Has anybody tried the tetrax mounts yet with their galaxy nexus? Before I purchase one I'm curious of two things.
1. How well does the the magnet stick to the battery door since the battery cover is textured? I have an extra cover that I'll use simply for this.
2. Does the magnet interfere with the NFC and/or screen at all?
In case your not sure what I'm referring to:
http://store.tetrax.us/xway-line/fixway
I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
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Thanks,
So you've actually tried it on the GNex and it don't stick very well? Did you by chance try holding it on there for several hours with a strong clamp or anything? I really want one of these but worried it's a waste of money with this phone
I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
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Would you mind holding up one of the magnets to the battery door and test out the NFC to see if it interferes with it (if you have the ability to). This is my main question as I could always put the magnet on a case I guess.
Thanks!
I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
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Awesome so yea I don't think it'll interfere because I was thinking the part you stick to the back of the phone is magnetic, but if your saying it's not all should be well. Either way I went ahead and ordered it yesterday anyway so I'll figure out a way to get it to stick to either the door or a case. Thanks for your insight!
Nope, it's just a metal button. It actually comes with 4 or 5 different ones of all sizes and styles.
I have this installed on my nexus, I put the mount on my dash and the NFC sticker on my knob for the ac that get covered up. Everytime I put my phone on the mount, the nfc changes it to car mode, volume up, full brightness and launches sirius xm radio...works very well, sometimes I have to move it a bit to get to read the nfc, but thats only cause i have the nfc a little too far at the bottom of the phone and it mounts at a slight angle, not due to any interference at all. I have NFC chips all around and never have problems reading them at all, probably a good idea not to mount the metal chip right in the middle of the battery area, just in case. I also used a clamp to hold it on for about 3 or 4 hours and has had little trouble sticking to the texture.
I have had a few incidents if I pull off the phone, rather than slide it off the backing will actually unclip a single clip.
@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
MetalMessiah78 said:
@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
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I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
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I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
raing said:
Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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A quick search came up with this: http://www.tagstand.com/
Seems like this could open up a whole line of fun options. Would love to hear how others have done it, though.
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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That is so awesome. This is my first phone with NFC so I'm barely starting to learn all the cool things that you can do with it. I tried Android Beam for the first time with my brother on Tuesday and it works great, though I wish you could beam other things such as pictures. By the way, the metal button does not interfere with NFC. I will let them know that you recommended me. Thank you!
If your interested in NFC, here's a few spots that got me started
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/336155-what-do-you-use-nfc-tasker.html
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/weekend_project_make_your_own_nfc_tags.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqmyNEQPq0&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received
and the tags I bought were from here:
http://tagsfordroid.com/tags/Home.html
I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
by itself i'm not sure nfc task launcher does it for me, but in combination with tasker, it's ridiculous how much can be done....would still love to see what others have come up with.
I love those stickers with the Android! Thanks for the links. I will need to read up on it more. I am definitely interested. This is a lot more exciting stuff then what Google showed off at the I/O last year!
Thats a good idea. Being in IT, we have dead Hard Drives laying around that have awesome magnets in them. They're real slim. I bet I could superglue one to my nexus's battery cover for under the TPU case that would hold. They're thin so it might not screw with the case (but it might).
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I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
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Yeah, it looks like it's $8 for 2. I just picked up 5 over at tagstand.com for the same price and found 10 for $13 over at http://buynfcstickers.com.
Hopefully you guys are all having good experience with the guy at tag stand. His customer service was great for me and I'll definatley be going back there in the future.
Oh and by the way, I got my new tetrax magnet set in today and not having any issues with the magnet at allowing necessary nor with the metal part sticking to the stock battery door. Only real issue so far is you have to slide it off just right or the battery door just pops off the nexus lol. Highly recommend though!
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Hey guys. Can someone direct me to the best place to buy NFC tags? I want ones that can hold the most data for the lowest price, and I would like them to also be a little sturdy, unlike some of the sticker NFC tags. Also, what is the best application to program these? Make sure these all work with the Galaxy Nexus (LTE). Thanks
I got mine from here: http://tagsfordroid.com
They are great. The keychain is very handy for my car setup.
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For some reason, I bought my tagsfordroid NFC tags from Amazon instead of directly from them... both were the same price, both had free shipping. At any rate, the keychain alone was worth the price of the entire package. I have mine set as an "escape" function that someone else here posted. Basically, I keep the keychain in my pocket, and if I wave my phone over my pocket, it will trigger the tag, send a text message to the website ifttt.com, which will trigger a phone call to my phone that says "You need to come home now, it's an emergency, it's bad!"
So if I am ever in need of an escape, like a bad date, I have an escape, lol!
hhaha thats such a good idea
I have some questions about the ability to read NFC's based on position and reading through things. If it is of ANY difference, I have a RAZR HD MAXX
I'll give some examples:
Countertop - I'd like to place the NFC tag on the opposite side of the countertop so it won't be visible but when I set my phone down on that spot, it'll know what to do. The granite countertop is about 3-4mm thick.
On the Side of things - I have at least 2 places I'd like to place the tags where I'll set my phone down on something but it'll be attached to it's side.
Other side of Windows/Glass.
Other side of Drywall.
Other side of (Exterior/Interior) Doors.
Basically, the idea here is to be aesthetically pleasing as possible. Tags are not invisible and they can be somewhat of an eyesore if used around the home. This is extremely important if you are using it for home automation.
Just did a test with our NFC tags and a Nexus 4.
With a stack of paper in between about 1cm, although I don't think there's much of a difference with or without paper.
Tried it across a pane of glass and it worked perfectly.
I'm pretty sure the drywall and even the door would not be do-able. The normal range for NFC is max 3cm and is usually much less than that.
I'm also thinking the phone model may affect it a little, will try again tonight with an Xperia V and we'll see what the results are. My impression is that the Xperia V's NFC is stronger than the Nexus 4.
I get some tags today, hopefully...
I'll keep this thread rolling as I learn more.
Just tried with the Xperia V and the NFC on that is definitely stronger. I'm able to have the tag trigger the phone at a further distance compared to my Nexus 4 in all scenarios.
My RAZR HD MAXX can read through the following things:
3mm thick granite countertop
Back of my door bell button ... Took the electrical assembly off and mounted it behind the tiny printed circuit board, it didn't have any problems reading it.
3mm wood (I think particle board) night stand.
5mm wood countertop (extremely surprised at this one)
My favorite... The glass table I have in my living room has three shale tiles in the middle, inlaid about 3mm down with a space between for separation between the rock and the glass. I have one on the center of a tile on the under-side and it reads great.
Next up (which I'm 100% certain it will read) lamp-shades, near my thermostat (under the plate), other general appliances.
I'll probably take my laptop apart and put an anti-metal under the keyboard someday lol.
All about the flux
NFC works with attenuating waves, not propagating. It comes down to whether the magnetic flux from the loop is strong enough to charge the tag up to a point where it's ID can be transposed back on the transmitting signal.
its called Near Field Communication for a reason
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Can you read a tag on the other side of metal if it's an anti-metal tag?
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GS3 on Verizon here...
I keep an NFC tag inside my leather wallet, when I need my balance I tap my phone to my wall, my phone texts my bank and responds with my balance. I use it all the time.
Those are cool ideas! Definitely a hit and miss as it's gonna depend on both the phone and the tag/type. Different tag types have slightly different strengths as far as receiving the magnetic field to create the pulse of energy needed as well as the distance of transmission of the signal/data.
It's always cool to have "hidden" tags. Of course sometimes it's not possible, so you just have to get ones that actually look good and blend most with where you're putting them.
Someone asked about anti-metal tags on the other side of metal - the answer to that is a definite no - won't work. The metal itself interferes with the magnetic field.
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Can you read a tag on the other side of metal if it's an anti-metal tag?
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anti metal nfc tags have a shielding layer on them to stop the metal interfering, therefore you can place a tag ON TOP OF metal and read it still, but not behind metal.
Hi,
I am not sure whether to post this here, but I take a leap and try it as you might have seen more tags than I did. Please bear with me....
A year ago I came by a local store and I saw NFC tags (mostly the sticker type) on display. I knew my next phone would have NFC so I tried to remember. But one NFC gadget - I got only a glimpse - impressed me:
An NFC pen! Wow, I said to myself, that I want to have. In my mind I saw huge possibilities that the pen would offer: every press on the pen, that inside tube, usually with advertisments, would turn one step. Not to reveal the next ad but to activate the next NFC tag, from my experience (with pens!) I guessed it must be at least 4, maybe 6 tags to cycle through.
Imagine... sitting in a lesson or lecture or meeting or whatever, holding your pen, pressing it a few times, holding it ontop of your Phone - especially while face-down - and silently and unnoticable trigger up to 6 different events... all in one pen, all in one hand.
Guess what, I came by today, very eager to buy and saw that NFC pen. It was a pen. WITH an NFC tag. A single one. What's that good for? If my tooth brush had an nfc tag, it would be of more use (keeping track) - at least to me.
So why the heck bother you with my unmature tech ideas? Did anyone stumble upon any device with a tag/gadget that would support switching tags by keypress? i couldn't find any hint.
Would it be possible with a designated hardware button? My guess is yes, but maybe not in a pen but in those "dogtags"/keyring ones.
If I look at those transparent sticker tags, solve it by using the same antenna and dis/connect the actual logic part. Maybe a little more resistence and noise on the wire switching part would be tolerable.
Or the chip itself could be given a multi personality either the NFC way (speak: is there any technique defined in the nfc specs) or by a contact which is measuring increasing electrical resistance.
Those all are WILD GUESSES. (i got shaky hands, soldering so small structures is not so... pleasant to me, so I won't give it a try)
My idea cannot be so unique, so it must be either technological impossible or economically improbable (say: to expensive to build and sell, not enough sales expected.)
Again, why bothering you? Because here might be so much Expertisé and experience that might yield a hint or two. And, maybe my expectation of a NFC toothbrush... Ahm pen might have amused you.
Nice to hear from you!
(PS: expensive Oral-B electrical tooth brushes do come with .... what? BLUETOOTH!)
Have a look at 'Air Button' and 'Dimple'.
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Have a look at 'Air Button' and 'Dimple'.
Sorry, I can't post external links as a new user.
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Thank you very much! I couldn't imagine so i didn't research properly enough. Dimple is my choice!