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GPS built in?

So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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Wow, this from a Senior Member I hope all 199 post were not this wise.

nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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not again......

i know i know, but i ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to make it work. sadly, it probably isnt possible, but why not check and see if someone has found out a way to make it work?
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nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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It is right next to the 10 gig harddrive.

August Fools day

nstefanelli said:
i know i know, but i ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to make it work. sadly, it probably isnt possible, -Nstefanelli-
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i know i know, but you could search before you ask with the hope that one of our geniuses here have figured out a way to search before take the easy way out. sadly, it probably isnt possible

nstefanelli said:
So I just read somewhere that the our hermes have an on board gps chip built in.. any way to get it to work? or is it just there and there is no use for it? thanks
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Yes you did read correctly.
The htc hermes does have a GPS
chip it's circuits, however
the chip on all release platforms have had the chip deliberately disabled in the following manor.
1.drivers removed from the roms
2. crucial pins left unconnected
3. a few support components left out
4. antenna pins and support connections for both an internal and external antenna left nonexistent .
It's very unfortunate as I spent the better part of a month looking between the thread here and on 4winmobile only to find that the best of the best hardware hackers had failed to come up with a resolve due to usually lack of tools required, components difficult at times to obtain, and the almost 98% chance of unrepairably damaging the main pcb or the surrounding components in which you would then be left with the preverbial brick of which there is no safty net or special bootloader to save you. thusly I gave up and finally just did what most get when they buy or get the hermes withco pilot. I bought a good bluetooth gps receiver and loaded software for it to be used by. in this case it was tom tom 6.
I feel for you in this one as it would have been nice if the hermes was like the artimas [ie: o2 orbit, t-mobile mda compact]
and had it built in. But alas the is no technical resolve that can be achieved as of now for this other then to go bluetooth external receiver.
*hehe chalk one up for the noobs referring to the senior vs new members to the board which I find funny as I may not post as much as others but I know more then what the rating suggests heheh*

my question is why would high paid asian techs leave some gps chip that would not be used
that is not business like at all
just like carriers leaving ot the front video camera, and still charing ridiculous prices for the unit !!!!!!!!

VGA out/ IR Camera

Does anyone know where I could find a pin configuration chart for the display cable inside the uni?
I know its adventurous but I wouldnt mind making a monitor out!

joey7415963 said:
Does anyone know where I could find a pin configuration chart for the display cable inside the uni?
I know its adventurous but I wouldnt mind making a monitor out!
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Yes, i'm also things about that, but now don't have too much free time to play with it

Come on people does anyone know?
Or is this gonna be a long week with the multimeter and a few books!

SD to VGA adapter maybe??
I saw in one of the Windows mobile magazines that they make SD to VGA adapters. It mentioned that there was a microSD version soon to be released, and that there was a bluetooth product as well.

AllanonMage said:
I saw in one of the Windows mobile magazines that they make SD to VGA adapters. It mentioned that there was a microSD version soon to be released, and that there was a bluetooth product as well.
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If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.

beast0898 said:
If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.
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Interest information, do you know more details about that

Wow, that sounds kewl, might have to email HTC.
The only info I could find on this is whats in the Wiki anyways
The touch-screen controller given shows the pin-outs which should tell us the touch-screen pin-config'.
I've given up on this anyway so I turned my camera into a nightvision camera really easy to do!

joey7415963 said:
Wow, that sounds kewl, might have to email HTC.
The only info I could find on this is whats in the Wiki anyways
The touch-screen controller given shows the pin-outs which should tell us the touch-screen pin-config'.
I've given up on this anyway so I turned my camera into a nightvision camera really easy to do!
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Share more details, I too was playing before with camera and IR leds

sorry this will be mega rushed just realised im still in my pjs and gotta be at work soon!
Basically you dissasemble to PDA as shown in the wiki, then take apart camera base, behind it there should be a coloured filter (IR filter) take it out and replace with two really dark things (like the begining of a negative) then put together and take pictures in the dark whilst pushing a button on a remote control i will make a proper how to do thingy when im home tonight!
Bye for now!

IR Camera
Right first of all I think I tried it with my Uni and couldn't suss how to get to the IR filter but I tried it on my Nokia and its working like a charm!
1: Take apart the phone,
2: Uncouple camera,
3: Using a knife prise the four corners of the circuit board off the base of the camera (make sure you only go about 1mm in MAX! Also make sure you remember which way round it goes ),
4: Unscrew the lenses off the front,
5: Punch out the IR filter, this should be the slightly coloured one usually red (or find a way to take it out properly if you wanna keep it but mine was glued on),
6: Find an old photo album and take the negatives, look for the first part where it is just pure black (no pictures) and cut two circles out of it to place where the IR filter was, (this will be your visable light filter),
7: Reassemble,
8: Go somewhere dark and use a remote control as a light source and take photos!

beast0898 said:
If memory serves me correctly the Universal was original sold with an optional TV/VGA out cable. It may be worth posting on the HTC forum itself or digging around. I am pretty sure that it was only the first few G3 devices that were advertised as having these cables, but have had a dig around myself last year for these to no avail.
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yea i read it too...oh wait i think i remember where i read it....in the development n hacking section....they talked bout it...i think u can still buy those optional TV/VGA but the only problem is that u cant use the sd therefore u have to use the main memory which is not enough...

Tahmaseeb said:
yea i read it too...oh wait i think i remember where i read it....in the development n hacking section....they talked bout it...i think u can still buy those optional TV/VGA but the only problem is that u cant use the sd therefore u have to use the main memory which is not enough...
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Hmmm.... sounds interesting, I rekon it's gotta be expensive Oh well
thanks to everyone who has tried to help me I hope I've paid back with the
IR camera trick lol!

Rhodium Pics

A mate of mine bought a rhodium and kindly uploaded pics, have at it
I must say, it's pretty damn sexual.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmnnn, that's one nice phone. Thanks for the pictures.
Dave

I should add... that friend is me .
If anyone has questions I'll be happy to answer.

Damn you Oli - looks pretty damn nice.
You happy with it?
Dave

NIIIIIICE pics !! thanks for the upload..

I've had a bit more of a play with the device and as a previous Blackstone owner (Touch HD), there are some pretty noticeable differences in the UI which I'd thought I'd share for those who are interested and havn't yet got their own to play with.
Firstly, the start menu has now been totally replaced with a HTC version, which can be disabled it seems by browsing this forum, but TF3D offers no in-built method to disable it which is kind of annoying (see attached image).
Secondly, the TF3D menu style is extended into almost all programs. For example even in file explorer, opening the standard menu from the soft key shows a 'finger friendly enlarged menu' (see attached image).
Also the Bluetooth UI is completely different (see attached image).
Also a welcome change from the Blackstone is vibration feedback when using the on screen keyboard, and it also shows a button preview above the buttons when pressed (similar to the iPhone). Although this will be less useful since the device has a full QWERTY keyboard, but I'm assuming the Topaz (Diamond 2) has the same feature improvements, so it will be a welcome change for users of that device.

crypticalpha said:
I should add... that friend is me .
If anyone has questions I'll be happy to answer.
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Could you load Skyfire and see how it performs? Someone else mentioned that Skyfire was slow and i got the feeling that he just didn't want to do it.
How is the redraw in Opera, and most importantly how is the battery life?

Great pics
Thanks!

What does it use for a notification light on the front? I can't really find one...

I wanna ask, is there a proximity sensor or no? Cuz when reading some specs, some say it does have one, some don't say anything. The HTC website doesn't mention anything either.. So?

The more pics I see of the it , the better it looks! Can't wait to get it in the States!

LordLugard said:
Could you load Skyfire and see how it performs? Someone else mentioned that Skyfire was slow and i got the feeling that he just didn't want to do it.
How is the redraw in Opera, and most importantly how is the battery life?
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Can you clarify what you mean by redraw? Do you mean when you scroll around and have to wait for the page to be displayed in the newly visible area? As for battery life, no idea yet sorry. Havn't done much testing in that area.
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What does it use for a notification light on the front? I can't really find one...
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There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
orbitalen said:
I wanna ask, is there a proximity sensor or no? Cuz when reading some specs, some say it does have one, some don't say anything. The HTC website doesn't mention anything either.. So?
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I can confirm there is. If I make a call and hold the phone to my head, the screen dims, when I bring it back down it comes to life again. Pretty cool .
What I will add though it the CorePlayer movie speed seems to be a bit better than the Touch HD (well from my experience anyway). I have only tried one 350MB TV Episode so far, but it managed 90.34% in a benchmark with a framerate of 21.7. Although there wasnt a lot of 'action' in my test video so it might be worse with other videos.

3g?
does the phone have 3g but for the US, specifically AT&T??, ohh and nice phone can't wait to buy it.

crypticalpha said:
There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
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Sweetness. Doesnt seem as spiffy as the light on the Fuze, but good enough.
Thanx for the pic to BTW.

crypticalpha said:
There aew two LED's on the top of the unit on either side of the speaker. The one on the left seems to indicate charge with an orange LED and notifications with a flashing green LED. Not sure what the other LED does yet (See attached image).
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This is probably the ambient light detector for automatic control of LCD brightness under varying light levels.

I haven't seen the keyboard quite that close up before. Looks like there are Caps and FN LEDs at the top.
Thanks for the pics

oquen2001 said:
does the phone have 3g but for the US, specifically AT&T??, ohh and nice phone can't wait to buy it.
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There are two versions of the phone, one that supports 850MHz UMTS and one that does 900MHz UMTS.
My phone is the 900MHz version, which is what the networks in Australia use (EXCEPT for Telstra Next-G which is 850MHz in regional areas).
I 'THINK' the US uses the 850MHz UMTS band but since I don't live there, I can't really say for sure. But I do not know if the 850MHz version will be released at the same time.

would it be possible for you to take some pictures with the phone and some video so we can see the quality? Thanks!

doctajay said:
would it be possible for you to take some pictures with the phone and some video so we can see the quality? Thanks!
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I believe there's a sample video linked in the pocketnow full review--see quarintus' review thread in this forum for a link.

Well, when Olipro' mate has got this baby, we can expect Hard SPL on the way very soon.
Regards,
Carty..

Harrier and Blue Angel - twins or cousins?

As we′ve lately discussed the question if HR has got a built-in wifi-device similar to BA I'm starting this thread in close connection to D-Two's Android for Blue Angel-Thread. Hoping to have some Harrier at hand pretty soon, built-in parts will be listed.
Right from the start my thanks go to GnatGoSplat!
:highfive:

I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.

GnatGoSplat said:
I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.
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Can you say which GPS chip?
EDIT: ok i think this chip is the real different!!
datasheet this chip is for GPS and CDMA...

I haven't taken it apart to see the chip, but yes, I think it does have an MSM5500 inside from what I could find on Google, and that chip does have the GPS and CDMA included so I'm sure that must be it.

GnatGoSplat said:
I haven't taken it apart to see the chip, but yes, I think it does have an MSM5500 inside from what I could find on Google, and that chip does have the GPS and CDMA included so I'm sure that must be it.
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ok, so we need for the harrier a linux driver for the chip and the harrier is fully work :victory:

Does Linux/Android treat the MSM5500 like a modem? I have seen references to Linux drivers for USB modems that use the MSM5500 chip.
Like this: http://www.ka9q.net/5220.html
Although I don't know anything about Linux so I don't know if any info there is useful.

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Does Linux/Android treat the MSM5500 like a modem? I have seen references to Linux drivers for USB modems that use the MSM5500 chip.
Like this: http://www.ka9q.net/5220.html
Although I don't know anything about Linux so I don't know if any info there is useful.
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that is a good start for phone stuff :good:

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ok, so we need for the harrier a linux driver for the chip and the harrier is fully work :victory:
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So at this point we just need to figure out the gpios that power the modem, and figure out what the interface is...serial,usb, or dpram? i didn't look at that datasheet but does it show that?

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I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.
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And Harrier has its backup-battery where BA has its wifi-antenna.
Just today got some harriers, maybe a scan of an unshielded mainboard will be helpful to you.

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And Harrier has its backup-battery where BA has its wifi-antenna.
Just today got some harriers, maybe a scan of an unshielded mainboard will be helpful to you.
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O.K.- scanning had been a stupid idea- those modern machines don't give a sharp&deep enough pic.
Now made several photos of unshielded BA & Harrier mainboard. Will upload tomorrow.
For first two pics, didn't have good light yesterday evening.
Interesting: Harriers' GPS-antenna is placed where BA has bluetooth; harriers' bluetooth is next to IR.
The area under black foil is for simcard-holder.
Flashlight of harrier can't be built in BA, has got two spiral contacts on motherboard.

The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?

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The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?
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Have you test the bluetooth in android?

I haven't tried it, but I will make note to try it next time.

GnatGoSplat said:
The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?
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Switched Display of HA and BA, worked on both devices. As there are three different screens, madcap me luckily took the right one at first attempt
I won't have time before mid next week to provide better pics, but if anyone wants to know something about print on some part, take my pic, mark the part and send it to me- i'll take a look. Hope to make annotated pics soon...
O.K., here first three pics from one side:

B-44 said:
Switched Display of HA and BA, worked on both devices. As there are three different screens, madcap me luckily took the right one at first attempt
I won't have time before mid next week to provide better pics, but if anyone wants to know something about print on some part, take my pic, mark the part and send it to me- i'll take a look. Hope to make annotated pics soon...
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Can you make a better pic from Qualcomm chip? Is the camera the same from blueangel?

...and now three from ther other:

d-two said:
Can you make a better pic from Qualcomm chip? Is the camera the same from blueangel?
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Boy, you're too fast
Will check both today afternoon and post tomorrow. If pic doesnt work, i'll write it down.
(I know, these pics are quick'n'dirty, but as i wrote- it's a question of time. Will improve asap.)
Qualcomm... my EF82 also runs with it:fingers-crossed:
P.S.: Just found these three pics. But QC-chip is hard to read.
At the cam you see top right two brass squares- are the contacts of flashlight conjuncting to the spiral ones on the mainboard.
Will compare BA and HA cam, and IF they should be different mount HA cam in BA to test if it works.
P.P.S.: Will check BOTH Qualcomm-chips.

If you download my pic HAV3 (third in post#14) and turn it 90° left you can pretty good read it.
Small QC-chip:
PM 1000
QUALCOMM
46A0VCT
FF
Large QC-chip:
QUALCOMM
MSM 5500
CP90-V2400-13
QG2M0
QG4H8
0428004H800 R

Can please test this on Harrier...
start Mtty select USB and type: (don't copy and paste!!!)
Code:
password |40r0~0y~~5~0000
it looks it is static?!

d-two said:
Is the camera the same from blueangel?
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Both devices as it seems got same camera.
on either flexconnector is printed
ADCM-2650-6501
Harrier /083
Blue Angel/007.
The groundboard is marked
HA /043803
MAC 016
BA /050303
MAC 013.

Possible uses for IR Blaster

So I was thinking about my IR blaster in my phone today and what I could do with it.
I wanted to if the following things were physically possible using the M8.
- Distance finder or security laser beam. By transmitting IR light and bouncing it off of a mirror and then the receiver in the phone would pick it up and determine the distance or if light has been received.
- Controlling a remote control helicopter. I could imagine this is possible since the RC heli uses IR anyway, but how would I do it, since my remote control for my heli is not functional.
Thank you in advance

If you know or can get the codes for your helicopter you can program them into smart ir.

Audrino man...AUDRINO !!!
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk

I was thinking of using Arduino, but I wasn't that desperate to do it, I was just interested if it was possible and how cool it wouldbe to do it?
Doesn't the M8 have a IR reciever to program codes into apps?

lachiepower0402 said:
I was thinking of using Arduino, but I wasn't that desperate to do it, I was just interested if it was possible and how cool it wouldbe to do it?
Doesn't the M8 have a IR reciever to program codes into apps?
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Yes if youre remote is working? :what:

What I meant by that, was that the purpose of the IR receiver was to program codes, but was it possible to use it for other purposes such as the one I mentioned in the OP?

I've thought about it, and the possibilities. It depends a lot on how much experience you have with programming. I'm no noob when it comes to programming, as I constantly hone on my c++ programming skills. I'm actually curious about it too. You should check out evilzone.org. the website has massive resources about audrino. I myself also have a lot of audrino PDFs... If interested I can send you the gdrive link
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B6DLHfxd4Nx-RW12SVFRMzVTREU/edit
PS....I've got a **** load of other PDFs about all kinds of programming from JavaScript to Python...
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Thanks for those PDF's but the most coding I have done is Visual Basic 2010 and bit of Xcode. But I was just hoping their was already an app on the market to do such a thing or if it was physically possible for the phone to send and receive and IR signal a few times every second.
I would love to get into coding, but I just don't have the time to code and bug fix.

I haven't seen or heard of such an app...I've never enjoyed VB...Friend of mine uses VIM, but all of that PHP crap gives me a headache.