Detailed HTC Touch Pro2 review - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi guys,
Here's a detailed review about the HTC Touch Pro2.
It's in Dutch, but even if you can't read it (or perhaps use Google Translator) you'll enjoy looking at the pics.
There are three demo videos showing the interface and multimedia, and the proof that the AC T110 TV out cable will work (the original Touch Pro cable).
Link to the review.

Awesome! Thanks for the tip!

heres the link for the englis translation via google
http://translate.google.com/transla...opic.php?t=80&f=9&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=

Thanks great review!

pretty good review. Handles almost 90% of the things I wan't to know about the phone

informative review...keep them coming!

hey, check out this video in case you want to see the sprint mogul vs the TP2:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5a7p20
1280x720 @ 60fps! make sure you can handle the playback!
now w/ Youtube HD link! (only 30fps though)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwqaGumWJgQ

There is no info about the FM radio??? It seems missing in the TP2

ed_bracam said:
There is no info about the FM radio??? It seems missing in the TP2
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Radio or not, man, I want this phone and I will go buy it if it's available tomorrow. So fast and smooth. Sounds great too! I can do without the radio.

2 questions....
1. In that review, it said it comes with ultra clear screen protector. do you really think it will come with one or will i have to buy one separately?
2. Question about the accelerometer. when you pull the keyboard out the screen switches to landscape mode. Do you think if you just turn the phone sideways that the screen will turn to landscape mode (with the keyboard closed)????

EazyDeazy said:
2 questions....
1. In that review, it said it comes with ultra clear screen protector. do you really think it will come with one or will i have to buy one separately?
2. Question about the accelerometer. when you pull the keyboard out the screen switches to landscape mode. Do you think if you just turn the phone sideways that the screen will turn to landscape mode (with the keyboard closed)????
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1. Yes for sure. All my HTC phones came with screen protectors.
2. No, you will need a tweak to switch the home screen to landscape mode by turning the phone. Some software will work by turning the phone but not the home screen.

That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?

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That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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Huh? what do you mean? In what way would landscape mode be USEFUL with the keyboard not open? I don't understand. In the browser, with the keyboard closed, you should be able to rotate the phone and the screen will rotate...also with photos, and anything else you need to do in landscape...but a landscape switch for TouchFlo3D without the keyboard out is kinda pointless, no?
I don't mean to start a massive fight about it, but I don't want my phone rotating touch flo like crazy just because I am holding the phone a certain way. What if I am gesturing towards something with the TouchPro2 in my hand and when I bring my hand back, everything is all landscape and I have to wait for it to rotate back?
I don't think this is dumb, and I feel it can easily be fixed with just a software tweak. Shouldn't be hard at all...although I do not understand what you would need it for.

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That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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No...Your idea is more stupid. like NeoDMD said, I dont want my home screen rotating everytime I move. It is useful for certain applications but definitely not the home screen.!

hopefully the transition between home screen and landscape mode is very fast, hopefully no load time

so like some applications will take you into landscape mode even if you have the keyboard closed like it you played a video or went into camera mode right or even internet browser?

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You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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Nope. I don't have the TILT, but my P3600i and HD came with one. I know the TD2, Cruise and Cruise 2 also comes with one. So I presume most of them will. Maybe they didn't give it to you or it was stolen from your box

BTW, I saw the video on the TV-Out part and there was some flickering near the end of the movie where they were using coreplayer. Does anyone know what he is talking about and why it is flickering like mad?
Many thanks!

NeoDMD said:
Huh? what do you mean? In what way would landscape mode be USEFUL with the keyboard not open? ... but a landscape switch for TouchFlo3D without the keyboard out is kinda pointless, no?
I don't mean to start a massive fight about it, but I don't want my phone rotating touch flo like crazy just because I am holding the phone a certain way.
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I believe the point would be to be able read it comfortably while holding it in landscape. Why would I need the keyboard open to use TF3d? And why wouldn't I want to use TF3D in landscape mode? I'm going to be reading, watching vids, and browsing in landscape mode. Do I have to rotate back to portrait every single time I go back into TF3D?
I don't understand. In the browser, with the keyboard closed, you should be able to rotate the phone and the screen will rotate...also with photos, and anything else you need to do in landscape...
What if I am gesturing towards something with the TouchPro2 in my hand and when I bring my hand back, everything is all landscape and I have to wait for it to rotate back?
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Isn't that still a problem for other apps? Like the browser etc. If you're willing to accept the problem there, what's so crazy about someone else being willing to risk it everywhere?
I don't think this is dumb, and I feel it can easily be fixed with just a software tweak. Shouldn't be hard at all...although I do not understand what you would need it for.
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Honestly what'd I like more than accelerometer detection is the ability to fix everything in landscape (although I could stand the phone app being in portrait) permanently. Portrait is next to useless to me. I'm new to winmo, but do you think someone will/has tweak(ed) it that way? Or is there a control panel setting?

I am too a bit disappointed that the homescreen landscape choice isn't there from the factory (without the kb open)
How do we use this phone in the car in a holder while using it also as an GPS device. I would have to use a holder that can hold it kb out or then i'd need a rotating holder to flip it every time i go out of the GPS. Not a big pain, but still.
How about a button (on the screen) to make it flip to landscape (similar to the one that triggers the phone when the kb is open)

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animated screenrotation?

hi everybody!
is there an application that animates the rotation of the screen to landscape and back, wehen you open the keyboard? would be awesome..!
dcan said:
hi everybody!
is there an application that animates the rotation of the screen to landscape and back, wehen you open the keyboard? would be awesome..!
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M8 are u serious? As i know (im an x1 owner) does the screen rotate to all panels so dunno what ur problem is :S
sexivito said:
M8 are u serious? As i know (im an x1 owner) does the screen rotate to all panels so dunno what ur problem is :S
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he means the screen like in the omnia..not the panels.
i dont no of a program that does this!!
press x-panels button and make some slidings - panels animation is slow as hell!! and you want smooth screen animation ? )
no, i'm not talking about the panels at all...(eventhoug it really IS slow as hell;-) )!
rotastrain (#3) got it right..when you rotate for instance the omnia screen to landscape, you have a nice animated rotation...this is what i'm looking for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk1ZF3bcPMo
seeing that, it's probably an application. Do count on slow performance on the X1 (4x more pixels to render), but I guess it's possible to install.
There are threads on other parts of XDA, filled with Omnia applications.
I suggest you find those, see if this is there.
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no, i'm not talking about the panels at all...
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i know
but... you really think it will be so fast on xperia?
ok, i saw this question has been asked about 100times before in other places in this forum...:-D! without answer so far...doesn't seem to be that easy!
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i know
but... you really think it will be so fast on xperia?
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no idea..but at least worth trying..
What I am understanding what you want is a mod or app that Rotates the screen like the Omnia when the accelerometer changes it to landscape from portrait, what you want is something that creates a smooth animation when the X1 keyboard slides open to change to landscape from portrait ?
well I thought it would have been intergrated in the Windows Mobile 6.1 as a custom rom from samsung firmware,
but I guess if its a cab. then it should be possible to add in or it might be possible to intergrate from the Omnia. (Im using Win Mobile 6.5 and It would be nice to have that too ) but since the Omnia has about 620mhz processor compared to 516mhz or 520mhz (what ever the Xperia has) it most likely would experience lag when changing.
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but I guess if its a cab. then it should be possible to add in or it might be possible to intergrate from the Omnia. (Im using Win Mobile 6.5 and It would be nice to have that too ) but since the Omnia has about 620mhz processor compared to 516mhz or 520mhz (what ever the Xperia has) it most likely would experience lag when changing.
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we said that about touchflo, winmo 6.5 and manila 2.5 (which is probably made for snapdragon porcessors clocking at over 1ghz, possibly dual core with graphics accel etc etc etc)...its never impossible

Optical Joystick (Trackpad?)

I've see much vids of Desire but none of them reveal the capabilities of the new joystick. What are its functions, is it more close to joystick or a trackpad?
its like the trackball of the other android devices, just optical -> u can slide over it....and if u hold your finger on the optic sensor u can klick with it, somebody said in a video that u'll get hardware feedback when using the optical joy
edit: at 0:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjsEP_D3Os&feature=related
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
djet said:
Yeah I saw that vid. Simple swiping and clicking can be done with touch screen either. A demonstration of more precise operations is needed.
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What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
brummiesteven said:
What more precise operations?
Thats all you're going to do with it lol, swiping and clicking.
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A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
it's an optical trackball, for want of a better term.
In the same way that you get optical mice as opposed to a mouse with a ball in the bottom. The optical trackpad is simply an optical version of the scroll ball... in other words, same functions as the regular scroll ball without the moving parts.
djet said:
A real joystick or a real trackpad allows much more than swiping and clicking.
For example, you can hold a joystick direction to trigger autorepeat or make really fast movements without taking finger off.
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Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
brummiesteven said:
Would this be your first android device?
You don't really need to do that in android, I don't think I ever have on the G1
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It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
there may be an option to add shortcuts when clicking at home screen......like one tab go to appA two tabs go to appB...dunno some imagination
ClausG76 said:
It would be usefull in some apps like games or emulators.
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This is what I want too.
Dont want my big thumbs messing up the whole screen.
I look forward to the optical tracking system. I suppose it may be because I don't play action style games. I'm more of a puzzle/cards kind of guy. There are very few times I play phone games any how.
Actually i can't see the optical version making more sense, than the mechanical.
I personally almost never use it.
I believe its main uses would be as a hardware camera-button (that is, for taking the photo), and to scroll in text when typing.
Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
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Yep....Useless....I use my trackball about once every couple of days. Touch here and touch there is much faster... Oh wait I use it whenever I install a new ROM.. Just checking the threads trying to find something.
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That's why desire is good, no trackball sticking out! Nice and small button with optical tracking ;-)
Can it be used like the N1 trackball for missed calls and sms??
Blinking lights I mean
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
jpxdude said:
Just to answer a couple of questions:
1) There is no notification light on the optical trackpad.
2) I've tried this with the Nesoid emulator and while it works, it's pretty terrible to use for directional control, but maybe OK for any games that require 'swiping' motions.
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does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
Gibbz1 said:
does the onscreen pad and buttons support multitouch? you can use dpad while pressing A for example?
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Hi There,
It does support Multitouch, but it is pretty fiddly, I think because the image of the onscreen d-pad and buttons to not line up exactly on the Desire with Nesoid. I have had more luck with the multitouch using Snesoid, which feels very good! (i.e, in Super Mario All-Stars I can run and jump at the same time)

[Q] Disabling the screen orienation from going to upsidedown-landscape.

Hi guys. Well here's the deal. I used to have the very app for this, but deleted it while ago so need to find it again. Basically, I want the screen orienation to change when I tilt the phone, but only to normal landscape. I do NOT want the phone to going into the upside down landscape because I NEVER use it that way and it sometimes switches to that side which delays me and such so it gets annoying. How can I prevent the phone from switching to the other side of landscape, but it be able to go into landscape? I tried Tasker, but that didn't work too well.
thanks for the help guys!
P.S. I am rooted and have CM7
its either in cm settings or spare parts.
I couldn't find it :/
Cyanogenmod settings, display, rotate 180
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That's not what he's talking about. He's talking about the opposite of land so 260?
LOL, basically when I enable auto-rotate, I only want the screen to switch to portrait and landscape. I don't want it to switch upside-down, or to the other side of landscape.
When you enable auto-rotate, the screen can rotate in 3 diff positions. I only want it to be able to switch into 2.
The App you are looking for is called "Rotation Control" created by rpor.
Ranto said:
The App you are looking for is called "Rotation Control" created by rpor.
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This is great, I also did not like the 3rd rotation like the OP, but it never bothered me enough to complain about it.
The app suggested works GREAT. Thank you for this little quiet gem!
Ranto said:
The App you are looking for is called "AutoRotation Control" created by rpor.
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Fixed for ya dude as i found the app
This is for all devices and can't be changed, this is on all OS.
I AM VS4 said:
This is for all devices and can't be changed, this is on all OS.
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no its not on all versions of android at all. if you tilt your phone to the right it goes into landscape. mine did not do that on my g1 but does on my desire z. only if you tilt the phone to the left would it go landscape.

soft keys with game emulators?

I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
ARPwizard said:
I'm going to get a Gnex soon, and one of the main things I will want to do play my old games. I heard the soft keys are not on screen when not used, so what do you do to bring up the soft keys? And if they were always there that would kind of ruin the experience for games and movies, wouldn't it? I plan to use bt and on screen controllers so if the keys were always on screen that could cause problems. Thanks for helping a noob.
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The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
Mach3.2 said:
The soft keys turn into a dot, it will still be there.
The API for it is for videos, where you won't be touching your screen. Once you touch your screen, the button,s will pop back out, so the API won't work for games.
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Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the tv? Thanks again.
ARPwizard said:
Thanks for the info. What does API mean? I Googled it but I couldn't figure it out. So on an emulator, the d-pad may be right next to the softkeys and possible to hit at any given time? Also, when outputting with HDMI to a TV, are the keys or dots on the screen? Thanks again.
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Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
Mach3.2 said:
Nah, i did not hit the softkeys on accident while playing pokemon
Outputting on HDMI is basically mirroring your phone's display, so the softkeys will still be a dot.
API: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
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Cool thanks. Sounds good. I'm hoping for a price drop on Monday, and I'm still deciding about the gnex or an unlocked gs2 skyrocket. I'm a big fan of the gs2 aesthetically having used an epic 4g touch extensively.
the benifit of on-screen buttons is when your finger slides from the display area to the navbar, it knows and doesn't do anything (unless you lift your finger before pressing it)
so in games like osu it's so helpful (i have accidentally pressed the back button on my razr while playing)
You can always use a custom ROM that allows you to disable the buttons in the power menu. I know AOKP has it and it works flawlessly.
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Cool thats good information thanks for helping a noob

New amazing feature I found after Marshmallow update !!!

So, I found this feature by mistake and I have been looking for something about it on the Web and can't find anyone talking about it.
After the Marshmallow update (coincidence or not, someone tell me) I have been able to dim the screen manually whenever I want by covering the whole of the watch screen! It's an amazing feature and doesn't require any proximity sensor or whatever.
Is this really new or am I telling you something so "known" that I should hide myself? :angel:
Nevertheless, I felt I should open this thread so that anyone who didn't know it until now, like me, gets to know this amazing feature.
And who already knew, how did huawei manage to do this? The screen must support multi-touch so that it feels several fingers covering the whole screen huh? I've made some tests and it is actually really really accurate.
Try it for yourself :highfive:
This feature worked for me from day one on Huawei, even before the new Marshmallow update.
Cool feature, but been there previously...
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nunoovidigal said:
So, I found this feature by mistake and I have been looking for something about it on the Web and can't find anyone talking about it.
After the Marshmallow update (coincidence or not, someone tell me) I have been able to dim the screen manually whenever I want by covering the whole of the watch screen! It's an amazing feature and doesn't require any proximity sensor or whatever.
Is this really new or am I telling you something so "known" that I should hide myself? :angel:
Nevertheless, I felt I should open this thread so that anyone who didn't know it until now, like me, gets to know this amazing feature.
And who already knew, how did huawei manage to do this? The screen must support multi-touch so that it feels several fingers covering the whole screen huh? I've made some tests and it is actually really really accurate.
Try it for yourself :highfive:
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Yeah, it's been around for awhile. I guess you didn't go through the introductory demo. I believe the feature has been around since the beginning. I remember seeing it on my old Moto 360 1.0.
On mine it doesn't work? Does it have something to do with the fact that the watch is connected with the iPhone?
Sorry to rain on your parade but as I recall, that was right in the intro tutorial!
Is there a setting to turn this off and on? I can't seem to get this to work. My watch is paired with a Nexus 6.
this feature will work when you have ambient sensor like the 360
noobandroid said:
this feature will work when you have ambient sensor like the 360
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This feature uses multiple touch points and does not need an extra sensor. It worked on the Huawei from day one.
Got it to work! Thanks for the insight.
It has been like that before MM.
Lol got all exited
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mine does not work..
any setting should be set ?
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You have to get your whole palm touching the touchscreen. Push it against the screen, don't just lightly cover your watch.
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i tried by touching whole of my palm into the screen, then it vibrate and the screen is off.
is it work like that ? it's just go into standbye mode, not decreasing the brightness
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Weird, maybe it is your watchface. I've tried this with pujie black, go to launcher(menu) and covered the screen.
Watch went to standby, lower brightness, exactly as if it just timed out by itself.
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i tried to set always ON = ON, and covered the screen with my palm..
then the screen goes to standbye mode with dim watchface as seems like when the screen time out..
but when setting always On=Off, the screen goes off when covered with my palm. like this ?
hendry yes it supposed to behave like this
I'm pretty sure this function was in the tutorial before marshmallow even.

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