[Q] Using a 4G phone's 3G network worth it? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Would getting a Rezound with an off contract price and only using the 3G until my area gets some 4G love worth it.
Or should I just stick with my Dinc and/or get the best 3G phone my area has to offer.
I live on Guam and 4G isn't gonna be implemented any time soon, to my knowledge.
I've been asking about updates/upgrade to the network here and they say it'll happen but not anytime soon...
Yeah, I obviously chose the Rezound over the Nexus, I am hooked on Sense!!!
The few phones I have to choose here if I don't get the Rezound are:
1. Evo 3D
2. Dinc 2
3. Droid X2
I would choose the Evo 3D but think 3D in general is a gimmick but it would be cheaper than getting a off contract priced Rezound.
That is pretty much it, any comments are greatly apreciatated.

You have to think about the hardware and software. The new phones are fast as flash. But about internet speed it might be a little bit faster but I don't know I'm still rocking my Dinc
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Thanks for the insight..
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I don't have 4G either but I upgraded to a nexus. I'm sorta luke warm about it. IMHO all the current line of CDMA Andoid phones a one flaw or another largely specific to each manufacturer.
Razr/MOTO-No removable battery-Locked bootloader-best CMDA Radio
Rezound/HTC-Battery only 1350-fat and heavy-no HDMI-HTC bluetooth stack sucks(PS3/Wii controllers)HTC CDMA Radio So-So
GN/Samsung: No SD card slot, Samsung CDMA radio is poor.
Sorry some of these models aren't on your list but this is what I've had in hand and done research on.

Okay guys,
Thanks for all your input.
However I am suffering quite a big ordeal, well for me at least.
I went ahead and bought an HTC Thunderbolt but I can't use it.
It's just a very fast mini tablet right now that is rooted with Zues.
My carrier is unable to activate it but there is one thing that might work, there is a hack or something that would make it work. They *carrier** say that if the hack is done the 3G won't stick and/or the sms or voice or something like that won't work properly.
I've done my research and I assumed that since my Dinc runs with the same 3G interface as the Tbolt's that I wouldn't have a problem at all. I even asked around even asked the Wirefly ppl about it, they said shouldn't be a problem as long as the CDMA freqs are the same.
Anyways, looking at the phone lists that my carriers offer and after further inspection those most if not all they offer are Sprint phones. How could this be, they offer Verizon type phones and they offer Sprint type phones, what are they doing to able to do this.
In spite of the 3D gimmick, I think I will go with an EVO 3D it's the fastest phone on my carrier or I think it is. What would you suggest, I would have to pay 3xx for the phone.
So now, I gotta find a buyer for the Tbolt recoup from my loss and get a phone.

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EVO 4g On Verizon

I'm plan on getting a Evo on first day, but sprint coverage sucks in my area.Thats why I'm with Verizon.
I want to know can i run the Evo on Verizon network. Dont care bout 4G.I know it should work both cdma networks. but i want to be sure. And if so does it have to be rooted.
And forgive me if this question has been answered didn't see it on the Q&A.
Thanks
Yes the phone would work on the Verizon network from a technical standpoint. I am sure you will have issues getting Verizon to accept the esn though.
Why not just get a HTC Incredible? I know its got a smaller screen and a few other differences, but they are compatible on a few levels and a pretty good phone option. I just don't see the evo as worth the trouble.
Yes i understand. But i dont like the feel of the Incredible.I would rather hold on to my Droid Eris(rooted-thx xda). I really do want the 4.3in screen among other features. Did want a HD2 but its only GSM.
this may seem stupid but im thinking bout calling verizon and asking them about the esn stuff
I'm positive they'll just give you the run around that it needs to be fully tested, etc on their network.
Sometimes you can get them to activate it at little verizon "authorized" shops, but you have to pay more etc.
Once you get to that point, you will need to load a Verizon PRL, not sure what else after that.
Isnt the new Droid thats soon to come got the same 4.3 and 1080 cam? Might wanna just wait for that.
Thanks for the info. I just prefer HTC phones.I had six or more HTC phones since Cingular 2125. They didnt stop working i just buy a new phone every year almost.
um.. the Evo cannot and will not ever run on Verizon's network.... the only exception to this is if your roaming and Sprint uses VZW's towers.
weedahoe said:
Isnt the new Droid thats soon to come got the same 4.3 and 1080 cam? Might wanna just wait for that.
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http://gizmodo.com/5546986/motorola-droid-shadow-found-in-gym
boom baby
wont have a 1080p video recording camera if thats what u were referring too, sensors are to small, even the 14MP cellphone coming out only does 720p recording, but it probably has the same 8MP camera.
Why don't you just port to Sprint? You can roam on VZW's towers, and even if you have to pay an ETF, it will probably be cheaper than buying an evo outright or on ebay.
infamousjax said:
um.. the Evo cannot and will not ever run on Verizon's network.... the only exception to this is if your roaming and Sprint uses VZW's towers.
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not sure..it is possible but you'd have to change the esn/meid to that of a verizon phone..mobile-files would have been the to go for that but they closed their website for some reason
EVO on Verizon
I would Love to see this, I have an EVO also, but just like the my TP2 I don't think this can easily be done.. I'm sure somebody somewhere has it done. though not the traditional way. somebody please show the way.
Why not stick with Sprint and still use VZW's towers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073

[Q] Help me make my decision, due to reception issues

I live in an area where there is decent connection. My epic is being all crazy, and now i cant make calls while im inside the house, and 4g is no longer usable...EVER. I've heard from other forums that the. nexus s 4g and the epic 4g have reception issues, where the evo picks up great signal. I've gotten my phone replaced a lot, and the guy at sprint said I can trade my phone at this point for A:Nexus S 4g, or B:Evo 4g. I thought about the nexus and its vanilla flavorings, but after researching the phone, people say exactly what I'm experiencing right now. I think its a hardware issue from Samsung, since both phones are manufactured by them, and HTC has a better antenna. What do you all think?
HTC usually has software issues but if you are happy with stock then why not try one and see if it works better for you. If you already researched that Samsung phones have the same reception problems for you then sounds like your decision is made. It could be your area though. If the issue is just in your house, Sprint will give an Airave to use if you have an internet connection to make calls through. Then you can ride out the Epic until the next wave of trio or quad core processor phones.
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I live in an area where there is decent connection. My epic is being all crazy, and now i cant make calls while im inside the house, and 4g is no longer usable...EVER. I've heard from other forums that the. nexus s 4g and the epic 4g have reception issues, where the evo picks up great signal. I've gotten my phone replaced a lot, and the guy at sprint said I can trade my phone at this point for A:Nexus S 4g, or B:Evo 4g. I thought about the nexus and its vanilla flavorings, but after researching the phone, people say exactly what I'm experiencing right now. I think its a hardware issue from Samsung, since both phones are manufactured by them, and HTC has a better antenna. What do you all think?
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Have you tried flashing different modems? I know there have been a wide array of opinions on all the different available modems. Most seem to have the best reception with the EC05 modem, but some have said its horrible. Its all really trial and error based on where you live. Also, there has been tons of talk regarding Sprint towers being upgraded all over the place which causes some great fluctuation in service at all different time of the day. Bottom line, In my opinion, its the spectrum Sprint is using that causes all of these reception issues! Just my humble opinion...Good Luck!
Samsung's antenna's have always been sub-par. You want the best? Go with a Motorola, like the Photon.

Sprint galaxy nexus users

The sprint Galaxy Nexus will be launched soon, and I was wondering who will be looking to buy this phone. Since the 1st launch specs have mysteriously been pulled it seems there is no official knowledge of whether there will be a 1.5 cpu, or the same specs as the Verizon version. Sprint's newer ad's only show a picture of the phone with vague basic information.
We know that LTE is not rolling out for a while, bu we still bought the EVO 4G. We also know that the LTE band probably will change in the future, but my Photon is still getting Wimax 4G when I am in NYC. I am looking for my 1st Google experience, with a great display, and NFC. I also hope that the antenna, and GPS issues are fixed!
Man can't believe there gonna real ease this phone on sprint I feel bad for anyone that gets it in the phoenix area
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I think its pretty safe to assume it will be 1.2ghz.
Google isn't going to want to fragment their baby in that manner.
If I was still on Sprint I would get it. Well I did get it but jumped to Verizon for it. Now I have a great phone on a great network...
Don't know what GPS issues you are talking about either...GPS is totally fine on the device.
As far as radios, seems like there might have been some bad hardware. If your device isn't defective then the radio's are just fine...
I think Sprint's version will have other issues it might face as a first device on a brand new LTE network.
I don't think there will be any LTE issues for it on Sprint. After all, it will be available almost nowhere to be able to have it drop or be unstable. /potshot
adrynalyne said:
I don't think there will be any LTE issues for it on Sprint. After all, it will be available almost nowhere to be able to have it drop or be unstable. /potshot
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Haha...good point
i'm confident that this will be the same exact version as the Verizon CDMA variant. no gpu updates/no 1.5 clock/no LTE. these are always pipe dreamed whenever a carrier releases it after another has had it. Sammy aint puttin in any more into a phone that wont be a top seller anyway. because only 10-15% of the droid population even know what the nexus is. Apple/HTC/MOTO will get those newbie sales.
pretty much buying this phone cuz i love my nexus S 4g, and just looking for a more capable hardware to run ICS
the 3g will suck like it does now/the LTE rollout will be shaky at best/and no wimax to bail out the crappy 3g speeds
My expectations are right where they need to be. I bought the evo 4g on launch day and after that i learned "it is what it is."
but my major buying point of this over the coveted SGSIII is the fact that i KNOW the GN will run the next iteration of android (Jelly Bean?) before any phone that released this generation will. Ive been around long enough to realize that only newer/vanilla phones get the upgrades. (2.2/2.3/4.0) say what you want about the nexus s, but it was first to run ICS officially/unofficially. meanwhile people with the best hardware spec'd phone SGSII/Epic Touch are running BETAs of it at best...
so the GN will still be relevant a year from now. just the nexus s is still relevant to any1 not on verizion or whoever copped the EU version.
Just sad how late its coming out. And even still, LTE will be a joke for the next year at least on Sprint.
I made the mistake of buying the Evo 4G on launch day expecting WiMax to be good. Wouldn't make that mistake again.
martonikaj said:
Just sad how late its coming out. And even still, LTE will be a joke for the next year at least on Sprint.
I made the mistake of buying the Evo 4G on launch day expecting WiMax to be good. Wouldn't make that mistake again.
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I made the mistake of signing a new contract with them last year for the EVO 3D. Good thing a new material change last month allowed me to jump ship to T-mobile. What a joke of a carrier...
I cannot wait to get this phone.
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This means more devs which means more ROMs
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[Q] Data while on phone?

This is something I just discovered the other day and it kinda bugged me out cause as far as I knew data while on voice wasn't possible on CDMA.. But I was inside a cafe getting lunch, and while on the phone I had to look up something on ticketmaster and was amazed that I was actually able to surf the web while on the phone. I have had blackberries, WM phones and an Evo prior to this and it was never possible (unless on wifi) I'm in NYC so there is no LTE available yet.. Has anyone who is in a non-LTE market able to do this?
I've seen this mentioned before by some others. Here's a link to one such thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764756
Thanks! When I saw this I kissed my phone, LOL.. But really this is why this phone is so damn amazing.. It makes it so much easier to quickly look something up then to have to say "lemme look this up real quick I'm gonna call you back".
Yep it's great isn't it. The newer phones on Sprint or at least Galaxy 3 and Evo LTE are svdo capable aka simultaneous voice and data. Thank God cdma networks can now do this (Sprint, Verizon) as the gsm networks (TMobile, and AT&T) have been able to do this for a long time.
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Yup! And don't forget the LG Viper it was the first LTE phone to bring the feature. Kinda messed up the Galaxy Nexus is the only LTE phone that don't support it.
yeah, I found this out today and I about screamed out of joy!. I was downloading G Maps and had to call my wife, so I called her and realized the 3G icon didn't go away, like it does on the Epic 4G (my last phone). And I had to tell my wife "hold on" and went back to my notifications and realizeed GMaps was still downloading. What a great feature on a CDMA phone. One more reason to love my GSIII I wish i could find out who thought of this, so I could buy him/her a beer. Peace!
i never even paid attention... usually the only time im using data while on the phone is at home with wifi or occasionally when im on 4g which of course is not cdma... never new this feature was implemented... good to know gsm no longer has the one up on us...
Does this chipset use a different 3G technology?
I remember when the Thunderbolt came out for Verizon everyone was amazed that it could do this and the reason was Verizon/Thunderbolt's Chipset was using some different type of EVDO revision that allowed it to work or something. Maybe I'm wrong on the technical details lol, but the general idea is right.....

Chinese phone on Verizon 4g LTE

I've been doing some reserach and thinking that in the future when my phone breaks I'd like to get take a gamble and try one of those Chinese phones. I'd like to keep my Verizon's unlimited data plan with the 4G LTE. I was refered to this site and told to ask here about ROMs and Kernals to conver the phone's 4G frequency to 700mhz to match Verizons. I have yet to find many chinese phones that run on 4G and have found none that run on the 700mhz frequency. So my next plan is to reprogram the phone to run on the Verizon frequency.
Now I have the Droid Razr with 4G. It has a SIM but I was reading that the GSM was disabled so the phone just runs on the CDMA network. Correct me if it's wrong, but that's my understanding for the time being. Anyway I'm looking to reprogram a Chinese phone to someday replace my Droid Razr. If anyone can point me in the right direction of ROMs of kernals that would be fantastic, even some direction on the right devics would be fine too.
Thank you for your time.
Does anyone have any input on this? Is it even possible?
i dont think is possible because frequencies are hardware based
I was told I just needed a new kernal and ROM. I understand that the hardware is designed to run on a few different frequencies and that it just needed to be reprogramed. Can anyone confirm this?
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I'm looking to do the same. I'm not due for an upgrade until next year and my Galaxy Nexus flash memory is failing. I only need something to carry me over until my renewal, and I'm not going to buy an S4 or something for $600 until then... a ~$200 knock-off with decent hardware would be fun to play with, easy to carry and can be handed down to a kid on a prepaid network later (or used simply as a wifi/media/GPS device). Only problem is that it's hard to tell what is supported and what is not.
Any insight from those more experienced would be appreciated.

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