially having in mind how OP10 development support was and by taking only into consideration what is going on with Oneplus brand under Oppo, then I will repeat that is somebodys fault, inexperience, blind faith etc.
Also not a fan of importing devices from various regions just because they can be speced differently which it turned out its true with the chinese version and call blocking without local activation in cn market.
In my own opinion people are often creating problems themselves and they ask about sth that could have been avoided but of course it's a tik-tok era and everybody are impatient and they would rather start "dont-know-what-Iam-doing" with their phones rather than wait patiently for more feedback from the smart people who can thinker with their phones and release a guide what could or not be done with it.
Hildanew said:
EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
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Would you able to buy oneplus 11 512GB/12GB in North America? Nobody want to get headaches, there’s always some reason.
jinglei207 said:
The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
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It was so up until the OP 8T/9. Then the flashability of OnePlus devices instantly dropped to -1.000.