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I don't see why not, since this chinese company is already doing it with their phone! C'mon HTC, quit falling behind!
http://www.chinitech.com/en/2010/te...uvelle-photo-et-support-du-hdmi-1-3-confirme/
Here is all the specifications:
* M9 Dimensions: 59,5 mm x 113 mm x 11,4 mm
* M9II Dimensions: 64mm x 122 mm x 9,?mm
* Networks: WCDMA, CDMA, TD-SCDMA
* Screen: M9 3,5″ 960×640 et M9II 4″ 1024×640
* Multitouch 10 fingers
* Processor: 1 GHz (Samsung S5PC110)
* Memory: 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM
* Operating System: Android OS 2.1
* Camera: 5 megapixels
* Connectivity: Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS / TV-out (HDMI 1.3)
* Memory Expansion: Micro SD / TF
* Battery: 1350 mAh
* Price: about $325 (without headphone) and $365 (including headphone and a 8Gb Memory card)
Meh...unimpressed.
Those specs are pretty much the expected standard for 2010 android smartphones. I agree with Nate, not impressed.
phatmanxxl said:
Those specs are pretty much the expected standard for 2010 android smartphones. I agree with Nate, not impressed.
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Really "expected standard"? What smartphones on the market today sport 10-finger multi touch and 1024x640 display?
Neo3D said:
Really "expected standard"? What smartphones on the market today sport 10-finger multi touch and 1024x640 display?
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Have to agree with not very impressed. Good luck using all 10 of your fingers at once. Some things are overkill to me...
Do you really think there will be an "evo 2"?
deathsled said:
Do you really think there will be an "evo 2"?
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The G2 will be out for the holidays, why not an EVO2
A 5mp camera??? I don't believe this one bit!
10 fingers.... lol. That almost seems like BS to me. It's pointless. Seems like manufacturers are trying to squeeze any inane feature into their phone to make it seems like it's the "next" big thing.
Do we really need a higher resolution with the same screen sizes? Everything we have now looks great at the current resolution. Maybe someone can explain the benefits of increasing the resolution?
what requires you to use 10 fingers? i cant find a single app that runs 3 point multitouch.. ... good luck with that..
hydralisk said:
10 fingers.... lol. That almost seems like BS to me. It's pointless. Seems like manufacturers are trying to squeeze any inane feature into their phone to make it seems like it's the "next" big thing.
Do we really need a higher resolution with the same screen sizes? Everything we have now looks great at the current resolution. Maybe someone can explain the benefits of increasing the resolution?
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I would love to see a higher resolution screen. However, I wouldn't go so far as to put 1080p on a smartphone. 1280x800 seems like a practical limit. For starters, the web browsing experience would be just like a desktop web browsing experience. And you could play 720p video. And hopefully, with Gingerbread, we could fit more widgets onto our home screens.
I have a net book that's 1024x600 and even that is limiting in its use.
notown775 said:
what requires you to use 10 fingers? i cant find a single app that runs 3 point multitouch.. ... good luck with that..
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I use more than 3-points using Nesoid to play NES games for several games. 10-point is overkill, though, IMO.
If you scroll down the article to the latest update, it reads:
"Last update : Jack Wong has just unveiled that he will abort the old screen resolution of 780×480 and replaced it with the a new 3,5-inch screen offering a iPhone 4 like resolution of 960×640 which will be called Meizu M9. Moreover the Meizu M9II will be equipped with a 4-inch screen with a resolution of 1024×640."
The real questions are how good is the GPU and is it a real HDMI out. Processor speed and RAM is the same as the Evo. At this point, the Evo's 4.3" screen is bigger than the M9II at 4", and the Evo has a better camera, a front-facing camera, the kick-stand (which I use plenty with my SlingBox), and a lot more accessories and development. I wouldn't buy this over an Evo just for the resolution.
Well whatever the summer 2011 Sprint/Android phone is, I do believe that it'll have a higher res screen. The Adreno 220 (which comes with the dual core 1.2 GHz 45nm Snapdragons due in the first half of 2011) supports up to 1280x800 but I doubt that we'll see that in anything but tablets. On phones we'll probably see the dual core CPU down clocked to 800 MHz - 1 GHz (which would still make it a lot faster than anything on the market now) and the same 1024x640 display as on that phone. Why 1024x640? All apps would scale pretty perfectly (same ratio as 800x480).
Neo3D said:
I would love to see a higher resolution screen. However, I wouldn't go so far as to put 1080p on a smartphone. 1280x800 seems like a practical limit. For starters, the web browsing experience would be just like a desktop web browsing experience. And you could play 720p video. And hopefully, with Gingerbread, we could fit more widgets onto our home screens.
I have a net book that's 1024x600 and even that is limiting in its use.
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I disagree with a few things. Let's start with the web experience. Sure, having a desktop resolution means that you could see more of a web page... but with a 4-4.3" screen, you can't read text that small. Besides, you can just zoom out to see more. So I'm not too convinced there.
As for widgets, you can load as many as your launcher allows. HTC would fit more widgets if they were smaller. Same size as they would be if you increased the resolution but kept the same screen size. I think the limit we have now is fine simply because anything more would be really cluttered.
The Galaxy S phones can play 720p movies, but of course they are downscaled. But you still get the same level of detail. It's insane watching a 720p movie on my Epic. Can't imagine anything being sharper than that.
I mean... the iPhone 4 has a larger resolution than the iPhone 3GS... but the desktop experience is unchanged. Icons are the same size. Still need to zoom in to read small text. Etc etc...
hydralisk said:
I disagree with a few things. Let's start with the web experience. Sure, having a desktop resolution means that you could see more of a web page... but with a 4-4.3" screen, you can't read text that small. Besides, you can just zoom out to see more. So I'm not too convinced there.
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I disagree here. It's not really about seeing more, it's about the clarity of small text (which gets easier to read at higher DPI's.
The iPhone 4's display is relatively small compared to the EVO's 4.3" but even at that size the extra DPI makes smaller text more readable on the iPhone 4 than on the EVO. I should know since I own both and have perfect vision.
4.3" w/ a 1024x640 resolution would be KILLER for web browsing and e-reading.
Neo3D said:
I don't see why not, since this chinese company is already doing it with their phone! C'mon HTC, quit falling behind!
http://www.chinitech.com/en/2010/te...uvelle-photo-et-support-du-hdmi-1-3-confirme/
Here is all the specifications:
* M9 Dimensions: 59,5 mm x 113 mm x 11,4 mm
* M9II Dimensions: 64mm x 122 mm x 9,?mm
* Networks: WCDMA, CDMA, TD-SCDMA
* Screen: M9 3,5″ 960×640 et M9II 4″ 1024×640
* Multitouch 10 fingers
* Processor: 1 GHz (Samsung S5PC110)
* Memory: 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM
* Operating System: Android OS 2.1
* Camera: 5 megapixels
* Connectivity: Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS / TV-out (HDMI 1.3)
* Memory Expansion: Micro SD / TF
* Battery: 1350 mAh
* Price: about $325 (without headphone) and $365 (including headphone and a 8Gb Memory card)
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lol....lol.........lol...........lol.............lol wtf omg i gets 1200p on my screenz its so useful to read texts and stuff
BrianDigital said:
lol....lol.........lol...........lol.............lol wtf omg i gets 1200p on my screenz its so useful to read texts and stuff
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What's so funny about that? 1024x640 is the widescreen version of the iPhone 4's 960x640, and it's worth it from my use.
I would hope it would be a 720p screen not some off the wall resolution like that.
im currently drooling over this little beast
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/sharps-is03-android-phone-packs-retina-display-minus-the-brand/
stabs said:
I would hope it would be a 720p screen not some off the wall resolution like that.
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It will take a while for smart phones to reach 720p. The DPI would be ridiculous on mid size screens.
Here the news from MWC:HTC will sell it's new Desire series which named "DesirE S" running ADROID 2.4,so is it possible to port 2.4 to old DESIRE???
Depends on the Hardware and if the Drivers can be patched to work with the Desire.
same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD
dont rush it guys lol
the new launcher and apps looks greeat
superliam said:
same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD
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Its not the same. Desire S has the same with Desire HD
HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.
Yep,these detail parameters result that we,desire users can ported from new DesirE S ANDROID V2.4,It's only time business I think......
JeffreyLI
Elim said:
HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
From this point of view,has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?or 2.4 android is only referenced HTC sense upgration by HTC?
NeoPlex said:
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™
official from HTC... so with Sense. information comes from a journalist at MWC...
NeoPlex said:
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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Not very interesting when already known in other threads on here
jeffreyljb said:
From this point of view, has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?
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Not now, but it will be come in March or April.
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Not now, but it will be come in March or April.
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S'already released to HTC though, otherwise they wouldn't be able to back Sense on it, and as they showed at Barcelona their device was already running 2.4
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
it would be quite awesome to say the least. i'm sure we have the talent to do it lurking in our forums, but whether or not it will happen would depend on the free time and desires of said talent. i'd love to see this, or a port of the new 4.0 ICS with sense that just got released.
MdpMdp said:
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
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I would also love a port of sense 3.5 on our devices.
I've ported it but it needs proper drivers. Maybe someone can fix it. Ill upload it if anybody's interested.
edit. what does it look like? screen flickers. nothing works. like a broken launcher.
sense porting
MdpMdp said:
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
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Sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms are typically rather large. I have pulled a Pico RUU [called a zero sense I think but its 3.5 just lightweight]. Unfortunately I'd be deving for marvelc side to begin with (we're still stuck with 2.3.4 roms), but I have got that aforementioned RUU in my "to do" [port sense] pile, right after I build the 2.3.5 kernel and see if that will boot marvelc side. I suppose if things look bleak and I feel like really taking on projects [just hobbying now], I could buy a T-mo WFS and that way I would have a model on both sides [gsm and cdma],.. but no immediate plans on that. Where did Jikarantu sneak off to? He'd be the one you'd want to hit up; if he is lurking about somewhere.
Regards,
Rob
I remember looking at s thread that teaches you how to port sense versions on sense enabled roms ill have a look tomorrow
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The HTC One X features a beautifully crafted polycarbonate unibody that has the ruggedness of metal but is super lightweight. With seamless construction, the unibody combines a unique high gloss 'piano' finish and a matte back. HTC One X is blazing fast with the new NVIDIA® Tegra 3 Mobile Processor for clear graphics, faster applications and longer battery life. It includes a 1.5GHz Super 4-PLUS-1™ quad-core with an integrated fifth Battery Saver Core and a high-performance 12-Core NVIDIA® GPU. The HTC One X also has an amazing 4.7-inch, 720p HD screen crafted from contoured Corning™ Gorilla Glass. HTC One X will also be available in select 4G LTE markets with a LTE-enabled Qualcomm Snapdragon S4™ processor with up to 1.5GHz dual-core CPU’s.
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Final specs: green is advantage, red is disappointing disadvantage
Quad-core Tegra 3 processor + low power companion core 4-plus-1, Kal-Eli chip with ULP Gefroce GPU, AP33 1.5GHz / XMM6260
LTE version will carry the dual core snapdragon 4 krait chip @ 1.5ghz with Adreno225 - named One XL
Android 4.0 with Sense UI 4.0
4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, SLCD 2 @ 312PPI, Optical lamination makes the screen seem to float just below the glass with no space for air or dust
Gorilla glass 2.5D
Poly-carbonate Uni-body construction
1 GB RAM
Backlit 8 MP camera BSI backlight Sensor with f/2.0 lens, 1.3mp front cam plus ImageSense chipset
Beats Audio throughout the whole audio output
Slim, 8.9mm thick
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC with google wallet support
No SD slot
MicroSIM
32 GB internal storage
1800mAh built-in
HSPA+ 21 Mbps support
5-pogo-pin setup for a speaker dock, likely for the rumored Beats audio dock
Stereo microphones for noise reduction
134.36 x 69.9 x 8.9 mm
130 grams with battery
A minimalist "Iconic" design, made from Polycarbonate uni-body
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- Grey version: matt front frame, piano gloss sidewalls, matt soft touch back, matt brushed camera frame and black gloss HTC logo
+ Curved 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves around the edges
Described by HTC's Scott Croyle:
The HTC One X begins with a beautiful crafted poly-carbonate uni-body, it got the ruggedness of metal but its super-light, the uni-body has authentic color through and through and it's super rugged, super durable. We thought a lot how to get the most out of this poly-carbonate uni-body and we began with seamless construction, the One X has this beautiful piano gloss edge around the perimeter of the phone and a matt back surface, it's the intersection of these two textures that creates a crisp surface break, it's this detail that really maximizes the precision and beauty of the material, we've taken this premium housing and combined it with 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves and flows over the edge, this phone feels great when you pick it up, in fact when i'm using this phone i'm always rubbing my finger around the outside surface, it really feels awesome, we've obsessed about the tiniest of details on the One X, a good example is the way we've micro drilled the speakers holes to reach that perfect edge, it's attention to detail like this that really sets it apart, i like to describe the One X by distilling it down to three basic ideas, piano gloss side walls, curved glass and a simple iconic camera detail, it's the whole design sysyncly described in three short phrases
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Final specs: green is advantage, red is disappointing disadvantage
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
4.3-inch qHD Super AMOLED display @ 256PPI, pentile matrix
1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon 4 processor, New krait chip with Adreno 225 GPU
Backlit 8 MP camera BSI backlight Sensor with f/2.0 lens, 1.3mp front cam plus ImageSense chipset
[COLOR="Green)"]Gorilla glass 2.5D[/COLOR]
Beats Audio throughout the whole audio output
Metallic uni-body with crystaline ceramic metal finish
7.8m ultra thin
No NFC support
No Sd slot
MicroSIM
16GB internal
1650mAh battery built-in
HSPA+
130.9 x 65 x 7.8 mm
119.5 grams with battery
Classic HTC aluminium uni-body with new two different finishes:
- Black ceramic ultra matt "Micro-Arc Oxidized" finish with red accents, 4 times more durable than the old aluminium
- Dark to gray Gradient "patented" Anodized finish with blue accents
+ Curved 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves around the edges
Leaked early Concept
Snapdragon 4 VS Tegra 3
Snapdragon4: 28nm, 2 x Krait @1.5GHz, 2 x 32-bit LPDDR2 memory bus,
Adreno 225 GPU: 8 units, 50% faster > Adreno220, 3x faster > Adreno205, 6x faster > Adreno200
Tegra3: 40nm, 4 x ARM Cortex A9 w/ MPE @1.5GHz + 5th low power ARM cortex A9 companion core @500mhz, 1 x 32-bit LPDDR2 memory bus
Geforce++ GPU: 8 pixel units + 4 vector units, 2x/3x faster than Tegra2
In Anandtech's preview of the One X vs One S during the MWC 2012 announcement, it shows the T3 is going head to head with the s4 in CPU speed, while GPU it beats the s4, the One X has 77% more pixels to render vs the One S, conclusion the T3 is better in web browsing and gaming (multitasking and GPU), the dual S4 has better single core performance.
Further benchmarks affirm that the T3 is better suited for the 720p display, vs iPad2/iPad3 both the T3 and s4 beats its CPU (same Dual A9 1.0ghz CPU on A5/A5x) and between 2 to 3x GPU advantage for the A5x quad core GPU over T3 (unlike the 4x claimed by Apple)
One S Super Amoled screen uses a PenTile RGBG matrix>>
Info about pentile super amoled screen here >>
Anandtech's One X vs One S Benchmarks!>>
Engadget One S Photos from MWC2012>>
Anandtech article on snapdragon 4's Krait Architecture>>
Anandtech's performance preview of Snapdragon 4 (Krait) with Adreno225>>
Anandtech's One X vs One S Benchmarks!>>
Tegra3 vs Snapdragon4 vs A5x vs A5>>
More One X vs One S benchmarks>>
General conlcusion for the T3 vs S4 situation>>
Snapdragon4 vs Tegra3 Benchmarks head to head>>
The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 (Krait) Preview Part II, Tegra3 vs dual Snapdragon4>>
PC Mag benchmarks of Snapdragon4 vs Tegra3>>
Sense 4.0/4.1/4+
After the massively bogged down heavily 3D animated sense 3.0, HTC went with simplification of it's UI, reducing much of the heavy bloat, eventually by the Sense 4+ JB updated they finally achieved triple buffered locked 60fps throughout the Sense UI.
Thread discussing Sense 4.0>>
HTC official updates
HTC has shown a good record of providing Android updates, they commit updates up to 18 months of the device lifetime, flagship phones have gone through three major Android updates, also most of the beta firmwares are regularly leaked on xda few months ahead of release date, for example:
HTC One X: Ice Cream Sandwith 4.0.3 / Sense 4.0 > ICS 4.0.4 / Sense 4.1 > Jelly Bean 4.1.1 / Sense 4+ > JB 4.2.2 / Sense 5
HTC Sensation: Gingerbread 2.3.4 / Sense 3.0 > GB 2.3.5 / Sense 3.5 (beta) > ICS / Sense 3.6 (Final)
HTC Desire HD: Froyo 2.2 / Sense 2.1 > Gingerbread 2.3.3 / Sense 2.1 > GB 2.3.5 / Sense 3.0 > ICS (Cancelled)
HTC Desire: Eclair 2.1 / Sense 1.9 > Froyo 2.2 / Sense 2.0 > Gingerbread 2.3 / / Reduced Sense 2.1 (final, standalone download)
HTC Development Support
HTC officially supports unlocking boot-loader and have already provided unlocks for most its older Android phones, however S-OFF is not officially supported
Unlocking support and kernel sources can be found on this site http://htcdev.com/
In my opinion both are great phones. In 2012 HTC will prove that is better than Iphone with these 2 babies. I don't know if i can afford one of these. I have to play in Euromillions.
Thx hamdir
hardcore4ever said:
In my opinion both are great phones. In 2012 HTC will prove that is better than Iphone with these 2 babies. I don't know if i can afford one of these. I have to play in Euromillions.
Thx hamdir
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by the way i would have gone with Ville if the screen was HD, i know they chose Amoled this time but really HD displays with over 300DPI density are something else
I'm hoping the Ville will sport a dual core snapdragon 4 instead of snapdragon 3 (the one in Sensation and the new Xperia series) which means improved performance and a better GPU (Adreno 225 or Adreno 305) HTC are the first to use new Snapdragons, so its a very high possibility
I predict HTC will announce the quad core snapdragon 4 device with Adreno320, six months after the release of the Edge, I'm not sure if the leaked Zeta concept are geniune
and to be perfectly honest i worry about the Tegra a bit, nvidia make speedy chips but quality :S i don't know... Tegra 2 wasn't really as massively fast as they advertised, Adreno 205 and 220 remained competitive
I absolutely love the Ville but sadly i won't be able to buy it ;с
To me, the successor to the DHD will be the Ville
I agree hamdir. Ville is ok, but if you look at the specs from that leak, it isn't much of an improvement to begin with. To me it's the same as Sensation XL. I have it and to be honest, I see absolutely no difference between it and DHD. Yes the screen is better and yes it has a bit more juice in it, but really no major difference at all. Edge on the other hand I see as a device that I might possibly keep for a very long time considering it will most likely be quad core and I've read somewhere that camera will be 10mpx.
The thing that really bothers me is that phones are generally getting bigger and I really wouldn't like to carry a 5' phone on me.
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I agree hamdir. Ville is ok, but if you look at the specs from that leak, it isn't much of an improvement to begin with. To me it's the same as Sensation XL. I have it and to be honest, I see absolutely no difference between it and DHD. Yes the screen is better and yes it has a bit more juice in it, but really no major difference at all. Edge on the other hand I see as a device that I might possibly keep for a very long time considering it will most likely be quad core and I've read somewhere that camera will be 10mpx.
The thing that really bothers me is that phones are generally getting bigger and I really wouldn't like to carry a 5' phone on me.
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yes it seems once google released the galaxy nexus, 4.7 inch suddenly became the new standard, i tried the sensation XL and its really big for me, 4.3 was the max im comfortable with
i think sony has done well with offering the same basic specs on both the Xperia S and Ion with only the looks and screen size as difference, this we way the users have the choice
right now between the ville and edge, im forced to pick the edge despite my problem with 4.7inch
hamdir said:
yes it seems once google released the galaxy nexus, 4.7 inch suddenly became the new standard, i tried the sensation XL and its really big for me, 4.3 was the max im comfortable with
i think sony has done well with offering the same basic specs on both the Xperia S and Ion with only the looks and screen size as difference, this we way the users have the choice
right now between the ville and edge, im forced to pick the edge despite my problem with 4.7inch
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Again I agree. Nothing against Ville really, but Edge sounds like a more mature phone in all aspects. I have given it a good thought and frankly, compared to Edge, I think Ville will be a waste of money. I will however buy both for comparison purposes, but I think I already know who the winner will be.
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Again I agree. Nothing against Ville really, but Edge sounds like a more mature phone in all aspects. I have given it a good thought and frankly, compared to Edge, I think Ville will be a waste of money. I will however buy both for comparison purposes, but I think I already know who the winner will be.
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your rich? you have the XL and buying both new upcoming ones?
i just bought my wife the classic sensation used and will be buying the Edge can't afford more
It'll be too expensive
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your rich? you have the XL and buying both new upcoming ones?
i just bought my wife the classic sensation used and will be buying the Edge can't afford more
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Not like filthy rich lol, but I have cash for these things. I'm a tech addict so whatever is out new I gotta have it. It's not really an issue with money it's more of a principle. I got my fiancee Rhyme and she loves it.
I agree on phones getting to large. Me personally I liked the sensations size. It felt better in my hand than my inspire(us dhd). If we could get a quad core in the size of the ville I'm sold.
One thing to take note is that though the galaxy nexus has a huge screen it got rid of the capacitive buttons so its not really that much larger, than current phones.
As too which phone ill get, I would want quad core but never used tegra devices so still on the fence. Either way I'm going HTC, and hopefully us here in the US don't have to wait long after you guys.
For now my inspire running ics can honestly keep up for another year if I needed to wait it out
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I agree on phones getting to large. Me personally I liked the sensation screen size. It felt better in my hand than my inspire(us dhd). If we could get a quad core in the size of the ville I'm sold.
One thing to take note is that though the galaxy nexus has a huge screen it got rid of the capacitive buttons so its not really that much larger, than current phones.
As too which phone ill get, I would want quad core but never used tegra devices so still on the fence. Either way I'm going HTC, and hopefully us here in the US don't have to wait long after you guys.
For now my inspire running ics can honestly keep up for another year if I needed to wait it out
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. 4.3in was perfectly fine for a phone. The way it's moving atm, half way through the year, we're going to have phones that really are mini tablets and then what..
As for Tegra, I'm using Motorola Xoom and it's actually really really good.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. 4.3in was perfectly fine for a phone. The way it's moving atm, half way through the year, we're going to have phones that really are mini tablets and then what..
As for Tegra, I'm using Motorola Xoom and it's actually really really good.
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Hopefully manufacturer don't go crazy and stop making phone size phones lol.
I haven't really played with a tegra device to make any judgement. My only, though very limited, experience with it is on my sisters g2x. And compared to our dhd, I was not impressed. But maybe this quad core will be.
My one caveat with the ville after relooking at the specs is the battery still seems to small. And that's comparing to our measly battery. I'm willing to sacrifice an extra few mm, to get a bigger battery. Looking at the razr maxx, it not that much bigger than the original and it has 3300mah battery! That more than double ours and about same thickness as ours I believe
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Hopefully manufacturer don't go crazy and stop making phone size phones lol.
I haven't really played with a tegra device to make any judgement. My only, though very limited, experience with it is on my sisters g2x. And compared to our dhd, I was not impressed. But maybe this quad core will be.
My one caveat with the ville after relooking at the specs is the battery still seems to small. And that's comparing to our measly battery. I'm willing to sacrifice an extra few mm, to get a bigger battery. Looking at the razr maxx, it not that much bigger than the original and it has 3300mah battery! That more than double ours and about same thickness as ours I believe
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Yeah but Motorola is working with the Aliens according to RCVR short series..
Hahah.. Had to put it here.
if i where to have to pick a sucessor to the desire hd i dont really think it would be any of the ones you listed, i think htc has something special in store for us. but i can say that i doubt it will be the edge, yes a quad core is nice but not a tegra one. coming back to the dhd from an atrix i can say the lack of drivers/source for the cpu or whatever it was really made development suck. you are very limited at what can be made, unless nvidia decides to release the stuff. and the ville seems very nice except i think a true sucessor will have better specs.
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if i where to have to pick a sucessor to the desire hd i dont really think it would be any of the ones you listed, i think htc has something special in store for us. but i can say that i doubt it will be the edge, yes a quad core is nice but not a tegra one. coming back to the dhd from an atrix i can say the lack of drivers/source for the cpu or whatever it was really made development suck. you are very limited at what can be made, unless nvidia decides to release the stuff. and the ville seems very nice except i think a true sucessor will have better specs.
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yes i already had my worries about tegra, but i didn't know they don't share their sources? devices builders are bound by law to release the kernel source along with its drivers
moreover you have to remember HTC devices have a much wider support in XDA then any other brand, for example check the xperia ARC forums despite having snapdragon 2 the support is limited
finally a history reminder XDA developers was founded to support the O2 XDA devices made by HTC which had an Nvidia Goforce GPU
if anything it might be warm come back to nvidia
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yes i already had my worries about tegra, but i didn't know they don't share their sources? devices builders are bound by law to release the kernel source along with its drivers
moreover you have to remember HTC devices have a much wider support in XDA then any other brand, for example check the xperia ARC forums despite having snapdragon 2 the support is limited
finally a history reminder XDA developers was founded to support the O2 XDA devices made by HTC which had an Nvidia Goforce GPU
if anything it might be warm come back to nvidia
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The kernel yes has to have the source released but driver source has never been released. One of the main reasons that the AOSP drivers are lacking compared to the stock drivers. Take BT for example stock based rom's use a different driver then the AOSP rom's. Same for the radio, screen, camera ect.
i found more details about the Edge screen and thickness here:
http://androidcommunity.com/more-htc-edge-details-nfc-8-8mm-and-sense-4-0-20111108/
According to an anonymous tipster (who lamentably didn’t have any new photos) the Edge will indeed be the first smartphone to feature Nvidia’s monster quad-core Tegra 3 processer running at a blistering 1.5Ghz. The processor is backed up by a full gigabyte of RAM and 32 gigs of on-board storage. The phone itself is updated as 8.8mm thin – very slim for a device with this much horsepower – but must go without a MicroSD card slot. The screen is a massive 4.7-inch 720p panel using the latest in S-LCD technology. Optical lamination makes the screen seem to float just below the glass with no space for air or dust. NFC and a large 1800mAh battery are included.
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so the screen should hopefully be a quality one similar to the XL
some negative thoughts on tegra 3 here:
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/45206/quadcore-htc-edge-to-be-showcased-at-mwc.html
Frankly speaking I am not very excited about this device because quadcore is just a marketing strategy, though it uses 4 cortex A9 processors, the L1 and L2 cache provided is equal to the one present in Tegra 2, which means nVIDIA does not expect anyone to use more than 2 cores at a time. Also we should note that Tegra 3 is a synchronous processor which will result in the consumption loads of battery, but we hope that the fifth core will be able to help us here. Superior processing power and a really powerful GPU makes it the leading processor available in the market right now, but how long will they be able to hold this position is the real question.
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Looking to the edge as my replacement for DHD unless somethi.g better comes along.Would love to have a phone with gorilla glass,got it on my transformer and after 9 months not a scratch on it
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Hi guys i am pretty confused about the new desire x phone release till this time One V was the one for me after extensive research but now am pretty perplexed as to whic h would be better for gaming as well as decent battery(i.e atleast a day on moderate usage).
am pretty unsure as Desire x seems awesome compared to one v but the gpu seems sad
my main requirements are :
720p video playback
casual gaming(temple run,cut the rope,etc) along with ocassional fps(nova,shadowgun)
good battery life as already said(atleast a day)
fast for basic operations eg messaging etc
not really big on multitasking max three apps.
thank you.
All except the gpu is in favor of Desire X. Especially 4 inch screen, dual core and RAM. Battery though touted higher capacity than oneV, real-life usage depends lot on other things since it will have to cater to a powerful processor and bigger screen area. I expect the battery life may be comparable between both and just like the oneV, desireX will give more than a days battery backup for an average user ( i easily get about 2 days on OneV). I cannot tell difference between the GPU though.
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All except the gpu is in favor of Desire X. Especially 4 inch screen, dual core and RAM. Battery though touted higher capacity than oneV, real-life usage depends lot on other things since it will have to cater to a powerful processor and bigger screen area. I expect the battery life may be comparable between both and just like the oneV, desireX will give more than a days battery backup for an average user ( i easily get about 2 days on OneV). I cannot tell difference between the GPU though.
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that the problem for me so am confused as to how the gaming performance may be affected and also the ability of the phone to play hd videos.
Desire X is better than htc one V it has dual core and i think a bit more ram as one v
One V records 720 p videos really good sound and video quality
Desire X can take 800x480p videos but i dont know how the quality of the sound and video is
Every day usage one V is very good up to 2 days
Desire X half to one day
Htc one V is for gaming a little bit laggy but its ok adreno 205
Desire X is better for gaming andreno 200
Gpu from one v is better than desire X
My tipp buy a desire X htc will definitly bring a update to take 720p videos if not the developers are here in the xda forum xdd
Correct me if i said something wrong
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I would wait for a review with benchmarks.
Comparing the two spec wise: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4951&idPhone2=4575
The Desire X has more memory and has a compass and it's dual core.
The One V has better camera (at least on the software side - no 720p video recording) and a better GPU.
Also, the CPU in the X is based on an older ARM spec than the One V, so performance per core is probably lower (but I haven't seen comparative benchmarks yet).
It would be better to wait till the release of desire X, if you can.
Two benefits, one you get to know the exact features - mostly phones differ much from what is leaked out before launch. Video recording and such are software enhancements over capable hardware and may suddenly appear in the retail edition even if not on preview sets. (Recall the big discussions on oneV not having an FM radio!)
Second- you get some serious benchmarks and user inputs as guardianpt pointed out. Better than to feel sorry later, right? So my advice - hold your decision
Thank you
I think i need to delay my decision by a few months i suppose though .
and i thank you all for helping out in this confusion.
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Desire X is better than htc one V it has dual core and i think a bit more ram as one v
One V records 720 p videos really good sound and video quality
Desire X can take 800x480p videos but i dont know how the quality of the sound and video is
Every day usage one V is very good up to 2 days
Desire X half to one day
Htc one V is for gaming a little bit laggy but its ok adreno 205
Desire X is better for gaming andreno 200
Gpu from one v is better than desire X
My tipp buy a desire X htc will definitly bring a update to take 720p videos if not the developers are here in the xda forum xdd
Correct me if i said something wrong
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Well, anandtech says adreno 203 for the Desire X, and did not have good things to say about it.
One thing I purchased the One V for to replace my Desire was the screen, same size but way brighter and more vivid. This is thanks to the scld versus slcd 2. The Desire X saved on cost by going with the older slcd as opposed to the One V's slcd 2. I will wait for anandtech's review before saying it with authority.......but right now I am willing to bet our One V's screen kills the Desire X.
The screen is the thing you spend 100% of your time looking at on a smartphone (brilliant deduction.....I know!) so I wouldn't want to go with a lessor screen.
Personaly, better build (the One V really is a successor to the legend), better screen, better gpu, I am definately NOT regretting my one V purchase.
Edit: here is a quote from Anandtech:
"it has a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Play inside. Unlike the Snapdragon S4 SoC we're familiar with, the 28 nanometer model with a pair of 1.5 GHz Krait cores and an Adreno 225 graphics processor, the S4 Play (MSM8x25) is a 45 nanometer SoC that uses a pair of 1 GHz ARM Cortex A5 cores and Adreno 203 graphics. Performance wise, ARM says that a Cortex A5 can deliver 1.57 DMIPS/MHz. To put that into some perspective, the Cortex A8 delivers 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, and the Cortex A9 that's inside many of today's devices can pump out 2.50 DMIPS/MHz. Update: The HTC Desire X has shown up in RightWare's Powerboard, confirming MSM8225. Qualcomm's Krait core can do 3.30 DMIPS/MHz, more than double the performance of ARM's Cortex A5."
So, there you have it, 45nm process cortex A5.............this is not the S4 you have been looking for!
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Well, anandtech says adreno 203 for the Desire X, and did not have good things to say about it.
One thing I purchased the One V for to replace my Desire was the screen, same size but way brighter and more vivid. This is thanks to the scld versus slcd 2. The Desire X saved on cost by going with the older slcd as opposed to the One V's slcd 2. I will wait for anandtech's review before saying it with authority.......but right now I am willing to bet our One V's screen kills the Desire X.
The screen is the thing you spend 100% of your time looking at on a smartphone (brilliant deduction.....I know!) so I wouldn't want to go with a lessor screen.
Personaly, better build (the One V really is a successor to the legend), better screen, better gpu, I am definately NOT regretting my one V purchase.
Edit: here is a quote from Anandtech:
"it has a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Play inside. Unlike the Snapdragon S4 SoC we're familiar with, the 28 nanometer model with a pair of 1.5 GHz Krait cores and an Adreno 225 graphics processor, the S4 Play (MSM8x25) is a 45 nanometer SoC that uses a pair of 1 GHz ARM Cortex A5 cores and Adreno 203 graphics. Performance wise, ARM says that a Cortex A5 can deliver 1.57 DMIPS/MHz. To put that into some perspective, the Cortex A8 delivers 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, and the Cortex A9 that's inside many of today's devices can pump out 2.50 DMIPS/MHz. Update: The HTC Desire X has shown up in RightWare's Powerboard, confirming MSM8225. Qualcomm's Krait core can do 3.30 DMIPS/MHz, more than double the performance of ARM's Cortex A5."
So, there you have it, 45nm process cortex A5.............this is not the S4 you have been looking for!
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all that did was confuse me further yes i have heard about the a5 cortex could you pls put the corresponding one v values along with desire x that might help put things in prospective.
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all that did was confuse me further yes i have heard about the a5 cortex could you pls put the corresponding one v values along with desire x that might help put things in prospective.
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The S2 processor is the scorpion family, and is capable of 2.1 dmips / mhz. This is per clock speed, running at 1.0 ghz.
For example, the G2 uses a scorpion S2 at 800mhz, the dmips would then be 80%, the max speed of the scorpion is 1.4ghz (as found in the lumina 900) so the speed would increase. The S3 and up allowed dual core and upgraded to the adreno 220. The S3 is still scorpion though, so an dual core S3 at 1.4ghz each would be capable of (2.1*1.4*2) or 5.88 dmips
Anandtech is very respected, if they say the Desire X has a crappy underperforming processor.....then it does! It will probably be fine with dual cores and driving the same resolution on a larger screen. For me, I am very happy with my One V purchase. The Desire X makes too many comprimises.
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The S2 processor is the scorpion family, and is capable of 2.1 dmips / mhz. This is per clock speed, running at 1.0 ghz.
For example, the G2 uses a scorpion S2 at 800mhz, the dmips would then be 80%, the max speed of the scorpion is 1.4ghz (as found in the lumina 900) so the speed would increase. The S3 and up allowed dual core and upgraded to the adreno 220. The S3 is still scorpion though, so an dual core S3 at 1.4ghz each would be capable of (2.1*1.4*2) or 5.88 dmips
Anandtech is very respected, if they say the Desire X has a crappy underperforming processor.....then it does! It will probably be fine with dual cores and driving the same resolution on a larger screen. For me, I am very happy with my One V purchase. The Desire X makes too many comprimises.
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that cleared it up well enough .
since you use a one v can you let me know for graphic intensive fps say any of the popular titles is it lagging .
not big on multitasking so not much there but where do you feel the problems lie like does it feel underpowered or low on ram or anyrhing like that ?
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that cleared it up well enough .
since you use a one v can you let me know for graphic intensive fps say any of the popular titles is it lagging .
not big on multitasking so not much there but where do you feel the problems lie like does it feel underpowered or low on ram or anyrhing like that ?
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I have no problems, but the 2.08 and up update made a huge difference.
My games are basic like Solitaire, and Temple run. I also wath IMBD, etc.....no problems here.
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I would buy desire x, cause one v chin is fugly.
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what about the the htc sensation ???
i lost my v and an lookin for replacement.........
waht do u guys sugesst ?????
Okay, i just get my desire x.
I can play Modern Combat 3, Wild Blood and Dead Trigger from appstore very smooth.
Dont know why people saying gaming is not possible with desire x, they´re lying (sure this issnt TEGRA but very good for this price, trust me!)
just my 5 cents
EDIT: I got Sensation too, Sensation is also Good for gaming but i did not notice any difference between this devices...(performance wise, the desire is a smoother in my opinion)