for a big phone isnt it a pain to have to press the top button to wake the damn screen? same thing happened to the nexus one ( has hack that wakes with trackball ) , incredible as well.
I would love this as well...hate hiting the power button...
Yea if someone makes an app that does this they should make the home button unlock it too
Yes, please that would be great. I hate having to use the power button to unlock.
Yea it would be nice if you could hit the home and search button at the same time to turn the screen on
Get the "No lock" app from market. Put the widget on your screen, choose unlocked. Now your phone will wake with the volume rocker. I keep the widget so I can lock it again when working (walking around all day).
yeah but I want to either tap the screen or a capacitive button to wake the phone. The mechanical buttons just feel like junk to me. I would like ot never even have to touch one of the mechanical buttons...
I'm with most of you, coming from my iPhone and having my Evo sit on my desk, I like pressed down on the face, so my phone doesnt move. Power buttons too hard to just tap.
Unfortunately, in order to wake the phone with a soft-key, the capacitive screen would have to be active, which means your phone would already be awake, thereby defeating the purpose of programming such a thing. Paradoxical.
Think along the same lines as a TV that you change the channel in order to turn it on... it'd have to already be on to change the channel in the first place.
Makes sense, I was just hopping for button on the front. I'll just need to adjust.
i wudnt mind having one of my vol buttons as a "wake" button... n then wen the screen comes back on it goes back to its default use as a volume key. this power button kills my shiznet >=|
I think I could get used to having to use the power button, altho I'm gonna side with most of you, being able to wake it from the volume rocker just seems more natural. Maybe once I switch cases the power button will be easier to press...
The power button hump on this silicon skin from Sprint isn't prominent enough, it actually makes it slightly harder to press imo. The hump doesn't protrude out very much and it's right on a mold or manufacturing edge on the skin which doesn't make it any easier to find.
Hoping the Amzer Luxe skin I ordered is better in this regard...
There is a app called menu unlock from team douche. It's available on the market [donate] or on xda for free. You'll need root for it but what it does is get rid of the swipe to unlock the screen. You'll still need to wake with the power button though. I'm trying to see if we can learn from the trackball wake on the nexus to port it to use the volume down button. With this the combo is press volume down then press the menu key and your going vs. swiping or the power button.
"No Lock" app in the market removes the lockscreen and wakes the phone with the volume keys. It was already mentioned in this thread but everyone seems to have ignored it.
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"No Lock" app in the market removes the lockscreen and wakes the phone with the volume keys. It was already mentioned in this thread but everyone seems to have ignored it.
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lol, seriously.
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Would it be possible to configure our Rhodiums to wake from sleep mode upon a quick double tap on the screen? If possible it could be set that only a double tap (one tap followed by another no longer than half a second later for example) would wake the device to ensure accidental knocks in our pocket wouldn't wake it.
Any ideas?
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anyone any ideas?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't possible without seriously jeapordizing battery life, so it wouldn't be something plausible.
Consider that what you're asking means your device will always have to monitor the screen and thus never enter standby mode.
Perhaps you should look into applying the registry fix that will wake your device on any key press (not just the power button). Maybe that will work for you as well, while still letting your device go into standby.
What is wrong with the built-in power button again?
I would like that also (different button to turn on). With the diamond the centre round button would be a better button to turn on the pda than the current power button (which is a little too far recessed for my liking) The centre button is larger but recessed also which would stop accidently turning in on in your pocket.
Link to previous thread regarding pressing any key to wake...
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't possible without seriously jeapordizing battery life, so it wouldn't be something plausible.
Consider that what you're asking means your device will always have to monitor the screen and thus never enter standby mode.
Perhaps you should look into applying the registry fix that will wake your device on any key press (not just the power button). Maybe that will work for you as well, while still letting your device go into standby.
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yeah thats a fair point, ddn't think too much about the implications of it having to perhaps always be awake!
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What is wrong with the built-in power button again?
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Nothing wrong with the power button, just thought itd be a cool feature to be able to do that, but ill stick with whats best!
I think HTC's placement of the power button is perfect. I've been using smartphones and PDAs for a while and that's just the natural spot I EXPECT a power button to be. In fact with my breif stay with a Blackjack II I kept hitting the power button to dim the screen, which on that phone would actually turn it off, like off off.
And as stated above, when your phone goes into standby, the screen turns off, it can't detect anything. In order to keep the sensor on, you would be draining power when your phone really shouldn't.
I'll throw my coin in the hat of "silly idea"
My first Tilt 2, which had a dud microphone, the power button was fine.. It was recessed but easily pressed. My current Tilt 2 I have to press holding the phone longwise.. if I'm holding the phone on the sides I can't press the power button... I'm thinking the screen moves slightly more or the button is more recessed. It's kind of annoying.
Personally I'd also like not have to use the power button all the time myself, although I wouldn't want to tap to do it.. One of the four hardware buttons would be just fine.
Yes, I know sliding and removing the stlyus turn it on too, neither thing I do often.
On the latest CAB I downloaded the End button locks the screen and the power button minimizes all the programs. Is there any way to make the Power button lock the screen and the end button minimize all the programs, like it is in Win Mo? I got a T mobile TP2
The problem is that you would end calls with the lock button as well.
I see. There isn't some way they could code around this? That's weird that it's like that.
This note is from the WIKI.
Note: It's until now impossible to split 'End Call' and 'Power' function in the code, so this last function can't be linked to Power button without it being 'End Call' too. Thus for the ease of ending a call, this function is placed on the normal EndCall-button and Power button is 'Home'.
honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.
I agree. I'd rather have the power button turn the backlight off than the end button. That's the most important. They should make an option or something where people can choose their preference.
i was coming to look for this. i dont mind having to end calls with the power button right now. ill be using standby and home more so id rather those be more natural.
j.action said:
honestly I would find it easier to end calls with the power button anyway. So this seems like a perfectly good compromise to me.
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WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
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for you. obviously we want it though. i would like the end call button to be on the end call button but i want sleep on the top and home key down below more.
having it end call when youre on a call and a home key button the rest of the time would be more ideal. i kinda wish this was the hd2 because the buttons on that would be make sense in android.
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WHAAA???
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Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.
I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.
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I hit the 'power button' to turn off the screen more often than I hit the end button to 'end calls'. I rarely call. I'm a texter. Power button doing what it should > end button doing what it should.
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thats my thoughts exactly. i think even people who make calls turn the phone on and off using the power button more than the end key. i understand how one would like it the way it is, which is why a solution to change it for us would be nice.
I agree
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Can't stop the revolution!
Back in WinMo whenever I end a call I hit the big red button on the screen, then hit the power button to put it to sleep so I can put it in my pocket. Needless to say, being able to just double-tap the power button to accomplish the same thing would be great. The front buttons on the TP2 are so dainty it's annoying to press them honestly.
It's such a trivial thing, but I guess everyone's got their own reasons for wanting it. It would be nice to know how to swap the button assignments for myself even if it's not baked into the Rhodium builds directly.
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I agree with you, whenever I try to press the EndCall button, I always fear of dropping the phone from my hand, Or if you hold the phone in your palm; you have twist your thumb all the way down, seems awkward.
I have a question ... wouldn't it be possible to reassign certain actions and not the default button functions to the hardware keys ?
On windows mobile, this seems to be possible with the rhodium keyboard controller ... it uses a modified driver to achieve that iirc ...
If someone could do that for android, we could assign "turn display off" to the power button, "home + end call" to the end key and so on ... or am I wrong ?
Sorry to double post/bump my question ...
But wouldn't it really be possible to just create a driver that is able to assign certain actions to the buttons instead of static button actions?
Or is this impossible under Android?
I would like to know about this me too...
i use the on screen button to end my calls and using the end key to turn backlight off its unnatural for me...
also it will be cool to have the screens template on end key button...
I actually agree with the idea of the power button ending a call - I hold my phone with my index finger on the top ( a habit I developed after having someone yank a phone away from me), so the power button would be very natural for hanging up as I remove the phone from my ear.
An option, or even info on the files to edit, would be awesome. Could it be as simple as a simple .conf file in the filesystem?
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WHAAA???
You guys like ending a phone call using the power button??? Since when has that EVER been natural? (Other than on an Android device, where the power and the end call are the same button...) Ive had 5-6 HTC devices, don't think I ever recall thinking, "we should be using the power button to end a call.". On some HTC devices the power button isn't even very easy to access. Changing end call to the power button would be a disaster.
LOL
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um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.
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um... it has been (semi) standard on 'dumb phones' for years that the end call button is also the power button.
that being said, i think the best idea is to have some kind of option so people can choose what they prefer. i think you can get used to either way, but it can be really frustrating if you go back and forth between winmo and android to have them be different.
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Yes, on "dumb" phones, and android handsets the power button and the end call button are linked to the same button. The difference is, THESE BUTTONS ARE NOT ON THE TOP OF THE HANDSET. They are on the face of the phone, NEXT TO THE CALL BUTTON.
Like i have said before, switching the end call button to the power button on the Rhodium would be chaos. For the mass majority of users, making the end call button NOT end the call, is ridiculous, and confusing. If you were to go out, and buy an Android handset, you would not even have a power button other than the end call button.
Yes, the only way everyone will be happy, is if you can choose how you want the buttons mapped.
i was thinking not all android devices link the end call and standby buttons together, the nexus one and desire and legend all have them on the top. then when i looked up pictures, they had gotten rid of the send and end call buttons so of course they moved the stand by to the top. i wonder if you press that during a call, would it hand up.
if your ever playing any games and you accidently hit home or any other button then you know what im talking about. since the buttons are touch sensitive you may get some accidental clicks. i wish there was a way you could lock the bottom row of buttons, not sure if its possible though. maybe by combining two of the physical buttons (such as volume up and down) we could lock the bottom row until we need to use those keys again and then we could unlock in a similar fashion. is there anyway possible someone could develop this?
+1 for this. I like the idea of it being toggled with volume buttons, or maybe long pressing the power button and adding it to that menu. It would have to be included in a rom though, you cant give that power to just any app. or you'll never be able to close it without rebooting.
every time i watch a video a hit the search button by mistake. i really wish someone would do this. also it would be better if you hold volume up and power buttons.
Ya I actually just had it happen again with gvba. Note: it really sucks if you accidently hit the back button. Lock please!
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Hi!
My friend has a Play and she asked me how to make screen go blank and lock.
On my Arc, I just touch the power button for a short press.
I am off to search some more....
Ofiaich
you press the power button ? (the same on you BOOT/START your play)
tap it once and it goes BLANK AND BLACK!!
Thanks!
it does not seem to on hers...
maybe she is being too gentle!! I will see her tomorrow again and I will try.
Ofiaich
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Thanks!
Ofiaich
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im not realy sure why it cant lock itself down,im sure she just didnt press the button
Thanks again for your quick reply!
I will teach how to press the button tomorrow!
Maybe she is too gentle!
Ofiaich
Don't be hard on her. The Power button is hideous: ill designed, hard to locate if you don't have the device in your hand and, to add insult to injury, they chose that place to put the LED notificaction light, something which is supposed to be highly visible.
and also make sure that the back cover is on firmly (clicked in from top to bottom, left and right), as that can make it a little tricky to push the bottom properly.
or to save the hassle of fighting the button, search the market for an app that gives you soft buttons (puts a little sliding menu on the screen, which extends to give you on screen buttons that emulate things like power buttons, home buttons, call buttons, all sorts really)
In such small screens, a row of dedicated buttons like Button Savior is a waste of screen real estate. And she would still have to switch on the phone with the button.
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In such small screens, a row of dedicated buttons like Button Savior is a waste of screen real estate. And she would still have to switch on the phone with the button.
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i cant remember what app i tried out, but it only takes up a very tiny tab on the screen. almost unseen. which can be moved to wherever you like. and you could even change if you need to only tap the tab, or hold it, to open up the soft button selection. and if someone is having trouble with the power button, you only need to use the home button to bring the screen back online.
Anybody else bugged by the fact that they put the on/off button, like, the least reachable place on the phone?
I always have to juggle the phone around in my hand to reach the button, and then I have to juggle it back to reach the unlock ring. I mean, the two things I do most, pressing the on button and then sliding the unlock ring, are placed as far apart as possible. It's oddly cumbersome for such an elegant device. It's just a matter of time until I drop the damn thing. (I guess that way HTC sells more replacement screens... )
The volume buttons are where my thumb is, but I never use them. They are mostly in the way and I press them more by accident than on purpose.
Any idea whether there's a way to switch the on and volume buttons? There's probably no mod that can currently do this, but is this technically possible?
That is where the purpose of volume button to wake comes in handy. And yes, it is possible to do that.
Naah... not with me..
Yes it was a little bit difficult... but now I've become used to it....
there's a a mod for that
volume buttons to wake up the phone
use rc 3.0 or else search its thread
ckpv5 posted a long time ago
ummm... try searching -apm+ volume to wake
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I am using the volume wake thingie. But it will, you know, change my volume setting if I listen to any audio. Which I do a lot.
Also, you can't lock the phone with it. Which precludes my main use of the button: unlock phone, check clock or notifications, lock phone.
Anyways, I wondered about the technical possibility of just switching the buttons.
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I am using the volume wake thingie. But it will, you know, change my volume setting if I listen to any audio. Which I do a lot.
Also, you can't lock the phone with it. Which precludes my main use of the button: unlock phone, check clock or notifications, lock phone.
Anyways, I wondered about the technical possibility of just switching the buttons.
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paresh kalinani pls change your signature
the diffrent colours + size is hurting my eyes
@birthdaydog lolss..i wanted the volume keys to be the camera key just when we start the cam as to click self photos easily
quite diff to click self by touching screen
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@birthdaydog lolss..i wanted the volume keys to be the camera key just when we start the cam as to click self photos easily
quite diff to click self by touching screen
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Well, then there is public interest in finding a way to mod the keys, right?
Try a two second timer.
I have somewhat large hands, and the placement doesn't bother me. I can reach the button with my index finger and reach the ring with my thumb.
I do really miss having an external camera button.
yeah its not too much of a problem for me. i can hit the power button, and then use the unlock ring, but it requires a bit of stretching. i dont have to move the placement of the phone in my hand though.