Will it work on the xda IIs?
It may. A user on another forum just reported succesfully using a Tanscend 4gb card in his XV6600 even though he was told it would only support 2gb...http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61612
Have tested with 2GB SData SD card myself, works fine. Didn't have 4gb but it should work as well.
The SX66 supported SD list was created back when the highest SD card was like 512meg or 1gig, that's why the supported lists are different
hi, thanks for the replies. i see it everything should be fine using a 4gb sd card.
due to the nature of the BA, and as far as i kno all other fairly recent PDAs they will support all current and future SD cards as they don't suffer the limited memory addressing of smaller less complex devices such as normal mobile phones like nokias and digital cameras
i've read somewhere the SD card standard will theoretically go up to 16gb, lets hope they arn't too far away, and that the BA will support it.
Still hoping some random company will develop and release an SDIO USB host though. Damn the BA not having Compact Flash.
http://www.everythingusb.com/news/index/5929.htm
http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
Much cheaper, and from SanDisk...
1 GB SD which doubles as a USB thimbdrive w/o need for adapter. MSRP $134.99
Hi,
Newbie question, couldn't find the answer: What's the difference between a normal sd-card and a mini sd, except for size?
What's better? I've read that pple say mini sd's the future, but why?
Enlighten me.
Thanks
I have a 1 GB mini sd ( even if my qtek 2020 only accepts SD cards - i use the adaptor of course ) because all the next devices will use mini/micro SD because they are smaller.
So it is a sort of investement for the future ! don't waste your money !
I for one really don't like this mess of different standards when it comes to flash memory.
What is there, for example, that mini-SD is too big for that actually /needs/ micro-SD? Come to think of it, what devices are really too small for good old vanilla SD cards?
Sony even announced a smaller memory stick the other day, for those people that don't find Duos too damn small already. Don't even get me started on MMC, RS-MMC and so on, it's just not required, you know? The sooner SD becomes an industry standard the better.
I bought a Magician for the very fact that it takes full-size SD cards: memory is cheaper per Gb and I've got a greater range of SDIO options.
I know that the EVO supports up to 32gb on an sd card... but my question here: does anyone know if it supports sd 3.0? the hero only supports 2.0 hence my class 10 micro sd lying around
Sorry to bump an older thread but I am very interested in this as well... I am seriously considering going to the Evo, even though I love my slide out keyboards... The Evo just seems like too much for me to pass up...
the card will work in the evo, but it is extremely doubtful that you will utilize the spec to the fullest as it was only released a short time ago, the evo has been in development since at least march as shown by leaked images of the supersonic. To change a crucial part such as the sd bus would be a near impossibility at that stage in development. My educated guess is that it is sd 2.0 compatible with maximum microSDHC 32gb cards. SDXC might work but the availability and price make it too eairly to tell, in theory it will, but a software update might be needed to read their fat tables.
sd 3.0 is good, it is only when the 4.0 standard comes out that backward compatibility will be lost with the media to devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD_and_SDXC_compatibility_issues
hope this helps.
Anyone know what size AND speed MicroSD card the DInc2 supports up to?
I would love a link to somewhere that gives the specs...
And maybe even a link to a good deal on cards?
Thanks!
By claiming to support microSDHC (micro secure digital high capacity, SD 2.0), they are kinda required by specification to support any card that follows the microSDHC standard. I know this doesn't always happen, but that's the way it SHOULD be.
With that said, I have a 32gb class 4 card in my I2. 32gb is the limit to the microSDHC (rather, limit to SD 2.0) standard, so I suspect any microSDHC card will work.
There is no explicit support for microSDXC (micro secure digital extended capacity, SD 3.0 and 4.0, the standard that allows for up to 2tb capacity by its definition, though I think 128gb is the biggest available at the moment, and those are expensive and hard to find). Apparently the specifications allow for SDHC (and microSDHC) hosts to support SDXC cards at SDHC speeds as long as the host supports a filesystem that can format a volume larger than 32gb (FAT32 has some addressing and table allocation limits, which is why Microsoft stopped using it for primary volumes). Considering Android uses FAT32 and not exFAT (Microsoft updated version of FAT that is more efficient with larger volumes, doesn't have the low addressing limits, and optimized for flash media), I would not count on it properly supporting SDXC quite yet.
I found a Spec List that at least confirms your 32GB figure, but I am still in the dark about what class the DInc2 supports up to.
Anyone?
Anyone?
It SHOULD (key word: should) support up to class 10. However, this may be dependent on model of card. I know the Eris would work with some class 6 cards in the higher capacities, and not others, and would only work with lower capacity class 10 cards.
Best I can suggest is to buy and try. Make sure you buy from somewhere with a good return policy so that you can return a card that doesn't work with your I2. I will say the Kingston Class 4 32gb card has no problem handling the 720p recording.
Is there a way to check what kind of data transfer rates are occurring? Or would the card be unusable/unrecognized if the class was unsupported effectively letting me know?
If the controller/device supports a higher class card, it will work with it at the highest speed possible, either limited by the card or the controller.
If the device doesn't like the card, you'll generally know pretty quickly. I've only seen one instance of a device not handling a card well and displaying that fact through data corruption and it wasn't with an Android device (it was a cheap digital camera). On the Eris, the card just wouldn't be read/would indicate it's bad.
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.
...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense
16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
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If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
fr8cture said:
If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
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robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).
rashid.fairus said:
16gb wont enough?
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Prankey said:
Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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