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Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'm going to miss being able to use my phone to pay for things, as I've grown somewhat accustomed to being able to do it. lol I love going to Dairy Queen, or Best Buy, or the drug store and just tapping my phone. I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
mysterioustko said:
Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
NFC is just a chip. You still need the software to use it. For example, I used Google Wallet on my Nexus S (which has a NFC chip). Without software to use the NFC chip with, it's useless. In other words, you have to have some sort of payment software on the phone in order to make use of the NFC as a form of payment.
Lightning N1 said:
Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
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NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
While there has been no official announcement, I don't ever think the Verizon version will ever see Google Wallet. Verizon has teamed up with T-Mobile and AT&T to put together Isis, a competitor to Google Wallet. Thats why we only see Google Wallet or Sprint.
martonikaj said:
NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
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Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
mysterioustko said:
Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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[hfm] said:
I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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Yeah you would think that "officially" you'd be able to do it. Heck all Google would have to do is just put the app in the market to be downloaded and they wouldn't have to deal with the carriers at all (I think lol). But hey, gotta love the guys here at XDA, that got us around all that and brought it to the tmobile nexus. I'm just hoping it can be done on the Galaxy Nexus too.
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
Niksko said:
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
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Perhaps there are legal issues with it. I have no idea. I just wish a standard would be established already so that we can use it in our day to day. I love using my phone to pay for things! lol
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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It's a US-only service, yes. It's just an app so nothing is stopping them from supporting it on the GSM/HSPA version.
I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I meant it as in "the service is currently available in the US only". As far as I know Google has only officially launched the service in the US as of yet. That could just have been a marketing thing though. I'm not sure if it works fine if a seller outside the US just plugs in a comatible NFC-enabled terminal.
Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Interesting. So it's nothing specific needed on the merchant's side other than an NFC-compatible paypass terminal? How does the service work software wise? They could very well have limits on the cards you can use it with.
You might want to check this out.
sitnlow4life said:
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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This is the same thing that I was thinking. This is supposed to be the flagship device...you'd think it would already have Wallet on it...or at least have it available.
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
lukegb said:
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
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Great work! Anyone willing to try this to see if it works? I'd try it but I don't have my Galaxy Nexus yet (thanks to Handtec....). Great to see progress being made so quickly.
Does anyone know for sure if we can use Google Wallet with our One X and if not why not? I'm looking for a solid answer, not speculation if anyone knows for sure. Thanks a lot in advance!
It all depends on your carrier. Even if your unlocked. I'm using an international version on US's AT&T. I can download google wallet, but as soon as I open it tells me my country/carrier is not supported at this time.
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Willieumm said:
Does anyone know for sure if we can use Google Wallet with our One X and if not why not? I'm looking for a solid answer, not speculation if anyone knows for sure. Thanks a lot in advance!
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No. You can download it from the Market but when you open it you get "Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device/carrier." I'm hoping it's not the former because it's picking the phone up as being from the UK. If it's the latter I'm hoping that when AT&T launches the One X it'll be Google Wallet certified. That may not benefit us though because the AT&T phone will have a different model number. Bottom line, don't buy the international One X if Google Wallet is one of your hot buttons.
Unlikely AT&T will ever allow this as I believe all US carriers are collaborating on using an alternative to Google Wallet. The only thing I can think of is to edit build.prop to spoof a UK carrier.
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Well I'm on AT&T as well and when I flashed the google wallet .apk on my Galaxy Nexus I had no problems using it. It wasn't a download from the market, it was a cwm flashable zip and I was able to use it just fine on AT&T. Could this not be done with our One X just the same?
if not, then everyone should get back $50+ on their phones. even descriptions on store sites mention NFC and Google Wallet.
Willieumm said:
Well I'm on AT&T as well and when I flashed the google wallet .apk on my Galaxy Nexus I had no problems using it. It wasn't a download from the market, it was a cwm flashable zip and I was able to use it just fine on AT&T. Could this not be done with our One X just the same?
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AT&T supports Google wallet on the GN and NS.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...still-nothing-for-the-lte-variant-on-verizon/
brent8577 said:
if not, then everyone should get back $50+ on their phones. even descriptions on store sites mention NFC and Google Wallet.
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Neither HTC or Google can do anything if AT&T doesn't add the device to their supported list. The GN and NS are designed to be used on multiple carriers while AT&T has their own version of the One X(L). You can root your phone to get Google Wallet working but I advice against it as it's way too easy for your financial info to be hacked.
BarryH_GEG said:
Neither HTC or Google can do anything if AT&T doesn't add the device to their supported list. The GN and NS are designed to be used on multiple carriers while AT&T has their own version of the One X(L). You can root your phone to get Google Wallet working but I advice against it as it's way too easy for your financial info to be hacked.
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I'm not too sure about that. The application only seems to work on the Nexus devices; even a rooted and unlocked One X with Market Enabler will receive the same error about device compatibility. Sounds to me like Google will have to update Wallet before One X owners can use it.
I read the other day that google has suspend Google Wallet for now as it's so easy to hack in to anyone's account...
http://pymnts.com/briefing-room/mob...oogle-Wallet-Prepaid-Capabilities-After-Hack/
beanbean50 said:
I read the other day that google has suspend Google Wallet for now as it's so easy to hack in to anyone's account...
http://pymnts.com/briefing-room/mob...oogle-Wallet-Prepaid-Capabilities-After-Hack/
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That is an old article. Wallet has received a few updates since then and all is working fine again. Wallet itself was never suspended either. The ability to add new Google prepaid cards was turned off for a short time, and the ability to re-add existing Google prepaid cards that had been removed was disabled for a few weeks after that.
If you were an existing wallet user prior to all the hype you were completely unaffected during that entire time so long as you did not remove your existing prepaid card from with the app itself or wipe/reset your device etc.
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That is an old article. Wallet has received a few updates since then and all is working fine again. Wallet itself was never suspended either. The ability to add new Google prepaid cards was turned off for a short time, and the ability to re-add existing Google prepaid cards that had been removed was disabled for a few weeks after that.
If you were an existing wallet user prior to all the hype you were completely unaffected during that entire time so long as you did not remove your existing prepaid card from with the app itself or wipe/reset your device etc.
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I installed Google Wallet on an AT&T One X in store and it had the same error about being unsupported. FYI
mobilehavoc said:
I installed Google Wallet on an AT&T One X in store and it had the same error about being unsupported. FYI
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Well, that sucks. They could be supporting the Nexi under pressure/cajoling from Citibank/MasterCard/Google. Do any of the phones they sell directly have NFC and support Google Wallet? Being optimistic the One X launch was pushed up and maybe their just not ready yet. There's still no telling if the international version will work because it has a different network ID. Sigh.
if there is some hacked version that works, post it here because i will use it. i don't care if it's not secure. i don't keep money in my bank account for long and i have nothing to hide. ;p
BarryH_GEG said:
Well, that sucks. They could be supporting the Nexi under pressure/cajoling from Citibank/MasterCard/Google. Do any of the phones they sell directly have NFC and support Google Wallet? Being optimistic the One X launch was pushed up and maybe their just not ready yet. There's still no telling if the international version will work because it has a different network ID. Sigh.
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FWIW, I think it uses Market to determine carrier and I'm guessing build.prop possibly for device. I'm sure there's a way to get it to work especially since AT&T is officially supports so it's just the device you have to get over.
It worked on my Galaxy nexus with market enabler. It doesn't with my one X...
Is there any way to fool the phone in to thinking it's a galaxy nexus?
bufodill said:
It worked on my Galaxy nexus with market enabler. It doesn't with my one X...
Is there any way to fool the phone in to thinking it's a galaxy nexus?
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Pretty sure you can fake it in build.prop
mobilehavoc said:
Pretty sure you can fake it in build.prop
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So... anyone wanna try?
Wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the wallet app would accept it if it believes it runs on a galaxy nexus on t-mobile us?
bufodill said:
So... anyone wanna try?
Wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the wallet app would accept it if it believes it runs on a galaxy nexus on t-mobile us?
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How? I tried changing my carrier to t-mobile us with market enabler and had no luck.
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it's my guess that after the security flap, google has really beefed up the barriers for wallet. i've read that google is working on whatever has to be done to jump through the hoops in the eu to enable wallet, so if that happens things might change. or maybe if an agreement is reached with at&t, for example, to enable wallet on its one x's that would change accessibility. otherwise everything i've read says no joy on this right now.
Willieumm said:
How? I tried changing my carrier to t-mobile us with market enabler and had no luck.
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The point was trying to change phone id to galaxy nexus, if it's possible.
Changing carrier ID on the galaxy nexus is confirmed to work, also outside of the states.
Greetings! I'm getting conflicting information if this is actually working or not on AT&T network. Anyone have this working?
A recent news article mentions that AT&T has approved NFC on one x, but chatting with a AT&T Store Manager mentions NFC is still disabled for all devices... Can anyone confirm or deny? Any work arounds?
Thanks in advance!
You want this forum. This is the international One X forum and the AT&T one isn't the same. The AT&T One X is actually the "One XL" but they annoyingly called it the One X as well. The baseband, CPU and GPU are different in the One XL.
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
brent8577 said:
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
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Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue
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This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
krohnjw said:
Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
BarryH_GEG said:
This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
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NFC != Google Wallet. The fact remains ATT can't disable NFC on a device they have no control over. Google Wallet is an app the leverages NFC.
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brent8577 said:
thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
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Speak for yourself before you dish out insults. Your phone has NFC and it WORKS. Google Wallet doesn't work by NFC DOES.
AT&T can NOT stop you from using NFC as a whole but they can stop you from using an app like Google Wallet that requires NFC.
NFC has always worked on your phone, you just think that means you can use Google Wallet when it doesn't.
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Hi,
I am currently using Samsung Galaxy S2( T-mobile T989) installed a mpj 5000mah battery, and both of them are still working good, but I’m moving home to a new country next month, so whether could I keep using the phone in new country??
iojer said:
Hi,
I am currently using Samsung Galaxy S2( T-mobile T989) installed a mpj 5000mah battery, and both of them are still working good, but I’m moving home to a new country next month, so whether could I keep using the phone in new country??
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You should call T-Mobile to unlock your phone, it won't work in other countries unless it is unlocked. If you call T-Mobile it's free!
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However, if T-mobile refuses, you can always use an exploit to unlock for free. Search the forums. It also works for the Skyrocket, GS3, and I believe GS4 as well.
A lot of people are thinking that T-mobile is blocking Tap to Pay on the Note 3 with KitKat. However, it is reported that Tap to Pay works on the T-mobile S4.
T-mobile isn't blocking Tap to Pay; Google simply hasn't integrated the PN-547 chip into Tap to Pay yet. This is why AOSP builds still don't have Tap to Pay. NXP, within the last week, just integrated the PN-547 chip into 4.4, which means it will probably show up in Android 4.4.3.
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A lot of people are thinking that T-mobile is blocking Tap to Pay on the Note 3 with KitKat. However, it is reported that Tap to Pay works on the T-mobile S4.
T-mobile isn't blocking Tap to Pay; Google simply hasn't integrated the PN-547 chip into Tap to Pay yet. This is why AOSP builds still don't have Tap to Pay. NXP, within the last week, just integrated the PN-547 chip into 4.4, which means it will probably show up in Android 4.4.3.
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Doesnt the sprint note 3 have the same nfc chip?
0ri0n said:
Doesnt the sprint note 3 have the same nfc chip?
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I assume yes; does the sprint note 3 tap to pay function on KitKat?
Yup... so there goes that theory.
I was told in store that u need to update to a differnt kinda sim card for tap and pay I think its called a isis sim card l.
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Matrixk101 said:
I was told in store that u need to update to a differnt kinda sim card for tap and pay I think its called a isis sim card l.
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That is to use Isis method, what the majority of people want is Google wallet method. What happen with Isis is that works only with certain Credit Cards and not with all of them, I think is only with Wells Fargo, certain chase cards, and Amex.
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Matrixk101 said:
I was told in store that u need to update to a differnt kinda sim card for tap and pay I think its called a isis sim card l.
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Thats only if you are going to use ISIS as opposed to GWallet. KitKat is supposed to utilize Host Card Emulation so no secure element or secure sim needed. Its built into android, but it seems right now that TMobile and ATT removed that function to force you to use ISIS since that is what they are backing. I could be wrong, but it doesnt make sense that the Sprint Note 3 uses the same NFC controller and can use tap n pay, but the TMobile and ATT variants cant.
0ri0n said:
Doesnt the sprint note 3 have the same nfc chip?
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No it does not. The Sprint variant uses a different NFC controller (NXP P65) that has both a built-in secure element and implements the FeliCa card emulation standard.
This is why Google Wallet works on it on Android 4.3 and on Android 4.4 (using the old SE-based method, not HCE) but not on any of the other variants.
I helped discover this difference. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
OP is correct - we need to wait for the T-Mobile variant's NFC controller to be supported by KitKat's HCE framework.
siraltus said:
No it does not. The Sprint variant uses a different NFC controller that has both a built-in secure element and implements the FeliCa card emulation standard.
This is why Google Wallet worked on Android 4.3 on the Sprint variant but not on any of the other variants.
I helped discover this difference. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
OP is correct - we need to wait for the T-Mobile variant's NFC controller to be supported by KitKat's HCE framework.
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I have a question. Will the new S5 have the same NFC chip as the Note 3? This article says it willhttp://nfctimes.com/news/nxp-wins-back-nfc-controller-business-samsung-flagship-misses-embedded-chip. Also the S5 press release said they'd support both Isis and GW here http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/24/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s5-coming-this-spring/ I'm just trying to piece this together.
cmjkxa said:
I have a question. Will the new S5 have the same NFC chip as the Note 3? This article says it willhttp://nfctimes.com/news/nxp-wins-back-nfc-controller-business-samsung-flagship-misses-embedded-chip. Also the S5 press release said they'd support both Isis and GW here http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/24/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s5-coming-this-spring/ I'm just trying to piece this together.
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No idea, that's up to Samsung. The US variants have the NXP P544 controller, while the international variants have the Broadcom BCM20793 controller (same as used in all the Nexus devices), which is the only chip that KitKat's HCE framework currently supports - this is why phones with the Broadcom chip have Tap-and-Pay while those with the NXP chips don't yet. We need to wait for an update from Google that enables support for the P544 chip in the HCE framework.
The Sprint variant is using the NXP P65, which is a P544 combined with a secure element, which is why Wallet works on it (using the old method, not HCE).
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siraltus said:
No it does not. The Sprint variant uses a different NFC controller (NXP P65) that has both a built-in secure element and implements the FeliCa card emulation standard.
This is why Google Wallet works on it on Android 4.3 and on Android 4.4 (using the old SE-based method, not HCE) but not on any of the other variants.
I helped discover this difference. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
OP is correct - we need to wait for the T-Mobile variant's NFC controller to be supported by KitKat's HCE framework.
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Looks like we have some conflicting info here...
http://www.electropages.com/2014/02/nxp-industry-leading-nfc-controller-integrated-googles-latest-version-android-4-4-kitkat/
NXP Semiconductors has announced that its proven, industry-leading NFC controller, PN547, is successfully integrated with Google’s latest version of the Android 4.4 operating system, ‘KitKat’. This significant milestone underscores the popularity and attractiveness of NXP’s PN547 in a wide range of Android-powered mobile devices, says the company.
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0ri0n said:
Looks like we have some conflicting info here...
http://www.electropages.com/2014/02/nxp-industry-leading-nfc-controller-integrated-googles-latest-version-android-4-4-kitkat/
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That happened a week ago. Definitely not enough time to get it into the Note 3 update. It will probably be in 4.4.3
It's rare to find an excellent informative thread on XDA and the OP nailed it with this one.
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0ri0n said:
Looks like we have some conflicting info here...
http://www.electropages.com/2014/02/nxp-industry-leading-nfc-controller-integrated-googles-latest-version-android-4-4-kitkat/
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PN547 is a new chip. The Note 3 uses the PN544. Not relevant to our problem.
Nevermind, verified to be PN547!
I was running a hacked international 4.4.2 touchwiz rom and tap to pay worked on that. It also works on my Nexus 5. So I see no reason why all of the sudden it's not working for T-Mobile on our Note 3.
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PN547 is a new chip. The Note 3 uses the PN544. Not relevant to our problem.
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OP specifically mentioned the PN547 as being in our phone, and thats what I researched. Shame on me I guess for not verifying the chip in my phone.:silly:
From Hashcode:
"Don't expect NFC to work anytime soon it's a brand new NFC NXP PN547 chip. I'm working on it as I get time."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600883
T-mobile blocking HCE within Kitkat.
Actually if you google the changes that came with Kitkat 4.4.2 from Android itself, one of the changes includes a "tap and pay" option in the Settings under NFC. However this option is not available on the T Mobile note 3 after dating to Kitkat 4.4.2. also if you download the app from the Google Play Store called NFC check you will see that after running the check it there goes that is enabled the Android however HCE is not supported on this device, which it should be with Kitkat update.