http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1052394
As we know the Ti 850 cpu is not known for it's speed, but it is energy saving. I, and other xda dwellers too, would like to know if it packs enough punch to run this little beast, which is an incredible game, and it's free.
it would be nice if some users test the game with fulll visuals and reduced visuals on their machines, with both the standard speed and overclocked.
Please post your experiences on the original thread, and not this one.
And have fun!
I have posted in the main thread about this game, it loads and runs great on the Artemis - the only problem being getting used to the rollerball for steering! - worth a try without even needing to consider overclocking - Mike
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Hi im running xdandroid on my rhod210 and i am very happy with it, one of the few annoying downsides to it is the ****ty fps of 17.5 which is quite choppy for most 3d games.
But iv heard that gpu overclock for rhodium is definatly possible with the right line added to startup.txt.
look at this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
it says about overclocking the vogue with a line in startup.txt, with it the vogue achieved 36.5fps!!! which is brilliant, and the vogue is inferior to the tp2 harware wise.
So we know its possible and will give us great improvement, so all we need is someone with the know how to tell us how? it was sais that we would "need to talk to your kernel devs to add this functionality" so hopefully this will be a great update.
any comments, anyone willing to help? anyone working on the xdandroid project willing to implement this? it would be much appreciated.
tank you, please reply :]
Thus far I think we've only overclocked the main CPU, haven't touched the GPU. Looks promising tho.
ohhhhhhhh my god its really ?? i cant belief !! its co0o0o0o0o0o0ol
Jandyman said:
Hi im running xdandroid on my rhod210 and i am very happy with it, one of the few annoying downsides to it is the ****ty fps of 17.5 which is quite choppy for most 3d games.
But iv heard that gpu overclock for rhodium is definatly possible with the right line added to startup.txt.
look at this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673
it says about overclocking the vogue with a line in startup.txt, with it the vogue achieved 36.5fps!!! which is brilliant, and the vogue is inferior to the tp2 harware wise.
So we know its possible and will give us great improvement, so all we need is someone with the know how to tell us how? it was sais that we would "need to talk to your kernel devs to add this functionality" so hopefully this will be a great update.
any comments, anyone willing to help? anyone working on the xdandroid project willing to implement this? it would be much appreciated.
tank you, please reply :]
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this would be awesome, would definitely raise its quadrant score
I'm not sure what is Vogue and what screen resolution it has, but I supppose as it's old phone with Qvga. Qvga means 1/4 of the pushing pixels that we have on screen. So if Rhodium had qvga screen we would have 4 times beter frame rate. 69 FPS. I wouldn't call 17,5 fps of WVGA 3D ****ty in phone that was presented almost 2 years ago with different operating system. And we should remember that it's Android, which isn't (for now) fully working.
I'm not sure what is Vogue and what screen resolution it has, but I supppose as it's old phone with Qvga. Qvga means 1/4 of the pushing pixels that we have on screen. So if Rhodium had qvga screen we would have 4 times beter frame rate. 69 FPS. I wouldn't call 17,5 fps of WVGA 3D ****ty in phone that was presented almost 2 years ago with different operating system. And we should remember that it's Android, which isn't (for now) fully working.
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your right the htc vogue has a qvga screen, but it also has less processing power so this should somewhat balence things out. But i still think gpu overclocking would greatly improve the rhodiums performance and if i remember right neoseekers version of android recorded 24.1 fps, and that is without gpu overclock. so improvement is more than possible.
ohhhhhh god 24.1 fbs its brilliant beside 17.5 to the htc rhodium its co0o0o0o0ol
I tried the startup option they were talking about in the thread referenced... if the value is too low then maybe that is the issue, or it just doesn't work. Either way got 17.6fps on neocore before and AFTER changing the startup.txt and rebooting. Unless a dev wants to chime in I don't think that is the only step to overclocking.
Well those startup options are in the kernel. So we'd have to get the kernel enabled before we can ever dream of having the startup option work
Basically any option that's set in cmdline is being passed to the kernel - so if our kernel isn't enabled for that feature/option, it'll just get ignored.
arrgghh beat me to it
i dont kno how hard or easy it is to change the kernal to allow this but hopefully the devs will hear and implement this feature. Or if someone could contact them suggesting it would be great.
its actually simple to over-clock, but does anyone know what values to overclock to before burning up the phone?
If you guys want this done, id look for an existing winmo solution to do this on windows. Once we know what values to use on the clock regs, we can easily port it over on android.
a quick google search of 'overclocking gpu on htc touch pro 2' has lead me to nothing :/ im presuming this is because there is no need to overclock the gpu when running windows mobile because there are very few decent windows mobile games (as far as i kno) and havnt found any using 3d, specially not free.
But if we find the detailed specs of the touch pro 2, and then search for the safe frequesncy to overclock that power of gpu too wouldnt it be the same? thats probly our best bet unless someone can find evidence of overclocking gpu on a tp2 running windows mobile.
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a quick google search of 'overclocking gpu on htc touch pro 2' has lead me to nothing :/ im presuming this is because there is no need to overclock the gpu when running windows mobile because there are very few decent windows mobile games (as far as i kno) and havnt found any using 3d, specially not free.
But if we find the detailed specs of the touch pro 2, and then search for the safe frequesncy to overclock that power of gpu too wouldnt it be the same? thats probly our best bet unless someone can find evidence of overclocking gpu on a tp2 running windows mobile.
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Nahh.. don't work that way. Its not like 1 clock you can change to any frequency. All the clocks are derived from the plls and you would need to do some math to determine what pll to use and what to devide it by.
There are also other clocks involved with the display. mddi, mdp are other clocks that can also change. Vogue for example has the ability to over clock mddi.
But yea.. a winmo app would be very helpful.
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Nahh.. don't work that way. Its not like 1 clock you can change to any frequency. All the clocks are derived from the plls and you would need to do some math to determine what pll to use and what to devide it by.
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For those who are still unawares at this point, PLLs are crystals on the mainboard that resonate at different frequencies. Thus you would need to tear open the phone and figure out which PLLs are linked to the GPU and which are just ancillary, and then be able to put it back together. Whomever wants to take this upon themselves, I wish them luck.
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For those who are still unawares at this point, PLLs are crystals on the mainboard that resonate at different frequencies. Thus you would need to tear open the phone and figure out which PLLs are linked to the GPU and which are just ancillary, and then be able to put it back together. Whomever wants to take this upon themselves, I wish them luck.
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Not entirely tru. We know which pll the gpu uses and what its currently dived by. We had this discussion today on the irc board. There is some work being done to help improve the speed.
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Not entirely tru. We know which pll the gpu uses and what its currently dived by. We had this discussion today on the irc board. There is some work being done to help improve the speed.
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Yay, I can haz FPS?
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Not entirely tru. We know which pll the gpu uses and what its currently dived by. We had this discussion today on the irc board. There is some work being done to help improve the speed.
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Just curious if this work on GPU overclocking ever got anywhere or was determined to be possible in the future?
it's possible - but more than likely it would cause severe problems with battery life and stability. Considering the dismal state of our battery life already I doubt the work is worth it for an extra 4fps in angry birds.
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it's possible - but more than likely it would cause severe problems with battery life and stability. Considering the dismal state of our battery life already I doubt the work is worth it for an extra 4fps in angry birds.
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If you're up to date on kernels, especially if you're on Wistilt's test branch, battery life is great. When sleeping, battery life is measured in days now. Anyway, just because the compromises involved don't interest you doesn't mean they wouldn't work for someone else.
Alternatively to overclocking the GPU, I wonder what sort of UI smoothness/framerates would be possible if the display driver were recoded to pixel double to our screen from 400x240 (same resolution as a Samsung Intercept).
I played around with the lcd density but that didn't seem to be able to create the same effect, as program's like Neocore still knew that my display was actually 800x480 and displayed as such.
Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:
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Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:
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I cover this in the guide I wrote in general (which has been pushed down quite a ways) but anyways here goes another version.
Overclocking varies from device to device, even of the same model. Variances in tolerance is on a per chip basis, as long as they pass within a certain range they are sent out for production in devices. Overclocking in general is within means of the chip's abilities, if it isn't, you'll know it. Generally speaking, 1.4 GHz is perfectly fine on our devices. 1.5 GHz is also usually ok, but is the upper end of what the Tegra2 can usually tolerate. Few an go past 1.58 GHz, my old G2x's tegra2 could hit 1.7 GHz,but that's well beyond "normal" range.
Overclocking a device is the same as overclocking a PC, you need to be careful with it. Don't just ramp it to 65% overclock and expect it to run fine. Every chip is different. Do it in steps, and test each step before moving on. Test it in normal usage, test it in heavy usage, gaming, etc.
An overclocked device will certainly run hotter then normal, it's running faster, drawing more power, and that creates a hotter running core, no way around it. Keeping in mind there is no airflow in these things, that makes the biggest enemy to CPUs even more dangerous.Does it run so hot that it can shorten component life? Sure it can. Will you still have the device when it happens? I doubt it. Likely, we'll be on Tegra5 before it even begins to show signs of stress.
One of the nice things, though, is our CPUs range so much in speed according to load that just because your Max is 1.5 GHz, it doesn't always run there. Most times, it won't even be in the overclocked speeds. Does it run faster? Sure does. Benchmarks will raise nicely, and games that maybe got choppy before will smooth out, movies that couldn't play well will be fluid, the heavens will align, mankind will discover world peace and I'll win the lottery.
All that being said, I don't usually overclock, in fact I tend to underclock a little to 800MHz. Its usually sufficient to do normal tablet stuff, and I adjust the speed according to what I require. If my movie is lagging, I'll bump it up until it smooths out. Same for a game if it needs it.
In the end, its all personal choice, really. Just because you CAN overclock, doesn't mean you NEED to. IMO a well tuned governor will give as good a result as overclocking in normal usage, and a good I/O Scheduler will also help alot, without adding anymore heat or stress to your device.
TL;DNR:
Overclocking is fun. It causes more heat. It likely won't explode within the time you own it. Or your children. Your battery will suck.
thanks pio for the answer, thats what i needed to read, cuz usually when u talk about OC its like "yeah dude, OC its "tha greeeeeat doi it dude" or something like "dont do it!!! u will decrease your tablet life" and yes, i know that devices are way to diferent even if they are the same model, and also im agree with u, governors and I/O works better than OC but we dont have many for our device, i miss the smartass v2 governor,or the brazzilianwax too, but well, hope someone can port it for us someday.
unless you've been living under a rock, you must be aware by now about my performance mod for Need for Speed Most Wanted 1.0.28
This a poll about the Multiple Configuration Patch configuration patch
I have recently recommended 1300000 for internal view and 100000 for external view
I would like to know which setting you found best to play this game
will help us realize which is more important graphics/effect or speed/smoothness
1ghz version.
It is smoother, the phone doesnt gets so hot, so the battery consumtion is not that heavy and it is still eyecandy .
I just wish I could do this with shadowgun deadzone: I would give up this tasty shaders for good perfomance with 8+ players on the screen...(it goes down to aprx. 12 fps and its annoying in online game)
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Zlotin said:
1ghz version.
It is smoother, the phone doesnt gets so hot, so the battery consumtion is not that heavy and it is still eyecandy .
I just wish I could do this with shadowgun deadzone: I would give up this tasty shaders for good perfomance with 8+ players on the screen...(it goes down to aprx. 12 fps and its annoying in online game)
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good choice i found its best for outer view
as for shadowgun deadzone, you can! in the game just go to settings and reduce the graphics, by default it high or ultra
madfinger betrayed us on this one! they used tegra 3 to develop and test the game and in the final multi device version they ruined it for tegra it was so smooth in the beta
Zlotin you have to select an option to enter the poll please
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Neo's Kernel. @ 1.2GHz
Recommendation for the HTC One X Tegra 3
The Nexus 7 patch or the 1300000 mode is good in initial levels, except the lag during road blocks, sadly later on with faster cars fps does suffer, keeping in mind the internal view doesn't have to draw your car and has much higher fps, i have concluded the following:
- If you like to play from internal view, i recommended the Nexus 7/1300000 mode you get to enjoy the extra track effects at good fps, even road blocks lag is minimized
- If you like to play from external view, you will have to settle with the 100000 mode, this is the mode running on the Nexus 10, the graphics still look massively better than Asphalt 7 and there are two bright sides no lag whatsoever on roadblocks and with the fog removed you get to enjoy much further draw distance
- If you still like to play the external view plus 1300 i suggest you try Eternity Project kernel with my interactive script, fastest but complex kernel for gaming and runs 1300 mode very smooth
Thanks for your good work. I'll try it now.
Those using the gaming kernel i seriously recommend switching to SIO scheduler for much less micro stutters
Hey all,
I've been playing Star Trek timelines since it came out and I've had a lot of fun with it. It played pretty well on my M8 and Moto X Pure.
However, the 10 has been problematic with they have being laggy and stuttery on it. I've tried it with combinations of LeeDroid, Viper10, and the EX kernel. The phone runs great otherwise, it's just in this game I have issues.
Please note I'm not blaming any of the devs for the issue. I think it's either hardware or I need to tweak some things. I'm not sure that running at the 2k resolution is the issue add it was fine on my X.
Are there any tweaks I could apply, perhaps at the kernel level, to help improve performance? I have the kernel overclocking cpu and gpu. I also have the governors set at ondemand (cpu) and performance (gpu). The only thing that seems to help is putting it into performance mode in EX manager. And of course, it gets a bit warm in that mode.
I love the phone. It's just been a bit disappointing gaming. The SD820's been a disappointment I that respect.
Does anyone have any thoughts for getting better gaming performance?
Thanks!
Super
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hi, i just get this P2XL for couple of weeks with second hand condition. after check all of necessary things i can figure out this phone is on good condition.
I'm switched from my poco F1 (sold it due to have ghost touch issue). performance just pretty nice on it while playing games.
i thought only a bit cpu downgrade just will never give much sense for Moba mobile games, but I'm wrong! it's so much disappointed to have lags/ stuttering while gaming on P2XL. just like I'm playing on my snapdragon 660.
i not give up yet & try switching to every custom ROMs here (A11) but makes no sense. cpu throttle destroy gaming experience every time...
last but not least, i just need to know if there's good suggestions for me (ROMs, kernels, mods or anything related) from you guys. but please DON'T SUGGEST ME TO CHANGE MY PHONE because it's so rude!
god bless you who could help me in any matters. thank you