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Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001
patience.... patience....
well, I think this thread might be a good thread to collect information on this topic.
I would also like to have Internet (SIP) calling from WM6
I currently use SjPhone and it is fine but it really has no integration with the OS.
So the greatest addition of WM6 voip calling feature would be integration.
However, it should be highly customizable (sip server selection, codec selection etc.)
Can we make this thread sticky ? I think Golfman has collected some important links under his post.
Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.
Prerna said:
Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.
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Skype is Voip but not SIP. Some of us would love a nicely integrated SIP client.
I'm using Skype and X-Pro now, but i would prefer a real built-in SIP Client.
Perhaps it isn't that hard to get it running...
I also use Octrotalk. That's googletalk for WM5
It really works fine with voice.
But that's not SIP again.
We really miss an integrated sip client which can be customizable like SJphone.
Perhaps a sticky thread on this issue would help us but no one makes that.
Sleuth... you not sharing something you found?
I'm curious about something.
The one thing I don't like about Skype is because it doesn't allow me to use my bt headset. Now this VOIP that would be intergrated in wm6 does anyone know if it will let you use bt headset like with regular phone calls?
I mean is this basicly like Skype where you can make free phone calls? If you have unlimited data of course..
Just curious
Skype and misc VoIP...
I run X-Pro at the moment as my SIP client, I used SJPhone and had to do some tweaking to stop the voice jitter - XPro just seems to work better.
On WM6 and "Internet Calling", I've tried some of the xml settings but no dice at the moment - I've not enough time to really go through the M$ docs its a bit of a paper blizzard.
I'm personally not a fan of Skype for several reasons.
-READ THE SMALL PRINT OF THE EULA, ESPECIALLY REGARDING BEING MADE A SUPERNODE
- Its a closed protocol
- Only allows single session
I like SIP, however it does have some NAT issues
One thing that I was disappointed when I got my Hermes phone and I'm not sure if anybody can come up with a solution. Once the phone goes into standby, the Wi-Fi radio turns off to save power. Therefore unless a SIP call is coming in on a Cellular data-plan, the SIP client only works when you want to make a call - would be nice if the built in WM6 client had true radio integration, it might just not be possible unless you want a dead battery real fast.
I was hoping to be able to use my Cell Phone as a cordless in the house (connecting to my SIP server in the house). Dedicated SIP Wi-Fi phones are still way to expensieve.
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Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001
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You will find the solution for what you are looking for at http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/299950//
--eluth.
yeah iwill like to see a nice sip client integrated in the rom
Works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682
great cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682
Dear all,
I´m desperately trying to get the VOIP function running. I´ve read the whole 72 pages of the VOIP thread, but no success.
My phone is connected to the VOIP provider, I can call other parties and I can receive calls.
My problem: While the other party can hear me, I do not hear ANYTHING on my Artemis. Not with the built in speaker, not with stereospeakers, not with bluetooth and not with the wired headset.
I´ve tried nearly everything, but no success
Any ideas anyone???
Regards,
Ingo
Same problem here...
burli said:
Dear all,
I´m desperately trying to get the VOIP function running. I´ve read the whole 72 pages of the VOIP thread, but no success.
My phone is connected to the VOIP provider, I can call other parties and I can receive calls.
My problem: While the other party can hear me, I do not hear ANYTHING on my Artemis. Not with the built in speaker, not with stereospeakers, not with bluetooth and not with the wired headset.
I´ve tried nearly everything, but no success
Any ideas anyone???
Regards,
Ingo
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I also have exactly the same problem. No sound what so ever ... With SJPhone everything is quite OK but through external speaker. I wanted to have the native VOIP running mostly for using internal speaker... If any body has any good hack for it please share it.... Thanx, Babak
Solved!
burli said:
Dear all,
I´m desperately trying to get the VOIP function running. I´ve read the whole 72 pages of the VOIP thread, but no success.
My phone is connected to the VOIP provider, I can call other parties and I can receive calls.
My problem: While the other party can hear me, I do not hear ANYTHING on my Artemis. Not with the built in speaker, not with stereospeakers, not with bluetooth and not with the wired headset.
I´ve tried nearly everything, but no success
Any ideas anyone???
Regards,
Ingo
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I solved the problem! The problem that we couldn't hear anuthing because it doesn't allow sip on 5060 port. What you have to do you just change the following registry:
HKLM\System\VoIP\SIP
EnablePort5060 = "1"
when it's "0" you don't get the port open and that's why you don't hear anything. It worked for me I hope it works for you as well. In addition it's realy nice cause you get the sound coming from the internal speaker
Regards, Babak
babak_73 said:
I solved the problem! The problem that we couldn't hear anuthing because it doesn't allow sip on 5060 port. What you have to do you just change the following registry:
HKLM\System\VoIP\SIP
EnablePort5060 = "1"
when it's "0" you don't get the port open and that's why you don't hear anything. It worked for me I hope it works for you as well. In addition it's realy nice cause you get the sound coming from the internal speaker
Regards, Babak
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Didn´t work for me
Same problem with me and my p3300 with WM6 leaked from HTC.
SIP client is working almost perfectly, but i can't hear anything. Registry trick didn't help.
It did not work for me either with the leaked WM6 ROM. I still have no inbound sound. I do not even get the tone during dialing.
I solved the problem! The problem that we couldn't hear anuthing because it doesn't allow sip on 5060 port. What you have to do you just change the following registry:
HKLM\System\VoIP\SIP
EnablePort5060 = "1"
when it's "0" you don't get the port open and that's why you don't hear anything. It worked for me I hope it works for you as well. In addition it's realy nice cause you get the sound coming from the internal speaker
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Didn´t work!
No possible to change this bug?
babak_73 said:
I solved the problem! The problem that we couldn't hear anuthing because it doesn't allow sip on 5060 port. What you have to do you just change the following registry:
HKLM\System\VoIP\SIP
EnablePort5060 = "1"
when it's "0" you don't get the port open and that's why you don't hear anything. It worked for me I hope it works for you as well. In addition it's realy nice cause you get the sound coming from the internal speaker
Regards, Babak
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Could you please export your whole registry?
It seems that there must be something else what worked for you.
No success up until now...
Try this...
Hi Guys,
Sorry for a bit late in reply. Here is to go: First try to install the attached CAB file. After reset change the registry as mentioned above and then reset. Use SIP configuration to set up your account (for example your VOIP-Buster) Then first your WLAN on and then VOIP calling. When you get connected to SIP server make your call. The sound quality is not perfect and surely needs lots of improvement. But at least it's working. Let me know whether it works.
Regards, Babak
Doesn't work for me, i try several times different wm6 voip.cab and always the same... i can connect, i can call, people heard me, i have no sound...
Try the same with a wizard (same voip cab, same voip provider), works with one rom (but with the external speaker), doesn't work with others...
With Artemis, all roms i try doesn't work.
Wich rom do you use ?
SuperMimi said:
Doesn't work for me, i try several times different wm6 voip.cab and always the same... i can connect, i can call, people heard me, i have no sound...
Try the same with a wizard (same voip cab, same voip provider), works with one rom (but with the external speaker), doesn't work with others...
With Artemis, all roms i try doesn't work.
Wich rom do you use ?
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I use PDAVIET Rom Back&Blue v3 . It works quite well for me actually. There is only one problem: when I receive a call through my VOIP number most of the times I hear them but not the other side! When you make calls evrything seems to work just fine.
babak_73 said:
I use PDAVIET Rom Back&Blue v3 . It works quite well for me actually. There is only one problem: when I receive a call through my VOIP number most of the times I hear them but not the other side! When you make calls evrything seems to work just fine.
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Do you have install other software ?
Or change the ipdialplan ?
SuperMimi said:
Do you have install other software ?
Or change the ipdialplan ?
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I don't understand.....
I try another voip cab (voipfr.cab) reset, retry... and it works (without having change the registry with 5060 at 1) with the external speaker (not very high level)....
Very weird !!!!
SuperMimi said:
I don't understand.....
I try another voip cab (voipfr.cab) reset, retry... and it works (without having change the registry with 5060 at 1) with the external speaker (not very high level)....
Very weird !!!!
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Have you tried to receive calls through your voip number also? Do they hear you from other side? Yes, indeed the sound quality is really bad. I still use SJPhone with headset with has great sound quality.
babak_73 said:
Have you tried to receive calls through your voip number also? Do they hear you from other side? Yes, indeed the sound quality is really bad. I still use SJPhone with headset with has great sound quality.
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Yes I can receive call and all works.
(I just modify the ipdialplan to change the caller ID from sip:[email protected] to only xxxxxxxx).
By the way, if it can help others people, I've installed voipfr.cab found here :
http://freud.e-diffusion.net/glofiish/Applications/VoIP/VoIPFR.CAB
(After install wm6voip.cab (from VI Black & config....) and without uninstall this one.)
Mix of different files and version...
Work in my Artemis with leaked HTC 3.5 and last OS 3.7 from Dopod Asia.
Work with external speaker.
Hope it can help somebody
Just install and config your SIP provider, eventually change ipdialplan.xml...
Great!!
it works fine now, but the quality is pretty poor, pls if someone knows how to get better quality pls share if possible. thx guys.
ryu101 said:
it works fine now, but the quality is pretty poor, pls if someone knows how to get better quality pls share if possible. thx guys.
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Enjoy it can help you, the quality is poor with internal speaker, try a BT headset or wire headset, quality if a little better (very little).
Hello,
I'm raising big hopes about the scheduled WM6 upgrade (i'm waiting for the official one, not t-mobile's or russian one) but in the meantime, do you know if there is an working SIP client for my s620 ?
By working, i mean that the audio is correctly routed, I don't want to use an headset.
I've tried fring, skype, bewip, gosip. I don't mind purchasing a piece of software if it work well.
Thanks
as much as i know.. the very best (for the moment) is skype..
and the headset i think it is not big deal to use..
just my opinion..
Oh, pick me! I know the answer! Me! Me! Me!
Well, if you wanna go proprietary, Skype'll do the job. But you want SIP, so that puts Skype right out. The correct answer was Fring™. Fring is a free MSN/ICQ/Skype/SIP client that claims to operate over WiFi and GPRS. I've only tested it over WiFi, and I'm doubtful that GPRS will be enough to make it work right (EDGE, maybe). Thankfully, Fring™ is free, and all you have to do is go to their web site. The entire process can even be done on your phone.
I could never get the WM6 Internet Calling app to work. Others have reported that the connection drops (although the wi-fi connection is still up) after 15 minutes. Another user and myself had the same config (aside from username/password and phone number), his worked, mine didn't.
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
Greg530 said:
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
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Yes, but the fact I can't have sound from earpiece is a problem...
Hello,
I've got a Tytn Smartphone. Yesterday I installed a sip-client which is discriped here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317072
I set up the settings of the Internetphone that it should be only active when there is no mobile service available.
Unfortunately I've got noe a problem: When someone calls me and the smartphone is in standby the mobile switches on but there is no sign of a incomming call. Even when the caller finish calling there is no sign of a missed call.
I've tried it with every mode but it only works normally (but not in every case) when my WLAN is off and there is no chance to connect to my SIP server.
I only want to use the sip-client for incomming calls so it has to be online in case someone is calling. Another question: Is WLAN online even when the device is in standby? I've set it up like that but when I switch the device on the sign of "getting WLAN connected" appears.
I would be very happy for fast help because I miss a lot of calls and don't even notice that!
meinereiner
PS Is it normal that set up a call is getting very slow when the SIP client ist conneted?
Hmm
what WM6 are you using? Is it the official ROM? There is always an option of a cooked ROM, and I noticed I am able to do it with this instruction fine. Slow on start up but when running it is OK. Hope this helps.
Hi,
thanks for your replay.
I've sing an offical WM6 of my phone provider (CE OS 5.2.1238 Build 17745.0.2.3). Unfortunately I don't know which information you like to know.
I've deinstalled my software and installed the software you suggested. Unfortunately this software doen't connect to my SIP server, so I can't use it.
Are there other software modules I could test?
I thought this is a software module of microsoft which is hidden on the tytn devices?
meinereiner
Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.
SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE
since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.
I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.
Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.
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Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.
I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223