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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.

I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.

euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.

wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/

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Hope the hint helps

Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!

...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...

hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6

I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.

in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.

crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.

Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40

crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?

Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!

mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

What if LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.0.4 goes wrong during update?

I am using the french version of HTC 3600. I will foloww LVSW procedure for updating but what if it goes wrong !!
Can I simply re-apply the official HTC rom from the HTC web site? WIll that work ?
Thanks for helping
Dag

If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.

With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?

ZakMcRofl said:
If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.
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can you explain me what hard-spl is ?

My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?

So many questions
With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?
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You can usually restore an old ROM even without Hard-SPL. It makes it a little easier because you can flash even ROMs that are not intended for your device (for example HTC Rom to Vodafone Compact GPS).
can you explain me what hard-spl is ?
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Sure. It is a replacement bootloader made by DES and later by Olipro. You'll find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1239088
LVSW offers it as a download as well, I don't know why he didn't include it in the update itself (nbh).
My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?
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Yes, original ROM updates are what I call full updates: Bootloader, Splashscreens, OS, Radio. However they will only overwrite Olipro's Hard-SPL if you use Soft-SPL (sspl) for flashing. Keep that in mind if you want to send your device in for warranty repairs...
Enough noob questions answered For details use search, its not hard.

OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?

If you flash it properly (load SSPL first, then run official update) they will have no way of telling the difference.
Obviously this only works if you have access to the official full update.

grega_slo said:
OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?
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If your phone is the S300+ (SFR version of Trinity) it's gonna be hard. No SFR ROM is available yet. So you can find the OS part over here and you can save your extended ROM, but it seems to be hard to restore exactly as the same.

I`m just asking out of couriosity...
Flashed to muns SE rom works like a charm...

WM6 is coming :)

Fasten seat belts and prepare to catch WM6 for HTC Artemis

Here is Official(not hand made) Artemis WM6 OS dump!!!
Please do not ask me about anything!
I will not comment anything.
http://uploaded.de/?id=5g88lr - ROM ver 1.38
http://uploaded.de/?id=f1zt2f - flasher for SuperCID devices only
http://uploaded.de/?id=2qok1e - Artemis Another WM6 Rom ver 3.5 - not coocked - for SuperCID devices only
All in you hands!
Enjoy!

Well aren't you just a little treasure trove.
Have you looked at this Tupisdin?
Comments on this vs. home made ROMs, any applications installed?
Media Hub etc?

I do not know! I do not have device right now on hand.
I will upload SUPERCID flasher later.

From where did you get hold of this?

Asking questions although he said he would not answer them. Interesting....
I am curious to see the review from the first brave soul willing to try this out. It does seem peculiar that the phone image on the RUU is not the Artemis.

itschase said:
Asking questions although he said he would not answer them. Interesting....
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Ha, Good point, but I did take that to mean 'don't ask how I got it' more than don't ask any questions.

Gajet said:
Ha, Good point, but I did take that to mean 'don't ask how I got it' more than don't ask any questions.
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No, that wasn't to you, the guy who blatantly asked...where did you get this.
BTW - I flashed USPL to my phone, tried the RUU version of this update and it said the file is corrupt. I take that to mean the file is not meant for my phone. The first of the two downloads has a file called OS.nb. That must be where I need to focus my attention. I will update if there is anything new....

Am I being super dumb, all I see is one download of a rar file containing os.nb0
What's the RUU version you speak of?
(EDIT) Irrelevant post now original has been updated and post below, although I still not sure what you were looking at, at the time itschase.

Flasher for supercid devices is here.
http://uploaded.de/?id=f1zt2f

The second of the two links contained the RUU...unless the upload site gave me the wrong file....
I am about to try an experimental re-flash...I will post results.

what language is this?

itschase said:
The second of the two links contained the RUU...unless the upload site gave me the wrong file....
I am about to try an experimental re-flash...I will post results.
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Guess I am the retard, because I tried using the os.nb0 file with several different RUU's and none of them could open the file. I changed the extension to .nb and .nbh just for good measure with no luck.

Works...
tupisdin said:
Here is Official(not hand made) Artemis WM6 OS dump!!!
Please do not ask me about anything!
I will not comment anything.
http://uploaded.de/?id=5g88lr - ROM ver 1.38
http://uploaded.de/?id=f1zt2f - flasher for SuperCID devices only
All in you hands!
Enjoy!
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Hi all just to let you all know tested this rom and all ok on my sim free (expansys) P3300.
I tried the "PDAVIET_Black&Blue_v3_WWE_Full" first-this was ok but phone would not switch on today, so i was thinking og going back to bepe's wm6 and saw this rom.
I used Artemis_USPL first, then the ROMUpdateUtility.exe supplied in the ARTE_WM6_FLASHER download quoted here (flasher for SuperCID devices only).
My details from device are now as below.
Rom version: 1.38.0.0 WWE
Rom date: 02/15/07
Radio version: 02.93.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.42
There are not ext rom applications loaded with the ARTE_WM6_FLASHER (2nd link), and not alot installed in wm6, but my memory shows 47.89 free storage and 25.61 free program space.
Keep up the good work XDA....

tupisdin said:
Fasten seat belts and prepare to catch WM6 for HTC Artemis
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Are we going to have wm6 for the prophrt ?

gadjet said:
Hi all just to let you all know tested this rom and all ok on my sim free (expansys) P3300.
I tried the "PDAVIET_Black&Blue_v3_WWE_Full" first-this was ok but phone would not switch on today, so i was thinking og going back to bepe's wm6 and saw this rom.
I used Artemis_USPL first, then the ROMUpdateUtility.exe supplied in the ARTE_WM6_FLASHER download quoted here (flasher for SuperCID devices only).
My details from device are now as below.
Rom version: 1.38.0.0 WWE
Rom date: 02/15/07
Radio version: 02.93.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.42
There are not ext rom applications loaded with the ARTE_WM6_FLASHER (2nd link), and not alot installed in wm6, but my memory shows 47.89 free storage and 25.61 free program space.
Keep up the good work XDA....
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When my p3300 starts the below info is displayed.
IPL 3.04.0001
SPL 1.11.0000
GSM 02.93.90
OS 1.38.0.0
I still have the htc start up wallpaper from the "PDAVIET_Black&Blue_v3_WWE_Full" rom , so will reflash original p3300 rom (ART_HTCWWE_11240501_026790_WWE_Ship), then run above again.
Will let you know outcome, fingers crossed...

Core WM6 with no radio update or EXT Rom applications.
gadjet said:
When my p3300 starts the below info is displayed.
IPL 3.04.0001
SPL 1.11.0000
GSM 02.93.90
OS 1.38.0.0
I still have the htc start up wallpaper from the "PDAVIET_Black&Blue_v3_WWE_Full" rom , so will reflash original p3300 rom (ART_HTCWWE_11240501_026790_WWE_Ship), then run above again.
Will let you know outcome, fingers crossed...
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Wallpaper back to normal now..
Startup screen now shows:
IPL 1.12.0001
SPL 1.11.0000
GSM 02.67.90
OS 1.38.0.0
Still no ext rom loading or any apps, but wm6 ok free memory same (47.89 storage-26.24 program).

anyone able to post screenshots of the various pages, memory info and device info.
Anyone able to comment on how it compares to bepes rom.

Works now re-modified to include basic rom applications
dannyoneill said:
anyone able to post screenshots of the various pages, memory info and device info.
Anyone able to comment on how it compares to bepes rom.
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After testing this rom I would advise everyone to use the version ARTE_WM6_3_5, the first release v3 looks like a cut down version of wm6.
The reason its fast is that loads of programs etc removed, no quickgps, no bluetooth explorer etc... also new radio stack is old version to?
Re flashing version 3.5 now which includes the missing apps.

gadjet said:
After testing this rom I would advise everyone steer clear of it, its a shame but looks like a cut down version of wm6.
The reason its fast is that loads of programs etc removed, no quickgps, no bluetooth explorer etc... also new radio stack is old version to?
Re flashing bepe rom now
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This Rom OS only.Applications in this Rom not new but verry nice OS.May be i will Rebuild OS in v3 B&B in next week...!

Official WM6 & SSPL?

i have UK Orange M700,
i have flashed successfully twice using SSPL with LVSW & mUn 2.00.S.E!
is it possible to flash to official WM6 using SSPL? like i have already done

Was creating a new thread REALLY necessary? When there's at least 2-3 others about this...

darkjedi said:
Was creating a new thread REALLY necessary? When there's at least 2-3 others about this...
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But the only answers seem to be "flash HardSPL" & official WM5 rom, which i dont have being on Orange M700!
i want to be able to flash using SSPL straight from 1 cooked Rom to another.
p.s. i'll make sure i P.M. you before i start another thread!

goodie said:
is it possible to flash to official WM6 using SSPL?
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No it isn't, here's the answer:
The "official" WM6 rom NBH file has the OS part tagged as 0x401 (256Mb NAND) instead of 0x400 (128Mb NAND). Only the new SPL-3.03 included in this "official" upgrade is able to understand 0x401, so SSPL, HardSPL or CrashProof SPL or whatever that's not based on this SPL-3.03 (or newer) will not be able to understand the NBH header type 0x401 and will stop at OS flashing.
The solution is simple:
Unpack the NBH and repack it tagging OS as 0x400, then flash it using SSPL, or whatever hacked SPL choice we have.

i've never tried unpacking an NBH or retagging!
is this something the knowledgeable cooks on here will manage easily?

one moment and I'll post a safe and re-tagged file for all.

Shadowmite said:
one moment and I'll post a safe and re-tagged file for all.
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thanks, i appreciate the offer, but i think i will wait for a cooked Rom with HTC homeplug, audiomanager & no slow down?
apparently the only way to get HTC apps with no slow down is to have them cooked into a rom?

Just CID unlock your phone, it works just fine.

Using SSPL-TRIN.exe or have you got to CID unlock?

With Pof's CID Unlocker. Has worked for me, and my friend.

pof said:
No it isn't, here's the answer:
The "official" WM6 rom NBH file has the OS part tagged as 0x401 (256Mb NAND) instead of 0x400 (128Mb NAND). Only the new SPL-3.03 included in this "official" upgrade is able to understand 0x401, so SSPL, HardSPL or CrashProof SPL or whatever that's not based on this SPL-3.03 (or newer) will not be able to understand the NBH header type 0x401 and will stop at OS flashing.
The solution is simple:
Unpack the NBH and repack it tagging OS as 0x400, then flash it using SSPL, or whatever hacked SPL choice we have.
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my device is dopod 810 eng ver (HK). I flashed it to chinese ver WM5 before using SSPL. For WM6, i have no problem flashing to SEA ver. But always get invalid vendor ID for the Trad. Chinese rom.
I then tried to unpack and pack it again with 128MB size.
and work like a charm
thanks all!!

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good
my device is dopod 810 eng ver (HK). I flashed it to chinese ver WM5 before using SSPL. For WM6, i have no problem flashing to SEA ver. But always get invalid vendor ID for the Trad. Chinese rom.
I then tried to unpack and pack it again with 128MB size.
and work like a charm
thanks all!!
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May I know how to repack the file with 128MB size?

IPL-1.00 upgrade available now from the latest official WM6 Dopod!

ausdim (Senior Member) has extract the new version IPL-1.00 included in the latest WM6 Dopod ROM.
I've just upgrade my IPL-050 to IPL-1.00. No problem. Works fine.

Why would you update the ipl?
I mean what's the benefit ?

Why not?
RacerII said:
Why would you update the ipl?
I mean what's the benefit ?
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And why not?
Older version was 0.50 and newest is 1.00.
That's all.
After upgrade IPL version 1.00, my Trinity work always fine.
Filicloe.

I said it before and I'll say it again, flashing the ipl is a un-needed risk, do not do it unless you need to or have a update-addiction problem. If anything goes wrong on the ipl flash there is NO WAY to recover... Better safe then sorry.

"NO WAY to recover"
Shadowmite said:
I said it before and I'll say it again, flashing the ipl is a un-needed risk, do not do it unless you need to or have a update-addiction problem. If anything goes wrong on the ipl flash there is NO WAY to recover... Better safe then sorry.
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I already flash 3 Trinity: mine and two others. No problem. The upgrade IPL procedure is very fast (about 2 secunds).
Thanks again a lot at the senior member ausdim which extract the latest IPL version.
Dopod has release a new IPL version, and I think there is a reason. Why did they upgrade IPL? Only for the fun? It's not serious.
Now, my Trinity get the latest and official IPL, SPL (by Olipro) and Radio ROM.
Filicloe.

Hi,it's already included in the rom FR 3.1 cooking by Faman.

Marcdu81 said:
Hi,it's already included in the rom FR 3.1 cooking by Faman.
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Yes. But I'm not using the ROM FAMAN 3.1.
See my signature below.
And this upgrade can be useful for those who are already in IPL-0.50 and want to change only the IPL Version (instead of flashing a complete ROM with IPL-SPL-RADIO ROM).
Filicloe.

Ok,I just give this information for 3.1 user's,so they don't need to flash with it if they don't know their IPL version.

what is the difference in versions guys??
why are we updating?

Difference between IPL-0.50 and IPL-1.00?
mhbr12742 said:
what is the difference in versions guys??
why are we updating?
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That's a very good question!
But NOBODY know which is (are) the difference(s) between the IPL-0.50 and IPL-1.0.
We can only be sure that's the newest version.
Filicloe.

filicloe said:
But NOBODY know which is (are) the difference(s) between the IPL-0.50 and IPL-1.0.
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which is a good reason not to risk your device for no reason..

Exactly why NO ONE should flash this, maybe this ipl blocks the spl from being modified? Maybe you just implemented some other anti-rom changing code they have yet to turn on... Granted this is a extreme example and most likely not the case, but you have a working device, and are running non OEM roms, it's best to leave the ipl at what was working as it's the most dangerous flash possible on our devices.
More than likely the ipl update fixes a few rare scenarios which might need a reset and/or hard reset to fix the device.

Silly question i know... But what is the IPL for? what does it do?

- IPL :
the IPL (Initial Program Loader) with for role of all copying the contents of ROM SPL in RAM.
- SPL:
Once charged in RAM, the SPL (Secondary Program Loader) commonly called bootloader,charge the Radio ROM and OS in memory and to start the sequence of boot.
For the IPL and the SPL it is very strongly not recommended to update these ROM: for a majority of pda there are several versions of the internal components, and the updates are not compatible between different material because the sequences of starting are different. Moreover once the IPL and SPL upgraded, a return behind is not possible!

Shadowmite said:
Exactly why NO ONE should flash this, maybe this ipl blocks the spl from being modified? Maybe you just implemented some other anti-rom changing code they have yet to turn on... Granted this is a extreme example and most likely not the case, but you have a working device, and are running non OEM roms, it's best to leave the ipl at what was working as it's the most dangerous flash possible on our devices.
More than likely the ipl update fixes a few rare scenarios which might need a reset and/or hard reset to fix the device.
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Dear Shadowmite
OK. Now I understand.
I will flash tomorrow morning the latest official HTC WM5 ROM (1.23.406.2) which restore the original IPL, SPL, RADIO, etc.
After that, I think my Trinity will not be yet SuperCID. No ?
So, are you agree with this procedure:
1- Remake my Trinity SuperCID with the Pof utility v1,
2- Flash SPL 1.30 Olipro
3- Flash Radio ROM 1.46.30.11
4- Update any WM6 ROM.
Please, tell me if this procedure is the best. (I'm sure that a lot of members of XDA-DEVELOPERS will be interested by your response)
Thanks by advance,
Filicloe.