My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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PuffDaddy_d said:
My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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Well there's a ton of variables that could affect those scores but yes, it's VERY possible to underclock a CPU, just as you can overclock it. I'm not saying that happened, but simply answering the question, as I have no idea the differences between them. OS can definitely affect this score just as much as CPU. So, what operating system (ROM) are both using, and kernels, ROOT magisk, ETC.? There's so many things that can cause this to happen that we will need a LOT more information to even begin to figure this out.
What I see here is your Pixel 6 performing better than average, I've seen scores from 2800 to 3200, but not higher, higher than that are rare, my highest score is 970/2843, can you tell which rom(beta, stable...), kernel, mods or modules and so are you using? Did you disable any app too?
Try using 3D Mark Wild Life Extreme or so to test 3D performance, or try antutu so you can have more info, thanks!
Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.
PuffDaddy_d said:
Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.
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Your Pixel is a 1% one, her Pixel has an issue probably, factory resetting one day should fix it, I'll avoid restoring a backup of settings and so to make sure it works as it should.
Make sure to clean caches and checking background apps, try also better battery stats to check what's eating up resources, it is probably an easy fix, but finding it will need some work, thanks for sharing
Well, If you spend time to read previous news and you will know it's normally because both chips are made by the same technology from Samsung. And the chip used by your P6P may be luckily packaged from the best performance of specific position of the wafers(Center dies or near center dies ...) ... So it's within the reasonable variation.
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AnTuTu results, especially 2D graphics, are coming back with huge and consistent (multiple tests) variances between devices. 3D is off but not as widely. Since the phones being tested were all built within weeks of each other and running the same (stock) s/w, what could be causing such deviations in performance? 2D graphics scores swing from 147 to 286 which is almost a 50% variance. Hardware? Drivers? And could there be any correlation between this and the display flickering and other graphics issues?
And if we can limit the arm chair quarterbacking from those that aren't deep in to the code that would be great. There's enough layperson speculation in the general section.
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I made similar experiences in different networks, especially with the stock rom. When i´m in wifi the results differ from them in bad network. If i have played a game before it shows other results, as when my One X didn´t use the graphic drivers...Try it. At this time - with ARHD Rom - i have most around 11500 and 11900 in AnTuTu, only one time 10600.
Benchmarks are more a game than really good guides... if your phone runs smooth, don´t worry about the results.
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AnTuTu results, especially 2D graphics, are coming back with huge and consistent (multiple tests) variances between devices. 3D is off but not as widely. Since the phones being tested were all built within weeks of each other and running the same (stock) s/w, what could be causing such deviations in performance? 2D graphics scores swing from 147 to 286 which is almost a 50% variance. Hardware? Drivers? And could there be any correlation between this and the display flickering and other graphics issues?
And if we can limit the arm chair quarterbacking from those that aren't deep in to the code that would be great. There's enough layperson speculation in the general section.
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Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
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Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
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Hey designgears, everyone with a low result gets a normal result just like you referenced after rebooting. So it seems the graphics crap is drivers. There's rumors of an end-of-month update to fix them and HTC's supposedly issuing a statement in the UK shortly. I hope they nail Nvidia, this is the second device to have Teg3 related issues at launch.
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Hey designgears, everyone with a low result gets a normal result just like you referenced after rebooting. So it seems the graphics crap is drivers. There's rumors of an end-of-month update to fix them and HTC's supposedly issuing a statement in the UK shortly. I hope they nail Nvidia, this is the second device to have Teg3 related issues at launch.
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ya, last time I buy a Tegra product... lol
I noticed alot of people on the forums posting benchmarks after installing different ROM. I decided to download Quadrant just to see what I was pulling. I scored low in comparison to what I've seen, so I just completely wiped my phone back to stock (data wiped and then ODIN) and tried it, and pulled a 4678. Flashed CleanROM SE 1.2, and it went up to 4706. I've seen some people between 5k and 7k. A few videos I watched, people claiming to be completely stock were getting 5600+. Any clue what's wrong here? Is there anyone else out there that is stock that can benchmark and tell me what they get?
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Read through the benchmark threads and you'll come to understand a few things:
- benchmarks are useless as an ongoing measurement. They merely show capability potential.
- your benchmarks will vary not only based on the rom and kernel, but what other apps you have running as services, what specific device configuration you have set at the time of running.
Does your phone perform amazingly doing what you want it to do? That's the only relevant and important measurement.
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Read through the benchmark threads and you'll come to understand a few things:
- benchmarks are useless as an ongoing measurement. They merely show capability potential.
- your benchmarks will vary not only based on the rom and kernel, but what other apps you have running as services, what specific device configuration you have set at the time of running.
Does your phone perform amazingly doing what you want it to do? That's the only relevant and important measurement.
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Right. I understand what you're saying and that software environment can change the results, but two out-of-box state phones should score somewhat close to each other, yes or no? In comparison to what I've seen, my CPU is where I'm lacking. I also understand that I can OC and hit higher scores, but just comparing it to other phones that claim to out-of-box / stock - I'm scoring low in comparison.
Spy is probably right. But benchmarks should be somewhat similar
This is running DAGr8's AOKP Bullet build.
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I noticed alot of people on the forums posting benchmarks after installing different ROM. I decided to download Quadrant just to see what I was pulling. I scored low in comparison to what I've seen, so I just completely wiped my phone back to stock (data wiped and then ODIN) and tried it, and pulled a 4678. Flashed CleanROM SE 1.2, and it went up to 4706. I've seen some people between 5k and 7k. A few videos I watched, people claiming to be completely stock were getting 5600+. Any clue what's wrong here? Is there anyone else out there that is stock that can benchmark and tell me what they get?
Thanks in Advance,
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I've been following the saber kernal for a while and seen that some guys are running the saber kernel on clean rom OC'd. Not sure if that what your looking for but that would put you right up there along the 7k mark.
I don't try to squeeze out numbers on the quadrant thing but I have ran a few times just to see. I score right about 6900. Note 2, CleanRom 4.0.5 with the kernal from that rom and no other tweaks that I know of that would increase the score. I am not over clocked or anything. Seems fine to me
Sorry to bother you guys with that silly question. Total user error. I had power-saving mode on, and it didn't even occur to me. I pretty much turn it on first thing anytime I reset my phone, and do it without thinking anymore. However, after resetting back to pure stock one more time, without power-saving mode, I actually hit 7168. Basically, I was trying to see the difference myself of stock performance verses a different ROM / kernel. I would also like to see the battery life difference for myself.
Anyhow, thanks to everyone for their responses.
hi. im kinda new to Lg phones . its infact my first LG phone ever.
first off, i will get something cleared out to all. im disappointed at almost no support from LG! its been a year and still 4.1? no updates what so ever? this was their flagship phone that was primarily focused to compete with Note 2 and even S4 but look where they are now! 4.4 KK!
now to the point of thread, i just got out of misery of soft brick. and just today i got the V5.5 rom of THIS rom.
out of curiosity i downloaded some benchmarks. here are my scores.
after looking at these scores i was like WTF is this??? guys any help, that are these scores NORMAL for LG OGP or is it my device???
i mean my Note 1, i remember, had better scores in Benchmarkpi than this!
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also another problem. i have installed the LG drivers for the mobile in the pc and also lg pc suite is installed. but when i connect this piece of **** to PC, it connects and disconnects continuously. it does not even show up in Computer. even after i have reinstalled the drivers like 6 times, its sitll not connecting. it connects when ever it desires. this phone is real ****. i ****ing hate it now.
pls some one help how to fix this???
pls assist.
4.4 is coming to our device. Be patient. As for the low scores, make sure quadcore management is turned off.
The heavy theming of LG's skin makes it extremely resource heavy which will "slow down" your phone.
If you're that worried about benchmark scores, try Carbon with the OC'd kernel. On Antutu, I get about 30k.
Benchmark scores are completely irrelevant. Even if your OGP scored lower than your Note 2, the OGP is still outperforming it in basically every way. Better processor and GPU.
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Have you change the Thermal Daemon Mitigation to "ON"?
And maybe you can try using other usb cable.
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4.4 is coming to our device. Be patient. As for the low scores, make sure quadcore management is turned off.
The heavy theming of LG's skin makes it extremely resource heavy which will "slow down" your phone.
If you're that worried about benchmark scores, try Carbon with the OC'd kernel. On Antutu, I get about 30k.
Benchmark scores are completely irrelevant. Even if your OGP scored lower than your Note 2, the OGP is still outperforming it in basically every way. Better processor and GPU.
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you are right about the performance and about the relevancy of benchmarks. i dont trust them myself but even then man, these scores are too low for Snapdragon 600 im kinda worried about my hardware. thats why asked help here.
and i just wish LG brings KK soon enough.
i will be honest, i got this phones just cause of i got LG monitor like 4 months back and i was amazed by its display! like really amazed!
it is an IPS panel and its amazing. i got so impressed i got LG OGP just cause of its "LG make".
phone is very good. and to be honest i find more potential in LG Optimus UI than samsung's touchwiz cause i have had almost ZERO lag until now. its been a week i got this phone.
the only concerns i have are batter in stock roms is ****. i got this V5.5 rom which kinda corrected the battery or its just placebo effect but i find it better.
i just wish LG brings KK sooner man.
thanks for reply though
Like I said, give Carbon and the OC'd kernel a try. I've gotten 2052MHz to run stable on here even though I prefer using 1890MHz just in case. Having the GPU bumped up to 531MHz won't impact battery life and with hardware acceleration enabled, there is no possible way for this phone to lag. :3
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Like I said, give Carbon and the OC'd kernel a try. I've gotten 2052MHz to run stable on here even though I prefer using 1890MHz just in case. Having the GPU bumped up to 531MHz won't impact battery life and with hardware acceleration enabled, there is no possible way for this phone to lag. :3
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What do you mean by "hardware acceleration enabled" ?
Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???
https://youtu.be/wdsK_RQOZDA?t=5m7s
I don't know what you mean exactly.... and the MI6 is using UFS 2.1 for sure.
Ufs2.0 or 2.1, I'm sure .
My Mi6, and it's using UFS 2.1
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Not possible. I've bench mine and it's UFS 2.1 speed. I don't think they'll use emmc 5.1 on their latest flagships. Even when I had the MI5 it was with UFS 2.0 after I bench it to confirm. You don't even have the phone??
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UFS 2.1 on mine too. Not sure what the OP is smokin
My Antutu MI6
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Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal
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Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal
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Probably had older software - or pre-release version of the phone.
Even mine scores 135k ....
Which runs on latest rom 8.2.23 china stable
Mine running on 7.5.16 beta global rom scored 176k antutu score, and that was with a few notifications coming through on messenger at the time interrupting the benchmark.
In real world game play I get some weird "sticking" in Minecraft PE. When you're mining stuff and then go to move there is a split second of lag and it jumps. I'm not sure if this is a GPU optimization issue or whether its the Mi6.. My Google pixel does not do this - its liquid smooth.
Other graphics intensive games like Pixel Gun, Asphalt 8, etc work smooth and seamless.. Zero issues
Interesting that CPU X app indicates the max speed of the SD835 on my MI6 is only 1.9ghz..??? Shouldn't it be 2.45Ghz?
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I got 170k+ with antutu and I did have weird 120k antutu while the phone is overheating. So it's safe to say the test where they got 130k antutu is when the phone is overheating.
But by no mean Mi 6 is slow or use lower/underpowered memory/chip. It's fast all the time to me. Faster than all older chip powering phones I had.
On 7.5.16 global beta I was getting 178k+ antutu scores. after the update to 7.6.1 and a fresh wipe, around 171k now. Agreed its not a slow phone! doing well. Now all they need to do is fix the screen touch-move tolerance so that games are playable
Cpu x only giving info about 4 little cores big cores are clocked at 2.45 and little cores 1.9
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...processor-specs-speed-benchmark-chipset-cores
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Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???
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It is UFS, mi China says so
Hi! Just ordered a redmi note 8 pro. My mi 8 dieda couple of days ago and I wanted a quick and cheap replacement.
I play a lot of pubg and cod.
Anyone tried benchmarking the fps (with gltools or gamebench for example), does RN8 pro keep 60 fps even for long periods of time? Mi 8 had som throttling problems, when the phone got warm, it lost performance and fps..
Been som news about RN8 pro heating. Does it throttle also?
Any way to stop the throttling? with FDE-AI or similar apps, anyone tried?
Found some tests on youtube. Doesnt seem to be able to keep 60 fps on lowest settings.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=redmi+note+8+pro+fps+test
I am also thinking on buying either RN8 Pro or realme 5 Pro. I have seen a lot videos on youtube.
And I think its performance is better as compared to Realme 5 Pro but every Youtubers mentioned one thing in particular that heats up a little bit.
I am currently on Redmi Note 3 Helio P60 Variant. Even its performance is very satisfying for me with pubgfx Tool on Smooth + Ultra.
So it is going to be an upgrade for me either way. ??
It wont throttle and heat as much if you set it to Smooth Extreme. If you set it to HDR Ultra then the device will heat up, but it won't throttle.
For COD, High-High 60fps stable, heat is tolerable
I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?
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Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?
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No, have only tried miui 11.
Any updates on your impressions?
as a former poco f1 user, i'd say its about on par with it as far as performance goes (on paper there is about 15% more power to the poco f1) the main reason i switched to this phone was the display and the bigger battery for the most part i'd say the display is better then the poco's especially because the notch is basically gone, as for battery i'd its around the same or the redmi note 8 pro is a little bit better, also i only switched to this phone cause i had a chance to do so for free and i don't regret switching honestly.
I play pubg daily (ace rank). Performance is good. Most of the time you get 60 fps, some dips to 40-50 fps at start of landing at hot drops. TDM and mostly domination feels laggier. Might be those game modes...