So I understand from reviews from when the One X and XL were first released that the XL had better battery life than the X. But since then the X has seen a bunch of updates, so how's the battery life now? Are the two comparable or does the XL still have the advantage?
I'm looking at getting one of the two, but still can't decide between them...
battery life would go to the XL, until nvidia updates the Tegra 3 kernel, it doesn't help that we're using an ancient kernel. Once they do that whenever that may be, we should have better battery life.
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The XL has better battery life for general use... Until you start using LTE data, at which point it drains much quicker than the X (although the XL definitely has the best battery life of any LTE phone right now)
The X's battery life has gotten considerably better since release. I wouldn't say it's excellent now (a term reserved for phones such as the RAZR Maxx and Galaxy Note), but I get a day or so with brightness on auto, sync on, wifi connected now and then, a few calls, a decent amount of gaming and surfing, a fair bit of Spotify streaming, some tethering to my tablet and some stored and Youtube videos.
I mean, in a day where ALL of this happens, I'd probably get home with 5%, but never in danger of not being contactable. It uses next to no power while on standby (in case you're worried you'll run out before you get home) and once it finally shuts down, it'll give you another 10 minutes or so if you start it back up (not sure if that's a feature or a bug, but it's useful in an emergency).
I guess it's all based on what you need.
Has Nvidia said anything about the update on tegra drivers?
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battery life would go to the XL, until nvidia updates the Tegra 3 kernel, it doesn't help that we're using an ancient kernel. Once they do that whenever that may be, we should have better battery life.
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I have tried the following roms: android revolution, chameleon (that pokemon one), slim ics, cyanogenmod9, miui.
None of them improved my battery life appreciably in the sense that at no point did I go, wow, my battery is better. The battery lasts ME 8 hours, maximum. I didn't do any scientific tests with the different ROMs. It seems to me that by FAR the dominant determinant of battery life is the screen. When I see the battery logs/graphs of people on this forum, they report that the X (the international version) can last 24 hours, etc. Really, all that is needed is the screen on time. Why? Because we already know that you can leave this phone on standby for days and days. This is something that nvidia really go right. But wow, that screen, it sucks the juice dry like nobody's business.
When I see logs/graphs that show that the screen is 33% of the battery's usage, I take that to mean that either the phone was not being used much, or was just being used to talk/listen to music, but it definitely could not have been on for very long, or it was on at the lowest possible setting. With my usage patterns, when I'm actually looking at the screen (surfing, writing emails, reading a book) my screen takes up 70% of the battery's juice. On autobrightness, my screen can be on for 3 hrs, 15 minutes. I do not believe I have a faulty battery, nor do I believe that I have a faulty phone. I believe that this is just the way that the One X truly performs. I'm going to pay attention to the iphone 4's screen on time, but before I go and run the test, my impression is that it is around the 5 hour range.
I have no issues with the one x's standby time. It basically doesnt use any power on standby.
The key for me is not that I wish for some magical advances in technology right now. My benchmark is how does this phone perform with regard to the latest and greatest out there? And my impression is that it is a step behind. I'm currently testing my iphone4, and will pay attention to the usage. But all I can tell you is that my usage patterns haven't changed over the last 2 years, while my phone has. My iphone 4 can last me throughout the day, but this one x, most definitely does not. I was completely blown away by the anandtech review that stated that the one x from AT&T, was absolutely the most battery efficient phone currently in production. I have the one x int'l version, and it is still no slouch and compares favorably to the 2 yr old iphone 4 acc to anandtech's batt benhmarks. So when I got my one x int'l version, I was astonishingly disappointed.
That said, I would not take anandtech's benchmarks literally. They're good for relative comparisons. They're also famous for showing how battery efficient the macs are, and in no way do I ever approach the battery runtimes they report.
To me the only remaining question is if getting the S4 processor inside my phone would improve battery life to iphone 4 levels. I believe that it may, even though I just said that screen time is the dominant factor. I do recall noticing that when I'm just reading an ebook, and the processor is idling, the battery drain isn't actually nearly as fast. So maybe the cpu will improve. My biggest dilemma is whether having updated, rewritten drivers for the tegra 3 really can do wonders. I am skeptical that a) this will ever be done in a timely fashion b) if drivers will have a big enough effect on a fundamentally older architecture and manufacturing process. As we know the tegra 3 uses a 40 nm process, while the S4 uses a 28 nm process.
Truth be told, in all honesty--my biggest mistake was ever buying the iphone 4. For all that that phone can not do, and my philosophical differences with their approach to products, I did not realize until now that the things that that phone does, it does incomparably well...and that phone has checked off all the right boxes for me: battery life, perceived speed, gorgeous screen, design, etc.
Are there two kernels? The ICS kernel and the tegra 3 kernel? When I put cyanogenmod9, I have the ICS kernel, right? We have no control over the tegra 3 kernel? Just not sure if ICS source code can affect the tegra3 kernel.
My one x easily out performs my gnex and gs2 in battery and I don't tippy toe with my phone either emails, widgets, browsing, downloading, auto brightness its a powerful phone don't see why I should run it conservative especially when it can handle the pressure easily if I want conservative ill buy a Nokia
I agree with lamenramen I hate people posting screen shots of their phone on standby times its effing pointless because they've left their phone on standby for three days and haven't touched it what's the point of showing those stats if your not using the damn phone its as useless as posting up a picture of tree
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Imo with future updates from HTC and the tegra3 update from Nvidia optimised for ICS we'll see battery life improvements.
I never believed....
I could never believe that my HOX will give me this much battery life!
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I could never believe that my HOX will give me this much battery life!
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because you barely used your screen..its only at 31% usage over 2 days
If you want to see crazy battery just leave your phone on standby and don't use it same thing eh its the screen that uses most battery
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I LOVE the Galaxy Nexus, but the rate at which the battery discharges is just ridiculous. I'll use the phone for 15 minutes doing things like Twitter or Web Browsing, and it'll discharge 5% in that time. To me, that is horrible. I'm being really conservative too. Throughout a day I try not to play videos, games, or anything else intensive because I know it'll ruin my battery life. Even on standby it discharges 5% in an hour. Typically I lose about 10% an hour and my max has been 12 hours so far.
I have auto sync turned on and keep the screen low when possible. I NEED auto sync on because of the nature of my work. Compared to my iPhone 4S battery is downright pathetic.
Today my usage consisted of one phone call, a few text messages, lots of Twitter, and light web browsing. Nothing too crazy. Again I'm being really conservative with my usage whereas on my iPhone I can do whatever I want and not worry. I'm just not seeing how people are getting 15+ hours and claim heavy usage. I'd love to believe that! The battery drains so fast during normal usage it may be a deal breaker for me.
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It sounds like your definition of light usage is wrong.
I wouldn't consider heaps of twitter and some web browsing light usage. I would consider it moderate usage, in which case you seem to be in line with everyone else.
I agree with you in that the battery life isn't quite what I would have liked. Ideally I wouldn't have to worry about battery at all, and I'd be able to play games and browse the web as much as I like, but for normal usage it's fine.
The next Nexus though, man, that will only have to be charged once a month. I can't wait.
Niksko said:
It sounds like your definition of light usage is wrong.
I wouldn't consider heaps of twitter and some web browsing light usage. I would consider it moderate usage, in which case you seem to be in line with everyone else.
I agree with you in that the battery life isn't quite what I would have liked. Ideally I wouldn't have to worry about battery at all, and I'd be able to play games and browse the web as much as I like, but for normal usage it's fine.
The next Nexus though, man, that will only have to be charged once a month. I can't wait.
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Twitter hardly taxes the processors at all. Refreshing it every so often should hardly take any battery life at all. Web Browsing I can understand, but my total time browsing today probably amounts to 10 minutes total.
I wonder how much of the drain is attributed to the 4.65" screen. It's a monster.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I wonder how much of the drain is attributed to the 4.65" screen. It's a monster.
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Most of it. 720p Super AMOLED HD is killing the battery. The only way to last a long time is to not turn the screen on.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I've had the phone for a week so far.
almost 3hours of screen from 10h standby!! mate give us a break and get back 4s. !!
heavy usage not low!
i can see low signal (coverage) what can also produce higher battery drain.
twiter running 24/7 in backround sync on + wifi + games...
i dont know what you want... you will never get anything similar from for example HTC sensation or even your favourite 4s.
dont take it on bad way..but if you dont know what to do - try to save your battery..
-lower your screen britness
-remove/disable apps that are producing the heavy drain (use betterbatterystats app)
-stop playing games - if you wanna long life for your battery.
-etc...
Best regards
People using a G2x claim to get a day and a half... I'm lucky to get out of work. Push email for work is to blame I think. I get tons of emails (100 a day) and I think its taxing. From your pics, the screen used over 50% of it. That's a lot.
Sucks.
Also make sure your aren't turning on the screen every 5 minutes to check the status. Since your coming from an iOS, are you closing apps properly (back = close, home = minimize).
I'm not saying your crazy but just saying.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I had the same thing happen with the Nexus One. The battery wasn't that great but, got better after a few charge cycles.
I've never had a Android phone that could match the battery life of the Iphone. I can sit the iphone down at night without putting it on the charger and, if it's at 100% it will be at about 90-95% when I wake up. I did the same thing with my Mytouch 4G and, it was at 15%
To the OP, I would recommend keeping a charging cable with you when you out and about especially in your car. I've had car docks with a few of my android phones and, always keep the phone docked when I'm driving somewhere. It really helps.
What you also need to remember is this is the first release of ICS and is still in development so battery life my be improved in the next update. Like you mention iPhone4S there was massive battery leakage in the first release of IOS 5 which Apple apparently fixed in the newest update.. So maybe in the next update we can expect some bugs ironed out.
Used to only have ONLY 2-3 hours screen ON on my Vibrant so I know how SAmoled looks like.
I know iphone battery is good, but you need to consider the screen size too..
Get a spare battery with your "light usage", but I am thinking how much would it cost becoz of the NPC antenna.
Too good thing is, unlike iPhone, you can buy a spare battery and carry it with you.
3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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exactly what i am trying to say
+1
Hunteres said:
almost 3hours of screen from 10h standby!! mate give us a break and get back 4s. !!
heavy usage not low!
i can see low signal (coverage) what can also produce higher battery drain.
twiter running 24/7 in backround sync on + wifi + games...
i dont know what you want... you will never get anything similar from for example HTC sensation or even your favourite 4s.
dont take it on bad way..but if you dont know what to do - try to save your battery..
-lower your screen britness
-remove/disable apps that are producing the heavy drain (use betterbatterystats app)
-stop playing games - if you wanna long life for your battery.
-etc...
Best regards
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I already said I didn't play any games today and my screen brightness is low. For some reason Shadowgun stays in the battery info screen. I played the game two days ago and manually closed it out. Even after rebooting the phone its still there.
I'm being 100% real, stop trying to make excuses or act like I'm an iPhone fanboy. The Galaxy Nexus combined with ICS is the best phone I've ever used! I'm just terribly disappointed with the battery life.
Twittering all day is sucking up battery because of all the data use. Dude, youre not a light user with 3 hours screen time moderate, possibly heavy depending on background stuff sycing automatically. You have some tweaking to do, not whining.
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3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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3 hours is not that much. Seriously. It shouldn't be damn near dead after 10 hours. Imagine if I decided to play a game for 15 minutes or watch 2 YouTube videos.
I bet if people were getting an hour and half with this phone, all the fanboys here would say the same thing. "Man, an hour and a half is a long time! You should be happy with that!".
pukemon said:
Twittering all day is sucking up battery because of all the data use. Dude, youre not a light user with 3 hours screen time moderate, possibly heavy depending on background stuff sycing automatically. You have some tweaking to do, not whining.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.
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I've tested out the battery difference by turning off auto sync. Doesn't make a difference at all. Fact of the matter is that the battery drains like crazy when the screen is on.
I'll just turn my phone on because actually using it is frowned upon here.
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Too good thing is, unlike iPhone, you can buy a spare battery and carry it with you.
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Except they aren't out yet
Hi guys,
Go this One X about 2 weeks ago tomorrow, so I'm guessing the battery has now reached its maximum capacity. Yesterday I was using my phone loads, I had nothing to do and so I kept messing about on it and I got these AMAZING statistics. I'm on 1.29, and for a heavy day of usage these statistics are excellent!
Anyone else seeing anything like this
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The battery consumption in standby is almost negligible. 3% for all the night. Having the same kind of statistics since last 38days. But the consumption when the screen is on, isn't so great. But for me it can easily sustain for a day, only thing I have to keep my hands off my mobile.
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I have often noted not a single % loss overnight! I couldn't believe it when I went to bed (it was 91%) and woke up 7 hours later and it was still at 91%. I confirmed this behaviour over about 3 or 4 nights - same. Very impressed. Overall I must say that I am actually pretty impressed considering what this phone is packing inside. Over the weekend when I'm not using my phone as much as during the week (family duties call ;-) I can go about 2 days without a charge which is outstanding. The One X is by far the best handset I have ever owned. I love it.
yup 5th battery saver ninja core Nvidia was correct about this one at least
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That's really good actually, much better than mine so maybe over the next few days I will see an increase in battery life compared to what I already have. You have charged yours though around the Yellow drop down mark
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I have often noted not a single % loss overnight! I couldn't believe it when I went to bed (it was 91%) and woke up 7 hours later and it was still at 91%. I confirmed this behaviour over about 3 or 4 nights - same. Very impressed. Overall I must say that I am actually pretty impressed considering what this phone is packing inside. Over the weekend when I'm not using my phone as much as during the week (family duties call ;-) I can go about 2 days without a charge which is outstanding. The One X is by far the best handset I have ever owned. I love it.
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I agree with this statement. I can't go that long without a charge, but there again I am always using my phone so you know. The GSIII has nothing on this, it really doesn't.
shree.cse said:
The battery consumption in standby is almost negligible. 3% for all the night. Having the same kind of statistics since last 38days. But the consumption when the screen is on, isn't so great. But for me it can easily sustain for a day, only thing I have to keep my hands off my mobile.
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Same here.
Wish I could say the same I struggle to get a full day out of mine and I hardly use my phone apart from the odd bit of facebook
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Wish I could say the same I struggle to get a full day out of mine and I hardly use my phone apart from the odd bit of facebook
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disable all the last 4 settings in the sound menu, no fastboot in power options and battery is better on 1.28 and 1.29 so whats ur firmware?
Screen times?
My One X did 2 days 7 hours once but it means nothing if you haven't really used your phone...
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Screen times?
My One X did 2 days 7 hours once but it means nothing if you haven't really used your phone...
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Ran out of battery before I could report, but it was about 4-5 hours
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disable all the last 4 settings in the sound menu, no fastboot in power options and battery is better on 1.28 and 1.29 so whats ur firmware?
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Already done that sadly fella, manual sync, manual brightness too
I'm on 1.29 at the mo, just switched to a new Kernel so hopefully should get an improvement
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Already done that sadly fella, manual sync, manual brightness too
I'm on 1.29 at the mo, just switched to a new Kernel so hopefully should get an improvement
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Totally recommend a factory reset, by the sounds of things your battery needs calibrating or something firmware wise is wrong.
Done it many a time mate (I install new ROMs every week or so)
As for calibrating my battery I have done it once but I will be trying it again soon
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Done it many a time mate (I install new ROMs every week or so)
As for calibrating my battery I have done it once but I will be trying it again soon
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There's a market application that can do it, but it will install those annoying adds that put the little green '+' in your notification bar, however uninstalling the application will remove these.. so you could do a calibration and run
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Ran out of battery before I could report, but it was about 4-5 hours
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Will wait anxiously for your next battery drain where you capture the screen showing that much screen on time...
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There's a market application that can do it, but it will install those annoying adds that put the little green '+' in your notification bar, however uninstalling the application will remove these.. so you could do a calibration and run
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Sounds like a plan cheers. Whats the app called?
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I'm also really impressed with the battery life
It's so much better than my old iPhone 4S
Here's a screenshot of a few days usage (using the phone whenever I needed, no just leaving it idle for days.... )
I wish i could be that enthusiast about the battery life. I ran the HTC Battery Test and it went from 100% to 89%, which is supposed to be really good (or at least shows that there is nothing wrong with the battery). However, when the screen is on, the battery level decreases pretty quickly. I've seen people here who use the screen for 4 hours and still have 50% battery but it's clearly not my case.
I've had the phone for like 10 days, so maybe it will get better. Let's hope so
tommmtom said:
I'm also really impressed with the battery life
It's so much better than my old iPhone 4S
Here's a screenshot of a few days usage (using the phone whenever I needed, no just leaving it idle for days.... )
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It is because you have hardly used the phone as indicated by the fact that the screen is only at 28%. The standby life is good, however as soon as you start using the phone battery goes down fast. Also it does not update battery properly while in standby, as soon as you start using it the battery will drop by 5-6% in one go.
Good day.
I am about 2 years on my HD2 running MIUI rom and am very happy with it, however always searching for a new phone. All is good except the internal storage always get full )) And the new HTC One X looks perfect for me, thats what I want.
Have read a lot of topics here regarding the battery life and this looks not as good... so just to ask has anybody switched from HTC HD2 to HTC One X and what the difference in battery life you noticed? Is it better comparing with HD2 or worse if you use it the same way?
I can get 2 days on my HD2 on MIUI rom with a few usage (30 min internet, 20 min calls, 5 sms, push/15 min). On normal usage I get 1 full day. (30 min GPS WAZE, 60 min internet, 30 min calls, push/15 min)
Never used a HD2 but the one x screen is a monster battery drain. I've never got anywhere near 2 days with any roms unless I just keep it in my pocket and don't use it lol. I see limited battery life as a trade off for the brilliant screen.
Might be worth asking on the galaxy s3 forum about their battery life?
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I have made the same move, moved from extreme hyperdroid HD2 to HOX (1.29.xxx.11) two months ago, and here is what I have found so far.
As many HOX owners say here, HOX is a battery eater, mainly due to its huge screen and 40nm multi core processor.
Even with an extra 570mAH juice, it may not last for whole day on heavy use, as the companion core won't save the juice while the phone is in use. On the other hand if you are not a heavy user as you have mentioned above, probably you won't have to worry about the battery life.
On a direct comparison between the two :
1. Battery
With the same usage amount while I commute by train (about 70 min of screen on, music and web browsing), HD2 left with 65% of battery while HOX had 74%.
2. Signal Strength
Both WiFi and 3G signal strengths are somewhat better than HD2. I'm on the same Optus network and where HD2 couldn't get the signal, HOX could get at least 1 bar.
3. Screen, weight and other performance
No need to mention it, they are not in the same league. HOX is lighter, bigger, brighter, clearer, faster and more stable. No need for overclocking, under voltaging, testing different kernels etc.
Cons : As the development of HOX is still in an early stage, it may have some glitches, eg. SD card storage problem which is fixed in .11 firmware etc. However I'm sure such wrinkles will be ironed out soon.
pixiedixie, thanks for that. I well understand that HOX is a great battery eater, but as I can see from your post the battery will last a bit longer with the same tasks comparing to HD2. That's good, cause nobody wants to downgrade ))
Well mentioning the development, I think that will be solved sooner or later. You know... HD2 was running WinMo 6.5 before... ))
Hi mate, waiting for my HOX, to arrive, have a Sensation at the moment, which has the energy Rom, but son needs new phone sick of the HD2 (Energy Rom also) so a phone shuffle, I am also on Optus, what's your opinion of the HOX ?, and what's it like on Optus for Data ?
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Had a HD2 for 2.5 yrs ... first, on Hyperdroid GB ... then, Tytung ICS. Bought my HOX a month back.
Overall, HOX is better in all respects.
Specifically,
1. Battery: I used to get a full day from HD2. Charge before sleeping, disconnect in morning. Same for HOX. Medium user. Get 17 hours with around 4.5 hrs screen time, 3G always on.
2. Wifi much faster in HOX.
3. Screen much better, especially in sunlight. Much faster in opening big apps. Smoother. No lags.
4. Have read about various issues in HOX. I have a perfect HOX.
5. Stock ROM in HOX is excellent. Don't find the need to flash.
HD2 was an awesome phone ... with Android. I liked it. However, HOX seems better in all respects.
cheers,
- manish
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Just to move it a little up? Anybody else?
Same here 2.5years with HD2/hyperdroidcm7/fikret.... was happy with hd2.... but now my hands are scratching... HOX vs S3... so confused...
hox = good looks,good screen,less than s3 battery life..
VS
s3 = better battery, sd-slot, no heating problem,
think i would wait for 2 more week for S3 to be displayed in store.
Than I will choose.. But Still..... SO CONFUSED...
It's weird.... I start on android 1.5years back, kept became a flasholic coz it wasnt perfect. 3 months back I stopped as I found the perfect combination of hyperdroidcm7 and fikret kernel... so i stopped flashing... and now I'm bored of the phone... Sometimes I wonder if I want to purchase my phone just to keep installing custom rom... lol..
battery using internet on wifi can be compared to about 1% per minute. while downloading or playing heavy 3d games its aprox 2 ~ 4 % per minute.
battery is very poor, and the tegra 3 is power hungry... these two do not combine at all!
I am getting better battery life in my hox . 18 hours off the charger and auto brightness on and 1.30 hours of on screen and 30 min of voice call and still 56 percent left.
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Thanks for the info, guys! That's what I want to hear. ))
sygys, strange to hear... my old HD2 with 3 years old battery loses around... hmm, 1% of... I don't know - 5 minutes or more of internet. When gaming, Angry Birds e.g. that's around 1% per 1-2 minutes.
May be thats more reasonable for you to take your device for repairs if the warranty is not void?
I found that it's very dependent on your rom and kernel and how efficient it's at standby. Here's my usual HD2 battery life on light-medium usage. I would think the one x would last longer if its rom and kernel was just as optimized.
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HD2 > HOX
Had an HD2 rooted to headyhoneybadger CM7
A marvelous beast.
Solid as a rock, loved it.
Had extended battery. Heavy user, internet web sites, email, facebook, texts
With the extended battery always had a full day's heavy use.
Got a HOX.
Can't get an extended battery, nowhere to put it!
Recharging throughout the day.
Got an Anker Astro 3 (10000 mAh battery) In case no car or wall socket around.
Phone gets hot sometimes, really hot. Once, while charging, too hot to keep charging!
Haven't felt the need to root. (don't feel the need for titanium, don't cheat apps, backup all my settings and data anyway. Use Deja Office w/ Outlook)
87 apps
Runs faster than, well Fast. Screen is a gem.
Running Nova Launcher.
Got ICS Enhanced Ringer Control to fix the ganging of ring and notification sound levels bug in ICS
I Loved my HD2, sad when I Ebay'ed it.
The guy who won it way buying it for his brother.
He had one. He also had bought one for his cousin in Guatemala.
ICS is great. HOX is a great phone, very stable.
I made the right move. Battery, heat, and all, it's a great machine.
I have owned the following HTC Phones:
Under AT&T (and Cingular):
SX56
SX66
8125
X7500
X7510
Under T-Mobile:
HD2
Back to AT&T:
One X
The 8.4" should be the perfect size... But the 4800 mah battery doesn't look too promising on paper.
It's about the same as the note 8 and has a bigger/much higher resolution screen and a faster SoC... and the battery on the Note 8 wasn't great to begin with.
Any idea how the the tab Pro will fare?
Apple increased the weight/thickness to maintain the battery life on the mini with retina display... Wonder if Samsung should've done something similar.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...F8&qid=1391889878&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+8.4
According to the product description in Amazon it's up to 6 hours..!! Wth samsung this is ridiculous, I want to buy this tablet but now I must looking for alternatives
6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.
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6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.
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No, it does NOT sound good...
What are they thinking...?
Isn't "Grab-it-in-the-morning-till-recharge-it-in-the-evening" a self-imposed, crystal-clear specification by now?
Don't design teams use these kind of devices, themselves?....What the....!?
XK
Looking at the official samsung website, it lists the tab at 12 hrs for video playback and 10hrs for browsing
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Battery Type and Size 5.3 Volt, Lithium Ion, 4800 mAh
Music Play Time Up to 127 hours*
Video Play Time Up to 12 hours*
Internet Use Time Up to 10 hours*
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That is iPad mini levels. Don't expect that. Even if its 80% of what they claim, it'll be good enough.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-T320NZWAXAR-specs
Well GSMArena got 7:30 for both video playback and web browsing. In my opinion I am fairly disappointed as that is clearly the Achilles of this tablet. People with mixed usage should expect 4-5 hours of screen time which is like 60% of the battery life on the iPad mini.
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I am extremely disappointed too.
It's inadmissible that by wanting to match or undercut competition by 1 or 2mm in relates to device thickness they're willing to cripple it like this.
Because this is what we're talking about: 1 couple more millimeters in the battery thickness and most probably a very significant mAh bump could be attained.
Let's see if this is not DOA because of this. The "A"-cult reviewers, always already so accolades-limited when talking about Samsung products, will have a ball with this one, that's for sure.
XK
Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.
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Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.
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Please don't do this. Relativise shortcomings of a device is an Apple-cult thing.
This can be a disaster. The only thing that can save it from a disaster is if both the screen and processor prove out to be extremely frugal in what relates to power consumption.
I'll give you an example of a real-life severe inconvenience of the short battery life in my otherwise amazing Tab 7.7:
While in a foreign country, using it as a navigator with both WI-Fi and GPS turned on (for Google maps full use) or even with just GPS activated (for Co-Pilot usage) my tab dies 1/2 to 3/4 into our daily run-abouts, at the precise moment we are becoming tired, less vigilant and acute-deductive, the time of the day when we usually need it most.
...And since we're talking about shortcomings, although the GSM rates the 8.4 display as "amazing" I see that a crucial parameter for photography (my main hobby and the one I subject all my purchases in this area to) and high-resolution movies viewing is also not that impressive. The contrast ration is rated at 1:822 / 1:830, right in the same range as Retina ones (with these actually having lower black levels).
One of the reasons I elected the 7.7 as my tab and why I love it is the practically infinite contrast ratio, something that makes movies and photographs "pop" like nothing else on the market.
I understand that, not featuring an Super-AMOLED screen, the 8.4 could never deliver those levels of contrast, but....1:830?
XK
Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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I will wait too but one thing is already clear: Running times won't be impressive.
Samsung is playing with fire here.
While this whole tab thing was in inception/infancy it was OK to come short on this (...or tapping the "models explosion" approach...). People would go "it's OK, they're probing approaches".
But as "mobile devicery" reaches it's adult stage, with users approaching the acquisition of models the same way they do the replacement of their TV sets, refrigerators or cars, they running the palpable risk of having users deep imprinting the notion: "Samsung...Yeah, they're OK but their running times suck".
Once this mind set reaches the majority of the potential market there will be no turning back. It won't matter then that they come up with a tab or a smartphone that can run 5 days without recharging, it will still be perceived as "Meh!".
American cars were once found to be "gas guzzlers". It doesn't matter that the US auto industry now makes models as frugal as anyone else. Worldwide consumers still perceive them that way and that is killing the perfect option US auto makers could resort to in order to swiftly circumvent the disaster that befell upon them: Neutralize domestic sales drops by going global.
XK
6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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6 hrs is not bad on its own but when other devices can get nearly double that, it becomes pretty pathetic.
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That's true but this is kinda my only option cuz I have to have the latest processor and best screen and graphics at a cheap price so I can finally get rid of my laggy nexus 7
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I have owned the 8.4 since the summer, and have had an average mixed usage battery life of about ten hours. This includes being connected to WiFi, watching YouTube and browsing the web, and cooing over cat pics on social media apps. It's not as utterly disappointing as you make it out to be. It doesn't last as long when watching YouTube at 1080p60 or playing a resource-intensive game like WoT or RR3, but that is to be expected.
Lighten up, yeah?
Greetings,
this thread shall help us to discuss the overall experiences with battery life / SoT of our all new HTC U12+ (ime)/Exodus 1 (exo). As I'm receiving my demo unit soon, I'll start uploading screenshots of my personal battery life here, as you can do as well, as soon as you got your HTC U12+.
5m4r7ph0n36uru
Here's one impressive screen shot of @mrjwilliams that can also be found on Twitter.
Uptime 2d 12h 43m
Left 15%
SoT. 4h 39m
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So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
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So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
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Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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It could be the that the Twitter user was a very light user, or used power saving before 15%. I'm trying to argue it, I'd really prefer his numbers to be the norm rather than the outlier.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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I said the 845 is supposed to be a sipper. I don't have one (yet) to personally test. I believe if this year is another dud year for Qualcomm, this could spell disaster for HTC. I dunno about Oreo being the culprit (overall); my girlfriend got 8.1 on her Essential and she hasn't complained about battery life (and believe me, she'd let me know). My fingers are crossed though.
Make no mistake though, I really do want the U12+ to meet my (IMO) reasonable expectations.
This is my battery stats! 70% time on WiFi 30% LTE. Battery drain is unusually high on LTE. Location off unless required Bluetooth sync off.
This is my first personal stats. 60% Wi-Fi, 40% 4G, BT on all time with a Smartwatch connected.
Listened to some music via USonic ANC Headset, streaming a few videos, browsing, mailing, XDA of course. After the first 58 hours up-time (so this being only the second full run) I'm pretty impressed of what I got
24h, 5h SoT
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
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Yes I do.
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RyuujiTakasu said:
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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It does use it. But I couldn't find the adjustments in the settings menu yet, thus are running the out of the box standard setup.
Edit: nevermind just been blind. Found it.
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Can you try use phone for full charge without that feature?Lets see battery difference, after all its LCD not AMOLED.
My unlocked Galaxy S9+ is currently at about 29% with around 1:37 screen on time.....
Out of the box
Start at 80%
Setup and play with everything
screen on 4 hours and 24 minutes.
Go to bed 23:45 battery 24%
Wake up 05:45 battery 23%
Battery life is great for me.
I no it has to settle .
Anyway very happy with the result till now.
Grtz decodertje
Actually, feels like battery life decreases after the first day of use. It's understandable because of added apps. I charge it from 20-30 up to 80-90 (battery health squad). It gives me 4 hours of screen-on time. And I charge the phone only once a day with heavy usage. The major factor is screen brightness which drains battery damn fast when over 50%